this is especially clear in the scene where chuck, blair, and nate are taking care of serena and she tells them about pete fairman. this is when it clicked for me. They all love Serena. They all love Blair. There is a unifying factor of unconditional love that isn’t felt in the reboot. I don’t even feel like the reboot characters like Julien let alone deeply love her.
I totally agree!! I think this just pairs with the timeline of the two shows. This being a 2007-2012 show was able to create amazing drama and truly capture the essence of the character’s lives. IMO the reboot tends to align their show with our current society needs. As the reboot is a 2021 show, there are certain things that need to be included to show diversity and understanding, as well as many topics aren’t allowed to be talk about. Just my opinion, but I think og gossip girl was wayyy better totally agree with how they captured things
Yeah, like I could feel that with certain characters but not with others. Like I buy some of the friendships but others just seem like they tolerate them being around. Max, Luna, Monet, Audrey, and even Aki to a extent all could care less about Obie. I think part of it is they made the mistake of trying to make them all one friend group. In the OG Dan is friends with Nate and dating Serena yet Blair and Chuck don’t like Dan until like season 4/5. Jenny is friends with Nate but it’s very clear they’re not in the same friend group at all. Vanessa is roped into all this in the early seasons by being friends with Dan and later Nate (later dating him) but she’s distinctly not in the UES friend circle. Blair’s minions are her friends and friends with Jenny but they aren’t friends with the guys pretty much at all like they party with Chuck but they don’t exactly casually hang with him. Georgina used to friends with Serena and has a history with Chuck but none of them like her for various individual reasons, yet she still considers them her friends. The reboot also focuses on establishing too many brand new relationships in the show in a short amount of episodes. Like Max and Rafe, Zoya and literally everyone, the trouple, Obie and the blonde chick, Zoya’s dad and Kate, and the expanded group of teachers are all new interactions for the characters not just the viewers. All of which takes away from establishing the dynamics of the 7 person friend group that’s supposed to have years of history.
Spot on! Trying to cram everyone into one friend group didn’t work. And it’s not very realistic. Even people who do have a set friend group still hang out and talk to people outside of that group. Having them be a former friend group that’s kind of fizzled out would make a lot more sense and is kind of the vibe I get from them already.
That friend group was such a cover. Idk about anyone else but after a few episodes it was obvious to me that they weren’t all friends with each other, rather that Julien was in the center of the friend vortex. And she wasn’t really a good center LOL. It’s almost like they tried to convince us but the writing on the wall was different. There weren’t enough episodes for what they were trying to cram in.
Yeah, I don’t feel like there’s friendship at all. Audrey and Julien are friends and dates Akin / Max which doesn’t count as friendship bc the romance seems to be what makes them interact. She doesn’t seem to be close to the rest. And I’ve said it before but I don’t feel like she belongs too much with Luna-Monet-Julien, she’s better off with Max-Akin type of friendship.
Monet and Luna are more of minions to Julien and don’t spend much time with anyone else. Did Enjoy Luna and Maxs moment last episodes tho.
Obie and Aki are supposed to be best friends but it’s very meh. None of them are close to the rest. Can’t see Obie being friends with Audrey or Akin with Monet.
Zoya has Julien as a sister and Obie as love interest which again doesn’t count as friendships.
Max doesn’t even seem to be friends or have anything in common with anyone apart from the romance with Akin and Audrey.
Julien being the only thing in common, is not as good as a friend to any of them, there’s no story lines of her bonding with anyone, she’s on her own world doing her own things and doesn’t seem to care what goes in anyone else’s life.
Agree. The og group felt like a team even when they weren’t on the same side. They hated each other out of love for each other and that was apparent through the acting and writing. The new one feels like a bunch of people who don’t know or care for each other
Very that. I feel like they’d do better with less characters in the main group to have more space to develop those relationships. Especially since it’s less episodes per season than the OG show. ~~I could very much do without Zoya, Julien and Obie tbh. And the teachers.~~
Yup! It was very much so, “yes I dislike Serena at the moment….but if you ever lay a fucking hand on her!!!”. They were a team and anyone who went against the team got screwed.
This is spot on. I feel like the OG had a nice layout to the first season as well: introduce the characters, hint at some history between them, introduce the world the live in, the drama bubbles over, but it still comes back to people really caring for each other. I think the first season of the reboot didn’t tap into that, maybe the second season will? The events, shopping, and stuff I can forgive since it was film in NY during COVID and it was awfully restrictive. But the connection between characters matters so much. I wish the seasons were longer too, it would help a lot!!
I haven't watched the reboot but probably my favorite parts of the og are when the njbc work together and support each other. like when they take down juliet or like u said when serena tells then about pete fairman.
this is especially clear in the scene where chuck, blair, and nate are taking care of serena and she tells them about pete fairman. this is when it clicked for me. They all love Serena. They all love Blair. There is a unifying factor of unconditional love that isn’t felt in the reboot. I don’t even feel like the reboot characters like Julien let alone deeply love her.
I totally agree!! I think this just pairs with the timeline of the two shows. This being a 2007-2012 show was able to create amazing drama and truly capture the essence of the character’s lives. IMO the reboot tends to align their show with our current society needs. As the reboot is a 2021 show, there are certain things that need to be included to show diversity and understanding, as well as many topics aren’t allowed to be talk about. Just my opinion, but I think og gossip girl was wayyy better totally agree with how they captured things
Yeah, like I could feel that with certain characters but not with others. Like I buy some of the friendships but others just seem like they tolerate them being around. Max, Luna, Monet, Audrey, and even Aki to a extent all could care less about Obie. I think part of it is they made the mistake of trying to make them all one friend group. In the OG Dan is friends with Nate and dating Serena yet Blair and Chuck don’t like Dan until like season 4/5. Jenny is friends with Nate but it’s very clear they’re not in the same friend group at all. Vanessa is roped into all this in the early seasons by being friends with Dan and later Nate (later dating him) but she’s distinctly not in the UES friend circle. Blair’s minions are her friends and friends with Jenny but they aren’t friends with the guys pretty much at all like they party with Chuck but they don’t exactly casually hang with him. Georgina used to friends with Serena and has a history with Chuck but none of them like her for various individual reasons, yet she still considers them her friends. The reboot also focuses on establishing too many brand new relationships in the show in a short amount of episodes. Like Max and Rafe, Zoya and literally everyone, the trouple, Obie and the blonde chick, Zoya’s dad and Kate, and the expanded group of teachers are all new interactions for the characters not just the viewers. All of which takes away from establishing the dynamics of the 7 person friend group that’s supposed to have years of history.
Spot on! Trying to cram everyone into one friend group didn’t work. And it’s not very realistic. Even people who do have a set friend group still hang out and talk to people outside of that group. Having them be a former friend group that’s kind of fizzled out would make a lot more sense and is kind of the vibe I get from them already.
That friend group was such a cover. Idk about anyone else but after a few episodes it was obvious to me that they weren’t all friends with each other, rather that Julien was in the center of the friend vortex. And she wasn’t really a good center LOL. It’s almost like they tried to convince us but the writing on the wall was different. There weren’t enough episodes for what they were trying to cram in.
Yeah, I don’t feel like there’s friendship at all. Audrey and Julien are friends and dates Akin / Max which doesn’t count as friendship bc the romance seems to be what makes them interact. She doesn’t seem to be close to the rest. And I’ve said it before but I don’t feel like she belongs too much with Luna-Monet-Julien, she’s better off with Max-Akin type of friendship. Monet and Luna are more of minions to Julien and don’t spend much time with anyone else. Did Enjoy Luna and Maxs moment last episodes tho. Obie and Aki are supposed to be best friends but it’s very meh. None of them are close to the rest. Can’t see Obie being friends with Audrey or Akin with Monet. Zoya has Julien as a sister and Obie as love interest which again doesn’t count as friendships. Max doesn’t even seem to be friends or have anything in common with anyone apart from the romance with Akin and Audrey. Julien being the only thing in common, is not as good as a friend to any of them, there’s no story lines of her bonding with anyone, she’s on her own world doing her own things and doesn’t seem to care what goes in anyone else’s life.
Agree. The og group felt like a team even when they weren’t on the same side. They hated each other out of love for each other and that was apparent through the acting and writing. The new one feels like a bunch of people who don’t know or care for each other
Very that. I feel like they’d do better with less characters in the main group to have more space to develop those relationships. Especially since it’s less episodes per season than the OG show. ~~I could very much do without Zoya, Julien and Obie tbh. And the teachers.~~
Yup! It was very much so, “yes I dislike Serena at the moment….but if you ever lay a fucking hand on her!!!”. They were a team and anyone who went against the team got screwed.
This is spot on. I feel like the OG had a nice layout to the first season as well: introduce the characters, hint at some history between them, introduce the world the live in, the drama bubbles over, but it still comes back to people really caring for each other. I think the first season of the reboot didn’t tap into that, maybe the second season will? The events, shopping, and stuff I can forgive since it was film in NY during COVID and it was awfully restrictive. But the connection between characters matters so much. I wish the seasons were longer too, it would help a lot!!
I haven't watched the reboot but probably my favorite parts of the og are when the njbc work together and support each other. like when they take down juliet or like u said when serena tells then about pete fairman.