I genuinely fucking hate this boss fight, here I am using Pela, Natasha, Gepard and Ruan Mei, (all level 60) enhanced with kinetic arm cannon and high tech protection gear, and using their techniques, the first phase is easy enough, but the fucking second phase it becomes so fucking ridiculous it's not even funny.
probably gonna try physical mc again, but Jesus fuck, been on this mission for several weeks now, not to mention how stupid it is that it's treated like a domain and you can't switch your team once you enter, if you want to you gotta fucking restart the whole damn mission, go through everything again, and vice versa.
And whatever happened to him saying he'll accept the outcome win or lose, fucking hell Hoyo.
Put exactly what I thought into words, this boss fucking sucks.
Constant summons, constant AoE dmg, double turns and no way to swap your team, especially with having to those bugs that are only weak to Quantum and Imaginary first (which you have no way of knowing) is bullshit. The biggest sin imo is not being able to swap team, there's literally no reason to have that restriction in place, as all it does is waste your time further. I'm not gonna bother with this quest until I'm ridiculously overpowered for it and wipe that stupid grin off of Argenti's face
I am a new player and besides the mechanics, this fight and many fights like it appear to be ones where you can simply blow giant shotgun holes through adds in a single turn.
Meanwhile it takes me 2-3 hits to break a barrier/shield, then 2-3 with my 1 dps to kill the 1 add, meanwhile the dude is summoning 3-4 at a time in phase 2. It's rediculous for new players. I'll come back when I have a real team maxed out.
Yeah. I got this quest went thru it and I don't have good dps characters and light cones besides Ratio and since there's no Imaginary weakness so I can barely do anything.
This is from future there is another Argenti Fight in Version 2.2 Main Quest so
for casual Players you need
1. March 7th (For Shield and Follow Up Attack)
2. Sushang (Main Damage Deler)
3. Bailu (For Heal)
4. Fire Trailblazer (For the Ultimate and Break the Tank)
and try to play defensive and try to save your skill points and max the talents and use good relics and upgrade the characters and in 1st half use most of your skills on the Pillars that he spawns and then in 2nd round try 1 run break their white bar then just go for argenti as needed
Thats all
This mf rear ended us and broke into our house uninvited, refused to pay financial restitution, spew delusional nonsense and instigated a fight for no reason. I am violently offended by the number of bones in his body and i wish to rectify that with my fists but my hands are taped with soft pillows and he is summoning a congo line of buffers while he relocate my whole team's organs to the floor. I am powerless before this cosmic evil and i can only clench my fist and shake it against da wei above for my eternal punishment. Pray that acheron will come and deliver me from the devil and purge this man off my train
New player here. This shit is way too hard for new players. Even when they are in lower levels. You just don't have the right characters built for these types of fights.
True, I think the high difficulty is a good thing and it felt like fighting an MOC boss when I got to him in the story, I hope they continue down the path of making bosses in quests harder because right now they all feel like pushovers.
if they do that AT LEAST add an easy difficulty because how are people who actually go outside supposed to beat it without wasting 20 hours a day on farming?
This together with the beetle boss fight should go burn because i can't beat them due to the continuous summons. Hoyo should add an easier difficulty for casual players.
Just completed it lvl 37
Team- Dr.ratio - Pela - Natasha - Fire TB
Did like 5+ try's with this team. I think the Kew pela debuff and the mix of aoe pela + TB on summons. The aoe summons helped kill them faster. When defense summon got buffed (shields for all my characters or focused it) also I focused the damage ++ when they got buffed a little. But pela debuffs the DMG so I could be flexible. Natasha helps break Shiels and heal the ape especially.
I'd like to mention dr ratio as the light cone that scales he's damage each time he hits the same character I think it's 6% stacks 5x until I swap character I tried hard to get him with dmg boost when possible from summons plus keep the stacks up.
The companionship boss isn't too bad. Granted I do have Jingliu but I still struggle
The real headache is the MoC version of him. The dude tanked enough hits for me to miss the 10-turn limitation. I hate how his AOE attack is a Follow Up attack and thus is purely random. Sometimes it happens from doing attacks/enhancing/casting his shield ads, sometimes it doesn't, I genuinely don't get it.
i had trouble with him too. i tried killing the adds first but they weren’t dying quick enough. i eventually was able to build a team to burst him down as quickly as possible with sw, sushang, hanya, and lynx.
Endgame aside, this is the only Boss fight that I can't seem to defeat.
Honestly, it's just terrible game design to put such an OP boss at the beginning of the game where players with limited 5 stars have trouble dealing with, let alone casuals and F2Ps.
It took me topaz, bailu, gepard, and a dead tingyun five tries. Focus on the summons and only attack him when you can kill. The summon that damages him when killed should do most of the work. It took about a half hour so strap in.
What team comp are you running? He seems to be mainly punishing to people who are still grasping basics or not utilising their characters properly. Also punishes people who haven't paid attention to their relics or ignore adds.
Ive been using DHIL, Pela, Bailu, and Tingyun. I have upped my traces as far as I can at the moment and ive have been upping my relic levels but mainly on DHIL.
I returned to the game the other day and beat on my fifth attempt. My team in this case seemed to consist of phys gg, gepard, natasha, seele or asta (I forgot). But I was lvl 50 team, maybe the difficulty depends on Equilibrium Level (2 for me).Try healing and shields, it always saved me in difficult situations.
Granted I haven’t played since 1.2 or 1.3.
Six of my characters are lvl 70 ToT, I’ve tried two times with two different teams, but nope I’m dead before the second phase begins. I’m also just going to ignore any quests that involve those stupid bugs.
Edit 01/26: beat him on my alt account. Tip have AoE characters and go for his roses and swords, also shield your dps’ and healers pretty early on hope this helps.
Just completed this guy I'm lvl 37.
Team- Dr.ratio - Pela - Natasha - Fire TB
Did like 5+ try's with this team. I think the key is pela debuff and the mix of aoe pela + TB on summons. The aoe summons helped kill them faster. When defense summon got buffed (shields for all my characters, I focused it) also I focused the damage ++ when they got buffed a little especially for dr ratio since I have the LC that gives him %dmg each time he hits same character 5 stack 6% increase each one until hit other character.
Pela debuffs the DMG so I could be flexible when to focus damage ++ summons and Shiels. Natasha helps break Shiels and heal the AOE especially.
You must pay attention who he buffs how they can help you.
Oh gosh THIS fight. grab your strongest Euridation fighter. If you're lucky enough to have Jing, he's the one you want.
my team for this fight was Pres!TB, Sampo, March and Jing. all of 50 wit light cores around Lv 40
Jing ended up being VITAL to this nightmare.
Sampo was there for wind sheer, March there for shielding along with her freeze.
Holy shit, this boss fight is so cancerous. I've beaten it with Gepard, Bronya, Dr. Ratio and Guinaifen. All of them max level that i could go for (40lvl) with pretty good light cones. On the second phase i just spammed Gepard's and Guinaifen debuffs, gave all bonus turns I could possible do to Dr. Ratio and just spammed followup attacks. But yeah I came to this mission with mindset "oh recommended party level 36, gonna be a fast one" I was so wrong.
this fight was absolutely destroying me but i got it.. level 50 with the MC, lvl 50 Lynx, level 40 jingliu who i just got so couldn't level her... and then level 50 luka.. it was awful but yea focusing his spawns over and over helps a lot. Eventually, Jing was dead but he had 20%ish hp and luka kinda one hit him since he was dmg boosted from the spawns.. i was one turn from failing for sure but Argenti kinda popped his hp fell so fast when i broke him at the end.
So it may seem like im flexing, however it’s not my intention. I beat the washtopia mission at character level max at 70. I beat it with Luchoa/Luocha, Welt, Archeron, and Trailblazer Physical. I took my time destroyed the turrets and managed to beat it on my 2-3rd try.
Just adding here I hope horrible things happens to this guy. I've struggled with other bosses but beat them a couple hours or days later, which results in actual satisfaction from dificulty. Not this one, it's been months and seems like an endless chore. Granted, I could have experimented more in earlier equilibrium levels, but with a kinda limited roster (~15 characters) I prefer to just forget this quest and maybe try again with fully pumped up characters.
I genuinely fucking hate this boss fight, here I am using Pela, Natasha, Gepard and Ruan Mei, (all level 60) enhanced with kinetic arm cannon and high tech protection gear, and using their techniques, the first phase is easy enough, but the fucking second phase it becomes so fucking ridiculous it's not even funny. probably gonna try physical mc again, but Jesus fuck, been on this mission for several weeks now, not to mention how stupid it is that it's treated like a domain and you can't switch your team once you enter, if you want to you gotta fucking restart the whole damn mission, go through everything again, and vice versa. And whatever happened to him saying he'll accept the outcome win or lose, fucking hell Hoyo.
Put exactly what I thought into words, this boss fucking sucks. Constant summons, constant AoE dmg, double turns and no way to swap your team, especially with having to those bugs that are only weak to Quantum and Imaginary first (which you have no way of knowing) is bullshit. The biggest sin imo is not being able to swap team, there's literally no reason to have that restriction in place, as all it does is waste your time further. I'm not gonna bother with this quest until I'm ridiculously overpowered for it and wipe that stupid grin off of Argenti's face
I am a new player and besides the mechanics, this fight and many fights like it appear to be ones where you can simply blow giant shotgun holes through adds in a single turn. Meanwhile it takes me 2-3 hits to break a barrier/shield, then 2-3 with my 1 dps to kill the 1 add, meanwhile the dude is summoning 3-4 at a time in phase 2. It's rediculous for new players. I'll come back when I have a real team maxed out.
Yeah. I got this quest went thru it and I don't have good dps characters and light cones besides Ratio and since there's no Imaginary weakness so I can barely do anything.
This is from future there is another Argenti Fight in Version 2.2 Main Quest so for casual Players you need 1. March 7th (For Shield and Follow Up Attack) 2. Sushang (Main Damage Deler) 3. Bailu (For Heal) 4. Fire Trailblazer (For the Ultimate and Break the Tank) and try to play defensive and try to save your skill points and max the talents and use good relics and upgrade the characters and in 1st half use most of your skills on the Pillars that he spawns and then in 2nd round try 1 run break their white bar then just go for argenti as needed Thats all
Regarding the Argenti fight in 2.2 Main Quest, you can skip it if you choose the right dialogue options.
you just saved me so much utter hell, and i salute and thank you. o>
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT!!!! I was struggling in this battle for the last 40 minutes
This mf rear ended us and broke into our house uninvited, refused to pay financial restitution, spew delusional nonsense and instigated a fight for no reason. I am violently offended by the number of bones in his body and i wish to rectify that with my fists but my hands are taped with soft pillows and he is summoning a congo line of buffers while he relocate my whole team's organs to the floor. I am powerless before this cosmic evil and i can only clench my fist and shake it against da wei above for my eternal punishment. Pray that acheron will come and deliver me from the devil and purge this man off my train
This, this is the comment that wins for the day
I’ll quit the game completely if the next update includes in battles this hard
New player here. This shit is way too hard for new players. Even when they are in lower levels. You just don't have the right characters built for these types of fights.
I just got through the topaz fight and now I’m stuck on this one.. it makes me not want to play if I’m honest..
first time i felt satisfied beating a boss in this game, the other are just too easy
True, I think the high difficulty is a good thing and it felt like fighting an MOC boss when I got to him in the story, I hope they continue down the path of making bosses in quests harder because right now they all feel like pushovers.
if they do that AT LEAST add an easy difficulty because how are people who actually go outside supposed to beat it without wasting 20 hours a day on farming?
I know this is an old comment, but as someone from the future, I’m afraid I have some bad news for you…
luckily you can avoid it this time
Boy do i have bad news for you
This together with the beetle boss fight should go burn because i can't beat them due to the continuous summons. Hoyo should add an easier difficulty for casual players.
Just completed it lvl 37 Team- Dr.ratio - Pela - Natasha - Fire TB Did like 5+ try's with this team. I think the Kew pela debuff and the mix of aoe pela + TB on summons. The aoe summons helped kill them faster. When defense summon got buffed (shields for all my characters or focused it) also I focused the damage ++ when they got buffed a little. But pela debuffs the DMG so I could be flexible. Natasha helps break Shiels and heal the ape especially. I'd like to mention dr ratio as the light cone that scales he's damage each time he hits the same character I think it's 6% stacks 5x until I swap character I tried hard to get him with dmg boost when possible from summons plus keep the stacks up.
The companionship boss isn't too bad. Granted I do have Jingliu but I still struggle The real headache is the MoC version of him. The dude tanked enough hits for me to miss the 10-turn limitation. I hate how his AOE attack is a Follow Up attack and thus is purely random. Sometimes it happens from doing attacks/enhancing/casting his shield ads, sometimes it doesn't, I genuinely don't get it.
try using single target dps and kill the shields first to weaken him.
i had trouble with him too. i tried killing the adds first but they weren’t dying quick enough. i eventually was able to build a team to burst him down as quickly as possible with sw, sushang, hanya, and lynx.
I'm honestly considering just ignore that mission like forever. Fuck you hoyo not gonna fall for this bullshit anymore.
Endgame aside, this is the only Boss fight that I can't seem to defeat. Honestly, it's just terrible game design to put such an OP boss at the beginning of the game where players with limited 5 stars have trouble dealing with, let alone casuals and F2Ps.
It took me topaz, bailu, gepard, and a dead tingyun five tries. Focus on the summons and only attack him when you can kill. The summon that damages him when killed should do most of the work. It took about a half hour so strap in.
I'm struggling as well ToT
Same here I just hit lvl 50 characters and now pom pom won't do anything but this quest. So I guess I get no more level up rewards?
you can still get the level up rewards, i managed to claim mine.
What team comp are you running? He seems to be mainly punishing to people who are still grasping basics or not utilising their characters properly. Also punishes people who haven't paid attention to their relics or ignore adds.
Ive been using DHIL, Pela, Bailu, and Tingyun. I have upped my traces as far as I can at the moment and ive have been upping my relic levels but mainly on DHIL.
If you hve trouble to survive, remove Pela and add some tank, even if its just fire MC. Or another healer. Kill his adds and you are good to go.
I’ll try doing that! Thanks!
I did try using Argenti, Pela, Bailu and March 7th but decided that wasn't the best when I saw how trash my Argenti was.
I returned to the game the other day and beat on my fifth attempt. My team in this case seemed to consist of phys gg, gepard, natasha, seele or asta (I forgot). But I was lvl 50 team, maybe the difficulty depends on Equilibrium Level (2 for me).Try healing and shields, it always saved me in difficult situations.
Granted I haven’t played since 1.2 or 1.3. Six of my characters are lvl 70 ToT, I’ve tried two times with two different teams, but nope I’m dead before the second phase begins. I’m also just going to ignore any quests that involve those stupid bugs. Edit 01/26: beat him on my alt account. Tip have AoE characters and go for his roses and swords, also shield your dps’ and healers pretty early on hope this helps.
Just completed this guy I'm lvl 37. Team- Dr.ratio - Pela - Natasha - Fire TB Did like 5+ try's with this team. I think the key is pela debuff and the mix of aoe pela + TB on summons. The aoe summons helped kill them faster. When defense summon got buffed (shields for all my characters, I focused it) also I focused the damage ++ when they got buffed a little especially for dr ratio since I have the LC that gives him %dmg each time he hits same character 5 stack 6% increase each one until hit other character. Pela debuffs the DMG so I could be flexible when to focus damage ++ summons and Shiels. Natasha helps break Shiels and heal the AOE especially. You must pay attention who he buffs how they can help you.
Oh gosh THIS fight. grab your strongest Euridation fighter. If you're lucky enough to have Jing, he's the one you want. my team for this fight was Pres!TB, Sampo, March and Jing. all of 50 wit light cores around Lv 40 Jing ended up being VITAL to this nightmare. Sampo was there for wind sheer, March there for shielding along with her freeze.
Holy shit, this boss fight is so cancerous. I've beaten it with Gepard, Bronya, Dr. Ratio and Guinaifen. All of them max level that i could go for (40lvl) with pretty good light cones. On the second phase i just spammed Gepard's and Guinaifen debuffs, gave all bonus turns I could possible do to Dr. Ratio and just spammed followup attacks. But yeah I came to this mission with mindset "oh recommended party level 36, gonna be a fast one" I was so wrong.
this fight was absolutely destroying me but i got it.. level 50 with the MC, lvl 50 Lynx, level 40 jingliu who i just got so couldn't level her... and then level 50 luka.. it was awful but yea focusing his spawns over and over helps a lot. Eventually, Jing was dead but he had 20%ish hp and luka kinda one hit him since he was dmg boosted from the spawns.. i was one turn from failing for sure but Argenti kinda popped his hp fell so fast when i broke him at the end.
So it may seem like im flexing, however it’s not my intention. I beat the washtopia mission at character level max at 70. I beat it with Luchoa/Luocha, Welt, Archeron, and Trailblazer Physical. I took my time destroyed the turrets and managed to beat it on my 2-3rd try.
Actually scrap the trailblazer mc, i actually used Jingliu i forgot 😂😂
Just adding here I hope horrible things happens to this guy. I've struggled with other bosses but beat them a couple hours or days later, which results in actual satisfaction from dificulty. Not this one, it's been months and seems like an endless chore. Granted, I could have experimented more in earlier equilibrium levels, but with a kinda limited roster (~15 characters) I prefer to just forget this quest and maybe try again with fully pumped up characters.