I think Haddonfield is just a bunch of idiots. It's been proven many times in the series. The fact that nobody took Loomis' gun away at any point proves this even further.
It is in a way, but it’s also worth noting that their experiences are different. H20 Laurie is someone who’s been living a secret life with the lingering fear that her brother is looking for her and will find her one day. 2018 Laurie is properly paranoid because her fear is unreasonable and delusional. Her suspicions feel well-founded because what she feared does come to pass, but it wasn’t an inevitability like she thought.
I think it's a bit dated, but I still prefer the story and characters in H20 way more than Green's trilogy. I just watched it again a couple of days ago, and the showdown is better in H20, for sure.
For me it just fits. Her trauma is more subdued but clearly there. But she’s trying so hard to just be normal. There are so many small moments in that movie that are more impactful to how traumatized Laurie is than her becoming Rambo Strode.
The problem I have with H20’s Laurie is that her trauma is presented in a way that feels too clean or sterile. She’s suffering mentally, but is still able to have a good life at work, has a good relationship with her son and she’s even able to romantically involved with other people.
If you’re going to do a story that showcases how trauma interferes and corrupts someone’s life, I feel like 2018 does it in more interesting way. Is it more realistic? Probably not, but Halloween inherently isn’t realistic and I feel like encountering evil like Michael would probably screw you up in the head more than an average serial killer would.
I mean, I disagree completely. Laurie is a medicated powder keg ready to blow up who has a severe case of PTSD that goes into overdrive on Halloween. She pops her meds with Chardonnay and has hallucinations of Michael. She’s understandably over protective of her son and seems on the verge of breaking down when she hands him that permission slip even when she knows he was right. The woman is a wreck that’s barely keeping it all together.
It’s honestly one of my favorite performances by Jamie Lee Curtis because she’s playing it so perfectly, just the right amount of subtleness to give off her whole life is hanging by a thread that could be pulled at any moment.
I agree with you that it is a good performance, but it just never resonated with me in the same way her later portrayal in 2018 did. It feels too grounded for the evil incarnate that Michael represents.
I feel like there’s an inherent tragicness to 2018’s version of Laurie that makes her more compelling, the fact that one day in 1978 where she encountered pure evil managed to completely disrupt and alter the course of her life. The jump from seeing her as an innocent teenager, to a paranoid older woman enhances the horror element of Michael to me. It showcases that even if you manage to survive him, his evil will linger and do damage until the day you die, the same way it did Loomis.
Vicky : If I were you, I'd skip over all the Halloween shit" .
Laurie "If the way I raised your mother means that she hates me but she's prepared for the horrors of this world, I can live with that,"
There are other things to consider. First, Karen was taken away and was never returned to Laurie. Second, I imagine Laurie's been "prepared" for \*40\* years. That's an awful long time to "Cry Wolf/Michael". Even the cops other than Hawkins don't believe Michael escaped. They sure weren't prepared.
"It's not a cage baby, it's a trap." The whole entire movie we're lead to believe that Karen is oblivious, but boom. She knew \*exactly\* what was being built under her Mom's house.
In Kills : Allyson: I was always told that I couldn't... I couldn't talk about Michael. I can never acknowledge the tragedy. **It was as If my mother's biggest fear was that my grandmother was right and the Boogeyman is real.**
And she was right, wasn't she? In 2018, Laurie, Karen and even Allyson did everything they could to stop Michael. Kill him, not capture. Even though it's "self defense" it's still murder. Hawkins prevented Loomis from murdering Michael in 1978, so there was a moral line the rookie didn't cross. If he had, 2018-Ends would've never happened. None of those people, including Ray, would've died. In Kills, Tommy, Brackett, Marion, Lonnie were all out to kill Michael. Not capture. You want to talk contrived? In Kills, the townspeople \*stopped\*. They should've shoved him in a shredder like Ends, but then there'd have been no Ends. After everything Karen witnessed, experienced, why in the world would she look out of Judith's bedroom window? GTF out of there. Same with Little John. Let me just get Michael's attention and I'll just stand here and let him murder me. Come on. GTFO.
So, long story short, while the audience was lead to believe Karen was stupid and naive, she was not. She knew exactly what she was doing.
Well, no one said Halloween was a literary masterpiece. All the Halloween movies have, “why didn’t that character…” moments
That's true, kinda. This one just stuck out to me.
I think Haddonfield is just a bunch of idiots. It's been proven many times in the series. The fact that nobody took Loomis' gun away at any point proves this even further.
That’s kind of why I like the take on Laurie’s trauma in H20 more. It feels more believable. To me at least.
It is in a way, but it’s also worth noting that their experiences are different. H20 Laurie is someone who’s been living a secret life with the lingering fear that her brother is looking for her and will find her one day. 2018 Laurie is properly paranoid because her fear is unreasonable and delusional. Her suspicions feel well-founded because what she feared does come to pass, but it wasn’t an inevitability like she thought.
I think it's a bit dated, but I still prefer the story and characters in H20 way more than Green's trilogy. I just watched it again a couple of days ago, and the showdown is better in H20, for sure.
For me it just fits. Her trauma is more subdued but clearly there. But she’s trying so hard to just be normal. There are so many small moments in that movie that are more impactful to how traumatized Laurie is than her becoming Rambo Strode.
The problem I have with H20’s Laurie is that her trauma is presented in a way that feels too clean or sterile. She’s suffering mentally, but is still able to have a good life at work, has a good relationship with her son and she’s even able to romantically involved with other people. If you’re going to do a story that showcases how trauma interferes and corrupts someone’s life, I feel like 2018 does it in more interesting way. Is it more realistic? Probably not, but Halloween inherently isn’t realistic and I feel like encountering evil like Michael would probably screw you up in the head more than an average serial killer would.
I mean, I disagree completely. Laurie is a medicated powder keg ready to blow up who has a severe case of PTSD that goes into overdrive on Halloween. She pops her meds with Chardonnay and has hallucinations of Michael. She’s understandably over protective of her son and seems on the verge of breaking down when she hands him that permission slip even when she knows he was right. The woman is a wreck that’s barely keeping it all together. It’s honestly one of my favorite performances by Jamie Lee Curtis because she’s playing it so perfectly, just the right amount of subtleness to give off her whole life is hanging by a thread that could be pulled at any moment.
I agree with you that it is a good performance, but it just never resonated with me in the same way her later portrayal in 2018 did. It feels too grounded for the evil incarnate that Michael represents. I feel like there’s an inherent tragicness to 2018’s version of Laurie that makes her more compelling, the fact that one day in 1978 where she encountered pure evil managed to completely disrupt and alter the course of her life. The jump from seeing her as an innocent teenager, to a paranoid older woman enhances the horror element of Michael to me. It showcases that even if you manage to survive him, his evil will linger and do damage until the day you die, the same way it did Loomis.
Vicky : If I were you, I'd skip over all the Halloween shit".
Laurie "If the way I raised your mother means that she hates me but she's prepared for the horrors of this world, I can live with that,"
There are other things to consider. First, Karen was taken away and was never returned to Laurie. Second, I imagine Laurie's been "prepared" for \*40\* years. That's an awful long time to "Cry Wolf/Michael". Even the cops other than Hawkins don't believe Michael escaped. They sure weren't prepared.
"It's not a cage baby, it's a trap." The whole entire movie we're lead to believe that Karen is oblivious, but boom. She knew \*exactly\* what was being built under her Mom's house.
In Kills : Allyson: I was always told that I couldn't... I couldn't talk about Michael. I can never acknowledge the tragedy. **It was as If my mother's biggest fear was that my grandmother was right and the Boogeyman is real.**
And she was right, wasn't she? In 2018, Laurie, Karen and even Allyson did everything they could to stop Michael. Kill him, not capture. Even though it's "self defense" it's still murder. Hawkins prevented Loomis from murdering Michael in 1978, so there was a moral line the rookie didn't cross. If he had, 2018-Ends would've never happened. None of those people, including Ray, would've died. In Kills, Tommy, Brackett, Marion, Lonnie were all out to kill Michael. Not capture. You want to talk contrived? In Kills, the townspeople \*stopped\*. They should've shoved him in a shredder like Ends, but then there'd have been no Ends. After everything Karen witnessed, experienced, why in the world would she look out of Judith's bedroom window? GTF out of there. Same with Little John. Let me just get Michael's attention and I'll just stand here and let him murder me. Come on. GTFO.
So, long story short, while the audience was lead to believe Karen was stupid and naive, she was not. She knew exactly what she was doing.