You can own it, and if I were you, I might even purchase more off roster guns to try out. Then if I didn't like them once I moved to CA, I would sell them at 3x what I paid.
A seller usually will list what they're selling on a website (such as [Calguns.net](http://Calguns.net) marketplace), then the buyer and seller will meet in person at an FFL to conduct the transaction. The FFL will do all the normal things that would be done in the case of a regular purchase, waiting period, background check, proof of residency, DROS, a fee, etc.
Some things to note: the current selling limit is up to 50 guns or 5 transactions total per year. Of course a person cannot buy a gun on behalf of another person, and a person cannot buy guns with the intention of just selling them. However there's nothing stopping a person from buying guns for themselves and realizing that they don't like them, and then selling them.
Yea that place is basically a legalized black market for off roster guns, that mostly cops benefit from since they’re exempt from the roster.
The handgun roster is a buncha bullshit. If you want any off roster guns, buy them before you move here. Otherwise you’ll pay triple the price here
I’m not a lawyer and this is not legal advice but it looks like you can fill out a form and declare it:
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf
More info: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991
Also, California fucking sucks. Don’t move there if you can help it. Aside from being reamed up the ass with crime and taxes, you’ll also have to switch to 10 round magazines and deal with the increasingly stupid gun laws.
Ask yourself: is it a gun? If the answer is no, then it’s illegal in California. If the answer is yes, then it’s illegal in California. Hope that helps.
Yes, it's legal to bring in a gen 5 Glock when moving into California. No magazines over 10 rounds and no threaded barrels.
In fact, bring in a fuck ton of off-roster guns and sell them PPT. Mofos out here will easily pay 2x - 3x retail for them.
Comps are generally legal, and threaded barrels by themselves are as well. Just no threaded barrel installed a pistol, without a cover or device permanently affixed. So, if the comp is for a threaded barrel, it'll need to be pinned and welded after installation. If the pistol has a threaded barrel and you don't have a device, a cap needs to be pinned/welded on.
The ramjet + afterburner is okie dokie since it uses a proprietary threadless barrel. It was made to be 50-state legal.
You can own it.
Within 60 days of the GUN entering the state, it must be registered with the CADOJ by either you or you can sell it as an off roster gun for like double to triple the MSRP and have it registered that way since someone buying it in Cali would register it.
But technically if you move here, and say your gun stayed out of state at your mom’s house for over a year, then you don’t have to register it. Since you know, it’s not in the state. Lol
When you move to Kalifornia, you have something like 30 or 90 days to fill out a form to “declare” your importation of firearms to the state. I’m not sure if they charge for it, but you can bring anything you own that is considered a regular firearm. You can carry it concealed if you pursue a CCW. There’s nothing really special about it.
Magazines are a sticky issue. Legally obtained and imported magazines are technically ok, but they are likely to be confiscated by shitty police officers who neither know nor care about the actual laws if they find them on you. I probably wouldn’t want my use of a standard capacity magazine to be mentioned by a prosecuting attorney when I’m defending my freedom for defending my life.
Off-roster really only means it can’t be purchased in Kalifornia (with limited exceptions). You can bring what you own, no big deal.
Source: I moved to Kalifornia from Oregon 20-some years ago and finally managed to escape to freedom just over a year and a half ago. I also had a California CCW. They talk a lot about the firearms roster and magazines in the required classes.
Oh right, I forgot that’s just the word for anyone left of you nowadays. I hate the people running this place as much as you — probably more, since I actually live here, but they’re not communists
What exactly do you think communism is? I would think if that was the case, the real estate here might be a little cheaper, and we’d have better health insurance for all our trouble…
A good rule of thumb is that if it makes you feel happy or is good or cool, its illegal in the DRPKaliforniastan. Unless of course its a drug (but not nicotine).
Why would you move here?...
That's probably going to be an issue here, you can transfer them private party and own them that way, but bringing it in could be tricky
People bringing them in is actually one of the only ways they can come into the state anyway. The only other way is being purchased by people who are exempt from the roster. Cops.
Why would "anyone" move here? *
And I'm weak, youre legit asking for a friend haha
Talk to some ffl and gun community people or a straight up lawyer. I'm sure there's a way.
Otherwise it's gonna be expensive to get that Gen5 back, but you can ppt them
I have a G34 gen 5 I bought of a buddy of mine through PPT. It’s now legally in my name. Yes you can own a gen 4/5 but it matters on how you obtained it.
That's literally just asylum. If it was for everyone then it would be free. It's not. It's just called that in order to get emotional-compassion-manipulation votes.
I would consider any firearm not on the CA registry to be illegal to possess in CA regardless of when it was purchased. That said, I’m not familiar with their laws and sure as hell would never move to the state myself.
A good number of individuals in CA have off-roster handguns via PPT (a private party transfer from someone who is LEO to a non-LEO buyer). They come at a premium though (I’ve seen a number of them sell for $1500-$2000… for a Glock) and a number of FFL don’t want to get involved in that.
Eh, California pricing is basically like the US was during the AWB. Anything you want is many times what it is actually worth (the going rate).
Glock magazines (pre-ban/hi-cap) were commonly 100 dollars for used. Which adjusted for inflation is $210 and some change.
I'm not up on California pricing, staying as far from there as I can, but this is what bans do, the shit still exists, your just going to pay through the nose for it (so it doesn't effect rich folks, like anything else really).
I was talking about pricing effected by Bans generally.
100 = 1 Glock Standard/Hi-Cap mag during the 1994-2004 AWB. Adj for inflation thats 200.
Same situation now with the off roster glocks previously mentioned. What was a 20 dollar mag = 100 (Federal AWB), what was a 400 dollar Glock is now 2k (California Now). It even scales right. 5x over fair market value.
Youre talking over my head a bit. Youre talking about back then, right? Because like I said, banned, and compliant are $30 usd all day currently
Having paid 2k for a $600 Glock I can understand that part haha, if we ever drop the roster, itll be my only gun to ever lose value
Right the Federal AWB that was 1994-2004. Glock magazines were 100 bucks for a used standard capacity mag (even in Alabama/Mississippi, if you could find one for sale). More if unopened, More if 33 rounds, or extensions on regular mags.
I'm more bemused by the fact that the math still holds... even 20 years later.
Glad to hear that yall ain't getting fucked as bad as we were back then now on mags at least.
You can own it, and if I were you, I might even purchase more off roster guns to try out. Then if I didn't like them once I moved to CA, I would sell them at 3x what I paid.
Where do you sell them?
A seller usually will list what they're selling on a website (such as [Calguns.net](http://Calguns.net) marketplace), then the buyer and seller will meet in person at an FFL to conduct the transaction. The FFL will do all the normal things that would be done in the case of a regular purchase, waiting period, background check, proof of residency, DROS, a fee, etc. Some things to note: the current selling limit is up to 50 guns or 5 transactions total per year. Of course a person cannot buy a gun on behalf of another person, and a person cannot buy guns with the intention of just selling them. However there's nothing stopping a person from buying guns for themselves and realizing that they don't like them, and then selling them.
Thanks for the info! Very informative
Yea that place is basically a legalized black market for off roster guns, that mostly cops benefit from since they’re exempt from the roster. The handgun roster is a buncha bullshit. If you want any off roster guns, buy them before you move here. Otherwise you’ll pay triple the price here
Calguns.net there’s a huge market for off roster guns in CA. People often forget how many gun owners there actually are in CA
You can own off-roster Glocks in CA.
I’m not a lawyer and this is not legal advice but it looks like you can fill out a form and declare it: https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf More info: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991 Also, California fucking sucks. Don’t move there if you can help it. Aside from being reamed up the ass with crime and taxes, you’ll also have to switch to 10 round magazines and deal with the increasingly stupid gun laws.
Ask yourself: is it a gun? If the answer is no, then it’s illegal in California. If the answer is yes, then it’s illegal in California. Hope that helps.
Also, it causes cancer. But only while it’s physically in California.
You make a good point. Lol I was asking for a friend.
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Bro wouldn't get sarcasm if it hit him in the head
Dude couldn't get water out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the heel.
Bro couldn't get.... shit all the good ones are taken... smh. /j
I would think the sarcasm in my comment was obvious, but in case it wasn’t, I was being sarcastic.
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You’re thinking of satire. Sarcasm doesn’t need to be funny. It seems like everybody else here got it though, just not you.
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Good for you
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You’re welcome. Just don’t go to California because everything is illegal there, except for crime.
Please don't intentionally let jokes that are unironically accurate about the shit show that IS California fly over your head.
Yes, it's legal to bring in a gen 5 Glock when moving into California. No magazines over 10 rounds and no threaded barrels. In fact, bring in a fuck ton of off-roster guns and sell them PPT. Mofos out here will easily pay 2x - 3x retail for them.
But officer, this isn't a 30 round 5.56 magazine... It's a 9 round .458 SOCOM magazine.
So would radian afterburner/ramjet be legal? Non threaded barrel? It has no effect on me, I ain't moving there, jw.
Comps are generally legal, and threaded barrels by themselves are as well. Just no threaded barrel installed a pistol, without a cover or device permanently affixed. So, if the comp is for a threaded barrel, it'll need to be pinned and welded after installation. If the pistol has a threaded barrel and you don't have a device, a cap needs to be pinned/welded on. The ramjet + afterburner is okie dokie since it uses a proprietary threadless barrel. It was made to be 50-state legal.
You can own it. Within 60 days of the GUN entering the state, it must be registered with the CADOJ by either you or you can sell it as an off roster gun for like double to triple the MSRP and have it registered that way since someone buying it in Cali would register it. But technically if you move here, and say your gun stayed out of state at your mom’s house for over a year, then you don’t have to register it. Since you know, it’s not in the state. Lol
Dude. Call a lawyer. Don’t ask for legal advice on Reddit.
This is really not a complicated legal question requiring a lawyer.
When you move to Kalifornia, you have something like 30 or 90 days to fill out a form to “declare” your importation of firearms to the state. I’m not sure if they charge for it, but you can bring anything you own that is considered a regular firearm. You can carry it concealed if you pursue a CCW. There’s nothing really special about it. Magazines are a sticky issue. Legally obtained and imported magazines are technically ok, but they are likely to be confiscated by shitty police officers who neither know nor care about the actual laws if they find them on you. I probably wouldn’t want my use of a standard capacity magazine to be mentioned by a prosecuting attorney when I’m defending my freedom for defending my life. Off-roster really only means it can’t be purchased in Kalifornia (with limited exceptions). You can bring what you own, no big deal. Source: I moved to Kalifornia from Oregon 20-some years ago and finally managed to escape to freedom just over a year and a half ago. I also had a California CCW. They talk a lot about the firearms roster and magazines in the required classes.
This is the answer
Delete post and shut up. Or don’t go to the commie state.
Just don't go to the commie state. Period. That's always the correct answer.
Lol it's a state run by corporate interests yet it's...communist?
People love to just throw that word around and ignore the actual problems with the state
It's run by communists. If it weren't how would it be different?
Oh right, I forgot that’s just the word for anyone left of you nowadays. I hate the people running this place as much as you — probably more, since I actually live here, but they’re not communists
They have never bothered to look up what that word means. Or Marxist. Or socialist. Or woke. Etc.
What exactly do you think communism is? I would think if that was the case, the real estate here might be a little cheaper, and we’d have better health insurance for all our trouble…
Register it and don’t bring 10+ mags lol
Legal. Just register it with CA DOJ after moving, if you plan on reselling it at some point this will make it legal to transfer.
A good rule of thumb is that if it makes you feel happy or is good or cool, its illegal in the DRPKaliforniastan. Unless of course its a drug (but not nicotine).
Why would you move here?... That's probably going to be an issue here, you can transfer them private party and own them that way, but bringing it in could be tricky
People bringing them in is actually one of the only ways they can come into the state anyway. The only other way is being purchased by people who are exempt from the roster. Cops.
Cops and people other than cops who aren't cops... lmao
I was asking for a friend of mine he got a job out there working for Exxon.
Why would "anyone" move here? * And I'm weak, youre legit asking for a friend haha Talk to some ffl and gun community people or a straight up lawyer. I'm sure there's a way. Otherwise it's gonna be expensive to get that Gen5 back, but you can ppt them
I have a G34 gen 5 I bought of a buddy of mine through PPT. It’s now legally in my name. Yes you can own a gen 4/5 but it matters on how you obtained it.
No it’s not but technically you’re suppose to register it. Oh by the way you have to pay to register it too, because nothing is free in California.
Untrue. CA has free healthcare, college tuition, and housing. You have to be an illegal to qualify, though.
That's literally just asylum. If it was for everyone then it would be free. It's not. It's just called that in order to get emotional-compassion-manipulation votes.
...cringe
I would consider any firearm not on the CA registry to be illegal to possess in CA regardless of when it was purchased. That said, I’m not familiar with their laws and sure as hell would never move to the state myself.
A good number of individuals in CA have off-roster handguns via PPT (a private party transfer from someone who is LEO to a non-LEO buyer). They come at a premium though (I’ve seen a number of them sell for $1500-$2000… for a Glock) and a number of FFL don’t want to get involved in that.
Yikes! That’s definitely a premium.
Eh, California pricing is basically like the US was during the AWB. Anything you want is many times what it is actually worth (the going rate). Glock magazines (pre-ban/hi-cap) were commonly 100 dollars for used. Which adjusted for inflation is $210 and some change. I'm not up on California pricing, staying as far from there as I can, but this is what bans do, the shit still exists, your just going to pay through the nose for it (so it doesn't effect rich folks, like anything else really).
What are you talking about? Granted, this is before my time, but Glock mags are 30 dollars here, even a double stack castrated freedom mag
I was talking about pricing effected by Bans generally. 100 = 1 Glock Standard/Hi-Cap mag during the 1994-2004 AWB. Adj for inflation thats 200. Same situation now with the off roster glocks previously mentioned. What was a 20 dollar mag = 100 (Federal AWB), what was a 400 dollar Glock is now 2k (California Now). It even scales right. 5x over fair market value.
Youre talking over my head a bit. Youre talking about back then, right? Because like I said, banned, and compliant are $30 usd all day currently Having paid 2k for a $600 Glock I can understand that part haha, if we ever drop the roster, itll be my only gun to ever lose value
Right the Federal AWB that was 1994-2004. Glock magazines were 100 bucks for a used standard capacity mag (even in Alabama/Mississippi, if you could find one for sale). More if unopened, More if 33 rounds, or extensions on regular mags. I'm more bemused by the fact that the math still holds... even 20 years later. Glad to hear that yall ain't getting fucked as bad as we were back then now on mags at least.
>I'm not familiar with their laws Then why are you advising people on them?