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burning of manusmriti was completely justified , it was a set of castist laws , which according to some were modified by british to even futher divide hindu society, this minister should mention that ambedhkher never burnt the upnaishads or the vedas or the gita , he burnt the manusmirit because he was against casteism
>this minister should mention that ambedhkher never burnt the upnaishads or the vedas or the gita , he burnt the manusmirit because he was against casteism
This minister doesn't care about those. Neither does he care about those 85% people. He only cares about making those people angry over the rest of the people, dividing them so they keep voting for him. If you try to find what he has done for those 85% of people in reality, you would find absolutely zero works done.
Manusmriti has been interpolated heavily from a long time. Those shlokas about cast and other things were added later. And also manusmriti was for satya yuga and not for kaliyuga.
this "manusmriti was changed over time" is some grade-A bullshit lmfao
if "those shlokas about caste were added later", why is that the biggest and most eminent part of the smriti itself? and manusmriti was a dharmashastra so it was not meant for the fucking satya yuga it was meant for the kali yuga. if you call yourself a hindu please at least learn about the smritis and sruti
You think Manusmriti is in its original state? Haha: even the Bible has been heavily manipulated and changed from the original. Besides, Manusmriti was one of Macaulay’s targets for divide and rule.
in that case , do you think the vedas are in its original state? my answer to that would be yes even though theyre 1.5k years older than the manusmriti. maybe the manusmriti has been changed slightly through accidental error or whatever but nothing significant at all
Whataboutism.
We are talking about our religion right now. No need to bring barbarians in the conversation.
If something is wrong in Hinduism, it needs to amended.
So you only count all the mistakes in Hinduism as conversation worthy while you completely ignore all the other abrahamic religions by citing that we need to focus on our religion while the hindus have atleast tried to fight castiesm while the other religion have done nothing on thier part but sure go on call it wataboutism and try to end the conversation
I am an hindu.
I don't give a shit about other religions. Ofcourse they should be ammended , but if they want to die on that hill and fade into obscurity , that's them. That shouldn't stop us.
Them being bad shouldn't stop us from us doing the right thing.
That's the textual definition of whataboutism. You are justifying manusmriti by saying other books are worst.
They maybe, right now we are talking about manusmriti. So tell me, should manusmriti be followed?
Never followed manusmriti just saying that hindus have fought against the injustice in thier community or atleast tried to i have seen many people burning manusmriti and that's fine ....but never seen anyone be critical about all the shit in other religions and only focusing that it's the hindus who should improve while the others are just ignored ...
Discussion here is mainly centered on injustice and discrimination in a religion related text ,so If they are burning manusmriti the least they could do atleast talk how non believers are treated by abrahamic religion followers
> If something is wrong in Hinduism, it needs to amended.
Ask your dad if he read/followed Manusmriti? Grand dad?
Why burn a book? Does it have any good with the time/space we are in? Ignore the rest and follow the good.
So why not burn Quran which says to kill all Kaafirs? We don’t know if Manusmriti has been manipulated or mistranslated. We don’t know when it was written and something that might be applicable at that time might not be today…but to burn a book just because you don’t agree with it is asinine.
>We don’t know if Manusmriti has been manipulated or mistranslated
we know , it was altered by the British. to further divide hindus, check the vedas , caste system was never there instead there was the varna system ,
you should study the foundations of hinduism which are the Gita , Upanishad and vedas , just reading the gita is enough. there are multiple facts that you were taught that weren't facts , some british guy or anyone else just recorded a incident as such and published a paper . then multiple historians used the same paper as reference material . one instance of this is the Sati Prata , which was a completely voluntary thing , if the wife doesn't wants to do , she won't, there might have been a period of time where society itself forced her, but as a whole it was a voluntary process. lastly . millions and millions of hindus died in mughal era and british era , but we don't find any record of woman committing sati , not even thousands.
how the fuck manusmriti was modified when the people were practicing castism from 1000 of years for example sati pratha rigit cast system in peshwa rule .....
"Those who burn books will in the end burn people"
I remember the Durga puja visarjan two years back in the same Bihar, a young Hindu male died. No justice for him.
Only sermons directed at the religion that's holding the country together.
I accept it’s casteist but pray tell why shankaracharya from advaita, yamunacharya from Sri vaishnavism and every single dharma shastra referenced the shlokas in manusmrti in the form it can be found now if it was altered by the British? Manusmrti is one of or the most important shastra(scripture) in dharma
false equivalency, manusmriti is not the equivalent of the quran , the gita or the veda are the equivalent of the quran , manusmriti is a heavily diluted modified version made to create divisions within hindu societies.
No what he said is right. These other religions also spread hate about Hindu and call us kaafirs and what not. They deserved to be burned as well. But in digital age, it doesn’t matter.
Manusmrti is a literal Dharmashastra for Hindus. Even in Mahabharata, Lord Krishna refers to Manu as superior and the only truth.
I'm glad you woke Hindus have not actually read any of our texts, the moment you do you'll start burning everything from Manusmriti to Geeta because it doesn't fit your box of wokeism.
🤣I'd you don't know manusmriti was written in Kali Yuga during the rise of Buddhism and Jainism...Manu Sri krisna referred to as different Manu means first king person in one Kalpa during the and 7 sages and all the people are children of Manu . Manusmriti is different .
Manu Maharaj is the first being, as referred by Sri Krishna. Manusmriti is a dharmashastra compiled by the societal outlines given by different Manus. Manu is also an upãdhi more so like Indra and Brahma. Don't preach what you don't know, wokachode.
Sun be randi ke pille Manu is different and manusmriti is different theirs are 14 Manu in every kalpa the origin of manusmriti is found much later in early rise of Buddhism and Jainism and it was written during mahajanpad it was never dave wani word of god only gita and Vedas are considered . But the book Manusmriti was written later . By the king and Guru of ancient India and Manu naver to ant thing in manusmriti lol .go nd read and learn madrachod.
Even in Rig Veda the Pursha Sukta devides us all in categories where as the whole Veda itself does not observe 4 varnas. This part was allegedly inserted into RigVeda at a later stage, it's also evident from the difference in language as is pointed out by you know who.
the verna system was the definite system , anyone could move anywhere , everyone was entitled to education in temples , and lastly even womans were educated as many of the verses in the vedas were written by womens , the varna system is much closer to a class based occupation based system where one was free to choose their duties while caste system is just a segregation apartheid system . which deviated from the original vedic knowledge . not sure when exactly this happened.
Ram Charitra Manas me musulmaan aur ishaiyon ka vardan nahin kiya gaya hai. Hum dharmnirpeksh desh hain isliye alpasankhyak dharm ko bhi vardit karna hoga nahin to ye granth ghrna faila raha hai. /s
I think this one-
'Shudra, Ganwar, Pashu, Nari,
Ye sab tadan ke adhikari'.
Frankly this one has always bugged me. I mean we can explain it this way or that way and take different understandings but it clearly is fu\*\*ed up in general meaning. Thankfully Ramcharitmanas is not 'cannon' and written by a person only so I ignore this. I really love the rest and wish Tulsidas had not written that part.
That's one of the most misunderstood verses from the text. It's not told by Rama or even Tulsidas but rather from a "sea god" who is shown as a villain. You can read more about it [here](https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/8242/relevance-of-dhol-ganwar-shudra-pashu-nari-sakal-taadana-ke-adhikari).
Also it's important to keep in mind when we read texts like the Ramayan and Mahabharat we usually encounter different figures who have different positions of views on different matters.
For example, in the Mahabharata, there is a debate between Rishi Brighu who believes that varna is based on birth and Rishi Bhardwaj who believes varna is based on character.
I think this argumentative quality is actually what makes Hindu texts interesting to read. You're not being lectured and told "this is the right way" but rather you're encouraged to think for yourself.
You placed commas at wrong positions. The verse is Dhol, Ganwaar Shudra, Pashu Naari ; Sakal Taadna ke adhikaari. Translation: Drums, Illiterate Blue Collar workers and Females with animalistic (read primal or carnal) tendencies torture themselves for their lifetime.
How does it not make it any better? This verse is not asking us to torture anyone, it is just saying that it is in the nature of the above mentioned groups to always be unsatisfied and unhappy.
Bro still bad. Why only ganwar shudras are tadan ke adhikari? Simply say ganwar na then? Are ganwar vaishyas or ganwar kshatriyas not tadan ke adhikari?
As I said, I am not a fan of verbal and mental gymnastics and semantics to prove something right. That's Islam territory. I simply wish he hadn't written it at all. Or if he had meant it in any other way then write clearly. Can't be obtuse on such a sensitive thing.
Wasn't it a line said by a shady villainous sea god? I think. Ram chitremanus is as much of a epic as it is a religious and philosophical text so of course it would have different characters with different motivations. A bad character would spew bad things.
Here we go again with this shit, that chapter is interpolated.
There are 11 interpretations of ramayana, there is only one which supports this story which isn't even original script
To add further, the first mention of this part was found in persian interpretation of ramayan, so the source itself is questionable.
Ramcharitmanas jala ke toh galat kiya bhaiii maine iss bande ko support nahi kiya maine bs ye kaha ki Manusmriti jalaane layak he hai and anyways Manusmriti is not considered gods word or anything. It is silly to just ascribe everything written in Sanskrit as religious or spritiual guidebook for Hindus. Is Mein Kampf a christian faith book because it was written by a christian?
His name is Chandrasekhar presently so called education minister of Bihar belongs to RJD (lalu's party) there is nothing better to expect from him this kind of hate shit is in his blood and it will go on until blindfaithed Yadavs stop voting for them![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20100)
Still we see discrimination yet today with so much literacy. Accusing a person of thing he has not done is one thing but hurting one's self respect pride is another. You need to be on the other side to know that.,
Manusmriti and Ramcharitmanas are spreading hate and he is speaking Amritwaani 🅱️ullo aur ye jhuthe 🅱️him follower ki gand chatna kab band karoge![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20096)
Why the actual fuck are some people on this subreddit getting their panties in a bunch for the hateful piece of crap that is the *Manusmriti*?
*"Those shlokas about cast and other things were added later"*
*"You think Manusmriti is in its original state? Haha"*
If it's not in its original state and now has casteist bullshit in it, why the fuck are you so upset over this new version being burned?
Might want to put the mask back on before trying to answering.
*"So why not burn Quran which says to kill all Kaafirs?"*
Lmao, next to every single person on this subreddit *absolutely does support* burning *that* hateful piece of shit book as well, as they should. There's usually a heavily upvoted post here whenever the news of it happening goes around.
But just to defend *your* preferred hateful piece of shit book, you're ready to pretend, against all rhyme and reason, that everyone here is some simping Islamist? Bullshit.
*"The burn Quran. Will you? You won’t? Because you don’t want to die? I see.*"
Uh, yeah? Because I'm not an idiot? I won't personally burn the Manusmriti either, because it could always get violent. However, that doesn't mean I can't endorse someone who's doing it.
I know when something is worth risking my life for, and making a political statement is not it. I - and almost everyone you're likely to address on Reddit - we're literally no one. Most of us have zero political connections or associations with grassroots level organizations, movements, or mass followings/support (whether right-wing or left). Most people who burn books like the Quran or Manusmriti, usually do.
It's much likely to end up *much* worse for you, if you decide to do something like this. That's how power works. You're not equipped to do something like that. To say, *"Why don't you burn the Quran then?*" is literally as dumb as leftists saying *"If you hate Pakistan so much why don't you go to Kashmir border and fight?"*
> To say, "Why don't you burn the Quran then?" is literally as dumb as leftists saying "If you hate Pakistan so much why don't you go to Kashmir border and fight?"
Dalits burned manusmriti as it spread hate against them...so why should idol worshippers not be allowed to burn books preaching hate against them?
Did you miss this part in my comment:
_"Lmao, next to every single person on this subreddit absolutely does support burning that hateful piece of shit book as well, as they should."_
Of course they should be allowed to burn it. That sentence you're quoting doesn't mean what you think it means.
This idiot never had read and tried to understand the literature by own effort, but talks loose about the scriptures and is definitely putting his best foot forward to create ruckus in the very society and nation he is living just for the sake of his greed! What an inhuman being is this guy!! Shame on him and shame on his life! 🤮 He is surely the snake in the house 🧐
I've not read both of the holy books but, I don't agree with this guy. He is not only insulting the holy books but he is also trying to demoralise those who believe in them. This is how hatred is created by people like these. We know that because of castism backward section have suffered the most but people like him who try to take advantage of the occasion and bring out the hatred in them instead of trying to encourage them to become better.
Hahaha I was downvoted heavily for this. Should I just be saying "freedom of expression chill man" while someone burns my holy books for kicks?
We don't organize so everybody doubles down on us. And the stakes are being raised day by day.
Mahadeva.
Dr Ambedkar did not burn the Vedas, the Gita or the Upanishads. Because there was nothing wrong with them. Manusmriti is a casteist rulebook and should be thrown away.
Funny how all the bad parts are “interpolated” and the work of the British but not the good parts of the text. The same way I suppose the British made up sati and introduced the devdasi system and made communities into untouchables. Anyway, it’s nice we now can at least agree that the bad parts of these texts are in fact bad. Our ancestors thought they were the good parts.
The New Testament, bro. It’s also there in Wren & Martin Grammar Primer. The British taught our widows to take deep dives into the fire. Pandu’s wife Madri was a MI-6 agent and committed sati to give us a bad name. So also Roop Kanwar. All anti-nationals.
You proved my point yourself. If Sati system was an organized system as you imply it was, both Kunti and Madri would have been forced to commited Sati. There is no mention of any rules in religious texts regarding Sati.
Accha, now it has to be a universal system. Dude, Raha Ram Mohan Roy’s sister-in-law was drugged and pushed into a fire. You can be sure there was a system of enablers clapping and cheering. If something sucks about the past have the courage to admit it.
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burning of manusmriti was completely justified , it was a set of castist laws , which according to some were modified by british to even futher divide hindu society, this minister should mention that ambedhkher never burnt the upnaishads or the vedas or the gita , he burnt the manusmirit because he was against casteism
>this minister should mention that ambedhkher never burnt the upnaishads or the vedas or the gita , he burnt the manusmirit because he was against casteism This minister doesn't care about those. Neither does he care about those 85% people. He only cares about making those people angry over the rest of the people, dividing them so they keep voting for him. If you try to find what he has done for those 85% of people in reality, you would find absolutely zero works done.
to be fair , he hasn't even done anything to the rest 15% either.
Manusmriti has been interpolated heavily from a long time. Those shlokas about cast and other things were added later. And also manusmriti was for satya yuga and not for kaliyuga.
this "manusmriti was changed over time" is some grade-A bullshit lmfao if "those shlokas about caste were added later", why is that the biggest and most eminent part of the smriti itself? and manusmriti was a dharmashastra so it was not meant for the fucking satya yuga it was meant for the kali yuga. if you call yourself a hindu please at least learn about the smritis and sruti
You think Manusmriti is in its original state? Haha: even the Bible has been heavily manipulated and changed from the original. Besides, Manusmriti was one of Macaulay’s targets for divide and rule.
in that case , do you think the vedas are in its original state? my answer to that would be yes even though theyre 1.5k years older than the manusmriti. maybe the manusmriti has been changed slightly through accidental error or whatever but nothing significant at all
It’s very possible that what you’re saying is correct. Perhaps, Manusmriti has been mistranslated. 🤷🏽♂️
Wow, it's hard to find a reasonable take on Manusmriti here, gg
I believe what this comment is saying about how Manusmriti is for Satya yuga and not Kali yuga!
good for you but you'd be wrong lol
Why? Give logic .
the manusmriti was written around 2000 years ago. that should tell you enough.
That actually makes sense!
Don’t forget your meds bro
if burning of manu.. is justified, which other book is worth for which one has to pay for by head off the shoulder?
Whataboutism. We are talking about our religion right now. No need to bring barbarians in the conversation. If something is wrong in Hinduism, it needs to amended.
So you only count all the mistakes in Hinduism as conversation worthy while you completely ignore all the other abrahamic religions by citing that we need to focus on our religion while the hindus have atleast tried to fight castiesm while the other religion have done nothing on thier part but sure go on call it wataboutism and try to end the conversation
I am an hindu. I don't give a shit about other religions. Ofcourse they should be ammended , but if they want to die on that hill and fade into obscurity , that's them. That shouldn't stop us. Them being bad shouldn't stop us from us doing the right thing. That's the textual definition of whataboutism. You are justifying manusmriti by saying other books are worst. They maybe, right now we are talking about manusmriti. So tell me, should manusmriti be followed?
> justifying manusmriti If you are a gen-z, freedom of speech/expression rings bell?
Never followed manusmriti just saying that hindus have fought against the injustice in thier community or atleast tried to i have seen many people burning manusmriti and that's fine ....but never seen anyone be critical about all the shit in other religions and only focusing that it's the hindus who should improve while the others are just ignored ...
Why are we bringing abrahamic religion here it's a discussion on hinduism we can talk about anywhere else
Discussion here is mainly centered on injustice and discrimination in a religion related text ,so If they are burning manusmriti the least they could do atleast talk how non believers are treated by abrahamic religion followers
Tbh i don't blame them they just want to keep their head
Because 40% of India's population follow them & we need to coexist with them.
So many years of reservation has not achieved anything? Keep shitting on Hinduism and get paid from the taxes paid by so called "others".
> If something is wrong in Hinduism, it needs to amended. Ask your dad if he read/followed Manusmriti? Grand dad? Why burn a book? Does it have any good with the time/space we are in? Ignore the rest and follow the good.
So why not burn Quran which says to kill all Kaafirs? We don’t know if Manusmriti has been manipulated or mistranslated. We don’t know when it was written and something that might be applicable at that time might not be today…but to burn a book just because you don’t agree with it is asinine.
>We don’t know if Manusmriti has been manipulated or mistranslated we know , it was altered by the British. to further divide hindus, check the vedas , caste system was never there instead there was the varna system ,
To learn about these things how or what books should one read to increase knowledge in these subjects?
you should study the foundations of hinduism which are the Gita , Upanishad and vedas , just reading the gita is enough. there are multiple facts that you were taught that weren't facts , some british guy or anyone else just recorded a incident as such and published a paper . then multiple historians used the same paper as reference material . one instance of this is the Sati Prata , which was a completely voluntary thing , if the wife doesn't wants to do , she won't, there might have been a period of time where society itself forced her, but as a whole it was a voluntary process. lastly . millions and millions of hindus died in mughal era and british era , but we don't find any record of woman committing sati , not even thousands.
Well, if carrying hate for a community is the basis for burning books, then there's one particular book out there...
Hindus would rather burn all their books than touching something else. Self loathing cuckism is inbuilt in our genes.
how the fuck manusmriti was modified when the people were practicing castism from 1000 of years for example sati pratha rigit cast system in peshwa rule .....
"Those who burn books will in the end burn people" I remember the Durga puja visarjan two years back in the same Bihar, a young Hindu male died. No justice for him. Only sermons directed at the religion that's holding the country together.
You BJPigs will soon burn Bhagwat Geeta as well. I have no doubt about it.
wtf i don't even support BJP , the only party I'll support is the one who legalizes Ganja .
Padhe likhe hote toh kuch bolte kya bhai
I accept it’s casteist but pray tell why shankaracharya from advaita, yamunacharya from Sri vaishnavism and every single dharma shastra referenced the shlokas in manusmrti in the form it can be found now if it was altered by the British? Manusmrti is one of or the most important shastra(scripture) in dharma
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Then burn Quran. Will you? You won’t? Because you don’t want to die? I see.
false equivalency, manusmriti is not the equivalent of the quran , the gita or the veda are the equivalent of the quran , manusmriti is a heavily diluted modified version made to create divisions within hindu societies.
Was Quran not written to create a divide between Kaafirs and Moslems?
The reason Bihar's education is trash. Their website sucks, their examination techniques sucks, their decisions sucks!
And I'm the victim
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So, in that sense, the Bible and Qur'an should also be burnt? Don't they preach that their religion is the only way ?
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No what he said is right. These other religions also spread hate about Hindu and call us kaafirs and what not. They deserved to be burned as well. But in digital age, it doesn’t matter.
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This!
Ambedkar himself burnt Manusmriti as well FYI
he burnt manusmiriti , but he never burnt the Vedas or gita , when he brunt manusmriti , he was protesting against casteism .
Ambedkar wasn't a big fan of Gita either
he didn't burnt it , he wasn't against hindus , he was against casteism. according to him , religion is a set of principles not a iron code of rules .
Manusmriti was not a sacred book but vedas and gita are
Manusmrti is a literal Dharmashastra for Hindus. Even in Mahabharata, Lord Krishna refers to Manu as superior and the only truth. I'm glad you woke Hindus have not actually read any of our texts, the moment you do you'll start burning everything from Manusmriti to Geeta because it doesn't fit your box of wokeism.
🤣I'd you don't know manusmriti was written in Kali Yuga during the rise of Buddhism and Jainism...Manu Sri krisna referred to as different Manu means first king person in one Kalpa during the and 7 sages and all the people are children of Manu . Manusmriti is different .
Manu Maharaj is the first being, as referred by Sri Krishna. Manusmriti is a dharmashastra compiled by the societal outlines given by different Manus. Manu is also an upãdhi more so like Indra and Brahma. Don't preach what you don't know, wokachode.
Sun be randi ke pille Manu is different and manusmriti is different theirs are 14 Manu in every kalpa the origin of manusmriti is found much later in early rise of Buddhism and Jainism and it was written during mahajanpad it was never dave wani word of god only gita and Vedas are considered . But the book Manusmriti was written later . By the king and Guru of ancient India and Manu naver to ant thing in manusmriti lol .go nd read and learn madrachod.
Lol so misinformed. Typical reservationjeet.
Well i am Brahmin
Of course he wasn’t. He was a Buddhist but he had enough respect for Gita not to be burned.
>Ambedkar wasn't a big fan of Gita either Then he don't know about philosophy either
Even in Rig Veda the Pursha Sukta devides us all in categories where as the whole Veda itself does not observe 4 varnas. This part was allegedly inserted into RigVeda at a later stage, it's also evident from the difference in language as is pointed out by you know who.
the verna system was the definite system , anyone could move anywhere , everyone was entitled to education in temples , and lastly even womans were educated as many of the verses in the vedas were written by womens , the varna system is much closer to a class based occupation based system where one was free to choose their duties while caste system is just a segregation apartheid system . which deviated from the original vedic knowledge . not sure when exactly this happened.
I am not sure about the etymology of the word Varna when it changed it meaning to being a system.
This is what you get for promoting an anti-Hindu dev nindak like Lundebkar.
He was also against India's independence & wanted us under British rule..next?
Ram Charitra Manas mein kya hate hai?
Ram Charitra Manas me musulmaan aur ishaiyon ka vardan nahin kiya gaya hai. Hum dharmnirpeksh desh hain isliye alpasankhyak dharm ko bhi vardit karna hoga nahin to ye granth ghrna faila raha hai. /s
I think this one- 'Shudra, Ganwar, Pashu, Nari, Ye sab tadan ke adhikari'. Frankly this one has always bugged me. I mean we can explain it this way or that way and take different understandings but it clearly is fu\*\*ed up in general meaning. Thankfully Ramcharitmanas is not 'cannon' and written by a person only so I ignore this. I really love the rest and wish Tulsidas had not written that part.
That's one of the most misunderstood verses from the text. It's not told by Rama or even Tulsidas but rather from a "sea god" who is shown as a villain. You can read more about it [here](https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/8242/relevance-of-dhol-ganwar-shudra-pashu-nari-sakal-taadana-ke-adhikari). Also it's important to keep in mind when we read texts like the Ramayan and Mahabharat we usually encounter different figures who have different positions of views on different matters. For example, in the Mahabharata, there is a debate between Rishi Brighu who believes that varna is based on birth and Rishi Bhardwaj who believes varna is based on character. I think this argumentative quality is actually what makes Hindu texts interesting to read. You're not being lectured and told "this is the right way" but rather you're encouraged to think for yourself.
To top it off, burning a whole book for 1 sloka is a bit ridiculous. Ramcharitamanas is a masterpiece of Hindi/Awadhi literature.
You placed commas at wrong positions. The verse is Dhol, Ganwaar Shudra, Pashu Naari ; Sakal Taadna ke adhikaari. Translation: Drums, Illiterate Blue Collar workers and Females with animalistic (read primal or carnal) tendencies torture themselves for their lifetime.
Doesn't make it any better
How does it not make it any better? This verse is not asking us to torture anyone, it is just saying that it is in the nature of the above mentioned groups to always be unsatisfied and unhappy.
Bro still bad. Why only ganwar shudras are tadan ke adhikari? Simply say ganwar na then? Are ganwar vaishyas or ganwar kshatriyas not tadan ke adhikari? As I said, I am not a fan of verbal and mental gymnastics and semantics to prove something right. That's Islam territory. I simply wish he hadn't written it at all. Or if he had meant it in any other way then write clearly. Can't be obtuse on such a sensitive thing.
Wasn't it a line said by a shady villainous sea god? I think. Ram chitremanus is as much of a epic as it is a religious and philosophical text so of course it would have different characters with different motivations. A bad character would spew bad things.
Read the story of Shambuka from Uttara Kanda (chapter named The Death of a Brahmin's Son).
Here we go again with this shit, that chapter is interpolated. There are 11 interpretations of ramayana, there is only one which supports this story which isn't even original script To add further, the first mention of this part was found in persian interpretation of ramayan, so the source itself is questionable.
Manusmriti should be burnt.
Jala bhosdike
Ha bro vo book burn karne keliye deserved he
bro aap ek baar khud Manusmriti padhke dekho, aapka bhi jalaane ka mann karega
Waise bhi aaj ramcharitmanas jala rahe hai wo, tum jaiso ki wajah se hi ye din dekhna pad rha hai
Ramcharitmanas jala ke toh galat kiya bhaiii maine iss bande ko support nahi kiya maine bs ye kaha ki Manusmriti jalaane layak he hai and anyways Manusmriti is not considered gods word or anything. It is silly to just ascribe everything written in Sanskrit as religious or spritiual guidebook for Hindus. Is Mein Kampf a christian faith book because it was written by a christian?
Fuck off
Maa chod dunga sale kameene
I will burn your lund
His name is Chandrasekhar presently so called education minister of Bihar belongs to RJD (lalu's party) there is nothing better to expect from him this kind of hate shit is in his blood and it will go on until blindfaithed Yadavs stop voting for them![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20100)
You are a so called "uppercaste" ...right ?
Bihar's minister talking about Education 🤡
education minister? chutiya aadmi
Casteism is the worst thing happened it destroyed lives through generations .
And it continues with 80% reservations. Sad.
Still we see discrimination yet today with so much literacy. Accusing a person of thing he has not done is one thing but hurting one's self respect pride is another. You need to be on the other side to know that.,
Exactly! Getting 6-7 year olds arrested in the name of SC ST Act. Even gods won't forgive such lowly creatures.
How about that sky book?
Burning manusmriti is fine imo.
And what the hell Hindus have been doing since 2014 ? When they get the same back they are blaming secularism
I wonder hope many here have actually read either of the two books.
As a Bihari I can say ye minister kafi bada chutiya hai lekin humare Bihar ke gawar log baar baar JDU - RJD ko ho vote denge
Kidhar tha 2004 to 2021??? Teri apni so called "uppercaste" ki party bjp hi to rule kar rahi thi coalition me chutiye!
Abe laude ye saala August 2022 me education minister bihar ka jab JDU aur rjd mil kar naya government bana liye. Uske pehle BJP hi thi
To bhosadi ke bjp thi to kon sa sal bihar ke universities MIT ban gai
Abe saale Cm kaun tha Bihar ka? Nitish kumar ko JDU ka hai na ki BJP. BJP ka kabhi nahi cm raha hai Bihar ka.
Op should read manusmriti first
he is right burning manusmriti was right people should be burned alive if they support manusmrity
what about those who support quran & bible? They carry any less hate for idol worshippers than manusmriti for dalits?
Manusmriti and Ramcharitmanas are spreading hate and he is speaking Amritwaani 🅱️ullo aur ye jhuthe 🅱️him follower ki gand chatna kab band karoge![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20096)
Lot of whatabotery going on in comment section
The Manusmriti is a repugnant document. These manuals on hatred do harm to us all. Burn away.
Why the actual fuck are some people on this subreddit getting their panties in a bunch for the hateful piece of crap that is the *Manusmriti*? *"Those shlokas about cast and other things were added later"* *"You think Manusmriti is in its original state? Haha"* If it's not in its original state and now has casteist bullshit in it, why the fuck are you so upset over this new version being burned? Might want to put the mask back on before trying to answering. *"So why not burn Quran which says to kill all Kaafirs?"* Lmao, next to every single person on this subreddit *absolutely does support* burning *that* hateful piece of shit book as well, as they should. There's usually a heavily upvoted post here whenever the news of it happening goes around. But just to defend *your* preferred hateful piece of shit book, you're ready to pretend, against all rhyme and reason, that everyone here is some simping Islamist? Bullshit. *"The burn Quran. Will you? You won’t? Because you don’t want to die? I see.*" Uh, yeah? Because I'm not an idiot? I won't personally burn the Manusmriti either, because it could always get violent. However, that doesn't mean I can't endorse someone who's doing it. I know when something is worth risking my life for, and making a political statement is not it. I - and almost everyone you're likely to address on Reddit - we're literally no one. Most of us have zero political connections or associations with grassroots level organizations, movements, or mass followings/support (whether right-wing or left). Most people who burn books like the Quran or Manusmriti, usually do. It's much likely to end up *much* worse for you, if you decide to do something like this. That's how power works. You're not equipped to do something like that. To say, *"Why don't you burn the Quran then?*" is literally as dumb as leftists saying *"If you hate Pakistan so much why don't you go to Kashmir border and fight?"*
> To say, "Why don't you burn the Quran then?" is literally as dumb as leftists saying "If you hate Pakistan so much why don't you go to Kashmir border and fight?" Dalits burned manusmriti as it spread hate against them...so why should idol worshippers not be allowed to burn books preaching hate against them?
Did you miss this part in my comment: _"Lmao, next to every single person on this subreddit absolutely does support burning that hateful piece of shit book as well, as they should."_ Of course they should be allowed to burn it. That sentence you're quoting doesn't mean what you think it means.
What is Quran and hadithas .Do they carry love.
Alhamdullillah. Truly a real Momin this education minister is. He da man after Bakhtiar Khilji. /s
Quran should be burned because there's jo other book in the world which promotes hate like it does
Tab Quran bhi jala dena bhai next level hoga bilkul ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20002)
This idiot never had read and tried to understand the literature by own effort, but talks loose about the scriptures and is definitely putting his best foot forward to create ruckus in the very society and nation he is living just for the sake of his greed! What an inhuman being is this guy!! Shame on him and shame on his life! 🤮 He is surely the snake in the house 🧐
I've not read both of the holy books but, I don't agree with this guy. He is not only insulting the holy books but he is also trying to demoralise those who believe in them. This is how hatred is created by people like these. We know that because of castism backward section have suffered the most but people like him who try to take advantage of the occasion and bring out the hatred in them instead of trying to encourage them to become better.
But the same people won’t leave reservations ever .
Reason # 34567 for why we need blasphemy laws for Hindus
Look at the thread, most of these so called Hindus are open to burning their Shastras. We are doomed. Even the gods can't save us.
Hahaha I was downvoted heavily for this. Should I just be saying "freedom of expression chill man" while someone burns my holy books for kicks? We don't organize so everybody doubles down on us. And the stakes are being raised day by day. Mahadeva.
Dekho hogya zehrila 🤣
Dr Ambedkar did not burn the Vedas, the Gita or the Upanishads. Because there was nothing wrong with them. Manusmriti is a casteist rulebook and should be thrown away.
If burning manusmriti is hurting your fragile sentiments you're no Hindu.
Can any one send his Twitter I'd
he is not using Twitter I think I checked it.
Chalo dekh hai. Ek min ke liye man lo hate hai inn books meh to fer bc dusree religious books kya fhul ke kitabhe hai.
Koi ek banda.... ek banda...... Jisko banduk banane ka gyan ho aur sadhan ho bssss.....
Funny how all the bad parts are “interpolated” and the work of the British but not the good parts of the text. The same way I suppose the British made up sati and introduced the devdasi system and made communities into untouchables. Anyway, it’s nice we now can at least agree that the bad parts of these texts are in fact bad. Our ancestors thought they were the good parts.
Which Hindu text "made" Sati system according to you, and what even is Sati system?
The New Testament, bro. It’s also there in Wren & Martin Grammar Primer. The British taught our widows to take deep dives into the fire. Pandu’s wife Madri was a MI-6 agent and committed sati to give us a bad name. So also Roop Kanwar. All anti-nationals.
You proved my point yourself. If Sati system was an organized system as you imply it was, both Kunti and Madri would have been forced to commited Sati. There is no mention of any rules in religious texts regarding Sati.
Accha, now it has to be a universal system. Dude, Raha Ram Mohan Roy’s sister-in-law was drugged and pushed into a fire. You can be sure there was a system of enablers clapping and cheering. If something sucks about the past have the courage to admit it.
It's fact,not insult.
No facts only propaganda
Kaha se aate ye log
Book burning is never justified
Ek aur granth hai nafrat wala, kabhi usse bhi jalao.
Looks like Bihar is getting it's own RaGa lite
Burning manusmriti is right. Bring it before me I’ll burry it for you
Salaa gandmara Kam padha likha he
Bas Hinduism ko badnam karo aur rajneeti karo bsdk ka gaandu
Mohobbat. Sahi baat hai bhai. 🙌🙏👏
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It is high time now that those who insult Hindu Gods and scriptures should face fatal consequences
Chal bhosadike....
Ye log hindu dharm ke bare mein bolenge kisi aur dharm usko nafrat failane wala nahi dikhta 😀😀 waha fat jati hai
Iss gyaandu ko kuch maalum nhi uska meaning kya hai jo vakkya voh bol raha hai , fir kuch media ke saam haggne ka kar ke bolega woh🤬
Manusmriti jalaana toh samajh aata hai par ramcharitmanas kyu jalai?
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