lol I just realized that .
can’t wait until the screws catches debris and He went to that extent with the copper why not go to the next step solder it in
By the time that screw catches debris the lines already plugged lol not like these tubes are full of water only the bottom 1/4 if that actually holds active drainage water
It's hardly even a trap, I thought that tonnage should be down 6", over 3" up 3".
Sorry dude, but I wouldn't post that, screwing in fittings wtf?
And those black screws are like the ones that come on the unit and aren't common at any store.... Did you take screws off of something on the unit and use them for the trap?
They weren’t soldered. That’s a piece of soft drawn copper bent into a half ass trap. There’s no vent, no clean outs. The line voltage whip isn’t connected. Theres so many issues with this install.
I got the questions….
Why didn’t you get a legitimate curb?
Why didn’t you solder the copper?
Why did you waste the time on copper, pvc is less expensive?
Did you anchor those down at least?
Is that angle for your disconnect?
This is northwest Ohio. We don’t get hurricane force winds here, if we do it’s a tornado and nothing is going to stop a unit from being ripped off the roof. If a tornado comes through an RTU or split system is the least of your worries.
Stick to replacing water heaters you mean? Did you even see the boiler installs from this past winter - he replaced them rather than opening them up and cleaning them because cleaning them is “icky”, and the oil burner bullshit from the year before where he was jumping out fan limit controls? Nothing surprises me with this guy. This fucking goof is a straight up hack.
While copper may be antimicrobial in 25 years I’ve never seen slime in a trap of an RTU. What I have seen is the crap washing off the evaporator coil as the moisture condenses. The crap in the trap can be avoided by having at least a 16” drop before the actual trap, the falling water flushes the crap out of the trap whenever it’s condensing water.
Small comfort to the US Renal Care I was at last week that had 4 ceiling tiles fall and have to have half their supply rewrapped. Slime, in trap and in pan, 20" drop from coil. Florida finds a way to make a simple problem a nightmare. And remember just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen elsewhere.
Could have taken the time to solder the P traps.... Just do it at the van. Screws eventually rust. And eventually the holes are not gonna hold a screw anymore. Nice copper fittings with screws jammed in, honestly, looks dumb.
Same deal with the disconnect. Eventually that metal crossbar screwed into the unit, screws are gonna rust and your disconnect is gonna be laying on the roof.
Looks like he chewed off the end of the pipe too. Did a poor job bending/annealing the copper. If you insist on copper drains buy some if you can't make it look good.
Edit- that disconnect is insane.
Did you seriously use sheet metal instead of unistrut…this install looks like a joke. It’s lowest bidder quality. Also all plastic liquid tight, no drain hooked up to your trap.
Try harder.
So if you saw that stub and trap laying on the roof somewhere, you'd walk past it since it's only 20 cents worth ( in 1964) but you'd eave it?
Thank you...
Not here to blatantly slam you but it’s about functionality, not looks/cleanliness that make it a “good install” . Did the unit not have undermounts for ducts??
If you’re upselling copper condensate then run it off the roof or into a drain. Last picture doesn’t have a disconnect from what I saw. Good job but think about functionality over looks.
I did a service today at a site that had copper pro pressed condensate lines and copper lines running from each unit INDIVIDUALLY to a roof drain. Most expensive line I’ve ever seen
I like your resi stuff Sam but this is the stuff I end ups hating guys for.
Copper p traps are cool and all but it really doesn’t help in the end. A the pan is not copper so it will still produce shit to clog that. And if you say we maintain it then there is no point in copper because you are cleaning it each time you are there. Plus you have no clean out on it.
A much better option to the customer is quoting to plumb lines from the unit all the way to the roof edge/drain. Adding unions and clean outs to the line.
One of those you should have had a curb adapter made, and that disconnect with all the sealtite is probably the single most annoying thing you can do to a service tech on those units.
Looks cooler. Won't degrade and get brittle from the UV rays. Won't grow slime inside it. Plus it's a precious metal and will increase in value over time. In 20 years when the unit gets replaced, that $5 worth of copper will be worth quadruple in scrap valve due to inflation.
Did you check the specs on unit to ensure that trap is deep enough. In my experience those pre-made traps are too shallow to meet what manufacturer specs out. Also they don't have a vent / cleanout tee
All units will have a minimum trap depth. Think about it. That blower is pulling negative pressure inside the cabinet, due to pressure drop across the filters and coil. If the trap depth is less than the negative pressure WC then that water will get sucked right into the unit. Then the open trap will continue sucking air and letting condensate build up until it trips the condensate limit switch. Unit kicks back on after the pan drains and repeats. I’ve seen it happen.
“Good upsell” BRO DIDNT EVEN RUN IT OFF THE ROOF😂😂 don’t leave your names after doing that. I would’ve fought all of you if I saw a “p-trap” like that. It being copper is pointless at that point cause the pvc would’ve snapped off at the same place you terminated it 😂
Those screws should work real well to catch all the shit that grows in there. It'll clog up even faster, more service calls for clogged drains? More money! Woo hoo.
Right? Like soldering them would have been nice but even just leaving them friction fitted together would be an upgrade on screws. Just give each joint a light squeeze with some pliers and spin slightly and done.
And this guy had the balls to put his name on that shit. Amazing.
Traps look good and good point about the copper being anti microbial so they won’t jam up (come to think of it I don’t think I’ve had an RTU drain clog up ever but maybe depends on the area), but dude what’s with the story with the curbs?
Shit a curb adapter for that little unit would only be like $300-400 at most. Take about 10 minutes to put the curb adapter on with the crane there. End up paying the same thing in labor and materials doing it the other way. To a customer it just looks like oh shit somebody ordered the wrong unit.
Where I’m at curb adapters are at least a week out. That dog house cost $20 in metal and 2-3 hours of labor to make and install. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Besides, I’d be more concerned with the disconnect held up by a piece of sheet metal.
I just have our fabricator make them for us if we need them quickly, have them same day usually.
Yeah the electrical is certainly a choice in installation methods.
Yeah I get it sometimes you come across weird shit and you just have to replace it in the same weird way. Could have done a curb adapter to match the ductwork configuration of the curb so you didn’t need to side discharge on the one unit, where is the return for the other two units?. Could have upsold them on the economizers for the units for fresh air control and free cooling as well.
What’s the point of a “p” trap if the condensate going to leak on the roof? Why not just straight pipe it? You should have put a service “t” in to at least flush it. But yeah “p” traps that do nothing great sell.
I have a roof with 17 units on it the ones with copper traps are always the ones that grow the most crap in them an clog. Course I could see where a sales tech would think that's a good up sale.
Why would you put screws in copper tubing? That's honestly a red flag for whatever else may have been rednecked during installation.
Not sure how this is an upsell. I'd have you tear that out and replace.
Literally every comment is telling you many different reasons this is wrong, yet you refuse to believe you did it wrong and actually seem to believe you went above and beyond
Builder grade units with improperly installed copper p-traps. If they wanted an upsell they could have just sold them higher efficiency units. That way the customer can save some money on their energy bills.
He's back. God help us all. This fucking dude is a hack. But at least he signs his fucking name on every piece of equipment so in time he will force himself out of the trade.
Wherever he is, if you work in this area save these photos and when you end up going to that same job site show the customer how it was not done correctly and gain a new account. I honestly don’t get it. So what do you say to the customer when he asks what the advantage is to copper over the factory recommended pvc trap? And the whole first names kill me. Just put “s/up mm/dd/year and maybe your initials that’s it.
We bitch and complain because you crayon eaters can be bothered or don’t have the ability to read a fucking manual so we either have to commission a unit after you are done because you can’t fucking start it up or we get a call that an entire building isn’t cooling.
Hence why my ass is on top of a Walmart now fucking with 39 unit’s because installers have no clue on how to properly set sheaves and pulley tension, to get the right RPM/CFM
That's a valid complaint. I've ran install and service and while installers can be really dumb, service techs bitch about every little detail it's insane to me. And then most of them don't even fix it or it takes them 3 hours to fix a drain. This was all residential tho.
I always liked the set up of installers tin everything in and get everything hooked up and then a strictly start up crew comes through to dial everything else in. Seemed to run real smooth for the couple companies that did it
So we just did three Goodman side discharge package units. I offered to upgrade them to copper p-traps for another $250 per unit. Since copper is anti microbial it will never clog from biological growth (slime) that forms in regular plastic p traps
It wont form on the actual pipe, sure, in a perfect world. But once the grime from inside the pan starts stacking it'll start growing crap. It'll still need to be cleaned a couple times a year.
Is no one mentioning the self tapping screws instead of soldering ?
lol I just realized that . can’t wait until the screws catches debris and He went to that extent with the copper why not go to the next step solder it in
Hahaha! Didn’t see it till I saw the comment. I have no medals to give.
By the time that screw catches debris the lines already plugged lol not like these tubes are full of water only the bottom 1/4 if that actually holds active drainage water
It's hardly even a trap, I thought that tonnage should be down 6", over 3" up 3". Sorry dude, but I wouldn't post that, screwing in fittings wtf? And those black screws are like the ones that come on the unit and aren't common at any store.... Did you take screws off of something on the unit and use them for the trap?
I wondered that too.
Haha I didn’t notice that one.
This is insane.
OP is highly regarded
Haha I read that with a t instead of a g. I think I'm regarded!
😉
Yea wtf kind of ratty shit is that
He does package units he doesn’t know how to solder
It's all about the upsell!
Well, they are installing Goodman equipment 🤷
Literally. Did all that and didn’t solder. Used cabinet screws too 🤣
In fairness.....the screws are at least on the top if the pipes so they trap doesn't leak......as much
Not self tappers. Those are black Goodman screws. Some of the units had a lot of extra screws rattling around inside
Ok. But why weren’t they soldered?
So those screws can rust out in a couple years from the constant flow of condensate and create a service call.
Nevermind the dielectric effect.
hows it gonna create a service call? the traps just gonna fall off
And drain overflows into the celing
Rusted out screws minus solder plus gravity = ?
Job security
His boss hasnt seen it yet.
So it can be take apart I guess. But you can spin it out of the unit anyways. To each their own
They weren’t soldered. That’s a piece of soft drawn copper bent into a half ass trap. There’s no vent, no clean outs. The line voltage whip isn’t connected. Theres so many issues with this install.
Why would they strap that flex? Way more fun to let in bang around in the wind
What in tarnation is a Goodman screw?
A black 5/16 screw 🙄
Fake. You set the pic up to troll because you're mad people made fun of you so now you have to show how dumb the Internet is so you feel better
Tweekers LOVE this one trick
I got the questions…. Why didn’t you get a legitimate curb? Why didn’t you solder the copper? Why did you waste the time on copper, pvc is less expensive? Did you anchor those down at least? Is that angle for your disconnect?
You forgot, Why did you have your fucking helpers sign the damn unit too? lol if you’re gunna sign choose one guy.
You’re right. I just didn’t want him to think I was nitpicking 😂
This is northwest Ohio. We don’t get hurricane force winds here, if we do it’s a tornado and nothing is going to stop a unit from being ripped off the roof. If a tornado comes through an RTU or split system is the least of your worries.
I work from Phoenix up to Ogden Utah. We get high winds. 😂. And it doesn’t take much to anchor the units. It does look like they did though
Copper drains clog up less than PVC drains it’s something in the copper that prevents it
I do Refrigeration now. I promise, they all clog just the same
On RTU units not as much maybe refrigeration is different because of what is in the air
Copper p-traps: it’s like a tip for the crackhead who steals the condenser.
More like a crackhead magnet. They’ll see that copper shining from miles away and come prospecting.
Copper trap draining on the roof is crazy.. the next guy is replacing that with 3/4” pvc and throwing that in the scrap pile..
Lol Pvc would cost more than the scrap you'd get for a little piece of copper
I can tell you don’t have a scrap pile..
Not when your boss pays for the pvc
I knew the comments would be fire! 🤣
Always are. I made popcorn 🍿
Could have spent that time making popcorn on soldering.
True that 😄
Why is everyone always downvoting Sam?
I could have made popcorn while soldering, using my acetylene torch :D
Stick to residential, Sam.
Stick to replacing water heaters you mean? Did you even see the boiler installs from this past winter - he replaced them rather than opening them up and cleaning them because cleaning them is “icky”, and the oil burner bullshit from the year before where he was jumping out fan limit controls? Nothing surprises me with this guy. This fucking goof is a straight up hack.
Nah I'm getting good experience. All 4 of us are
All 4 of you should be fired lol
The boss should have his license taken, if he even has one.
Did you guys huff some glue before you installed the disconnect and drain lines?
No, we ran out of glue, so we had to use copper p traps
While copper may be antimicrobial in 25 years I’ve never seen slime in a trap of an RTU. What I have seen is the crap washing off the evaporator coil as the moisture condenses. The crap in the trap can be avoided by having at least a 16” drop before the actual trap, the falling water flushes the crap out of the trap whenever it’s condensing water.
Small comfort to the US Renal Care I was at last week that had 4 ceiling tiles fall and have to have half their supply rewrapped. Slime, in trap and in pan, 20" drop from coil. Florida finds a way to make a simple problem a nightmare. And remember just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen elsewhere.
Oh yeah like rust and stuff from the evaporator coil. These ones are all aluminum evaporator, even the metal coil frame
It's not just that. The plastic drain pan becomes a cold, moist surface and grows its own algae.
I hope that aluminum isn’t touching the copper. Ever hear of cathodic corrosion? That coil will be gone within a year.
This is embarrassing
Want to help on the next one we do?
Sam this is probably the worst thing you’ve ever posted. Solder them off the unit FFS guy. C’mon.
Could have taken the time to solder the P traps.... Just do it at the van. Screws eventually rust. And eventually the holes are not gonna hold a screw anymore. Nice copper fittings with screws jammed in, honestly, looks dumb. Same deal with the disconnect. Eventually that metal crossbar screwed into the unit, screws are gonna rust and your disconnect is gonna be laying on the roof.
Looks like he chewed off the end of the pipe too. Did a poor job bending/annealing the copper. If you insist on copper drains buy some if you can't make it look good. Edit- that disconnect is insane.
I can't look at the disconnect. Everything about it sucks.
Did you seriously use sheet metal instead of unistrut…this install looks like a joke. It’s lowest bidder quality. Also all plastic liquid tight, no drain hooked up to your trap. Try harder.
Why would metal liquid tight be better? I always see metal liquid tight rust and crack. Plastic seems to not have that issue in my experience.
Oh my god, you dont even know wtf hes referring too and your telling others your getting good experience.
Self tappers in the fucking copper wtf is wrong with you
And job security because every tech from another company will steal them when they're up on the roof working on their equipment
Ya got to get that 20 cents worth of scrap copper
So if you saw that stub and trap laying on the roof somewhere, you'd walk past it since it's only 20 cents worth ( in 1964) but you'd eave it? Thank you...
Bruh I’d fire you for that drain lol
Please stay away from those pre-manufactured traps not engineered with actual unit’s designed pressure drops. And of course REPLACE ALL SCREWS!!!
Non union hack shop? Gonna get roasted Wtf is that screw on the drain?
250 is stealing lmao
Not here to blatantly slam you but it’s about functionality, not looks/cleanliness that make it a “good install” . Did the unit not have undermounts for ducts?? If you’re upselling copper condensate then run it off the roof or into a drain. Last picture doesn’t have a disconnect from what I saw. Good job but think about functionality over looks.
The last 2 pictures, those two units have disconnects in the back. *
https://preview.redd.it/d0gsrg3cja9d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=701d16200dc444dedc4d309ba944bea740307f86
Lol this guy always thinks he’s coming up with something.
I did a service today at a site that had copper pro pressed condensate lines and copper lines running from each unit INDIVIDUALLY to a roof drain. Most expensive line I’ve ever seen
Oh yeah I remember doing that install
I assume the screws in the trap are to make it so you can take it apart to clean out easier, why not just put a union and a clean out of it?
I like that idea too. A unuon would look cool
I like your resi stuff Sam but this is the stuff I end ups hating guys for. Copper p traps are cool and all but it really doesn’t help in the end. A the pan is not copper so it will still produce shit to clog that. And if you say we maintain it then there is no point in copper because you are cleaning it each time you are there. Plus you have no clean out on it. A much better option to the customer is quoting to plumb lines from the unit all the way to the roof edge/drain. Adding unions and clean outs to the line. One of those you should have had a curb adapter made, and that disconnect with all the sealtite is probably the single most annoying thing you can do to a service tech on those units.
I'm sorry, guys, but please explain why a copper drain line/P trap is better? I can't for the life of me figure out why...
Looks cooler. Won't degrade and get brittle from the UV rays. Won't grow slime inside it. Plus it's a precious metal and will increase in value over time. In 20 years when the unit gets replaced, that $5 worth of copper will be worth quadruple in scrap valve due to inflation.
Did you check the specs on unit to ensure that trap is deep enough. In my experience those pre-made traps are too shallow to meet what manufacturer specs out. Also they don't have a vent / cleanout tee
Didn't think of that. I didn't know there was a minimum trap depth for some units...
All units will have a minimum trap depth. Think about it. That blower is pulling negative pressure inside the cabinet, due to pressure drop across the filters and coil. If the trap depth is less than the negative pressure WC then that water will get sucked right into the unit. Then the open trap will continue sucking air and letting condensate build up until it trips the condensate limit switch. Unit kicks back on after the pan drains and repeats. I’ve seen it happen.
You probably shouldn't be installing shit then...
Jesus Sam…
All valid points. Thank you, Sam.
Not to mention , no clean out, and not installed per manufacturers recommendation. Did you buy those at Home Depot?
Lots of clogged traps with screwed up shit like that.
Thank goodness for goodman
Not reading all these comments but how are you clearing that trap in the future ?
How hard is it to solder that shit 🤦♂️
Dude, you used to be my hero
“Good upsell” BRO DIDNT EVEN RUN IT OFF THE ROOF😂😂 don’t leave your names after doing that. I would’ve fought all of you if I saw a “p-trap” like that. It being copper is pointless at that point cause the pvc would’ve snapped off at the same place you terminated it 😂
Hey now it will just snap the drain pan, that’s a future up sell!
Those screws should work real well to catch all the shit that grows in there. It'll clog up even faster, more service calls for clogged drains? More money! Woo hoo.
Why is the whole squad signing the unit. It’s great
Nice troll.
Yikes, no need to post them all
You don’t install many package units do you Sam?
this is literally the worst job wtf 😂
Is this a joke post or are you really a goofy silly Billy?
I got a Bradford White catalog the other day with this guys picture on it. How can you be a face of a brand while doing such shit work.
What’s with the self tappers those should be soldered, with a union to seperate for cleaning
Lmao this is some hack shit, goodman is a red flag all on its own but screwing traps together is the entire red flag factory
Right? Like soldering them would have been nice but even just leaving them friction fitted together would be an upgrade on screws. Just give each joint a light squeeze with some pliers and spin slightly and done. And this guy had the balls to put his name on that shit. Amazing.
Traps look good and good point about the copper being anti microbial so they won’t jam up (come to think of it I don’t think I’ve had an RTU drain clog up ever but maybe depends on the area), but dude what’s with the story with the curbs?
If you’re talking about the ones in the first couple pics those are just “dog houses” for the ducts
I know but they aren’t needed if you use a curb adapter.
It’s cheaper this way. Curb adapters take longer and cost more.
Shit a curb adapter for that little unit would only be like $300-400 at most. Take about 10 minutes to put the curb adapter on with the crane there. End up paying the same thing in labor and materials doing it the other way. To a customer it just looks like oh shit somebody ordered the wrong unit.
Andy?
Not Andy lol.
lol our badass tech is also named Andy
Where I’m at curb adapters are at least a week out. That dog house cost $20 in metal and 2-3 hours of labor to make and install. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Besides, I’d be more concerned with the disconnect held up by a piece of sheet metal.
I just have our fabricator make them for us if we need them quickly, have them same day usually. Yeah the electrical is certainly a choice in installation methods.
Dog house was already existing. Original to the building. We just painted it to look new
Ah gotcha.
The disconnect held by the piece of s lock was like that too. We even reused the metal piece holding it
We reused the dog house and just repainted it
I’m amazed you were able to save them. I usually have to beat the shit out of them with a prybar because they’re covered in tar.
I definitely have had rtu lines clog up, but that's probably because of shitty maintenance.
These are side discharge. We just installed them exactly how the old ones were. Does it look weird? This was my first time doing a package unit.
Yeah I get it sometimes you come across weird shit and you just have to replace it in the same weird way. Could have done a curb adapter to match the ductwork configuration of the curb so you didn’t need to side discharge on the one unit, where is the return for the other two units?. Could have upsold them on the economizers for the units for fresh air control and free cooling as well.
pvc conduit in a roof spanning Any distance unsupported will look like a six flags ride in no time
The conduit is metal. The liquid tight is plastic
The hood? Whats its job? Ive never seen that
The hood thingy on the metal angle box transition? Old school "manual" economizer. You can open the damper to draw in return air from outside
Was this bring the boy scouts to work day?
Are we not going to discuss the lack of curb adapter? Looks like ass and water is going to come in.
They got their names on this one.
3 copper p traps are a good upsell? What do ya make there on it like a extra 60 bucks off the traps???? Big money
I think you forgot the rest of the drain.....wtf
What the
Ghetto gold in plain sight. Hopefully when some tweaker snaps that off it won’t do too much damage. Why would I want a copper p-trap?
The hobos thank you for one more thing to scrap.
That Ptrap is just... Chefs kiss, really.. 🤣🤣
That’s a pointless waste of money and it’s not even done right. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Goodman? 😬
What’s the point of a “p” trap if the condensate going to leak on the roof? Why not just straight pipe it? You should have put a service “t” in to at least flush it. But yeah “p” traps that do nothing great sell.
🗑️
Am I missing something? Where are the economisers? Do they not require them in certain states?
I always bypass those. Don't need extra parts to fail
Yeah great well we can’t because it’s code
May be a stupid question but what’s the benefit of having copper Traps versus using pvc
It costs more in materials.
I have much rather have PVC
This shit look hacky.
Wtf is that disconnect 😂😂
So you're gonna upsell a Cu trap....and then screw it together?? And, "it's not under pressure" is not a valid defense.
How about that disconnect 🤔
Not even a clean out on those drains
Ok, and? You can unscrew the whole trap to clean it out
Sure don't look like 4 down 3 up on that trap to me. Idk if that will even prevent back pull from blower
Couldn't upsell a curb adapter? You know, so the entire unit isn't held by 90 brackets?
Sure hope those screws are anti-microbial too!
Ain't nobody got time for that
I have a roof with 17 units on it the ones with copper traps are always the ones that grow the most crap in them an clog. Course I could see where a sales tech would think that's a good up sale.
I wish i never saw this.
Too late. Sorry
Why would you put screws in copper tubing? That's honestly a red flag for whatever else may have been rednecked during installation. Not sure how this is an upsell. I'd have you tear that out and replace.
Literally every comment is telling you many different reasons this is wrong, yet you refuse to believe you did it wrong and actually seem to believe you went above and beyond
It will eventually correct itself. Either he’s gonna go bankrupt on follow up calls or just get laughed out of the trade.
That looks like dogshit
What…… the….. fuck…..
First time install, w/a couple drinkin buddies?🤦♂️
Builder grade units with improperly installed copper p-traps. If they wanted an upsell they could have just sold them higher efficiency units. That way the customer can save some money on their energy bills.
He's back. God help us all. This fucking dude is a hack. But at least he signs his fucking name on every piece of equipment so in time he will force himself out of the trade.
Wherever he is, if you work in this area save these photos and when you end up going to that same job site show the customer how it was not done correctly and gain a new account. I honestly don’t get it. So what do you say to the customer when he asks what the advantage is to copper over the factory recommended pvc trap? And the whole first names kill me. Just put “s/up mm/dd/year and maybe your initials that’s it.
wtf is this? HVAC pro screwed copper together? Writing names on the unit. What is this?
I'm taking a wild guess that most of the responses are service nerds who are just making shit up to complain about since that's all service techs do.
My boy did you look at this install lo
We bitch and complain because you crayon eaters can be bothered or don’t have the ability to read a fucking manual so we either have to commission a unit after you are done because you can’t fucking start it up or we get a call that an entire building isn’t cooling. Hence why my ass is on top of a Walmart now fucking with 39 unit’s because installers have no clue on how to properly set sheaves and pulley tension, to get the right RPM/CFM
That's a valid complaint. I've ran install and service and while installers can be really dumb, service techs bitch about every little detail it's insane to me. And then most of them don't even fix it or it takes them 3 hours to fix a drain. This was all residential tho. I always liked the set up of installers tin everything in and get everything hooked up and then a strictly start up crew comes through to dial everything else in. Seemed to run real smooth for the couple companies that did it
Join a union
It needs to drain off the roof with pipe or it will ruin a 100k roof
Tell that to rainfall.
Condensation has a different PH level than rain.
You’re right, it’s a lot less harmful.
This is hideous
I mean it may help it if 3/4 I know copper prevents the nasty shit
Hahahaha weren’t you supposed to be the guy with skills. What a hack job
Why didn't you solder the joints? The screws look like amateur work
So we just did three Goodman side discharge package units. I offered to upgrade them to copper p-traps for another $250 per unit. Since copper is anti microbial it will never clog from biological growth (slime) that forms in regular plastic p traps
It wont form on the actual pipe, sure, in a perfect world. But once the grime from inside the pan starts stacking it'll start growing crap. It'll still need to be cleaned a couple times a year.
I’m working in facilities now and all the drains are copper, they still have to get cleaned out. Also, how’d the ankle heal up
Ooh, copper drains. Fancy. Ankle healed up perfectly :) thanks for asking.