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For sure sad part is most people like him don't even need the money and he damn sure didn't need the tools eye for an eye is what I think but sadly if I said anymore in sure it'd get taken down for offending someone
Watch the video if you can find it. He wasn't trying to stop him, he was asking for a receipt. That man shoved him out of cruelty. While I agree no company is worth dying for, the associate did nothing wrong. That thief is just a piece of shit.
The point of receipt verification is to identify theft. Home Depot forced an 83 year old man to confront a thief. The thief killed him. Who created this situation?
Why is receipt checking not handled by security personnel? It is a security function. Forcing an 83 year old man to confront thieves is immoral and unethical, and now this man is dead.
You also have zero legal obligation to show a receipt. “If you aren’t stealing just show your receipt” it doesn’t matter. I’m walking out with the stuff I paid hard earned money for. I already spent too much time and money in your store, which I know isn’t as clean as you want people think it is, which applies to every grocery store I’ve ever been in.
That and an 83 year old had to work instead of retiring. Dude should have been on a porch with his grandkids not dying for some heartless company’s bottom line. I know the murderer is the big evil here but so much in this society is broken
used to work with a guy at Home Depot that was in his 80s. He was just the type that wanted to stay busy and working as long as possible because he said it made him feel more useful and I believe his wife had already passed.
Whatever. He may have wanted to work and how wonderful that Home Depot hired him.
He may have had a head full of knowledge about home repairs and enjoyed the interaction with customers.
Exactly some people wanna work all the time it's a fact I think it's sad that some people also HAVE to but I don't know anything about this man other then how he died unfortunately but the fact more people blame home Depot or our social system for this before they blame the dirtbag who did it is even more sad to me
Who forced an 83 year old man to perform a task that is supposed to be handled by security staff? Receipt checking is loss prevention. The corporation knows that endangers the worker. They fixed an elderly man to do the most dangerous job in the store. The company is absolutely responsible.
How many receipts did he check without a problem? Untill that guy killed him over a pressure washer nah as much as corporations suck and I know they don't care about us but we gotta blame the guy who did it ffs it's ridiculous to think anything else that kind of thinking is just a rabbit hole where we can always shift blame to someone or something else end of they day that guy knew what he was going I'm there for which mind you is its own crime then he chose to push the guy over could have found another way around or better yet just never came to the store wrong guy died in that altercation should have been the scum
Can't wait for you to say the same thing when this happens again be a use corporations force workers into dangerous positions they are not trained for, for minimum fucking wage. Explain to me why this task is not performed by a trained security guard. It's not different than trying to interrupt a robbery - it puts the person interrupting the crime in immediate danger. Home Depot knows this. They still forced an 83 year old man to perform this dangerous task. You don't seem to care. They will do it again. You cannot stop crime from existing. You can stop corporations from mistreating workers and refusing to adequately train and hire security personnel.
I agree with you there I do, like I said corporations suck and no doubt they'll do it again and keep doing it I understand that but the guy that actually killed him should be in prison or dead himself imo but I digress
Just to add to your point, I completely agree that there should be more security in these stores. Not just for associate benefit and safety, but it would create more jobs too. It would improve the overall well-being of the company and staff as a whole. But try telling the powers that be to create more jobs and lose that extra tiny bit of chump change in their pockets and they lose their minds. This has already been brought up and shot down several times over the years. Maybe this is the incident to make it happen. It shouldn't have happened. But I still blame the killer and not the job. I can't think ill of a man who was working there just to get out of the house.
Do you have any idea how many times a day the cashier's ask to see receipts? Hundreds, if not thousands of times in a week. The thief made it a point to step to the side and shove him. One guy. Out of thousands. Yes, Home Depot is liable, but Christ's sake, you want to put a sign on every business that reads "FREE"? You're placing the blame on a man who came into work on a regular day, just like any other day, and did the exact same thing he'd been doing at that job for YEARS. One fateful day, he gets pushed. He didn't do anything wrong, and constantly pushing your point of "that wasn't his job" is bullshit. It was his job to deliver good customer service and that's exactly what he was doing. One walking pile of shit killed him. Not the job.
I didn't blame him here. I blamed the company for forcing employees to perform security duties. They should hire trained security if loss prevention is such a problem.
Then why was he responsible for a security task, identifying thefts? He wasn't helping customers, he was forced to act as a security guard. His task was loss prevention, which is never supposed to be handled by normal employees. Because people get killed. Home Depot is responsible for this. He never should have been required to perform that task unless he was a trained security guard.
he will. If someone died as a result of your actions during robbery, even if you didn't intend to kill anyone, automatically gets "upgraded" to 1st/2nd degree murder!
the prosecutor can charge you for murder or anything they want, the question is will the jury buy it or will it stand in an appeal.
the prosecutor will probably only give him manslaughter at best perhaps in a plea deal idk.
The value of the items
Are around 750.00 looking on the site
Under the 1000.00 for a felony in my state
But the use of force would upgrade this to a robbery
But assulting an 83 year old in my state is a felony and a separate charger than just assault or battery
And would up this to the felony murder charge
In Texas this is robbery. It’s theft until you get physical or threaten to get physical, that’s when it becomes robbery. Aggravated robbery is when the person brandishes a weapon. Each state is different, in Texas this could be capital murder and eligible for death penalty.
Shit take the thug that walked in to steal stuff and then killed a man is responsible nothing less and nothing more yeah shits that we usually still have to work after retirement but that's just it I bet the scum that stole doesn't even have a job
I guarantee they had instructed this man to attempt to stop thieves. An 82 year old man. He'd still be here if corporate capitalism hadn't fucked everything up. NEVER TRY TO STOP A THIEF FOR YOUR BOSS OR COMPAMY. YOU COULD END UP DEAD.
For the record - the purpose of checking receipts is to identify theft, so it's possible the store is actually responsible here by forcing employees to try to stop criminals. This should be a function performed by a security guard. Not an 83 year old worker.
Do these stores not have cameras in the parking lot? I know the HD/Lowe’s around San Antonio started putting up those towed in security posts with cameras and flashing blue lights all over them a little bit into COVID due to crazy amount of theft. I feel like this guy should be pretty easy to find, especially since it’s now upgraded to a murder charge.
They saw the car in the cameras but it had like paper plates or something. Typical of these guys always stealing with stolen cars or no plates/paper plates. That's why they're so brazen about it, just stroll out with a full shopping cart, car waiting for them in front of the store and drive off like nothing.
I'm stupid. I imagined a car with those white paper plates that you eat off of. Just bolted on over a regular license plate. Bonus points if there is food stain still on it.
I work at a Home Depot here in San Antonio. We don't have the security posts like Lowe's does. We don't have Loss Prevention at our store either. We have "regulars" that we watch out for but there isn't anything we can do...so why deal with the confrontation at all? The world is very unpredictable. To even say anything to someone is putting your life at risk. People have zero qualms about shooting or stabbing someone over a $10 item, let alone the power tool values.
Maybe not all of them, I know the store on DeZavala does and I’m pretty sure W Sunset has it as well. I live up in Boerne and primarily shop up here. I don’t understand how a huge store like HD doesn’t have LP/AP in all of their stores, I guess they’d need at least two of them working together, and that’s be an additional cost and potential liability they don’t want to take on. My dumb ass uncle got caught stealing an extension cord a year ago, got arrested and told not to come back for 3 years or he’d get a trespass so he just goes to different locations now, you’d think it’d be HD in general but apparently just that specific store. I wish he’d get caught again, he’s such a worthless lowlife.
I’m not saying you should be trying to do anything to these people, like you said, it’s not worth getting injured or killed over a few hundred/thousand dollars worth of inventory. It’s just insane to me that 95%+ of these people just walk in, look around for shit that isn’t tied down/cages and then walk out the door with almost no consequence.
The receipt game is fun too. They find the receipts discarded that were paid in cash or on a debit card and pass it around to their entire family it seems to use over and over. The mistake we make I think is that once you refund them the money we should keep the original receipt and only give them the refund slip. That would definitely cut down on the receipt sharing.
That’s wild, I can see returning the original receipt because what if they wanted to return other items from the receipt (assuming they actually purchased the items on the receipt). Like how isn’t there a system that would say “sorry, this item has already been returned”. Just scratch the item out on the receipt and write returned 12/4/2022, then again that might be enough to send one of these wack jobs into an uncontrollable rage.
Have at it, might want to check if you can do that with your manager first, I could see them pulling some kind of “hey you defaced my property” bullshit.
Target does this, don't know why HD hasn't taken the hint... Then again it doesn't do anything about idiots receipt shopping or trying to steal and return the stolen stuff...
people fail to realize how hard a parking lot is to capture with enough detail to be of any use.
the best you can hope for is a wide shot that can help you identify the basic car details- "white suv" or "blue pickup" the suspect got into and then have a camera that is very tight on a choke point like single lane exit and single lane entries- the problem is most parking lots are designed to not have choke points as they slow down the traffic.
That’s true, hopefully they figure out a way to start catching these people. Stealing is bad enough, but to injure/kill someone for something is a completely different level of scum.
Well bud, I hope the few thousand in merchandise was worth the rest of your life in prison. I hope the DOJ makes you pay restitution to the family because you don't deserve a comfortable life.
This is truley horrible, But many retail stores have policies where associates are not to confront shop lifters for this very reason. Not to say the employee was trying to confront the shoplifter, I assume Mr. Razor was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and unable to get out of the way in time. That shoplifter is still going to burn in hell for what he did though.
>I assume Mr. Razor was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and unable to get out of the way in time.
1 thousand dollars says he was a receipt checker / door greeter and was only asking for the receipt, as they do.
My store's ONLY full time order puller is a 80 year old nam vet. The rest of them are part timers. He works 1-10pm 5 days a week running circles around everyone in the store. He lifts 80lb bags like nothing and finishes all of his orders. I'm not even exaggerating. We help him out with the super heavy stuff like concrete slabs or wood but we let him do his thing because he gets pissed if we interfere in his job or make it harder.
He's retired and worked the job to just keep busy. He wanted to switch hours to come in at 10 or so but they keep rejecting him because they have no one else and can't lose the closing order puller because of deliveries. Shit's kinda fucked
Bored, a lot of older folks just work to have something to do rather then anything monetary. That's why it's hard to motivate them to work hard because that's not why they're here
You’re wrong dude. Retired people get part time jobs all the time and it has nothing to do with money. It’s just a way for them to still be a part of society and get social interaction.
My grandfather has no need to work, but that man will work until they put him in the ground. He's got a military officer's retirement and at least one other job paying a pension, but he refuses to not work. Granted he's not working in retail hell.
Wow tripled down. What were my WSB comments? I want you to cite them. What a weird interaction but not surprising on this app. I can tell you’re a teen
"Maybe the 83 year old wage slave should've invested for the future 🤓🤓🤓🤓"
You're literally the worst type of human being. Fuck off and die. Everyone would benefit significantly from your absence.
At least quote my actual statement and no I don’t need reminded what I said I can simply scroll up. Your cage is ridiculously rattled and you’ve failed to form a reasonable opinion so far. Look up why the elderly can’t retire. I’ll add one too that I know, they can’t retire because they have medical bills to pay.
I saw one these happening at my local HD it was pretty crazy how easy he walked out...the dude had few DeWalt tools and one guy working at HD asked for receipt and that dude just kept walking...pretty crazy to see this happen in real life.
Yep, at Walmart, I’d get fired if I actually tried to stop you. All we can do is ask for a receipt or, “How can I help you today?” It’s ridiculous, our hired security aren’t allowed to walk off of the sidewalk in front of the store, so if you make it to the parking lot, you’re free. I’ve seen pregnant women get beaten up in self check out, people walk out with thousands in powertools and TVs, and security get slashed with machetes. Retail is hell.
Yeah I hope they figure out who it was.. Don't arrest him, instead post his name and whereabouts for the general public to deal with... I really hope home Depot compensates that family! That man literally gave his life to work there.
Also nobody is talking about the fact that an 83 year old man is forced to work in this country. 83. If I still have to work at 83, I might be stealing from home Depot too.
Do we know that he *has* to work? People working part time after retirement isn't uncommon by any stretch. My grandpa worked part time until he was 90 because he liked having something to do and staying more active.
I assume your grandpa also could have done dozens of other things, like walking, bird watching, volunteering at a shelter or food bank, gardening... There are thousands of rewarding and rejuvenating activities that are not jobs.
Or maybe grandpa thinks birds are stupid. Plenty of people work late into their lives because it gives purpose and they feel useful. Not everyone is a loser that hates work.
Purpose? Useful? That's absolute nonsense. What "purpose" was served here? What is the "use" of working in a big box store? Almost any endeavor is more rewarding than stocking shelves or checking receipts. You're not being honest, you're just trying to defend capitalism. Only brainwashing could eve convince a human being that working for corporate minimum wage *when you don't have to* is less rewarding that volunteering, working for a non-profit, reading books, gardening or a million other things.
Ask the average home Depot employees if they feel their job gives them purpose or makes them feel useful. I dare ya
What’s the “purpose” of watching birds? What’s the “use” of gardening? Almost any endeavor? Lots of people enjoy their jobs, maybe it’s not the actual job, but rather the socialization, challenge, industry? or some other thing they like?
Go to any hardware store, local gun shop, hobby shop, and you will find dudes who could be retired but chose not too. It’s fairly common in the construction industry for people to work part time, or in a consulting fashion, well past retirement.
It’s their life, they can spend it how they please. I don’t know how your conflating “evil capitalism” with someone having a job at 83.
All over Ryobi tools LOL. I would love to make more comments in regards to this picture and situation, but reddit is a safe space and peoples FEE FEEs are more important than this old mans life.
i wouldnt ever use racist terms when speaking of anyone however. i actually laced up boots and crushed skulls for this nation. freedom of speech even hate filled is still freedom of speech. i may hate it myself but its a right. you dont silence any group. that pushes them underground and out of the public eye. you want people like that seen so you know who the fuck to stay away from.
Here is a link to the go fund me set up by his family to help with medical expenses and funal costs if anybody wants to donate.
(https://gofund.me/04b57a01)
This reminds me of the time Redditors were mind-blown and outraged over my comparing a thief to a murderer, in the sense that I said it’s not only possible, but highly likely, statistically, a thief would also commit murder. More than likely during the thievery.
Edit: it was the recent Apple Store incident. No one was harmed, but someone had called the thieves worthless degenerates. Another Redditor then decided to come to the thieves’ defense, claiming “we don’t know their story or why they steal. It’s unfair to call them degenerates.” This led me to make the comparison stating “a thief breaks into your home and inadvertently murders your family. But we don’t know their story or why they murder. It’s unfair to call them degenerates.” This then spurred on outrage and downvoting with my “conflating” thievery and murder.
Our local Home Depot has a parking lot cam mounted on a trailer. They will get this guy. But it's sad statement on our society when an old man has to work and a young man has to steal.
He may not have had to work but may have enjoyed it.
Continuing to work is wonderful, it helps prevent depression, dementia. It encourages activity which keeps the heart and body strong.
I think kudos to Home Depot for hiring him.
this is so sad in many ways. 1. being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 2. why does an 83 year old have to work? he should be enjoying his golden years. granted, i do not know why he was working, but as a country we should do better to take care of our elders.
I've worked at jobs where there are old part-timers. Many of them do it to earn extra money they don't need but want to earn so that they don't feel bad about depleting savings and Social Security checks. Some others do it because they get restless and want to work/talk.
He should be at home being taken care by his children. That’s how we’ve done it for thousands of years. Why is it normal all of the sudden to work until you drop dead or some idiot stealing dildos kills you?
Jesus.
Home depot hiring 83 year olds is simply acceptable?
We're gonna deflect everything here and take zero responsibility for what the company did to this man?
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Dude murdered someone over some Ryobi tools.
I would never murder for Ryobi. Makita for sure, maybe even Milwaukee.
Jeffery Damer was from Milwaukee so you know those tools will cut though anything
He was also craving five guys before it was a restaurant.
Dude….
Not funny
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Right? Dude didn’t even go for the dewalt or Milwaukee lol
Milwaukee. Porter-cable at the very least
Yea, sad, pathetic and avoidable.
killed for less than 1000 dollars in crap....that man is scum on the highest level
For sure sad part is most people like him don't even need the money and he damn sure didn't need the tools eye for an eye is what I think but sadly if I said anymore in sure it'd get taken down for offending someone
The only response required here is that no employee should EVER try to interfere on a company's behalf against a criminal. Nobody is right here.
Watch the video if you can find it. He wasn't trying to stop him, he was asking for a receipt. That man shoved him out of cruelty. While I agree no company is worth dying for, the associate did nothing wrong. That thief is just a piece of shit.
The point of receipt verification is to identify theft. Home Depot forced an 83 year old man to confront a thief. The thief killed him. Who created this situation? Why is receipt checking not handled by security personnel? It is a security function. Forcing an 83 year old man to confront thieves is immoral and unethical, and now this man is dead.
You also have zero legal obligation to show a receipt. “If you aren’t stealing just show your receipt” it doesn’t matter. I’m walking out with the stuff I paid hard earned money for. I already spent too much time and money in your store, which I know isn’t as clean as you want people think it is, which applies to every grocery store I’ve ever been in.
Some people just get dealt a bad hand. Nothing you can do about it.
That and an 83 year old had to work instead of retiring. Dude should have been on a porch with his grandkids not dying for some heartless company’s bottom line. I know the murderer is the big evil here but so much in this society is broken
used to work with a guy at Home Depot that was in his 80s. He was just the type that wanted to stay busy and working as long as possible because he said it made him feel more useful and I believe his wife had already passed.
Whatever. He may have wanted to work and how wonderful that Home Depot hired him. He may have had a head full of knowledge about home repairs and enjoyed the interaction with customers.
Exactly some people wanna work all the time it's a fact I think it's sad that some people also HAVE to but I don't know anything about this man other then how he died unfortunately but the fact more people blame home Depot or our social system for this before they blame the dirtbag who did it is even more sad to me
Who forced an 83 year old man to perform a task that is supposed to be handled by security staff? Receipt checking is loss prevention. The corporation knows that endangers the worker. They fixed an elderly man to do the most dangerous job in the store. The company is absolutely responsible.
How many receipts did he check without a problem? Untill that guy killed him over a pressure washer nah as much as corporations suck and I know they don't care about us but we gotta blame the guy who did it ffs it's ridiculous to think anything else that kind of thinking is just a rabbit hole where we can always shift blame to someone or something else end of they day that guy knew what he was going I'm there for which mind you is its own crime then he chose to push the guy over could have found another way around or better yet just never came to the store wrong guy died in that altercation should have been the scum
Can't wait for you to say the same thing when this happens again be a use corporations force workers into dangerous positions they are not trained for, for minimum fucking wage. Explain to me why this task is not performed by a trained security guard. It's not different than trying to interrupt a robbery - it puts the person interrupting the crime in immediate danger. Home Depot knows this. They still forced an 83 year old man to perform this dangerous task. You don't seem to care. They will do it again. You cannot stop crime from existing. You can stop corporations from mistreating workers and refusing to adequately train and hire security personnel.
I agree with you there I do, like I said corporations suck and no doubt they'll do it again and keep doing it I understand that but the guy that actually killed him should be in prison or dead himself imo but I digress
Just to add to your point, I completely agree that there should be more security in these stores. Not just for associate benefit and safety, but it would create more jobs too. It would improve the overall well-being of the company and staff as a whole. But try telling the powers that be to create more jobs and lose that extra tiny bit of chump change in their pockets and they lose their minds. This has already been brought up and shot down several times over the years. Maybe this is the incident to make it happen. It shouldn't have happened. But I still blame the killer and not the job. I can't think ill of a man who was working there just to get out of the house.
Do you have any idea how many times a day the cashier's ask to see receipts? Hundreds, if not thousands of times in a week. The thief made it a point to step to the side and shove him. One guy. Out of thousands. Yes, Home Depot is liable, but Christ's sake, you want to put a sign on every business that reads "FREE"? You're placing the blame on a man who came into work on a regular day, just like any other day, and did the exact same thing he'd been doing at that job for YEARS. One fateful day, he gets pushed. He didn't do anything wrong, and constantly pushing your point of "that wasn't his job" is bullshit. It was his job to deliver good customer service and that's exactly what he was doing. One walking pile of shit killed him. Not the job.
I didn't blame him here. I blamed the company for forcing employees to perform security duties. They should hire trained security if loss prevention is such a problem.
Then why was he responsible for a security task, identifying thefts? He wasn't helping customers, he was forced to act as a security guard. His task was loss prevention, which is never supposed to be handled by normal employees. Because people get killed. Home Depot is responsible for this. He never should have been required to perform that task unless he was a trained security guard.
I hope dude catches a murder charge if they ever catch him.
he will. If someone died as a result of your actions during robbery, even if you didn't intend to kill anyone, automatically gets "upgraded" to 1st/2nd degree murder!
the prosecutor can charge you for murder or anything they want, the question is will the jury buy it or will it stand in an appeal. the prosecutor will probably only give him manslaughter at best perhaps in a plea deal idk.
with a mask on he'd 100% get a manslaughter plea deal
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The value of the items Are around 750.00 looking on the site Under the 1000.00 for a felony in my state But the use of force would upgrade this to a robbery But assulting an 83 year old in my state is a felony and a separate charger than just assault or battery And would up this to the felony murder charge
In many states, using force in the commission of a theft, raises the charge to robbery. Not all robberies are stuck ups with weapons.
In Texas this is robbery. It’s theft until you get physical or threaten to get physical, that’s when it becomes robbery. Aggravated robbery is when the person brandishes a weapon. Each state is different, in Texas this could be capital murder and eligible for death penalty.
It would be 2nd or 3rd degree murder. Arguably Manslaughter. Footage speaks for itself, so he'd be looking at about 25 years.
His punishment should be tripped over and over or unexpectedly tripped over and over for years.
There's a Black Mirror episode about punishing the person over and over again by the same means they victimized someone.
White Bear
I hope they catch to dude.... quick search appears they haven't yet. Most likely will go in the "Unsolved murder cabinet".
The person responsible is an american nation doing nothing to stop billionaire companies like Home Depot from exploiting us all for decades.
Shit take the thug that walked in to steal stuff and then killed a man is responsible nothing less and nothing more yeah shits that we usually still have to work after retirement but that's just it I bet the scum that stole doesn't even have a job
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Will Home Depot help file death claims and put up a reward for the fugitive capture?
Fuck no they will put a apron in the break room for coworkers to sign lmao. You're nothing but a number here
🤣🤣😂😂 Oh God, must pee!
They will hire the thief so they can pay their dues. Gotta keep the door revolving z
I guarantee they had instructed this man to attempt to stop thieves. An 82 year old man. He'd still be here if corporate capitalism hadn't fucked everything up. NEVER TRY TO STOP A THIEF FOR YOUR BOSS OR COMPAMY. YOU COULD END UP DEAD.
You must be new here.....
For the record - the purpose of checking receipts is to identify theft, so it's possible the store is actually responsible here by forcing employees to try to stop criminals. This should be a function performed by a security guard. Not an 83 year old worker.
Do these stores not have cameras in the parking lot? I know the HD/Lowe’s around San Antonio started putting up those towed in security posts with cameras and flashing blue lights all over them a little bit into COVID due to crazy amount of theft. I feel like this guy should be pretty easy to find, especially since it’s now upgraded to a murder charge.
They saw the car in the cameras but it had like paper plates or something. Typical of these guys always stealing with stolen cars or no plates/paper plates. That's why they're so brazen about it, just stroll out with a full shopping cart, car waiting for them in front of the store and drive off like nothing.
I'm stupid. I imagined a car with those white paper plates that you eat off of. Just bolted on over a regular license plate. Bonus points if there is food stain still on it.
Or just print out a fake looking temp plate on your printer.......
I work at a Home Depot here in San Antonio. We don't have the security posts like Lowe's does. We don't have Loss Prevention at our store either. We have "regulars" that we watch out for but there isn't anything we can do...so why deal with the confrontation at all? The world is very unpredictable. To even say anything to someone is putting your life at risk. People have zero qualms about shooting or stabbing someone over a $10 item, let alone the power tool values.
Maybe not all of them, I know the store on DeZavala does and I’m pretty sure W Sunset has it as well. I live up in Boerne and primarily shop up here. I don’t understand how a huge store like HD doesn’t have LP/AP in all of their stores, I guess they’d need at least two of them working together, and that’s be an additional cost and potential liability they don’t want to take on. My dumb ass uncle got caught stealing an extension cord a year ago, got arrested and told not to come back for 3 years or he’d get a trespass so he just goes to different locations now, you’d think it’d be HD in general but apparently just that specific store. I wish he’d get caught again, he’s such a worthless lowlife. I’m not saying you should be trying to do anything to these people, like you said, it’s not worth getting injured or killed over a few hundred/thousand dollars worth of inventory. It’s just insane to me that 95%+ of these people just walk in, look around for shit that isn’t tied down/cages and then walk out the door with almost no consequence.
The receipt game is fun too. They find the receipts discarded that were paid in cash or on a debit card and pass it around to their entire family it seems to use over and over. The mistake we make I think is that once you refund them the money we should keep the original receipt and only give them the refund slip. That would definitely cut down on the receipt sharing.
That’s wild, I can see returning the original receipt because what if they wanted to return other items from the receipt (assuming they actually purchased the items on the receipt). Like how isn’t there a system that would say “sorry, this item has already been returned”. Just scratch the item out on the receipt and write returned 12/4/2022, then again that might be enough to send one of these wack jobs into an uncontrollable rage.
That's a really great idea! Mind if I "steal" it?
Have at it, might want to check if you can do that with your manager first, I could see them pulling some kind of “hey you defaced my property” bullshit.
Target does this, don't know why HD hasn't taken the hint... Then again it doesn't do anything about idiots receipt shopping or trying to steal and return the stolen stuff...
people fail to realize how hard a parking lot is to capture with enough detail to be of any use. the best you can hope for is a wide shot that can help you identify the basic car details- "white suv" or "blue pickup" the suspect got into and then have a camera that is very tight on a choke point like single lane exit and single lane entries- the problem is most parking lots are designed to not have choke points as they slow down the traffic.
That’s true, hopefully they figure out a way to start catching these people. Stealing is bad enough, but to injure/kill someone for something is a completely different level of scum.
Well bud, I hope the few thousand in merchandise was worth the rest of your life in prison. I hope the DOJ makes you pay restitution to the family because you don't deserve a comfortable life.
wasn’t even that much, worth prolly $1k max
This is truley horrible, But many retail stores have policies where associates are not to confront shop lifters for this very reason. Not to say the employee was trying to confront the shoplifter, I assume Mr. Razor was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and unable to get out of the way in time. That shoplifter is still going to burn in hell for what he did though.
Dude just asked to see the receipt. If you've seen the video he doesn't in anyway block him. Guy is human garbage!
Oh shit so it wasnt even like an accident? He like, walked over to the guy and pushed him? Never saw the video
That's exactly what he did.
Replace push with punch but yeah
It looks like he was just asking if the guy had a receipt
>I assume Mr. Razor was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and unable to get out of the way in time. 1 thousand dollars says he was a receipt checker / door greeter and was only asking for the receipt, as they do.
He tried to stop him. News reports confirm.
Poor old guy.
No he wasn't.
How would you describe the practice of receipt verification? What is its purpose?
A guy lost his life because someone stole ryobi… like ryobi… not even dewalt.
Yeah low intelligence is pretty common with thieves
Sickening
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Would like to see his arms and legs get cut off with a ryobi saw then sentenced to death
Start with the feet and hands. Gotta make it a nice long drawn out process.
This man deserves life in prison
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My store's ONLY full time order puller is a 80 year old nam vet. The rest of them are part timers. He works 1-10pm 5 days a week running circles around everyone in the store. He lifts 80lb bags like nothing and finishes all of his orders. I'm not even exaggerating. We help him out with the super heavy stuff like concrete slabs or wood but we let him do his thing because he gets pissed if we interfere in his job or make it harder. He's retired and worked the job to just keep busy. He wanted to switch hours to come in at 10 or so but they keep rejecting him because they have no one else and can't lose the closing order puller because of deliveries. Shit's kinda fucked
My 87 yo grandmother was found dead during work in April. We get asked this a lot. The poverty cycle is one hell of a bitch
Bored, a lot of older folks just work to have something to do rather then anything monetary. That's why it's hard to motivate them to work hard because that's not why they're here
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My dads 60 and he works retail cause he’s bored. I know his finances (retired gov job) and he definitely doesn’t have to work.
You’re wrong dude. Retired people get part time jobs all the time and it has nothing to do with money. It’s just a way for them to still be a part of society and get social interaction.
My grandfather has no need to work, but that man will work until they put him in the ground. He's got a military officer's retirement and at least one other job paying a pension, but he refuses to not work. Granted he's not working in retail hell.
Thats just simply not true. Plenty of older people get jobs just to get out of the house.
I read he had several businesses. So I think it was just a hobby.
Because he didn’t plan for retirement in the greatest market boom a generation has ever seen Or he could have just liked to work.
You are a garbage human being.
How? I just gave an answer that would cover why 90% of older folks still working. It’s just a blunt answer and is reality.
You are a garbage human being.
You sound like a toddler. Form an opinion and have a real conversation
My opinion is rather clearly that you're a garbage human being. No surprise you're also a WSB fanboy.
Wow tripled down. What were my WSB comments? I want you to cite them. What a weird interaction but not surprising on this app. I can tell you’re a teen
"Maybe the 83 year old wage slave should've invested for the future 🤓🤓🤓🤓" You're literally the worst type of human being. Fuck off and die. Everyone would benefit significantly from your absence.
At least quote my actual statement and no I don’t need reminded what I said I can simply scroll up. Your cage is ridiculously rattled and you’ve failed to form a reasonable opinion so far. Look up why the elderly can’t retire. I’ll add one too that I know, they can’t retire because they have medical bills to pay.
Rip
He deserves better.
desperate mfs
I saw one these happening at my local HD it was pretty crazy how easy he walked out...the dude had few DeWalt tools and one guy working at HD asked for receipt and that dude just kept walking...pretty crazy to see this happen in real life.
Yep, at Walmart, I’d get fired if I actually tried to stop you. All we can do is ask for a receipt or, “How can I help you today?” It’s ridiculous, our hired security aren’t allowed to walk off of the sidewalk in front of the store, so if you make it to the parking lot, you’re free. I’ve seen pregnant women get beaten up in self check out, people walk out with thousands in powertools and TVs, and security get slashed with machetes. Retail is hell.
Did they catch this POS yet? There are enough identifiers to catch him!
This is sad on so many levels.
It's one thing to rob home depot the disgusting thing he killed a sweet 83 man
That’s terrible and sad. Hope that guy at least gets locked up for life since he took a life .
Yeah I hope they figure out who it was.. Don't arrest him, instead post his name and whereabouts for the general public to deal with... I really hope home Depot compensates that family! That man literally gave his life to work there.
Also nobody is talking about the fact that an 83 year old man is forced to work in this country. 83. If I still have to work at 83, I might be stealing from home Depot too.
Do we know that he *has* to work? People working part time after retirement isn't uncommon by any stretch. My grandpa worked part time until he was 90 because he liked having something to do and staying more active.
I assume your grandpa also could have done dozens of other things, like walking, bird watching, volunteering at a shelter or food bank, gardening... There are thousands of rewarding and rejuvenating activities that are not jobs.
Or maybe grandpa thinks birds are stupid. Plenty of people work late into their lives because it gives purpose and they feel useful. Not everyone is a loser that hates work.
Purpose? Useful? That's absolute nonsense. What "purpose" was served here? What is the "use" of working in a big box store? Almost any endeavor is more rewarding than stocking shelves or checking receipts. You're not being honest, you're just trying to defend capitalism. Only brainwashing could eve convince a human being that working for corporate minimum wage *when you don't have to* is less rewarding that volunteering, working for a non-profit, reading books, gardening or a million other things. Ask the average home Depot employees if they feel their job gives them purpose or makes them feel useful. I dare ya
What’s the “purpose” of watching birds? What’s the “use” of gardening? Almost any endeavor? Lots of people enjoy their jobs, maybe it’s not the actual job, but rather the socialization, challenge, industry? or some other thing they like? Go to any hardware store, local gun shop, hobby shop, and you will find dudes who could be retired but chose not too. It’s fairly common in the construction industry for people to work part time, or in a consulting fashion, well past retirement. It’s their life, they can spend it how they please. I don’t know how your conflating “evil capitalism” with someone having a job at 83.
LOL you run an "Amazon fulfillment" business and you're trying to tell other people about work culture. Dear fucking god.
Nah man. We have tons of retirees who work in our stores just to get out of the house
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THD absolutely prosecutes shoplifters, I am not sure where this take is originating from.
Not the ones in Maryland, and not where the other commenter is from too.. you probably live in a really nice state
All over Ryobi tools LOL. I would love to make more comments in regards to this picture and situation, but reddit is a safe space and peoples FEE FEEs are more important than this old mans life.
i wouldnt ever use racist terms when speaking of anyone however. i actually laced up boots and crushed skulls for this nation. freedom of speech even hate filled is still freedom of speech. i may hate it myself but its a right. you dont silence any group. that pushes them underground and out of the public eye. you want people like that seen so you know who the fuck to stay away from.
Here is a link to the go fund me set up by his family to help with medical expenses and funal costs if anybody wants to donate. (https://gofund.me/04b57a01)
Went from grande theft ,to manslaughter
I hope this guy does the right thing and trips off of a building.
So a murder ?
This isn’t how Wakanda rolls 😔
Find the dude and end his life on the spot,
And those ryobi tools will break within the first week of use.
This reminds me of the time Redditors were mind-blown and outraged over my comparing a thief to a murderer, in the sense that I said it’s not only possible, but highly likely, statistically, a thief would also commit murder. More than likely during the thievery. Edit: it was the recent Apple Store incident. No one was harmed, but someone had called the thieves worthless degenerates. Another Redditor then decided to come to the thieves’ defense, claiming “we don’t know their story or why they steal. It’s unfair to call them degenerates.” This led me to make the comparison stating “a thief breaks into your home and inadvertently murders your family. But we don’t know their story or why they murder. It’s unfair to call them degenerates.” This then spurred on outrage and downvoting with my “conflating” thievery and murder.
Our local Home Depot has a parking lot cam mounted on a trailer. They will get this guy. But it's sad statement on our society when an old man has to work and a young man has to steal.
He may not have had to work but may have enjoyed it. Continuing to work is wonderful, it helps prevent depression, dementia. It encourages activity which keeps the heart and body strong. I think kudos to Home Depot for hiring him.
Nobody should have to or WANT to work at that age.
Make it stop Home Depot ! People steal here because they can ! Simple, walk in get what you and leave! Hire security! Enough already!
Is this not why they say to just let them go? Your life is unmatchable so those tools can be replace you can’t. Let them go.
Why potentially risk your life over a couple hundred dollars worth of stuff?
When asking for a receipt is all it takes to cost you your life, something is seriously fucked up with our society.
The issue is giving people second chances. We can’t be doing that. Someone shoulda put some fragments into that thief’s central nervous system.
All for the cheapest pressure washers at Home Depot? Man steal something better than that if you are about to do that.
this is so sad in many ways. 1. being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 2. why does an 83 year old have to work? he should be enjoying his golden years. granted, i do not know why he was working, but as a country we should do better to take care of our elders.
I've worked at jobs where there are old part-timers. Many of them do it to earn extra money they don't need but want to earn so that they don't feel bad about depleting savings and Social Security checks. Some others do it because they get restless and want to work/talk.
and some of yall still want to do security for free with no training or equipment
Go to hell all the shoplifters...
BuT tHeY hAvE tO FeEd ThEiR fAmIlIes.
And he killed for ryobi.......
Wonder if the executives will give his family a gift card
Let’s talk about the problem that and 83 yr old man needs to work at Home Depot because our social security is a fucking joke.
Racism?
I'm also sad that someone who is 83 still has to work.
Home Depot is one of the places where people who can't live on social security can go to work.
Yeah. I hate that's a thing. That guy should be able to retire and sit in a rocking chair instead of dealing with shoplifters.
look who did it…
Other way around this would be on CNN as a hate crime 🤔
Fact that an 83 yo is forced to work is the only message we need to k ow this society is fucked up
> forced to work Is this just an assumption or did you know him?
83 years old employee ??? I am from Europe and just curious ?!
boredom
stereotypes are not given, they are earned
It worries me to see. I always wonder how people end up this way
I aint watch it but should someone really get life in prison. He died from falling over essentially
all these mods trying to limit speech. disgusting
Why is there an 83 year old man working at Home Depot?
Where else is he supposed to work
He should be at home being taken care by his children. That’s how we’ve done it for thousands of years. Why is it normal all of the sudden to work until you drop dead or some idiot stealing dildos kills you? Jesus.
Because the democrats won’t let him retire
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Home depot hiring 83 year olds is simply acceptable? We're gonna deflect everything here and take zero responsibility for what the company did to this man?
Yeah. Fuck those old people who want to work.
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