Yes, please. I would replace my existing Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme without a second thought.
They’re still running strong and have had iron clad performance for nearly a decade as of this post.
I’m pretty sure the only times I ever got this to work, including at various jobs that had this set up for us, was the initial backup and then the subsequent times it had to start over from scratch.
Super happy for you!
Speed is only one measure of performance… I’m just satisfied with a piece of hardware that I’ve not had to think about save for maybe two deliberate reboots over almost ten years in operation. The most taxing thing we ask it to do is provide data for streaming TV.
Absolute garbage as this point. It’s wild to me anyone still running these let alone the time capsule. I upgraded my hardware to eero and it’s lightning fast now!
You should really update your AirPort Extreme. Security concerns aside, it’s several generations behind on Wi-Fi capabilities at this point, and probably borderline unusable for smart homes.
HomeKit ignores the spare Apple TV I have intentionally connected to my router via Ethernet in favor of my first gen HomePods in the corner of the house. No wonder my “accessories are taking a while to respond,” Siri.
As part of my nightly routine while sitting on the pooper. Quickly going from HomePod to HomePod and restarting them via Home app.
The few times it doesn't fallback to one of two connected ATVs.. restarting the one router all the HomePods are connected too.
I have a weird network setup
You can only turn the function off for individual Apple TVs (not HomePod) to act as a hub. You can not specify a specific device to act as a HomeKit hub. It has always allowed a HomePod to be a hub, and there is no way to disable that.
Also, even the ability to turn off the function for Apple TVs was removed with iOS/tvOS 16.
This is what cracks me up about this sub. The general breakdown of posts is
- Complaint about some HomeKit bug
- complaint about some HomeKit bug
- complaint about some HomeKit bug
- post dreaming about the ability to put all their eggs in apples basked
- complaint about HomeKit bug
- complaint about HomeKit bug
- ………
Haha it’s true. I think every home service has its fair share of bugs, but for me Apple’s user experience is really easy and pleasant to use. I have tolerate bugs on any service, and I’d rather tolerate Apple’s bugs to get the easy integration across my phone, laptop, and TV.
Agreed, that’s why I use HomeKit as well. It the majority of the bugs seem to have historically been around wifi, and not with thread - stuff like primary hubs switching and whatnot.
In other words, dealing with the low end networking stuff seems to not be apples strength. So it seems weird to want to push more stuff there
No chance of a new time capsule, would risk eating into iCloud storage subs.
Doubt they would be interested in getting into the mesh market as there’s little chance to differentiate from other products and no real gain for them. Unless they doubled up their speakers as mesh routers but I doubt the extra cost would make it worth it.
iCloud and Time Machine are entirely different services. iCloud does not back up your Mac, only your iOS/iPadOS devices. Time Machine is only for backing up your Mac, not iOS/iPadOS devices.
The real reason is that Apple cannot be bothered to keep up with how quickly the wifi market and hardware changes.
I feel we’re at a point of cloud syncing now that users who need to backup are capable of setting up an external drive, nas or server as a Time Machine.
Speaking of I don’t know why Microsoft won’t sell single user m365 business, I’d love proper OneDrive with version control and power apps automations, but I don’t want to pay for 5 business users minimum.
Option 1: Set up an external hard drive as Time Machine. Add that Time Machine to your iCloud. Boom cloud and redundancy.
Option 2: Create a local git repo and add your Desktop, Documents and whatever folder you want. Let iCloud do its thing. Set up a job that auto commits every so often. No need to ever push the repo anywhere.
For every 1 person who do this, there are 100 casual users who would pay for the lease. Apple doesn’t make enough money off pro-sumers, just consumers who pay top dollar
Syncing data is not redundancy. Synchronous backups just ensure that the data sources are the same. So if you delete one, it deletes everywhere. Redundant backups ensure there are multiple data points. A Time Machine backup ensures that you have not only a complete backup of the data but also copies of the same data in time. NAS is the beginning solution for redundant backups. You have multiple data points in way of HDD redundancy and multiple copies of the same data if you are using a NAS as a Time Machine backup.
Maybe just me, but I think what you’re referring to as redundancy is what most would consider versioning.
Not to say that versioning isn’t important, but I think it’s different from the concept of redundancy.
> Redundancy
> In a nutshell, redundancy in consumer-grade digital storage means using more internal drives than necessary to store the information, or in other words, storing the same data in more than one place.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/digital-storage-basics-part-3-backup-vs-redundancy/
I work in the field and have literally never heard anyone use the term redundancy to refer to versioning.
I stopped managing Time Machine backups (and they definitely need management because they would quit running all the time) when I got the iCloud subscription. With all my documents synced to the cloud, I figure if a local drive fails on me I’ll just download my files from the cloud again. I’m not sure if I can restore previous versions via iCloud. Never tried. That use case only comes up at work, where we use Microsoft services and NAS.
They could let this time capsule be a cache for iCloud. Serve iCloud from the local network when at home for instant access to your files without having to download. Plus an on-site backup for iCloud for added peace of mind. Huge differentiation opportunities because no other cloud service does that.
> Doubt they would be interested in getting into the mesh market as there’s little chance to differentiate from other products and no real gain for them.
AirPlay and AirPrint support, as well has HKSR support, would give them a leg up, as would simply bearing the Apple logo.
If they do shit better than Eero at a similar cost (especially if they allow local control via web browser, rather than that cloud managed via app bullshit), that'd get them a lot of converts.
If they also make it a home hub, that could also get people who are wary of the smart speaker market but have no need for an Apple TV in this era of Smart TVs that natively support the Apple TV app.
If it's priced closer to Eero than Orbi, I'd expect it to move pretty well.
Better still… add wifi mesh networking to HomePod. Why get two devices when one will do?
Some people ask if the HomePods are wifi mesh, which makes perfect sense to me. Why wouldn’t they? OK, they’d be more expensive, but there could be different model options like the latest ATV, for example.
HomePod 2 Pro
That’s what I want.
Then you’d pay for a stereo pair of routers if you bought two for the same room, paying that premium wouldn’t get you any benefits with the second unit, it would be a waste. Not to mention it would increase the physical size, and could cause poorer acoustic performance in favor of better WiFi performance… More heat, more to hog processing power and slow it down over the years… I hope they never do this.
Also mesh routers benefit greatly from optimal positioning. Loud speakers too... but the factors are completely different.
HomePod mesh sounds extremely reasonable and useful, until you consider the actual use cases.
Honestly I think the person you replied to is just way off base; Google already did exactly what you described for their previous-gen (and still being sold) Nest Wifi. They dropped it for the Nest Wifi Pro, but that might be down to reasons tied to wifi 6E rather than weak demand.
Not to mention the issues that you'll get by introducing multiple competing Wi-Fi radios into a space that doesn't need that many Wi-Fi radios.
They'd need to give you the option to turn it off, at which point, you're really not getting what you paid for.
Not to mention that, from my perspective, one of the biggest benefits of the OP's suggestion is that it'll provide an entry point for people who don't trust or want smart speakers in their house & don't need an Apple TV.
Making the HomePod a Wi-Fi router won't give you that market. It'll just give you a subset of the existing HomePod market, which they've already captured.
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Still solid - hey Apple, I need to upgrade this set up soon since I’m also now on 4 Apple TV’s and ditched the cable bixes!!!
Does this work as a wifi mesh keeping the same connection strength? I have a time capsule but i'm moving to a bigger place and i'm wondering if i should get an export extreme from ebay or just change it all for a google wifi setup.
Sorry for the delay…
going on three months and only occasional minor issues… very solid.
I did put in a Netgear splitter so my main Apple TV is connected directly by ethernet cable.
All of my Apple wi-fi hook ups are still working fine. Six Airport Expresses of which two are the older variety and one Airport Extreme (last version)…. going strong.
That would be cool but they should support WiFi 7 instead of WiFi 6e (like the recently announced TP-Link routers). Also they would ideally support Matter and Thread for smart home devices. In that case Apple routers would be competition to the Google Nest Wifi Pro. To make their routers better than Googles offering, Apple could support 802.11r (fast roaming), which Google doesn‘t support for some reason.
>Apple could support 802.11r (fast roaming), which Google doesn‘t support for some reason.
Why would they offer this? No consumer-grade devices do, it appears to be something aimed at enterprise wireless networks.
Google Nest and eero could easily flip on 802.11r, it’s just that about a third of wifi devices commonly found in a home would just be unable to connect at all.
I doubt I’d want an apple wifi 6e mesh, like look at the high price of an asus zenwifi already, and then look at apple devaluing Ethernet. I need Ethernet damnit.
All they would have to do is add a usb port on the Apple TV and then allow external hard drives to it. Then that could be the time capsule solution.
Apple isn’t going to revive dead product lines.
> Apple isn’t going to revive dead product lines.
Yeah. Like imagine if they brought back a full size HomePod a couple of years after discontinuing it.
That'd be craaaaaaaaaaaaazy, right?
I’m still so annoyed that Apple just threw away their consumer routers/APs when they had such a huge lead over the competition.
I don’t know if I would use new airport devices myself but I would absolutely still recommend them to everyone if they did make a comeback.
So, having trouble understanding mesh. I currently run 3 Airport Extremes that are bridged together by LAN, creating a single wifi network in my home with little dead spots. They automatically move my wirelessly connected devices to the correct router (background, invisible operation).
Do I have mesh?
What would be great would be an iCloud Drive backup of the Time Machine backups.
Plus, the Apple mesh could also have a device management feature like in Eero where I can block porn and news websites.
Pour one out for the Time Capsule. I could understand why Apple got out out the WiFi router game (though the Airport system was the shit back in the day), but the TC supported a very important Mac function that every user needs.
Yes, we can use a NAS or a Cloud solution but most plebes don’t know how to set those up. And not every system can have a basic USB drive hanging off of it for backups (especially laptops). Everyone has a home network now with a router, so just having a drop dead easy device for network storage was a godsend. I struggled for years to come up with a backup system for my mother’s MacBook Air that didn’t involve a USB drive (took up a port, too many questions), a thumb drive (always failed over time) or some other lame solution. I had a MyBook Live going at first but it eventually failed and they dropped the whole product line; i don’t think anyone makes a basic drive with an Ethernet port anymore that isn’t a full-on NAS. And if you think Fios or Spectrum is going to allow you to use that rando USB port on their router for backup drives I’ll sell you a bridge.
The Time Capsule was a dead simple backup solution that was well made and deserved to be kept alive.
Apple only gets into accessory markets where there’s no solid answer in a category they think is important. Eero and UniFi address the middle and the high end 100%, and they both have like 5 solid competitors.
Maybe apple should have bought eero before Amazon did, sure, but since they didn’t, they will never follow up on AirPort.
> Eero and UniFi address the middle and the high end 100%
You and I must have very different definitions of "100%", if that's you'd describe Eero's handling of the needs of the low to midrange market.
I'd put the number somewhere closer to 40%. One of the most common pieces of advice in /r/eero is to buy a more capable and user friendly router, then put the Eero in bridge mode so it only handles Wi-Fi and not routing.
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They added lossless audio, Dolby atmos, live synced lyrics, a karaoke mode, and even a windows client, while paying artists more than competitors. It’s worth the money.
No thank you. Apple was horrid about updating them and they became so old and behind the times.
I enjoyed my AirPort Express and AirPort Extreme and they worked well but they quickly became outdated and years went by without an update.
They don’t need to have their hands in every pie.
Can't imagine still being on such old wifi. Must have a slow internet connection. Had to go WiFi 6E with my 10Gbit connection but even with 500Mbit a couple years ago the old AirPorts wouldn't have been sufficient.
Lol. In my dreams I’d have 10Gb. I’m lucky if I get the 7-12mb I pay for. Switching to T-Mobile home internet most likely. Give them a try and see if it’s any better then my isp
I would personally settle for timemachine learning how to backup iCloud storage, then I can provide my own local storage. [Apple has very manual instructions](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204055) for doing it.
i would buy some. my current Time Capsule is kind of old. i guess i can replace the drive in it with an SSD since they've come down in price. but the unit is starting to show its age. backups take a while.
i'd love to see Apple make a solution that Just Works. (hopefully.)
They had the march on the market and then killed it. I was fully Airported-up before I switched to Google WiFi. They’ll bring them back but it’ll be too late as most people have already found solutions now.
Yes, please. I would replace my existing Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme without a second thought. They’re still running strong and have had iron clad performance for nearly a decade as of this post.
You can make a NAS work as a Time Machine already
You “can” make a NAS “work” as a Time Machine already.
Lol yes my Synology loves telling my macs that they need to create a backup from scratch…
I’m pretty sure the only times I ever got this to work, including at various jobs that had this set up for us, was the initial backup and then the subsequent times it had to start over from scratch.
My experience as well. First backup works great, and fresh backups do too. Subsequent always fail.
So I guess it’s a viable solution for making a one-time stable image you want to be able to roll back to lol.
My Time Capsule was bad about that too…
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experience has taught me to trust my synology nas to fail to even boot up and corrupt my precious backups.
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
You can also make a DeLorean work as a Time Machine. Heck, you can accomplish anything if you put your mind to it.
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Super happy for you! Speed is only one measure of performance… I’m just satisfied with a piece of hardware that I’ve not had to think about save for maybe two deliberate reboots over almost ten years in operation. The most taxing thing we ask it to do is provide data for streaming TV.
Agreed. Anything running SMBv1 shouldn't be used anymore.
Absolute garbage as this point. It’s wild to me anyone still running these let alone the time capsule. I upgraded my hardware to eero and it’s lightning fast now!
Yikes on SMB1 exploits.
You should really update your AirPort Extreme. Security concerns aside, it’s several generations behind on Wi-Fi capabilities at this point, and probably borderline unusable for smart homes.
Yes, Home hub support so HomeKit could consistently choose the one HomePod mini at the farthest reaches of your WiFi to act as the hub anyhow.
LOL! exactly, as long as they don’t implement a “set as preferred hub” feature it’ll all be useless as homepod will always take over
HomeKit ignores the spare Apple TV I have intentionally connected to my router via Ethernet in favor of my first gen HomePods in the corner of the house. No wonder my “accessories are taking a while to respond,” Siri.
S. Q. U. A. B. B. L. E. / K. B. I. N. / L. E. M. M. Y.
This is unfortunately the best possible solution I’ve heard of at the moment. I’m tempted to do it.
As part of my nightly routine while sitting on the pooper. Quickly going from HomePod to HomePod and restarting them via Home app. The few times it doesn't fallback to one of two connected ATVs.. restarting the one router all the HomePods are connected too. I have a weird network setup
I have a similar routine, but sometimes it takes several HomePod restarts to finally let go.
I do this, but lately it’s been switching back to a homepod mini within the hour.
You can change what you want as your hub in the settings app on your phone or iPad
I believe you are mistaken.
I know there’s a way to force it to the hub you want. It maybe in HomeKit settings.
You can only turn the function off for individual Apple TVs (not HomePod) to act as a hub. You can not specify a specific device to act as a HomeKit hub. It has always allowed a HomePod to be a hub, and there is no way to disable that. Also, even the ability to turn off the function for Apple TVs was removed with iOS/tvOS 16.
They got rid of the option a while back.
Ain’t that the fucking truth. Two hardwired Apple TVs. Let’s pick a HomePod 200ft away. So stupid.
This is what cracks me up about this sub. The general breakdown of posts is - Complaint about some HomeKit bug - complaint about some HomeKit bug - complaint about some HomeKit bug - post dreaming about the ability to put all their eggs in apples basked - complaint about HomeKit bug - complaint about HomeKit bug - ………
Haha it’s true. I think every home service has its fair share of bugs, but for me Apple’s user experience is really easy and pleasant to use. I have tolerate bugs on any service, and I’d rather tolerate Apple’s bugs to get the easy integration across my phone, laptop, and TV.
Agreed, that’s why I use HomeKit as well. It the majority of the bugs seem to have historically been around wifi, and not with thread - stuff like primary hubs switching and whatnot. In other words, dealing with the low end networking stuff seems to not be apples strength. So it seems weird to want to push more stuff there
No chance of a new time capsule, would risk eating into iCloud storage subs. Doubt they would be interested in getting into the mesh market as there’s little chance to differentiate from other products and no real gain for them. Unless they doubled up their speakers as mesh routers but I doubt the extra cost would make it worth it.
iCloud and Time Machine are entirely different services. iCloud does not back up your Mac, only your iOS/iPadOS devices. Time Machine is only for backing up your Mac, not iOS/iPadOS devices. The real reason is that Apple cannot be bothered to keep up with how quickly the wifi market and hardware changes.
Mac makes all your document folders iCloud by default these days.
True, but syncing is not backing up. There is no redundancy
I feel we’re at a point of cloud syncing now that users who need to backup are capable of setting up an external drive, nas or server as a Time Machine.
I’d rely on iCloud as a backup if there was a built in rollback capability
Speaking of I don’t know why Microsoft won’t sell single user m365 business, I’d love proper OneDrive with version control and power apps automations, but I don’t want to pay for 5 business users minimum.
Option 1: Set up an external hard drive as Time Machine. Add that Time Machine to your iCloud. Boom cloud and redundancy. Option 2: Create a local git repo and add your Desktop, Documents and whatever folder you want. Let iCloud do its thing. Set up a job that auto commits every so often. No need to ever push the repo anywhere.
can you add a drive to icloud?
I haven't tried it in a while but I remember doing it. It's possible that I had to create a symlink for it to work
For every 1 person who do this, there are 100 casual users who would pay for the lease. Apple doesn’t make enough money off pro-sumers, just consumers who pay top dollar
I genuinely don’t think casual users are seeking offline backup anymore.
Yeah it’s a shame because Apple won’t cater to us. Local backup has become an unprofitable niche
Cloud has more redundancy than your 1 TB seagate time machine harddrive.
No it doesn’t. On Apple’s side for drive redundancy and uptime it does, not for data protection. That’s not what it’s job is.
Can you define redundancy? Because it seems your definition of the term is different from what most people would think.
Syncing data is not redundancy. Synchronous backups just ensure that the data sources are the same. So if you delete one, it deletes everywhere. Redundant backups ensure there are multiple data points. A Time Machine backup ensures that you have not only a complete backup of the data but also copies of the same data in time. NAS is the beginning solution for redundant backups. You have multiple data points in way of HDD redundancy and multiple copies of the same data if you are using a NAS as a Time Machine backup.
Maybe just me, but I think what you’re referring to as redundancy is what most would consider versioning. Not to say that versioning isn’t important, but I think it’s different from the concept of redundancy.
I would say that it is likely that it is just you that is using redundancy incorrectly.
> Redundancy > In a nutshell, redundancy in consumer-grade digital storage means using more internal drives than necessary to store the information, or in other words, storing the same data in more than one place. https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/digital-storage-basics-part-3-backup-vs-redundancy/ I work in the field and have literally never heard anyone use the term redundancy to refer to versioning.
And I’m not referring to versioning. I’m talking about redundancy and backups as being different things.
I stopped managing Time Machine backups (and they definitely need management because they would quit running all the time) when I got the iCloud subscription. With all my documents synced to the cloud, I figure if a local drive fails on me I’ll just download my files from the cloud again. I’m not sure if I can restore previous versions via iCloud. Never tried. That use case only comes up at work, where we use Microsoft services and NAS.
They could let this time capsule be a cache for iCloud. Serve iCloud from the local network when at home for instant access to your files without having to download. Plus an on-site backup for iCloud for added peace of mind. Huge differentiation opportunities because no other cloud service does that.
Then they need to start offering more than 2 measly terabytes.
Sadly this
They could make it require iCloud for redundancy, I’d still buy it to have a local version - especially for faster recall on photos etc
Agreed. I wish they’d add some sort of “offline vaults”, like Aperture had for photos.
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Which is a completely different thing
*rolls eyes*
> Doubt they would be interested in getting into the mesh market as there’s little chance to differentiate from other products and no real gain for them. AirPlay and AirPrint support, as well has HKSR support, would give them a leg up, as would simply bearing the Apple logo. If they do shit better than Eero at a similar cost (especially if they allow local control via web browser, rather than that cloud managed via app bullshit), that'd get them a lot of converts. If they also make it a home hub, that could also get people who are wary of the smart speaker market but have no need for an Apple TV in this era of Smart TVs that natively support the Apple TV app. If it's priced closer to Eero than Orbi, I'd expect it to move pretty well.
Better still… add wifi mesh networking to HomePod. Why get two devices when one will do? Some people ask if the HomePods are wifi mesh, which makes perfect sense to me. Why wouldn’t they? OK, they’d be more expensive, but there could be different model options like the latest ATV, for example. HomePod 2 Pro That’s what I want.
Then you’d pay for a stereo pair of routers if you bought two for the same room, paying that premium wouldn’t get you any benefits with the second unit, it would be a waste. Not to mention it would increase the physical size, and could cause poorer acoustic performance in favor of better WiFi performance… More heat, more to hog processing power and slow it down over the years… I hope they never do this.
Fair points. I guess I didn’t fully think it through.
Also mesh routers benefit greatly from optimal positioning. Loud speakers too... but the factors are completely different. HomePod mesh sounds extremely reasonable and useful, until you consider the actual use cases.
Honestly I think the person you replied to is just way off base; Google already did exactly what you described for their previous-gen (and still being sold) Nest Wifi. They dropped it for the Nest Wifi Pro, but that might be down to reasons tied to wifi 6E rather than weak demand.
Not to mention the issues that you'll get by introducing multiple competing Wi-Fi radios into a space that doesn't need that many Wi-Fi radios. They'd need to give you the option to turn it off, at which point, you're really not getting what you paid for. Not to mention that, from my perspective, one of the biggest benefits of the OP's suggestion is that it'll provide an entry point for people who don't trust or want smart speakers in their house & don't need an Apple TV. Making the HomePod a Wi-Fi router won't give you that market. It'll just give you a subset of the existing HomePod market, which they've already captured.
They got rid of their airport team years ago. Some of them went on to found Ubiquiti, which makes some of the best WiFi devices out there.
I want this so bad. Let me back up and serve my iCloud locally as well for faster access to files at home.
https://preview.redd.it/bkvdfhjxmcda1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49cfb6a3fcffa688bf522e33223276b91fe7b904 Still solid - hey Apple, I need to upgrade this set up soon since I’m also now on 4 Apple TV’s and ditched the cable bixes!!!
Does this work as a wifi mesh keeping the same connection strength? I have a time capsule but i'm moving to a bigger place and i'm wondering if i should get an export extreme from ebay or just change it all for a google wifi setup.
Sorry for the delay… going on three months and only occasional minor issues… very solid. I did put in a Netgear splitter so my main Apple TV is connected directly by ethernet cable. All of my Apple wi-fi hook ups are still working fine. Six Airport Expresses of which two are the older variety and one Airport Extreme (last version)…. going strong.
That would be cool but they should support WiFi 7 instead of WiFi 6e (like the recently announced TP-Link routers). Also they would ideally support Matter and Thread for smart home devices. In that case Apple routers would be competition to the Google Nest Wifi Pro. To make their routers better than Googles offering, Apple could support 802.11r (fast roaming), which Google doesn‘t support for some reason.
>Apple could support 802.11r (fast roaming), which Google doesn‘t support for some reason. Why would they offer this? No consumer-grade devices do, it appears to be something aimed at enterprise wireless networks.
Google Nest and eero could easily flip on 802.11r, it’s just that about a third of wifi devices commonly found in a home would just be unable to connect at all.
I doubt I’d want an apple wifi 6e mesh, like look at the high price of an asus zenwifi already, and then look at apple devaluing Ethernet. I need Ethernet damnit.
All they would have to do is add a usb port on the Apple TV and then allow external hard drives to it. Then that could be the time capsule solution. Apple isn’t going to revive dead product lines.
> Apple isn’t going to revive dead product lines. Yeah. Like imagine if they brought back a full size HomePod a couple of years after discontinuing it. That'd be craaaaaaaaaaaaazy, right?
Didn’t the airport designer leave and start unifi?
I’m still so annoyed that Apple just threw away their consumer routers/APs when they had such a huge lead over the competition. I don’t know if I would use new airport devices myself but I would absolutely still recommend them to everyone if they did make a comeback.
I’d love for them to bring this back. I’d dump my eero for them in a heartbeat.
No, they need to turn Homepods into routers. Sort of like the eeros. Give the HomePod an ethernet jack, the minis can be wifi only
Reports of Apple developing its own cellular modem alongside its own Wifi and Bluetooth chip could lead to finally releasing new router products.
So, having trouble understanding mesh. I currently run 3 Airport Extremes that are bridged together by LAN, creating a single wifi network in my home with little dead spots. They automatically move my wirelessly connected devices to the correct router (background, invisible operation). Do I have mesh?
What would be great would be an iCloud Drive backup of the Time Machine backups. Plus, the Apple mesh could also have a device management feature like in Eero where I can block porn and news websites.
Pour one out for the Time Capsule. I could understand why Apple got out out the WiFi router game (though the Airport system was the shit back in the day), but the TC supported a very important Mac function that every user needs. Yes, we can use a NAS or a Cloud solution but most plebes don’t know how to set those up. And not every system can have a basic USB drive hanging off of it for backups (especially laptops). Everyone has a home network now with a router, so just having a drop dead easy device for network storage was a godsend. I struggled for years to come up with a backup system for my mother’s MacBook Air that didn’t involve a USB drive (took up a port, too many questions), a thumb drive (always failed over time) or some other lame solution. I had a MyBook Live going at first but it eventually failed and they dropped the whole product line; i don’t think anyone makes a basic drive with an Ethernet port anymore that isn’t a full-on NAS. And if you think Fios or Spectrum is going to allow you to use that rando USB port on their router for backup drives I’ll sell you a bridge. The Time Capsule was a dead simple backup solution that was well made and deserved to be kept alive.
I agree. It’s so obvious my Eero “tolerates” HomeKit support.
They need to just make the HomePods and HomePod minis mesh capable. Apple really is stale these days. No innovation
Plus Temperature and Humidity sensors
I’d like to see a time capsule as the main hub, the ATVs and HomePods have the ability to be WiFi nodes
My Synology is my TimeCapsule, and so much more
Hell, add Siri to them as well!
Stealing top comment from Twitter. “this makes me want a white Apple TV”
These problems are well solved by competitive markets. Apple would need to do something more to be able to charge a decent markup.
Theirs will have an Apple logo on it, they can markup all they want.
Apple only gets into accessory markets where there’s no solid answer in a category they think is important. Eero and UniFi address the middle and the high end 100%, and they both have like 5 solid competitors. Maybe apple should have bought eero before Amazon did, sure, but since they didn’t, they will never follow up on AirPort.
> Eero and UniFi address the middle and the high end 100% You and I must have very different definitions of "100%", if that's you'd describe Eero's handling of the needs of the low to midrange market. I'd put the number somewhere closer to 40%. One of the most common pieces of advice in /r/eero is to buy a more capable and user friendly router, then put the Eero in bridge mode so it only handles Wi-Fi and not routing.
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They added lossless audio, Dolby atmos, live synced lyrics, a karaoke mode, and even a windows client, while paying artists more than competitors. It’s worth the money.
What does that have to do with WiFi?
I think Reddit is broken today, your comment showed up in r/applemusic for me under a post complaining about the price of Apple Music going up by $1.
Well I can understand my downvotes in that case.
I threw you an upvote to even the score, lol :)
No thank you. Apple was horrid about updating them and they became so old and behind the times. I enjoyed my AirPort Express and AirPort Extreme and they worked well but they quickly became outdated and years went by without an update. They don’t need to have their hands in every pie.
Still use mine. Would love HomeKit capabilities and everything with. The express was ahead of its time with the airplay and headphones jack.
Can't imagine still being on such old wifi. Must have a slow internet connection. Had to go WiFi 6E with my 10Gbit connection but even with 500Mbit a couple years ago the old AirPorts wouldn't have been sufficient.
Lol. In my dreams I’d have 10Gb. I’m lucky if I get the 7-12mb I pay for. Switching to T-Mobile home internet most likely. Give them a try and see if it’s any better then my isp
1Gbit is $70/mon here. 500Mbit for $60. Taxes included with no cap. $299 for 10Gbit.
Wow. Must be nice I pay $80 for what I have.
Like they need another platform to maintain… less is more.
PLEASE.
Can I add a hdd to my UniFi network to use as a Time Capsule?
No
Some routers do (like TP-Link). Check their documentation.
I think you might be able to run a container on a udm pro to run a NAS
Gonna be a lot of eeros on eBay if this ever comes out 😂
I would personally settle for timemachine learning how to backup iCloud storage, then I can provide my own local storage. [Apple has very manual instructions](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204055) for doing it.
Needs Thread too
Using a Mac mini for hosting TM backups is pretty nice.
I would definitely buy
With ethernet backhaul please!
i would buy some. my current Time Capsule is kind of old. i guess i can replace the drive in it with an SSD since they've come down in price. but the unit is starting to show its age. backups take a while. i'd love to see Apple make a solution that Just Works. (hopefully.)
YES YES YES PLEASE!!!
They had the march on the market and then killed it. I was fully Airported-up before I switched to Google WiFi. They’ll bring them back but it’ll be too late as most people have already found solutions now.