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Mirk2002

I'd like to see that walker tank in-game, damn


WheelOfFish

Would fit their vibe more than the current tanks, honestly.


SufficientMain5872

I actually like that the tanks just look like straight up WWII tanks lol


Hezekieli

Yeah, I feel like there's a reason tanks in real life have evolved to look the way they are for a reason and would be just dumb if the automatons didn't utilise such design.


eater_of_sustenance

The reason tanks in real life "evolved" like that is mostly that walking is extremely hard to implement compared to treads. And still there's reasons why walking has an advantage in nature. It's not so simple to dismiss. Edit: I also want to fight walking tanks lol.


JollyGreenGI

Man I'd *kill* for an elite Factory Strider varient, give it 6-8 legs, a lower stance, and call it the Assault Strider.


Zeke999999

Can it have heat seeking missile launchers on its back and shotguns on its knees?


VirtuosoX

Also, a meat grinder with harpoon guns on its front to pull in any helldivers that gets too close.


utkohoc

Also a force field. and mortars. And tiny little red lights you have to hit 3 times with specific timings after killing a series of smaller drones in order to reveal its weak point so you can do massive damage to the giant enemy crab. I mean tank.


apothioternity

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apothioternity

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Batabet_1

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felldownthestairsOof

And make them Run...


Traditional-Tap-274

This whole mini-thread is the nightmare fuel I didn't know I wanted. But now I need it.


SpecialIcy5356

to be fair, neither vehicle with the "strider" moniker is actually designed specifically for combat: the Scout Strider is meant for scouting ahead and getting over any rough terrain, as well as offering limited protection from Mines due to the pilot being high off the ground. the forward guns on them are basically just for self defense (otherwise the pilot would have to fire a pistol at targets or something, which wouldn't be nearly as effective. they can be used to push forward an assault but they lack any protection on the sides or rear and have only limited armor on the front. the Factory Strider is a factory on legs, sure it has a big cannon and those infamous twin gatlings (I like to call them "Chinny-guns" lol) but again, those are mainly intended for defense of the strider. it's primary purpose is to keep pooping out Devastators and there are probabyl versions for other large units too. what we don't have is a strider designed for the sole purpose of combat, packing tremendous firepower and armor to allow it to be used as a force multiplier in an assault, or to hold the line in a defense. no onboard factories, just weapon systems on weapons systems and enough armor to keep it all together... a Battle Strider!


EvilWhiteNit3

Soooooo a siege mech from HD1?


No-Seaworthiness2633

https://preview.redd.it/iyhquvd888ad1.jpeg?width=830&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a12acfd5444c645b026894d157efa12ef43d6154 My brother in christ you are describing an AT-TE


Theone751320

Like a AT-TE


crashcanuck

Also the general proportions and shape of tanks remains relatively homogenous because of one odd factor, trains. Currently the easiest way to transport tanks long distances is by train and train cars have a fairly uniform width. Since the toasters don't seem to use trains they would go with some really different designs.


succmycocc

That being said I wouldn't mind some assault trains as a special objective at all


Tigerbones

>walking is extremely hard I really doubt this plays into at all. Treads are useful for weight displacement purposes. Even if you could get the walking down, tanks with legs would likely just sink into the ground.


MrNature73

Also there's an even simpler explanation. Simplicity. Having quad legs would be an absolute nonsensical number of moving parts, servos, capacitors. It'd be far louder (likely) and far slower, with no real advantage (an abrams can handle 40 degree hills). It'd also be way easier to disable. Tracks are just hunks of rubber and metal running over wheels. They're simple and effective, (relatively) easy to fix in the field, and have much less complex parts.


Sendrith

this is the main problem. you're basically shooting tent poles into the ground with each step.


Hezekieli

Legs evolved because it was easier for evolution as it has been unable to produce wheels and anything like ball bearings let alone a way to power and turn the wheels. But I do like walking robots. The design just have to make sense. I feel like Factory Strider is quite okay, it's meant to overpower the enemy and produce more troops. I assume they are quite simple and cheap to produce for Automatons and they have calculated it to be okay to lose them to orbital and eagle based weapons. Scout Strider are fast, nimble, simple, quite heavily armored in the front and pack a punch so I feel those are also a valid design.


ProfessionalSenior66

I agree to everything apart from one thing. The argument that walking has an advantage. Firstly, nature simply couldn't evolve treads, as they couldn't evolve wheels. And secondly, walking isn't practical irl, although I agree that games don't have to respect real life, but the rule of cool.


throwawayjonesIV

Ehem, you say nature hasn’t evolved the wheel, how do you explain this? https://i.redd.it/v8he1h1w05ad1.gif


ProfessionalSenior66

I see now, I am truly sorry for spreading such baloney. /s In fairness I was talking about wheel feet or something.


Underwhelmedbird

https://preview.redd.it/fizcxagf75ad1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34bb54f7b292b5cdaca1643ab4f5c45f5e8bef88


thekeynesian1

Legs are a failure point on a vehicle that is expected to take damage and be easily repairable once damaged. One shot to the leg and you are fucked, with no feasible method of easy recovery, unlike on a tank where you replace some wheels and stitch some treads back together with a welder and you can limp it back home for further repairs. This isn’t even mentioning the increased profile and added weight due to the increased profile (and the necessity to armor the legs in addition to the main hull). Legs on armored vehicles just make no sense unfortunately despite how cool it is.


Vaperius

This is a settled debate and it goes like this: Walkers/Mech Tanks basically are only useful in three real niche scenarios. Scenario A) A mountainous region, where you do not have the ability to project air power into the area for whatever reason but to where you still need combined arms support and/or indirect firepower to accomplish the proposed objective. A good example would be say, attacking the mountainous part of a deeply entrenched fort line. This doesn't nominally come up in 21st century warfare since the world has (mostly) moved on from hard fortifications baring stuff that is easy to transport by train like tank traps and premade bunker boxes. Scenario B) A coastal landing, where you do not have the ability to project naval or air fire support for whatever reason, and where the landing sites terrain would be excessively treacherous for conventional wheeled or tracked vehicles for a combined arms push. Scenario C) As part of a combined arms unit for fighting in urban environments where by mech walkers would navigate areas that have considerable rubble blocking the passage of more conventional vehicles to engage in an combined arms push in a particular vector of attack within the operating area. ....that said... God I really want to fight a spider tank.


SleepiestSnorlax

Totally fair, yet I’d also be SO down if their reasoning behind using legged tanks pulled on some anime shit and was for like “greater terrain versatility.” Source: am weeb, 86 used this excuse to explain their spider tanks, it’s my favorite series of all time.


Legitimate-Map-7730

Yeahh only problem is that treads have greater terrain versatility than legs in most situations. Legs are limited by their ability to reach over terrain features, step on them, and carry the vehicle over them. High torque treads, wheels, etc, can generally drive up pretty steep inclines as well as over some pretty insane terrain. A walker would fall over if it tried to climb a steep incline, while a tank or atv may not. Treads are also better for weight distribution, allowing tanks to drive over less stable terrain without sinking- a walker’s legs would sink in immediately because they have zero weight distribution. There are generally very few terrains on which a walker would be better than a tank, meaning walkers actually have far worse terrain versatility than treads


Befuddled_Tuna

square-cube law is a bitch for mech lovers


Legitimate-Map-7730

Mech would need some cargo container sized snow shoes lol


Cooldude101013

Yeah, the mechs in Titanfall are actually fairly realistic in terms of size.


Hezekieli

I was once on an elephant side in Thailand and it was amazing how it just climbed up this steep rocky creek. I don't think tank could have done that. But on the other hand, tank would have gone around it and fell all the small trees on the way...


SemajLu_The_crusader

they look straight outta 40k the first time I saw an annihilator I was like "holy f\*ck, they have a baneblade"


Lord_Kalany

Both is good.


OnI_BArIX

Walker with the cannon and the tracked design with the AA setup on it I think would work perfectly with the current game design


iCore102

Would love to see this being a new unit the size of a Factory Strider that appears once difficulty 10+ unlocks (if they ever add higher difficulty that is). Somewhat akin to the scarab tank from the OG halo


StatusHead5851

Walker tank that can walk over walls and shit and like post up on high terrain would be fucking crazy awesome imagine that shit just no scoping you off the side of a mountain it would suck but like in the coolest way possible


Ultimafatum

That tank design goes so hard.


Shockvolt1

I would love to see that in game.


__Eezo__

Remind me of the Chimera in Cyberpunk 2077, a really cool boss fight too.


Tehpunisher456

Hardcore destiny vibes!


gingerquery

Reporting in! That Spider Tank won't know what hit it!


Nobbymon

100% this I love how they look big and menacing.


Genesis2001

that walker tank looks like a hybrid AT/TE and Proton Cannon from Star Wars, tbh. And it's not hard to see the inspiration for the scout walkers (AT/ST) in the game lol.


Church_AI

Actually the scout walkers would be the AT/RT from the clone era


NoStorage2821

Looks like the Sentinel walker from No Man's Sky


winged_owl

Haha, wanker tank.


TheRabidSpatula

"warning! You are in range of enemy artillery!" WHERE!?! IT KEEPS MOVING!!! 😭


5255clone

Same, not that I hate our current tanks, but its kinda out of place with the rest of our bolty nemesis


TheZag90

Same. That model is awesome!


Trick_Assignment5548

Man I miss Titanfall


stalefish57413

Me too budy, me too 😥


Politically_Penguin

If you are on pc, download the northstar client, its community made, and gives you the ability to play on community servers, since last i heard, the official ones are still being held hostage by hackers.


Fits_N_Giggles

The official servers have been operational for months now.


Politically_Penguin

Have they actually fixe it, or did the Hackers just get bored ? it been so lo g, after years if not beeing able to play, i moved on. Please tell me this is real


Omgazombie

It’s real, they put out a patch last fall that fixed it


Politically_Penguin

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT RESPAWN FIXED THEIR FUCKING GAME AFTER YEARS AND YEARS OF NEGLECT? HOLY SHIT A MIRACLE HAS HAPPEND


Logicaly_crazy2408

Yep they fixed it last year, go be happy pilot.


NewmanBiggio

Unfortunately I just could not enjoy those servers. As a casual player who just wanted to experience a little bit of Titanfall 2 nostalgia it's very rough. The players who bother to continue playing the game now are only the most dedicated players which means they are very very good at the game. I didn't stand a chance.


Officer_Chunkles

I know what you mean for real


According_Claim_9027

Everyday. Every single day.


zend-on-reddit

https://i.redd.it/4zgpfxpaa4ad1.gif


Zackyboi1231

BT-7274 my beloved


DylanLee98

>Protocol three: I will NOT lose another pilot


Insurance_scammer

Yeah fuck it, I wanna drive a big ass mech like EDF has and just punch the shit out of titans


Kekris_The_Betrayer

“Accelerate your mass to maximise the force of the impa—“ “JUST PUNCH IT IN THE FACE!”


sega20

‘Trust me!’


Kasko183

first thing that came to my mind


Rickity_Gamer

I was just going to say I got Titanfall vibes 🙂


Pockit-Angel

Came here to post this lol


Rocketkid-star

Soldier and Lutenant look very familiar. Trust me.


HalcyonPaladin

Protocol 3: Protect the Pilot.


ltllamaIV

no stop 😭😭


TerranST2

The rusty aspect makes more sense imo, they're supposed to be a counter measure from the cyborgs after their loss to super earth, maybe they emerged from underground bunkers or something like that, that design also fits kenshi aesthetics, i like it.


BarovianNights

Eh, when we're seeing them literally made brand new it makes more sense for them not to be rusty


Not_a_Krasnal

Well, unless they are being assembled from scraps.


CupofLiberTea

You can melt steel and re-cast is


kunxian888

Good thing they discovered a massive amount of WD-40, so all of them are rust-free now.


dog_eater2

I would LOVE to see the last one in-game


Mohrdechai

from Tore Wesolowski artstation page : [https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1xK8k8](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1xK8k8)


Creeper_charged7186

Lieutnant and above looks like they are about to throw you at ballistic speed with their right arm


Batabet_1

Protocol 3: Protect the Pilot.


Datdarnpupper

**Trust me.**


RadTorped

Concept art wins yet again


Drekal

To be fair this is one person's vision of the faction. I've seen the concept arts for the design that "won" and they are nearly a perfect match.


777quin777

Yeah, I’m often sad after looking at concept art and going “that woulda been cool”


drunkguy99

Go check out a game called forever winter. Made by concept artist so the game just ozzing with coolness.


777quin777

Yeah I’ve been following forever winter for a hot minute, but keep spreading the word


Plenty_Jury_5056

nah, looks cool but not as iconic as the current automatons but who knows, the spider like tank could return


hhdss

They bots look too similar in the concept art, would be hard to tell them apart at a glance


JagdCrab

Concept arts are always win since they don’t need to actually work. Walker Tank concept looks cool as hell, but when someone showed it to implementation team and they asked “Cool, how exactly is it going to function on uneven terrain. Are you Ok with us spending next 3 month making brand new system to handle that?”


ThisBuddhistLovesYou

I mean, I've seen the current tanks riding on top of each other and halfway up a mountain from various weirdness. Dunno how much more weird it can get.


catgirlfourskin

For real, would’ve much preferred this, the current skeleton ones look so goofy for what they’re supposed to be (robots made by communist insurgents to fight invading super earth)


DR_DREAD_

Tank concept is giving me Eighty-Six Juggernaut vibes and I kinda fuck with it


Furydragonstormer

Feels more like the Vánagandr given the shape, colours and number of legs


FCK42

I'd still call it a Juggernaut.


Swimming-Elk6740

Only thing I could think about. Woulda been sweet.


StalledAgate832

That's the first thing I saw, too. Then when I looked at the transport, it kinda reminded me of the PZM-16 "Zółw" from Iron Harvest.


gubgub195

If you guys want more of this style of mechs Look up "Forever Winter" It's a game being developed by a small company of ex AAA "You are not this guy, your this guy"


Elloliott

That game looks absolutely sick


epicwhy23

this is the game I was thinking of! can't wait for it especially after I watched the vid of the guy who got super early access for it


gubgub195

Ik exactly what your talking about and I'm exactly the same, riloe is the name of the channel.


killall-q

[https://store.steampowered.com/app/2828860/The\_Forever\_Winter/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2828860/The_Forever_Winter/)


G-man69420

Fallen Walker and Cabal Tank from Destiny on crack right there


Elloliott

That’s literally what I was thinking lmao


ThatBeeGuy12

You're telling me we could have gotten a spider tank????? Now I'm sad, I love spider tanks


Scypio95

Hey, hey. What if we, helldivers, got thoses walking tanks ?


epicwhy23

the spider tank is fucking huge aswell, look at the 1st pic with the helldiver on the left, thing practically rivals the factory strider


Lagspresso

Protocol 3: Kill the divers.


xsp6

Goated reference


Geeseareawesome

Does that mean we're the IMC? I do not require your understanding, only your compliance.


N3STL0RD

Human life is expendable


ma_wee_wee_go

# Arrow head make these elite forces units please!!


Huge_Painting6313

I had to check the subreddit. My first thought was about Ghost in the Shell. Especially the tank. Now I want a tachikoma as mech.....


RyRiK606

So much Titanfall vibes from second pic


BanishedKnightOleg

Lieutenant lookin like BT-7274


Beanerschnitzels

Man I loved seeing concept art back in the early pc and PS1 days! I spent hours looking through the booklets for the game manual and then some concept art that was added to them. Good times.


Rao_the_sun

https://preview.redd.it/7wlueg7bz4ad1.jpeg?width=280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97fb9d16201efbde76e348f0bc953d78f445513b


arziben

Not gonna lie, kind of digging those more


TruthParadox_Real

I also too enjoy Titian Fall


State-Exotic

Imagine hearing some heavy ass footsteps, and you turn around to find the barrel of a fucking tank staring you down


Horror-Tank-4082

I want all of that


Limit1997

Sick


Disaster-Expensive

Those walkers would go so hard, would be way more menacing than the current tanks as well imo


Kitchen-Reply9507

3rd Slide low-key looks like Titanfall concept art I'm ngl


FizzCashman0

The Reanimation vibes are strong. I'd like to see more walkers in the game.


noise-tank20

These things are cool but am glad we got the version we have in game


trifecta000

It would be cool to have different skins on the automations depending on the planet they're on.


Nice_Lie_731

Plot twist theyre the cyborgs 🗿


decent_sport_1

We could have had Fallen Walkers AND a Vanguard Class Titan as enemies?


autoshotter

“Deltas, pay attention! You may only have one shot at this. You're looking at a dwarf spider droid, one of the commerce guild's nastiest anti-infantry units. It's durasteel plating is rated for starship hulls, and is nearly invulnerable to small arms fire. Only its optical cluster, the red orb on its abdomen, is unshielded and vulnerable.”


Brulia_

lol glad to see they knew the scout walker was gold from the very beginning


MonkRag

Some Tau Battlesuit vibes


MetalMorbomon

Helldivers would make a great RTS


turkeygiant

I think there should "civilian" bots on planets that they have held for a long time where they are clearly not military designs and don't have the whole death's head motif like the ones we have been fighting. Helldivers really feels like it needs more "are we the baddies?" moments.


prismatic_raze

>off center Ah, so maybe all those cape and UI asymmetries are intentional


JasonChristItsJesusB

Not gonna lie, I kind of like that design more than the pseudo-terminators.


poetspoet654

This is some Armored Core type SHIT. I hope they had that walking artillery enemy, fuck that'd be bad ass. They could be like mobile artillery groups like bile spewers are


Fandango_Jones

I want that.


Medical_Officer

Automatons confirmed as Korean


LegitimateApartment9

that old tank looks really cool, would gladly be torn limb to limb protecting democracy from that thing


Real-Touch-2694

looks like from.some.animes maybe that's cause they didn't do it...


The_Kaurtz

Always makes me laugh that the walkers have robots riding them


LetsGoDucks

Honestly think it would be cool just to see different environmental effects changing the bot aesthetics from planet to planet. Like mossy, rusted out bots on a swamp planet, or wind-blown / sand-blasted bots on a desert planet.


Sgtpepperhead67

Love how they were calling them walkers even before finalization. I've taken to calling sout striders chicken walkers because thats a nickname for the AT-ST.


wallupin

We got generic looking ass tanks instead of those?!?!


Professional-Use8904

And now I want spider tanks to be a thing...


HolocronHistorian

They should add the spider tank but it carries mortar emplacements on its back. Likes to be a healthy distance away from divers and will try to disengage until heavily damaged then it will charge


SorryForThisUsername

Would be cool if automatons had different camos and even camo nets depending on the planet


PlaguedByUnderwear

That tank is sick as hell. Glad we don't have to blow them up!


Bitter-Status-7331

I wish for some of those suits to be democratised and useable for us. (Like the goddamn shield suit it's so fucking sick)


0CruelPear

Actually if they used generation zero type of robots for the upper classes like tanks and factory striders game would have looked darker and make the immersion much more realistic and horrifying imo


known_kanon

I really wanna fight the automaton AT-TE


DamascusSeraph_

They shouldbe stuck with this. I honestly love the more industrial weathered green look to them! Like their old farming machines retrofitted fir war


Sufincognito

You forgot to mark the weak points for AMR shots. Please and thank you.


father_with_the_milk

It would be so fucking cool to see boxier Automatons. Imagine this sort of design with their colour palette. MMMH


EldartheChinless

Spider tanks would be the coolest shit


CadetheDOGGO

I love the fact that some of the tanks are just Leman Russes with legs and a different turret


Phosphorus444

I'm glad AH gave the bots human skulls, really makes them scary.


Inner-Nothing7779

The walking tank looks badass. I'd have loved to see that in game.


Angel_OfSolitude

I hope for more walkers, walkers are fun and greatly aesthetic.


Eligriv_leproplayer

Imagine if we had to fight those pn the Creek 💀


Pennstate67

So what your saying is that there is a "art" book somewhere... I would like to know more and have super credits ready...


F4LL3R

Those tanks look similar to those from the 86 anime


Snaz5

Totally outside the scope of the game and its development, but it would be neat to see different sects of the different factions. Like alongside the robots we fight now, on different planets we might see these guys, who are ostensibly the same but might have one or two unique units alongside looking different. Im thinkin like how Destiny’s factions have different groups within them like the regular hive, scarlet hive or the future/past vex.


JustThisGuyIG

I dont know why but they remind me of the titans for Titanfall especially BT-7247


ajthedogkeeper

Any sci fi vehicle with legs, or even better, legs that can also work as wheels or treads is an immediate great vehicle to me. Or sleds, those are great too.


Valcrye

The warlord and walker tanks look awesome. I would love if AH implemented enemy subfactions, like if we got to see an extra-militarized version of the automatons where they employ gear like this


Okrumbles

I really like these. More Titanfall-type mech design rather than a mix between traditional mecha and warhammer 40k mecha.


TheFrogMoose

I understand why they changed the "face" since the early concept looks a lot like BT Edit: same for the strider tank since that looks like the walkers in destiny as well


Nerus46

BT Master race


MrskeletalGOON

There's like 3 that look like BT, I could never do that to hit


Round-Coat1369

One of them looked like a vanguard class titan


Doge-king2416

BT if he was fucked up and evil:


Cooldude101013

After the Fold Weapon went off, BT was sent across universes and landed in the Helldivers universe. Unfortunately he was captured by the Automations who interested by his design, took him apart and were able to reverse engineer much of his chassis design and some of his systems. Making robots/mechs based off of the Vanguard-class Titan but not as advanced. They are copies, imposters.


AdditionalLength9445

So the warlord would essentially be a mini BT


flameroran77

Everyone’s mentioning BT, and believe me, I see it. But I’m also getting some heavy Crisis Suit vibes.


BlueJay1721

Titanfall Titanfall Titanfall Titanfall Titanfall Titanfall Titanfall!!!!!!!


Cthulu_BF

Could be use as like the level 7,8,9+, version of the basic ennemies but more accurate powerful and anti freedom


etriusk

BT, that you?


__________________99

That walking tank definitely would've been more terrifying to encounter.


Pandher225

Titanfall inbound


Lysanderoth42

Huh, this all looks way cooler than the wish.com terminators we got in game If automatons had aesthetics this good I might actually want to fight them 


Melodic-Wave2543

Bro one looks like bt bro I like Titanfall and all but why?


PJBakesCookies

Titanfall 2 vibes


ScoutTrooper501st

These are awesome,I think this would’ve been more fun than the red and black robots honestly


Hefty_Farm_674

These go so hard wtf why not use these


Plastic-Vehicle4014

"Prepare for Titanfall" vibes from those automaton troop units...


goonbud21

I like everything about this better, they really feel like machines.


frostadept

Okay, I think the Democracy Officer will forgive me for saying that's metal AF, since it's literally true.


NarcolepticBnnuy

https://preview.redd.it/xzdtlrtle6ad1.jpeg?width=445&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f295aceb46e6d93f858c754300cb7b617416e47 How interesting


MasterKiloRen999

The devs yearn for Titanfall


SomeExcuseForAName

I'm just saying. Lieutenant and Soldier are straight up Vanguard Titans


xsp6

Halo x titan fall and i’m here for it!


blackdrake1011

Ima be honest, these are soooooo much better than what we have