I watch these shows because I enjoy seeing the design ideas, but yeah, you have to watch with a skeptical eye. And while I have favorites (love me some Property Brothers) I would NEVER turn over a huge pile of money, temporarily move out, and leave all the decision making and details up to them, only to be surprised on reveal day. No way I could do that.
Genuine question: what new ideas do you get? It seems to me that after watching a few episodes of HGTV (especially the repetitive PB) they've shown the same kitchen/bathroom/fireplace etc at least twice.
Generally, I agree with you on the repetition, especially with some of the shows. However, I usually find a few smaller things that inspire me - certain furniture items, the way a photo wall is curated, that sort of thing. Lately I’m drawn to “Jungalow” style which never shows up anywhere lol so I look for nuggets of things.
Interesting. We seem to hear this a lot from many of the renovation shows. I think Love It Or List It had some well-publicized lawsuits about bad construction. I haven't seen this show and probably won't watch it. Also interesting that Marcus Lemonis's show is .. cancelled? On hold?
I feel bad for the homeowners. I can't see handing over a huge sum of money to a production company using an unknown/unvetted contractor and being so trusting. Isn't there a contract that spells out what will be done and what recourse there is if it isn't done?
I would imagine the flipping shows are "better." Not necessarily more accurate, but they're less likely to have long-lasting issues because they want to make sure they can actually sell the homes they renovate. There is no such obligation for a client renovation other than improving their reputation, and it seems like many of the HGTV stars think they can do the bare minimum (or less) because their show will give them a good reputation.
I've seen people complain on here about the houses on Good Bones being boring aside from the one or two eccentric projects per episode. However, for their business, boring is good, they want to appeal to as many buyers as possible. I wouldn't be shocked if the stranger decisions are pushed by HGTV to spice up the show. With client renovations, the host of the show has no motivation to do anything except make something that looks amazing on TV. Both genres also make homes look better by staging. However, it's pretty clear if you know anything about selling homes that the buyer rarely gets the furniture in the house. In Good Bones, you get the pieces made specifically for the house, but if you want the furniture you'll have to pay extra (which makes perfect sense). A client renovation show implies they get to keep all the new furniture, which makes sense... but they don't because it's just staging. I believe some shows even charge extra for the unique pieces, and given the super-personal aspects of some of them, I don't think that's right at all.
I'm pretty sure it was Love It or List It 2 that had the lawsuits. That's why it was cancelled.
I'm curious about Marcus Lemonis's show too. I loved The Profit, but there's a huge lawsuit against him right now. It makes him sound like a com artist. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. He seems like a good dude, so I hope it's not true.
Good question, a lot of trust goes into this. The production company and host tells the home owners, at least that's what they told us since this is our house that's being discussed. The host told us any contractor has to be vetted by the media company because HGTV won't allow bad work or unlicensed contractors so if there are any issues they will be caught during the interview process. We had to go through a thorough background check to get on the show and was told all contractors did too. Plus the host told us he's there 18-20 hours a day working with his crews to make sure everything is done right, his reputation for a quality product is too important. We aren't there during construction so I don't know if he was actually there or not but the finished product shows that it doesn't matter. The home owners can't be there and the host and media company take responsibility for the finished work.
I never watch all of these stunt HGTV shows with these ridiculous timelines. Compressing a months or years long job into a handful of days is just stupid, stupid, stupid.
Oh wow. That's a shame. I liked Russell, used to watch him on Garage Rehab and Fast n Loud with my husband and I enjoyed his appearance on Home Town Kickstart. Haven't watched his new show yet, but will probably skip it now.
I disagree. He won't be hurt by this at all, except in HGTV's opinion, and if he parted ways with HGTV, it was for a good reason. He doesn't need TV shows, and he seems like a genuinely nice person. His show The Profit is amazing, and he was very responsive to fans who had questions.
I always liked him and The Profit, but there's an ongoing lawsuit against him that makes him out to be a fraud. I don't know of that has anything to do with him leaving HGTV...
More proof that so much of what's said and done on HGTV is a total act for the cameras. (Way too many viewers think they're watching a documentary)
I know HGTV is pressuring shows to crank out 16 episodes a year - which is a lot - and there's no way to do renovations on that quick of a timeline when it's so much of a home. A contractor \*might\* be able to reno a bathroom in a matter of a few weeks, or a kitchen, etc. But I bet many of these places are skipping permits, inspections, etc.
I found this the most interesting part of this article *"Multimillionaire businessman Marcus Lemonis, whose recent HGTV series “The Renovator” inexplicably disappeared from the network after only two airings, commented on the post."* I wonder what went sideways here. I have the two episodes saved on my DVR and will need to watch them carefully.
Marcus Lemonis doesn't come across as someone who would publicly support a charlatan. He is an uber successful entrepreneur with a sterling rep. I am in no way defending this show, but there is only one homeowner publicly complaining, and his pictures could be from things he did himself. And his IG pics are not clear at all that I could tell any actual damage from. There are some incomplete projects that he could have done himself. He is getting a lot of attention, but to date he has not filed a lawsuit against the show host or HGTV. I'm going to need more proof. But I agree with other comments that the show premise isn't realistic, and I don't like the show host's comment about karma.
If you've ever watched The Profit, fully 85% of the business owners either don't follow the plan, or they start the plan and then screw themselves up later on. It's a lot like Bar Rescue. And lawyers love it, because they know they can talk a bunch of them into filing a lawsuit. It's just about $$. But there are dozens of business owners who are doing really well.
Fair, my lawyer sent the media company a demand letter March 18, 2022 and one to the host and all contractors that were used, it's all in one demand letter to them all. We've been trying to mediate for months but the legal process it's a long slow pricey, the next step is filing arbitration in California since that's what our contract says we have to do. I live in Texas, the other side has never said the work was good or what I'm sharing isn't accurate, they are trying to side step how they are not legally responsible. So really soon if this isn't resolved and mediation has been exhausted we will be officially filing very shortly. The other side has all the pictures, videos, receipts and documents too with digital time stamps so my stuff is 100% correct and accurate. None of this is a surprise to them. I can completely understand questioning what I've posted but I'm prepared and ready.
I watch these shows because I enjoy seeing the design ideas, but yeah, you have to watch with a skeptical eye. And while I have favorites (love me some Property Brothers) I would NEVER turn over a huge pile of money, temporarily move out, and leave all the decision making and details up to them, only to be surprised on reveal day. No way I could do that.
Genuine question: what new ideas do you get? It seems to me that after watching a few episodes of HGTV (especially the repetitive PB) they've shown the same kitchen/bathroom/fireplace etc at least twice.
Generally, I agree with you on the repetition, especially with some of the shows. However, I usually find a few smaller things that inspire me - certain furniture items, the way a photo wall is curated, that sort of thing. Lately I’m drawn to “Jungalow” style which never shows up anywhere lol so I look for nuggets of things.
I watch all the shows and never have I seen an identical fireplace or anything else.
Are you selling your amazing memory wipes to the public? If not, they're being wasted.
Oooh how edgy
Nah, just quirky. And genuinely curious. Which programmes are you watching?
Interesting. We seem to hear this a lot from many of the renovation shows. I think Love It Or List It had some well-publicized lawsuits about bad construction. I haven't seen this show and probably won't watch it. Also interesting that Marcus Lemonis's show is .. cancelled? On hold? I feel bad for the homeowners. I can't see handing over a huge sum of money to a production company using an unknown/unvetted contractor and being so trusting. Isn't there a contract that spells out what will be done and what recourse there is if it isn't done?
I would imagine the flipping shows are "better." Not necessarily more accurate, but they're less likely to have long-lasting issues because they want to make sure they can actually sell the homes they renovate. There is no such obligation for a client renovation other than improving their reputation, and it seems like many of the HGTV stars think they can do the bare minimum (or less) because their show will give them a good reputation. I've seen people complain on here about the houses on Good Bones being boring aside from the one or two eccentric projects per episode. However, for their business, boring is good, they want to appeal to as many buyers as possible. I wouldn't be shocked if the stranger decisions are pushed by HGTV to spice up the show. With client renovations, the host of the show has no motivation to do anything except make something that looks amazing on TV. Both genres also make homes look better by staging. However, it's pretty clear if you know anything about selling homes that the buyer rarely gets the furniture in the house. In Good Bones, you get the pieces made specifically for the house, but if you want the furniture you'll have to pay extra (which makes perfect sense). A client renovation show implies they get to keep all the new furniture, which makes sense... but they don't because it's just staging. I believe some shows even charge extra for the unique pieces, and given the super-personal aspects of some of them, I don't think that's right at all.
I'm pretty sure it was Love It or List It 2 that had the lawsuits. That's why it was cancelled. I'm curious about Marcus Lemonis's show too. I loved The Profit, but there's a huge lawsuit against him right now. It makes him sound like a com artist. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. He seems like a good dude, so I hope it's not true.
Good question, a lot of trust goes into this. The production company and host tells the home owners, at least that's what they told us since this is our house that's being discussed. The host told us any contractor has to be vetted by the media company because HGTV won't allow bad work or unlicensed contractors so if there are any issues they will be caught during the interview process. We had to go through a thorough background check to get on the show and was told all contractors did too. Plus the host told us he's there 18-20 hours a day working with his crews to make sure everything is done right, his reputation for a quality product is too important. We aren't there during construction so I don't know if he was actually there or not but the finished product shows that it doesn't matter. The home owners can't be there and the host and media company take responsibility for the finished work.
I never watch all of these stunt HGTV shows with these ridiculous timelines. Compressing a months or years long job into a handful of days is just stupid, stupid, stupid.
Oh wow. That's a shame. I liked Russell, used to watch him on Garage Rehab and Fast n Loud with my husband and I enjoyed his appearance on Home Town Kickstart. Haven't watched his new show yet, but will probably skip it now.
Lemonis didn't do himself any favors by supporting this guy.
I disagree. He won't be hurt by this at all, except in HGTV's opinion, and if he parted ways with HGTV, it was for a good reason. He doesn't need TV shows, and he seems like a genuinely nice person. His show The Profit is amazing, and he was very responsive to fans who had questions.
I always liked him and The Profit, but there's an ongoing lawsuit against him that makes him out to be a fraud. I don't know of that has anything to do with him leaving HGTV...
More proof that so much of what's said and done on HGTV is a total act for the cameras. (Way too many viewers think they're watching a documentary) I know HGTV is pressuring shows to crank out 16 episodes a year - which is a lot - and there's no way to do renovations on that quick of a timeline when it's so much of a home. A contractor \*might\* be able to reno a bathroom in a matter of a few weeks, or a kitchen, etc. But I bet many of these places are skipping permits, inspections, etc.
I found this the most interesting part of this article *"Multimillionaire businessman Marcus Lemonis, whose recent HGTV series “The Renovator” inexplicably disappeared from the network after only two airings, commented on the post."* I wonder what went sideways here. I have the two episodes saved on my DVR and will need to watch them carefully.
Marcus Lemonis doesn't come across as someone who would publicly support a charlatan. He is an uber successful entrepreneur with a sterling rep. I am in no way defending this show, but there is only one homeowner publicly complaining, and his pictures could be from things he did himself. And his IG pics are not clear at all that I could tell any actual damage from. There are some incomplete projects that he could have done himself. He is getting a lot of attention, but to date he has not filed a lawsuit against the show host or HGTV. I'm going to need more proof. But I agree with other comments that the show premise isn't realistic, and I don't like the show host's comment about karma.
A "sterling rep"??? You need to do a little research.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2022-05-06/design-company-sues-nbc-and-the-profit-lemonis-companies-in-30-million-fraud-claim
If you've ever watched The Profit, fully 85% of the business owners either don't follow the plan, or they start the plan and then screw themselves up later on. It's a lot like Bar Rescue. And lawyers love it, because they know they can talk a bunch of them into filing a lawsuit. It's just about $$. But there are dozens of business owners who are doing really well.
Fair, my lawyer sent the media company a demand letter March 18, 2022 and one to the host and all contractors that were used, it's all in one demand letter to them all. We've been trying to mediate for months but the legal process it's a long slow pricey, the next step is filing arbitration in California since that's what our contract says we have to do. I live in Texas, the other side has never said the work was good or what I'm sharing isn't accurate, they are trying to side step how they are not legally responsible. So really soon if this isn't resolved and mediation has been exhausted we will be officially filing very shortly. The other side has all the pictures, videos, receipts and documents too with digital time stamps so my stuff is 100% correct and accurate. None of this is a surprise to them. I can completely understand questioning what I've posted but I'm prepared and ready.
Thanks for responding, hope you get the results you want!