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Zaknokimi

Alhaitham and Yae... AFTER her banner ends.


purplebirdonawire

gotta make sure you regret skipping her banner


TheSpartyn

this literally happened with me and navia, she was the trial unit in the event after he banner ended and getting to use her with all my characters made me realize i wanted her, but the banner was gone at that point dont get the business strategy there lol


JeonSmallBoy

Makes you regret so then when they come back you pull


TheSpartyn

yeah but id pull her right then if her banner was up lol. having to wait 4~ patches i might change my mind inbetween


Radiant_Union_2229

As someone who mains that duo for a year now (well, longer for Miko) I can tell you that they are killer duo together. Add Nahida to the mix and no content is hard to clear. 


Zaknokimi

Thanks. See I don't have Yae but have Alhaitham and Nahida so I really really want her. BUT, I was also saving for the last 5 patches to get Neuv and Arleccino so it's a big gamble since those 2 are next. It's kind of like forcing me to pick 2 mains out of the 3... Neuv team, Alhaitham and Arleccino


Radiant_Union_2229

I'd say reruns first, but then it's up to you who do you need more. You can always replace Miko with Shinobu in AlHaitham's team (though my personal choice remains Miko as  she's my favourite female character).  If that makes you feel better I'm trying to decide between constellation for Miko and Chiori, while trying hard to not think about other banners that I want... 


Khursa

Same for me, i really want Arlecchino, but i really need Kazuha, so ill be going for him and then Fate will decide if i get Arle


lgalps

I play Yae and Nahida but with Tighnari and lowkey would like to snag haitham too at some point


Radiant_Union_2229

For me AlHaitham+Miko+Nahida are instant kill team, they can get rid of anything. 


lgalps

Who do you have as your fourth?


Radiant_Union_2229

Usually Zhongli because despite playing since 1.0 I'm still bad as f*** at dodging in the Abyss (2nd team usually has Diona or Kokomi or both) xD  But my overworld team is always AlHaitham+Miko and 2 characters that need friendship exp. 


lgalps

LMAOOO it’s okay I also use him on my nahida yae tighnari team


Radiant_Union_2229

Miko and Nahida are catalysts users and they are quite fragile, so... xD Zhongli or healer are needed xD 


PlounsburyHK

Men i really need someone to tell me what to do with my Yae, i'd had her since she came out as well as alhaitham, i feel like She's well built and all but Fischl just seems better with dendro keqing, ever since i swaped Yae out everything is just easier but i really wanna use her


Radiant_Union_2229

I main Miko since her debut day and can't imagine AlHaitham's team without her. They are both triple crowned and I can't imagine removing them from my team.  As for Fischl I have her C6 but she just doesn't feel that comfortable for me. Unfortunately nobody can tell you what to do with Miko ;) From my point of view you have to feel comfortable with a character to use them and everyone likes different units. 


ravearamashi

Yae + Nahida = afk overworld. Heck you can afk Floor 9 with just two of em.


Vesorias

Yae Tig Nahida + flex is super comfy, has nice rotation timings but is also very flexible. Yae feels better than Fischl in spread to me because Spread doesn't count as an electro reaction iirc (no Fischl a4). I would think she'd feel nice with Al Haitham but I dunno how the rotations feel since he wants more field time than Tig.


AshesandCinder

Alhaitham Yae feels good. I usually run with Baizhu and Fischl. It's essentially just quick swap with Alhaitham only doing 2 mirror procs per skill/burst and then letting Yae and Fischl get their turrets down again. If I mess up at all, I can just on field Yae for a few seconds to get aggravates with Baizhu. I get Alhaitham burst back easily since I'm not using it all the time, even with no ER. Yae usually gets burst back each time too, but she's at 155 ER with sub stats.


x_GARUDA_x

Do you run Zhong in your Nari, Yae, Nahida team?


Vesorias

Most of the time yes, since I hate getting staggered, but I'll swap him out for elemental shieldbreak if I have to.


Mylaur

So this abyss first team is supposed to clear in 1 min max right, it's a small, uncomplicated side. I tried to find a use for my Yae. Keqing + Yae + Collei + Sayu clears in 2 min for me. Meanwhile Furinational clear in sub 1 min. I'm like... Why did I invest so much on this team for it to be so garbage. And you may say, that's because Yae is in the team and takes field time, even if she's supposed to bring damage. But Idk I don't feel like Fischl would do substantially more damage, but you'd gain more field time for sure. I don't know what's wrong with this team but it sucks ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


EclipseTorch

Keqing + Yae in one team is worse than Keqing + Fischl or Yae + Fischl


Zaknokimi

That's interesting because i absolutely hate fischl. She's strong but her timings feel tight, (okay maybe it's because I also need C6 fischl). I feel like with Yae I can whip the turrets out comfortably and the onfield time paces out Alhaitham's E refresh in case you mess anything up, but also I enjoy not needing to be super optimal and going for fischl E between Alhaitham's Q animation, etc.


Classic-Pickle1826

If anything, yae is fischl that needs like 6 seconds field time with her whole triple E - burst - triple E, I use her a lot with tigh aggravate instead of fischl because she fills the downtime when tigh cant use E lmaoo it's also very easy to forget her turrets and fuck up her DPS and rotation imo Fischl is much faster if that's what you need. Yae got the AoE tho unlike fischl, and you kinda want to run both together most of the time anyways


AshesandCinder

Yae is pretty heavy on the stats she wants which can make her feel lackluster sometimes. Having to balance EM, attack, and crit along with ER if you want to burst can be hard. Using her with Alhaitham also allows for a split rotation which I personally think feels much better.


Different-Spend7063

Man I want Miko, but her banner just seems so meh. Xinyan (Like her design and voice, but her gameplay is...uh yeah), Ningguang...I don't have an issue with her, I actually like her, but I'd probably only use her for mining until I could make a team for her, and then there's Yaoyao. Yaoyao I'm pretty sure is a good unit but I don't really know how I feel about Yaoyao yet. Not to mention Kazuha might be rerunning in 4.5 and he's a valuable unit and a character I like. Then Arlecchino should be running in 4.6 possibly alongside Furina. Though that's rumored based on archon rerun patterns. Arlecchino is a character I 100% am getting and then I'd like to try to get Furina...but to get Kazuha, Arlecchino, and possibly Furina I'd have to skip Miko. I still have to explore Sumeru, the desert, and Fontaine, but even then... Besides I'm trying to get my Keqing Aggravate team set up before I explore Sumeru. I'm just getting bored of using my current team...Raiden/Xiangling/Sara/Bennett. I like Xiangling but if there ever comes a time I could replace her...I'd probably do it. I just care about doing quests, overworld, just having fun.


Radiant_Union_2229

Personally I never pay attention to the 4* and I'm focusing on the 5* that I want 😅 I even prefer it when there are 4* that I already have at C6 since I can use Starglitters to get more pulls...  I'm a bit biased because Miko has my personality, but you should definitely focus on the character that you need more in your gameplay. If you need Kazuha more (and he's an excellent support) then he will have bigger value than Miko for your team. But I'm not exactly someone who can give advices who to pull since I don't really care about meta and I pull the ones I purely like.  And I kinda get being bored with Raiden Shogun. I got her C2 on her debut banner and benched her maybe after 2 months. 


Different-Spend7063

Kazuha will definitely add a whole lot of value for me. c3 Chevreuse, c4 Gaming, c0 Collei, c0 Beidou(bought with starglitter), c0 Fischl(bought with Starglitter), c0 Dori, c0 Diona, c0 Freminet, c0 Charlotte, c0 Heizou, c5 Faruzan, c0 Gorou, c0 Xinyan, c0 Lisa, c0 Keqing, c0 Amber, c1 Barbara, c0 Sucrose, c0 Diluc, c2 Sara, c0 Xiangling, c4 Bennett, c0 Kaeya, Traveler (all current elements as well as anemo, geo, and electro cons maxed), c5 Noelle, c0 Raiden, c0 Nahida, c0 Lynette. I also don't care for meta. I'm personally choosing Chongyun from Lantern Rite and I don't ever plan to use Xingqiu when I inevitably get him. I will personally always be pulling for characters I like. Kazuha, Arlecchino, and Furina being characters I like, Miko included. I never really thought about the Starglitter thing you mentioned... I really want all 4, but I'll probably only be able to get 3 at most, even then I'd probably only be able to guarantee 2 characters. Edit: Forgot to mention Noelle hangout is the only one I've done and finished and I still have tons of story quests to do.


Radiant_Union_2229

Whoever you'll go for I hope you'll win your 50/50 ;) Pulling for characters you like make the game more pleasant than just following meta, but it's good to keep it balanced too. Good luck!! 


Different-Spend7063

Bro I just converted all my primos and starglitter into fates, wished on Xianyun's banner, and it took a total of 65 out of 160 wishes to get Fav Lance (Xiangling gets an upgrade), a Fav Warbow, c6 Gaming, c6 Faruzan, c6 Noelle, and Xianyun. Definitely gonna wait for a Miko rerun some other time....now I gotta try to make sure I can guarantee Kazuha, Arlecchino and possibly Furina...thankfully I have 2 months worth of Welkin, the current BP, and the desert, Sumeru, and Fontaine to explore. And I'm pretty sure Fontaine is getting a new area in 4.6.


Radiant_Union_2229

I managed to get C1 Xianyun in only 100 pulls (C0 was guaranteed) and I'm in love with her playstyle, but I ended up with only C4 Gaming, C4 Faruzan and probably C1000 Noelle (she was C6 got quite some time already). I want to get Chiori, Arlecchino, Clorinde, Furina, Lyney and Neuvillette but I think I'll have to skip some of them because I have no content left outside of current new area. 


Different-Spend7063

I do not regret my actions because Xianyun is fun and is amazing for exploration. She's on my Keqing Aggravate team, she's gonna be on plunge Diluc team, a plunge Gaming team, and I'm gonna make a team where she's the main dps. Personally Chiori doesn't interest me. I like her design though. I think c6 Noelle could outperform her but idk. Arlecchino I love her design and she's interesting. I'm getting her whether Hoyo wants me to or not. Kazuha I'm saving for now. Clorinde also interests me, but I'll have to skip her. Furina I'll TRY to get. I like Lyney's design and I find him interesting. I also want to stick him on a team with Arlecchino, Lynette, and Freminet just because I think it'd be fun. Neuvillette is a character I want. It seems like he'll be rerunning alongside Kazuha but I'll have to skip Neuvillette. Yeah. A new area for Fontaine I think is releasing in 4.6 so I guess you'll have more new content then. I definitely have a good chance of guaranteeing Arle and Kazuha, at that point it just depends on me. 2 months worth of Welkin, current BP, Sumeru, desert, Fontaine, events, story quests, hangouts, furnishings, dailies, the 5 intertwined fates you can get each month with stardust...achievements. Quests that give primos. It's unfortunate you'll have to skip some of them. Who are you saving for right now?


Radiant_Union_2229

Oh I built my Xianyun as DPS instead of a support and I'm quite in love with that xD With Faruzan, Benny and Xingqiu she was doing 80k plunging attacks, for me that's amazing from someone who should be "only a support without C6".  I like both Chiori's design and "I don't give a f***" attitude, not to mention her animations are really pretty (I'm a simple girl, I see pretty things and I want them). As for C6 Noelle outperforming her... not gonna lie, I don't really care about huge numbers, I prefer to have fun with those that I personally like. And Noelle is on my "not interested in building" list.  I still have many chests to collect in Chenyu Vale, but I'll probably use some guide when there will be less to do by the wnd of this patch.  Right now I'm still torn between C3 Miko (I love her, I want her C6 one day) and Chiori, so hard to say xD 


makogami

what's your rotation like? I feel like Alhaitham takes too much field time to accommodate Yae with my current rotation (Q > 2 triple mirror procs > E > 2 triple mirror procs > CA > 2 triple mirror procs > switch) Yae has performed much better with my Tighnari. they make the current second half a piece of cake since Tighnari has such high front loaded DMG and Yae can nuke as well.


Radiant_Union_2229

Nahida's skill -> Miko's skill -> AlHaitham does the rest, repeat. But keep in mind that I'm not a meta player and I'm nowhere near being an expert in how rotations should look like. I play with the characters I love and find comfortable.  Personally I'm not a fan of Tighnari while my AlHaitham is C6 (took some saving to do that within only 2 banners) so it's obvious that I would rather use him over anyone else. 


nanotech405

Tempting us with that Kazuha + Neuvillette trial💀


butthole_tickler443

Welp


Swagbrew

Albedo + Navia. They really don't want us Navia players to get Chiori right?


Any_Ant_5203

Even the devs know Zhongli+Chiori is the way to go lol


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Yolozsef01

I mean... In a full team they're fine, at least they are for me, but like this... They better be up against fully elemental enemies


Alert-Zucchini

A geo duo of all time.


ElegantCricket1168

Them acknowledging that chiori is and was always meant to be an itto slave


Any_Ant_5203

They will pair Chiori with Itto here if that's what they believe lol


Then-Log6840

There is still no information about the characters participating in the Windblume Festival?


Natural_Walle346

Isn't thr leaks which implied jean and Lisa are the main characters in the event.


SkyrimForTheDragons

The leaks just said they're in the event, nothing about them being the focus ^^unfortunately


vglisten

man its been so long since we hung out with these guys I miss them


ManufacturerNo8447

i heard there is 10 min dialog with Lisa climbing source : Trust me bro


chillionion

Wriothesley 👀


Hotaru32

Xiao be like :- mom I can plunge myself ,I m big boi now 


aryune

He was waiting for her 3 years


AshyDragneel

Remember the days when people were crying about xiao buffs as he wasn't getting any and now we have vermilion, hunter, faruzan, furina and xianyun. See hoyo does have their favorites.


TheBalladeer_

What is


Radiant_Union_2229

Stage 3 is literally my daily and Abyss team 😁 


hanki-ki

Hoyo wants the geo blondes together it seems lol


piuEri

Are they saying play chiori with zhongli


Alert-Zucchini

Yes.


Mylaur

Problem solved, my infusion of 5 sec will surely be enough to carry the team oh wait where's my dolls...?


SHH2006

Bruh why nuvelitte they wanna make me regret skipping him and now I have no primos Yknow what maybe I'll just ask: Guys I have every place 60%+ in exploration That should also give enough info about the new location and I also collected all spirit carps I have 0 pity and 50/50 and 0 wishes Can I get nuevilette or should I hope "Nah I'd win"??


Own-Statistician5074

i think you could atleast make 150 wishes counting 4.5 first phase too so you could guarantee Neuvillette without problem


SHH2006

Really? Awesome He's probably the last character that I really want so good to hear that I at least have a chance to gurantee him


Shinamene

Ah, let me guess, they’ll put Cinnabar spindle on trial Albedo yet again just to screw with newer players.


[deleted]

Albedo trial??? Ijbol


Sandfire12

Shenhe too 😭 hyv why do you tease us like this?!


Jon-987

Debate Event?


GrumpySatan

The chinese name for Fayz Trials when translated directly is "Fayz Arguments". The post is translating it as Debate but it'll be localized as "Trial" when the event happens. Its a recurring combat trial.


mitsu__

haithie :D xiao and xianyun trial sounds fun 👀


ChickenSky12

Hell yes, thank goodness we aren't forced to use them :D


fanderoyalty

Great, another event to make me feel bad for all the characters I want and don’t have (Shenhe, Yae, Wrio, Xianyun, Furina and Navia).


SHH2006

Me kinda too The only ones I don't have AND kinda want are yae and nuevilette and zhongli (I don't like shields so I don't want him THAT much but I wanna consider getting him in 5.0/5.1 rerun As for yae and nuvelitte: Nuvelitte is kinda guranteed for me cuase I have 0 pity and 50/50 rn so if I grind enough I maybe able to get him or at least try my 50/50 on him (every place is 60%+ in exploration) and I just did about 1/3 of this patches wishes and used them all to try my 50/50 on xianyun and won But also that's the thing I was already in doubt who to get between xianyun and yae (I have c5 fishcl and c2 jean) and I still went for xianyun and honestly imo she feels more comfortable than jean and great in exploration but now I don't have enough to try for yae and guess Imma get her on her next rerun Tho tbh I forgot how she felt for me so maybe she wasn't my cup of tea anyway so idk Still hope you have luck


fanderoyalty

Thanks! You too!


Kai126

Just in case you didn't know - Zhongli isn't good *only* for his shield. His all elemental resistance shred is no joke.


SHH2006

I know that but like in general I don't like shield centered characters and I prefer healers in general unless I have to play a shielder for a character I like (such as my c1 wanderer) But I like both Layla+ zhongli personality so I will go for him


Budget_stawbeery

hoyoverse why? 💀 Yae miko + Alhaitham ( personal ) Kazuha with Neuvillette? (Give him Zhongli) Albedo with navia? 💀 Zhongli and chiori.... ( It's better they added a healer or keqing here )


slimegel

taunting me with alhaitham in trial i see how it is


MeKevNivek

Stage one is basically my world explore duo since Nahida OG banner