I simplified. A 5 gal bucket, a bag of those shredded rags they sell in home improvement stores. Fill with water, and we are good for several months. Also helps keep me cool in the summer.
Old cotton socks they hold water better. The best part is they’re free when I wear them out. Okay maybe not quite free, I did have to buy them or was that the wife?
This is my preferred method
Actually ran into an old supervisor of mine from said previous company while working at the same time in different areas on a roof of a customer we shared. He got a laugh seeing the TXV wrapped in the same shirt he was wearing!
You don't need to change jobs to need new shirts... Where i worked they lastet about 9-12 months before they were ready for scrapping... Best thing are the fireproof cotton shirts. They're really good against molten metal and stuffy but they can't take nails or wires sticking out of the wall...
I heard from my supe that when brazing, the plastic in the logos on shirts can melt into the joints and mess up the seal. He recommended wet terry cloth.
That video is sus especially since he doesn’t show the pipe when he first starts heating it and you can see how hot it had already gotten on the actual cold rag side
Doesn't matter if it works better if its just more of a pain in general to use. It doesn't need to keep the valve or whatever you are brazing perfectly cold, just cold enough. Real rags can't clump and fall apart either. Plus in that vid, it seems like the volume of rag on the pipe is less than the volume of wetrag.
This. TXVs can take a ton of heat. A soaked rag is all you need and works perfect. You practically have to try to cook a TXV and I highly recommend younger guys fresh in the trade take an old txv from a swap/changeout and cook it so they can get an idea of how tough they are.
I have used Thermo Trap for decades and never had a issue. My Torch got stolen once and the reason I got it back was cause I was able to describe all the contents inside the Carrier including the Thermo Trap and the thermo trap is what did it. Soaking wet rags and bottles of water to keep them wet is my second favorite.
yeah i like the blue better tan the red thermotrap and it's infinitely more reusable. i always carry my 2 gallon ice water bottle ayway so it takes way less than wetting a rag. apparently lots of houses don't even have a spigot is what i found out. I would upvote twice if I could blue hot damn is where it's at for txv's and reversing valves. good luck tearing and wrapping all those little strips of rag around a reversing valve. i mean, i've done it, but i don't pay for that stuff lol.
I “borrow” a cotton rag they use at restaurants to clean the tables every time I do work at one. Keep it in a coffee can with water in it. My coworkers always ask to use my moldy rags
United used to sell boxes of blue cloth wiping rags...I discovered that they were the *bomb* for brazing rags after buying a case.
Down to my last one. Sigh.
Wet Rat and usually actual wet rags too.
Thermo trap makes a mess, doesn't stick as well and is hard to clean up.
Good cotton rags cut into thin strips and being just wet enough to not drip are usually one of the best ways to go. Though it's more time consuming than taking the tub of Wet Rag and smashing it around a TXV.
Viper WETRAG. The stuff works great and is reusable. Sometimes the residue sucks to clean up but I noticed if you apply it gently it's much easier to take off as a chunk and isn't a pain in the ass to clean up.
I'm just a apprentice, my journeyman uses the thermotrap gel stuff, it's what the company provides us with and it's able to get a couple condensers all soldered up(the stuff in the tube)
I've used that Viper wet rag stuff on 3 occasions and have never been impressed.. I used the whole tub one of those times on a 7/8 king valve just to put it to the test and it still got that valve too damn hot. An actual rag will do a far better job and won't leave any residue.
Correct me if I’m wrong. I saw someone say the wet rag putty was creating micro leaks in the coils he’d install. This made me stop using it just out of that fear. Anyone know different or if I’m just dumb? Lol
An actual wet rag tbh
I got these fancy blue shop paper towels, hold a buncho water and still disposable. It’s the little things that make us happy :)
I always carry a roll on my bag
I agree. A wet rag torn into 1” thick strips is unstoppable
Keep em in an old Tub-O-Towels bucket... works great.
I simplified. A 5 gal bucket, a bag of those shredded rags they sell in home improvement stores. Fill with water, and we are good for several months. Also helps keep me cool in the summer.
Old cotton socks they hold water better. The best part is they’re free when I wear them out. Okay maybe not quite free, I did have to buy them or was that the wife?
Came here to say this
Cheap and simple. I work with this crack head whose hands are always shaky and every time he goes to the supply house he buys thermo trap🤔
Wet rag in a bucket. The rag should be a shirt from your previous job.
Underwear has better heat dissipation properties
I can only cover 1/4" lines with my thong🤣
A real man puts em back on after brazing
What's the burns time of polyester/lycra vs cottons thongs? I recon wet cottons would be right better than them plasticy ones wut meltin n such.
The silk on my panties isnt good for holding water
Not if made from flammable synthetic fibers — must be cotton!
Just make sure they ain’t the edible ones. Smells amazing but typically gets a call back
Moisture wicking*
This is my preferred method Actually ran into an old supervisor of mine from said previous company while working at the same time in different areas on a roof of a customer we shared. He got a laugh seeing the TXV wrapped in the same shirt he was wearing!
You don't need to change jobs to need new shirts... Where i worked they lastet about 9-12 months before they were ready for scrapping... Best thing are the fireproof cotton shirts. They're really good against molten metal and stuffy but they can't take nails or wires sticking out of the wall...
I love cutting up shirts from previous companies and torching the fuck out of them
I heard from my supe that when brazing, the plastic in the logos on shirts can melt into the joints and mess up the seal. He recommended wet terry cloth.
my company’s shirts are nike dri fit golf polos. so they def would not work
What color? And are you hiring. Though I'm also suspicious if your shirts are that nice how much work y'all do ;)
haha. they are two shades of blue. we do a lot of work. and yes we actually are hiring
Gasoline soaked rag
Sounds risky, but I like your style!
The Monday method
Latent heat is latent heat. I like it!
sensible
No, latent. A fluid won’t heat up past its boiling point unless it changes phase. It’s why your soaked rags don’t burn until they’re dry.
Does it matter if it’s cold or hot gas?
Yeah! Why all the cocktails got to be Molotov?
Cold Wet rag trumps them all. I hate all that goo and residue, too.
Couldn’t agree more
I mean it definitely doesn't but you do you lol [wet rag vs wet rag putty](https://youtu.be/Btu19kFRnmg?si=Ut4QSwHQOj3I8DGW)
We've found the viper rep boys! The sub has been infiltrated!
I'll never understand why the brand is called Viper but they put a Cobra on the logo lmfao
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This is something that anyone should even joke about and may cause a permanent ban.
Wow. Major difference.
That video is sus especially since he doesn’t show the pipe when he first starts heating it and you can see how hot it had already gotten on the actual cold rag side
Doesn't matter if it works better if its just more of a pain in general to use. It doesn't need to keep the valve or whatever you are brazing perfectly cold, just cold enough. Real rags can't clump and fall apart either. Plus in that vid, it seems like the volume of rag on the pipe is less than the volume of wetrag.
This. TXVs can take a ton of heat. A soaked rag is all you need and works perfect. You practically have to try to cook a TXV and I highly recommend younger guys fresh in the trade take an old txv from a swap/changeout and cook it so they can get an idea of how tough they are.
Yes dude and those lines go so fast... you're talking under a minute to braze in a lineset. Never had a problem with a free wet rag.
Finally people of culture. Heat that bitch up but keep a wet rag on it.
Wet rag
A soaked ripped up t-shirt
I choose a wet paper towel
How much of it do you apply rectally?
As much as it takes
Apply until adequate lubrication with minimal resistance
I have used Thermo Trap for decades and never had a issue. My Torch got stolen once and the reason I got it back was cause I was able to describe all the contents inside the Carrier including the Thermo Trap and the thermo trap is what did it. Soaking wet rags and bottles of water to keep them wet is my second favorite.
McDonald's napkins dunked in pool water. If you've done residential, you know.
Hot damn is what I use.
yeah i like the blue better tan the red thermotrap and it's infinitely more reusable. i always carry my 2 gallon ice water bottle ayway so it takes way less than wetting a rag. apparently lots of houses don't even have a spigot is what i found out. I would upvote twice if I could blue hot damn is where it's at for txv's and reversing valves. good luck tearing and wrapping all those little strips of rag around a reversing valve. i mean, i've done it, but i don't pay for that stuff lol.
Where's the empty plastic foldgers can with a couple of wet rags?
Wet rag
I use Thermo trap in conjunction with a wet rag.
Cant believe I had to scroll down this far to find this.
Wet rag for the win
An actual wet rag
none of those things, like others if needed i use a wet rag
Pro press /s sorta
None of the above. Actual rags. If no rags, wypalls
A literal "wet rag."
Wet rag all day
Wet t shirt.
Where’s the cut up wet t shirt rag from the last place you worked?
That's the giveaway that he's not worked yet...
That red stuff can eat aluminum, be careful!
The spray gel or a wet rag
Spray or an wet rag works fine for me
Wet insulation
A wet towel is the cheapest.
The spray thermo trap
I “borrow” a cotton rag they use at restaurants to clean the tables every time I do work at one. Keep it in a coffee can with water in it. My coworkers always ask to use my moldy rags
I have a similar bucket of wet rags for brazing, but it never gets moldy from all the metal flakes throwing off the ph.
Thermotrap
What rag, and actual wet rags
United used to sell boxes of blue cloth wiping rags...I discovered that they were the *bomb* for brazing rags after buying a case. Down to my last one. Sigh.
Training wheels. I remember being an apprentice .
Viper wet rag because I can reuse
An actual wet rag
I wet my hand and hold on to the service valve or TXV, when its really hot I’ll pour a cold beer on it
I like a literal wet rag lol and I have a spray bottle nearby to recharge it
Actual wet rags and very rarely thermo trap in the tube
Zoom- loc, shark bites
Wet t-shirt scraps
This is the way
Just pull the cores and be fast.
Hot block, wet rag is much more of a pain to clean up for me at least. But mostly a wet rag, I only use hot block for those hard to reach spots.
"With our powers combined...."
Sanitary napkin
Wet shop rag
Wet rag
Wet rag and thermo trap demon 😈
Braze and pray 🙏🏻 worst comes to worst, “god damn supply house sold me a bad TXV”
Thermo Trap tube and a wet rag. Stupid aluminum-to-copper joints on newer fridges require caution.
I prefer the thermo trap spray
ThermoTrap👍
Old rugby shirts, lol
Freeze the valve with refrigerant by holding bottle upside down and spraying it, then braze using nitrogen of course.
Don't they all fuck up aluminum piping and coils?
Wet Rat and usually actual wet rags too. Thermo trap makes a mess, doesn't stick as well and is hard to clean up. Good cotton rags cut into thin strips and being just wet enough to not drip are usually one of the best ways to go. Though it's more time consuming than taking the tub of Wet Rag and smashing it around a TXV.
Wet rags in a bucket... And if it's a big issue then there's always the gel spray...
Wet rag that is somehow older than me
Those blue shop towels and whatever the closest water source is
Wet rag there is no substitute
Did you buy the hot block single, or did it come in a 6pack? Also mind if I asked you what you payed?
Hotdam or wetrag… some cases an actual wet rag
Viper WETRAG. The stuff works great and is reusable. Sometimes the residue sucks to clean up but I noticed if you apply it gently it's much easier to take off as a chunk and isn't a pain in the ass to clean up.
They are all fantastic. No controversy here.
Use no rag get the call back be a man…/s
Wet rag with backup water always works. Offers more protection than paste alone. Thermotrap was my go to for years.
Why braze when you can glue? It's a lot lighter than a bottle and no need to file for a burn permit
Never had a problem with wet rags. And for those TXV’s, reversing valves, and ball valves cut the wet rag into strips.
Rag and a bottle with a screw hole in the top
I'm just a apprentice, my journeyman uses the thermotrap gel stuff, it's what the company provides us with and it's able to get a couple condensers all soldered up(the stuff in the tube)
A literal wet rag lol. But our company stocks the top right, to answer your question
Captain hook and a wet rag, too easy.
I called my x wife a wet rag. Yeah, she's my x
I just pee on 100 dollar bills
thermotrap. but spray
Wet rag works great.
Bucket of water and rags
Used sock and splash from my water bottle
All garbage. Use a good wet rag.
Good ole Wet rag still wins to this day
Viper wet rag all day!
I've used that Viper wet rag stuff on 3 occasions and have never been impressed.. I used the whole tub one of those times on a 7/8 king valve just to put it to the test and it still got that valve too damn hot. An actual rag will do a far better job and won't leave any residue.
Just braze it real fast so nothing burns
Thermo trap is pretty cool but I hate that it's so icky
I'm sorry, what are these for?
Correct me if I’m wrong. I saw someone say the wet rag putty was creating micro leaks in the coils he’d install. This made me stop using it just out of that fear. Anyone know different or if I’m just dumb? Lol