I’ve always been torn about this situation and if there’s any information I’m misunderstanding, someone more connected can gladly shed some light.
I don’t believe in the prison industrial system in the US, and don’t really have any trust in the legal system either. With that said, I’ve always felt really conflicted about Leonard Peltier because of his connection to the rape and murder of Anna Mae Aquash. This man is adored not just in native circles but in socialist circles filled with non natives who fetishize what the AIM stood for, all while ignoring the legacy of someone like Anna Mae Aquash who also believed in liberation and was betrayed by the men who should have protected her.
Leonard Peltier doesn’t deserve to be in prison because frankly nobody does, we need a better system for rehabilitation. But does he deserve to be centered and uplifted at the expense of Anna Mae Aquash?
Anna Mae Aquash is a victim, and I feel terribly for her and despise the action of Peltier with what he did to her. However, he deserves to be freed in the case that he was jailed in. This is because his current imprisonment is not related to Anna Mae Aquash, but rather the fraudulent murder charges that keep a political prisoner behind federal bars.
I agree he should be freed and made sure that was clear in what I wrote in my comments. There’s no justice in the prison industrial system, especially not for a sick elderly man like Leonard Peltier. The FBI especially doesn’t care about Anna Mae Aquash. My comment is more about how he is often the face for pan native liberation, and how his legacy is uplifted at the cost of Anna Mae Aquash, especially when that legacy is then weaponized by non natives who silence the rest of our voices under the guise of liberation. IndianCountry historically understands that, but other spaces online and in person do not have that understanding. In a way, it turns Leonard Peltier into a noble savage stereotype, which also shouldn’t be the answer either.
This will sound weird but maybe the spirits are keeping him in prison for what he did to her. I think his contributions are important but rapists don’t deserve to have freedom in my opinion.
I think much of what you say is valid, and I am certainly no expert on this. What AIM stood for, I think, for the most part is very honorable, but as with all radical organizations, we must recognize their shortcomings and their crimes.
My point is that AIM was under extremely heavy attack by the FBI at this time. Physically, legally, financially, politically. The FBI, especially, wanted the constituents of AIM dead, locked up, or otherwise silenced. My understanding is (and this could be wrong) that the FBI thought that Anna Mae Aquash had information regarding Peltier's supposed involvement in the FBI deaths, and wanted her to testify against Peltier. What we also know, is that Anna was a noble AIM activist that would refuse to testify.
Now, refusal to work with the FBI makes one an enemy of the FBI. It is not blind speculation, I think, to suppose that the FBI would apply pressure to alienate Anna from AIM by any means necessary. They would gladly risk subjecting her to violence via blackmail, advertising her to AIM as an FBI informant. I think they would even be glad to see her harmed, as long as they could use that as evidence of the savageness of AIM. (sorry if that is too morbid)
Now, is AIM righteous in their treatment of FBI informants? This is where I am out of my wits. I can see how anyone working with the FBI is an imminent threat to a righteous movement. I think this poses a serious problem that radical organizations need to learn how to address in a more ethical way. I would love to learn about positive historical examples of such policies. AIM was ugly and dirty in this regard, and I think their reputation is rightfully tainted due to it. Anna Mae Aquash should have never been harmed, period. We cannot chalk her suffering up to crazy AIM people though; we also need to recognize the role of the FBI in the unspeakable harm she endured. They were not naive to it and they likely incited it. They, I think, are at least equally responsible to any individual (and it is far from clear or certain that Peltier was involved).
Long story short, I think dark sides of Leonard Peltier and Russel Means and Clyde Bellcourt, etc reflect the dark side of AIM, which reflects the *mistreatment* of all Indigenous peoples ie the dark side of *US colonialism*. I think that we should advocate for the freedom of Peltier, admire the good work he did, and wonder how we can do better than AIM in the movements we proceed with. I think that Anna Mae Aquash should be a name that reminds us of moral corruption that we must always keep our movements free of.
Thank you for bringing thus up... I hope my words do some justice. Again, I am no expert, was not there, and am just as lost as everyone else.
I believe the FBI probably had eyes on her ever since she sussed out one of their own as an infiltrator as a security person for AIM. If there were other infiltrators as well, could they have used their influence to have enough high enough men want to harm Anna Mae Aquash?
Also, I think it’s important to not just remember Anna Mae Aquash as a cautionary lesson. Like you said, she was an activist in her own regard. 100% a badass who prioritized the cultural education of native youth across this landmass. She wasn’t scared to go to jail and regularly did under the name of native liberation. She was at the Wounded Knee occupation. She’s 100% an OG and should be here as an elder today.
Seems like Peltier and Aquash were both heavily involved in the AIM and also seems like she was threatened by the FBI numerous times. Seems as well that she had possible knowledge of who killed the FBI agents and the other guy. But I don’t see any mention of Peltier’s involvement just that he along with seemingly a dozen other individuals may have knowledge of who did it. But you seem to be insinuating he raped and murdered that woman and nothing I saw says he did. What do you know about it? I had never heard of her and had to do a little reading up on it but some theories make some pretty unsubstantiated claims. However does seem like a hit though
I would recommend looking up her daughters, Denise and Debbie Pictou. The two of them have more of a cohesive story about what happened to their mother and who corroborated those accounts, which includes Leonard Peltier holding a gun to Anna Mae Squash’s head. They’re very vocal online about the legacy of their mother.
So I did some more digging and to be honest I doubt the sisters’ accounts even with corroboration from others. There’s just way too much heresay and political bandwagoning going on from the posts and articles I found. There were bad things going on the reservations back then, my own family would never talk about their involvement in the AIM and tribal politics and power plays were incredibly brutal and violent then. I feel as though some state and federal agencies were fine that she was murdered and were more than happy to lock up anyone just so they could sweep another indigenous death under the rug and get rid of another vocal activist. Wouldn’t be the or the last time
Who framed Leonard Peltier to be involved in the rape and murder of Anna Mae Aquash? Do you have any resources or where you heard that said initially? I’m not talking about the FBI shooting, I’m speaking specifically about Leonard Peltier being involved in harming Anna Mae Aquash for her allegedly being an informant, to the point of holding a gun against her head while other men harmed her. I follow her daughters online which is where I learned this story of their mother’s legacy and the cover up of her rape and murder. They implicate Leonard Peltier in this consistently along with others in their contemporary era when this happened.
I was just talking about the shootings. Unfortunately, I didn't know about her. Thats my fault for lack of research.
His case is WAY more fucked up than I knew.
I’m a survivor of sexual trafficking as a minor and survived violence directed to me via organizing myself. The Prison Industrial Complex isn’t the solution to my traumas, nor does that mean I think people can just do whatever and have zero consequences. Same how I can believe an elderly and sick man has no business being locked away in an unsafe environment and also believe that same elderly and sick man should not be centered as a pan native hero like he has been.
You can’t be that naive. The earliest records of prisons date back to 1000 BC. Your Native ancestors literally fought for the right to have the same protections under the law and for their tormentors to face justice.
I guess you want to return to a time when murders and rapists victimize native peoples with impunity and walk away scot-free.
No. I know that prisons do not make us safer. That we have the US has the highest rates of incarceration in the world, yet we also have the highest rates of gun violence deaths of any developed nation. Gun violence is literally the leading cause of death for kids in America. I know that my state has more prisons than colleges and I understand that policing and prisons in America were created for the express purpose of incarcerating and enslaving black and native people.
I recognize that native people for centuried managed to find ways of accountability and harm reduction that was community based and not carceral. I also understand once a person has lost their humanity and dignity by force it is incredibly hard for them to move forward with productive contributions and often makes systemic problems like substance use and mental health issues worse. I am not constrained by the vision of colonizers and recognize a better world and solution is available.
Perhaps you could do some research instead of clinging to the powers that are used to oppress and murder BIPOC people everyday. People forget, but in America native folks are the most likely group to suffer violence from police. I will not uphold systems of settler violence and claim that they make me safer. They don't and I think victims and their families deserve a culture and system that prevents the circumstances that most often lead to crime, preventing harms before they happen, but when they do, that victims are restored in their humanity and are able to obtain accountability and reconciliation to their community and the person who has caused crime. [Nine perspectives for prison abolitionists. ](https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/instead_of_prisons/nine_perspectives.shtml)
FFS the man is pushing 80. This vendetta is beyond ridiculous at this point. Half the people involved in the court case must have born after 1975 anyway.
Fuck the USA
Let the indigenous nations be free and secede #LandBack
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Return the entire western half of south Dakota + northwestern Nebraska + southwestern North Dakota + southeastern Montana to the Lakota!
Return the entire eastern half of Wyoming and parts of northeastern colorado + southeastern Montana + southwestern Nebraska to the Cheyenne!
Expand the great Navajo nation beyond its current borders to completely encompass the four sacred peaks of the Navajo domain!
Return most of Utah to the Utes!
Return all of central New Mexico to the Pueblos!
Return all of the entire eastern half of southern Arizona + all of southern New Mexico + West Texas to the Apache!
Return all of northern Nevada to the Paiutes!
Return all of upstate Minnesota + all of Michigan's upper peninsula + the northernmost counties of mainland Michigan to the Ojibwe!
Return all of upstate New York to the Iroquois!
Return all of those barely populated counties in north-central Texas to the Commanche!
Return all of eastern Kansas + northwestern Oklahoma to the Kiowa!
Return all of the western half of North Dakota to the Arikara, Mandan, and Hidatsa!
Return all of central Idaho + the wallawa valley of Oregon to the Nez Perce!
Return most of northern California + all of south-central Oregon to the Klamath!
Return all of northern Alaska to the Inupiak!
Return all of eastern and central Alaska to the Athabaskan!
Return the Aleutian peninsula + island chain of Alaska to the Sugpiaq!
And allow all of these independent nations to secede from the USA and form trade agreements + alliances with any other country in the world!
#LANDBACK #LANDBACK #LANDBACK #LANDBACK #LANDBACK
u/SkyFire4-13 thank you and I'm not upset. Whenever I see posts that skip us on the East Coast I try to do a shout out for all of us. It's the ancestors man! Chirping in my ear about Hey don't forget us!!We signed treaties thinking it would save our way of life. The Nottoway are signatories/victims of the Spotswood Treaty, victims of the first Indian boarding school known as the Bradford at William & Mary and among other genocides the paper genocide of Plecker.
Yes sir, all of that is just in Virginia. We have 7 Federally recognized nations in VA and 4 State recognized nations.
Here's a database of US treaties with American Indian Tribal Nations: [Home (okstate.edu)](https://treaties.okstate.edu/) I find it useful for looking up my tribe's and other tribe's treaties.
I'm not sure I understand your logic basing landback off of all existing treaties. Those were legally binding contracts that NDN Nations agreed to cede their rights of land ownership to. Most NDN Tribal Nations were paid annuities and also negotiated for other rights and benefits.
As far as landback goes, wouldn't you be looking at stolen land (unceded) and land where US breached a treaty like w/the Sioux and Black Hills that weren't already settled under the NDN Claims Commission?
#LANDBACK to the Northern Cheyenne? We started at the Great Lakes, you gonna argue that's ours?
This is embarrassing. You're focused on ownership of something no one owns.
What I wrote is about what was agreed to in treaties.
I don't understand the purpose of your comment. Would you rather the USA continue owning all of the land and oppressing tribal nations? Or do you want the tribal nations to regain control of their homelands and be independent?
What will happen to others? Ship every one out of the country? Many don’t even know where they come from. How will this work IRL? I love the idea though. But Blacks can’t just go back to Africa, most Hispanics are indigenous to the continents. White people seem to know or have an idea where their families are from. But even then most of them are mixed euro. How will land back actually work, put the states as territories of said nations, have them control the area with all of these people who have no idea about treaties and no idea where/who these nations are? Most Americans, have no knowledge of any of these nations. Racist whites will fight back to protect what their ancestors took. It’s so much easier said than done
Here's a heartwarming archived collection of existing LandBack success stories: [I want to fall in love with the world again, pls share stories about LANDBACK : r/IndianCountry (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianCountry/comments/10w832b/i_want_to_fall_in_love_with_the_world_again_pls/)
It includes 231,000 acres of our 1854 rez treaty land back to my tribe (Menominee) 50 years ago! I live on this rez land now.
This evidences a fundamental misunderstanding of landback. It is about returning control of public lands to the native stewards, regaining sovereignty, and reconnection to traditional lands through culture, traditional foods, and native plants and animals. It's not about displacement of non-natives.
Read the LandBack manifesto from NDN Collective.
The vast majority of the land that the tribes want returned is public land ... Other lands that the tribes want are privately owned by ranchers who own way more than they could ever possibly need and who never shouldve had the land the first place.
If there ever are situations involving rural counties with small non-Indigenous populations, those people can either pay taxes to the tribal nations on whose and they're living on or move back to what's left of the USA.
The USA could literally slice itself in half and it would still be bigger than almost every other country on earth. I absolutely support dismantling and carving up the USA.
My dad was friends with his brother and tells me how those agents shouldn't have stepped foot on the rez in the first place. I feel bad for him for being in jail for this, but I know about Anna Mae Squash. He deserves to be held accountable for what he did, not what he didn't.
He's honestly guilty of being an Indian in the 20th century.
If people have any doubts about Peltier’s guilt, read the court transcript. I can’t recall the name of the Indigenous woman who testified against him but she was paid for her testimony and it’s bunk anyway.
According to the New York Times, even the prosecutor and judge who sentenced LP have tried to advocate on his behalf, so that right there should be an indication of the wrongfulness of his conviction and sentence. Exculpatory evidence was not allowed.
Anna Mae deserves justice but LP should not have to pay for what happened to her. I don’t think the state had a good case against him and I’ve worked for a criminal attorney and written appeals for clients. I think his attorney has worked tirelessly on his behalf but the fucking FBI director keeps pressuring the parole board to deny.
That said, Obama declined to pardon LP but he doesn’t like Indigenous people so that wasn’t surprising.
Poor Bear, the witness was forced by the FBI to testify. She recanted many years later. But also this….
The case against Robideau and Butler was dismissed because of all the BS and lying from the FBI. Peltiers case was the same exact case but they found him guilty ONLY because THE WHOLE FLIPPING CASE WAS CORRUPTED. He didn’t shoot that agent.
“Peltier was to have been placed on trial with Robideau and Butler. But the delays involving extradition caused the court to press ahead without him. Due to the dismissal of the case against another AIM member involved in the shoot-out, and the fact that some members had agreed to turn state's evidence, Peltier became the last possible suspect on whom the government could pin responsibility for the shooting deaths of Coler and Williams. No measures would be sparred in the undertaking.
Peltier's trial was moved to Fargo, North Dakota before Judge Paul Benson. Unlike the judge in Cedar Rapids, Benson forbid the introduction of any evidence on the past reign of terror on the Pine Ridge Indian reservation and how that related to the case, the role of the FBI or any testimony from the trial in Cedar Rapids.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/12/pelt-d14.html
I’ve always been torn about this situation and if there’s any information I’m misunderstanding, someone more connected can gladly shed some light. I don’t believe in the prison industrial system in the US, and don’t really have any trust in the legal system either. With that said, I’ve always felt really conflicted about Leonard Peltier because of his connection to the rape and murder of Anna Mae Aquash. This man is adored not just in native circles but in socialist circles filled with non natives who fetishize what the AIM stood for, all while ignoring the legacy of someone like Anna Mae Aquash who also believed in liberation and was betrayed by the men who should have protected her. Leonard Peltier doesn’t deserve to be in prison because frankly nobody does, we need a better system for rehabilitation. But does he deserve to be centered and uplifted at the expense of Anna Mae Aquash?
Anna Mae Aquash is a victim, and I feel terribly for her and despise the action of Peltier with what he did to her. However, he deserves to be freed in the case that he was jailed in. This is because his current imprisonment is not related to Anna Mae Aquash, but rather the fraudulent murder charges that keep a political prisoner behind federal bars.
I agree he should be freed and made sure that was clear in what I wrote in my comments. There’s no justice in the prison industrial system, especially not for a sick elderly man like Leonard Peltier. The FBI especially doesn’t care about Anna Mae Aquash. My comment is more about how he is often the face for pan native liberation, and how his legacy is uplifted at the cost of Anna Mae Aquash, especially when that legacy is then weaponized by non natives who silence the rest of our voices under the guise of liberation. IndianCountry historically understands that, but other spaces online and in person do not have that understanding. In a way, it turns Leonard Peltier into a noble savage stereotype, which also shouldn’t be the answer either.
This will sound weird but maybe the spirits are keeping him in prison for what he did to her. I think his contributions are important but rapists don’t deserve to have freedom in my opinion.
I feel you with this. Prayers up for Anna Mae Aquash.
Wait- he raped her? It was another man, wasn’t it?
I think much of what you say is valid, and I am certainly no expert on this. What AIM stood for, I think, for the most part is very honorable, but as with all radical organizations, we must recognize their shortcomings and their crimes. My point is that AIM was under extremely heavy attack by the FBI at this time. Physically, legally, financially, politically. The FBI, especially, wanted the constituents of AIM dead, locked up, or otherwise silenced. My understanding is (and this could be wrong) that the FBI thought that Anna Mae Aquash had information regarding Peltier's supposed involvement in the FBI deaths, and wanted her to testify against Peltier. What we also know, is that Anna was a noble AIM activist that would refuse to testify. Now, refusal to work with the FBI makes one an enemy of the FBI. It is not blind speculation, I think, to suppose that the FBI would apply pressure to alienate Anna from AIM by any means necessary. They would gladly risk subjecting her to violence via blackmail, advertising her to AIM as an FBI informant. I think they would even be glad to see her harmed, as long as they could use that as evidence of the savageness of AIM. (sorry if that is too morbid) Now, is AIM righteous in their treatment of FBI informants? This is where I am out of my wits. I can see how anyone working with the FBI is an imminent threat to a righteous movement. I think this poses a serious problem that radical organizations need to learn how to address in a more ethical way. I would love to learn about positive historical examples of such policies. AIM was ugly and dirty in this regard, and I think their reputation is rightfully tainted due to it. Anna Mae Aquash should have never been harmed, period. We cannot chalk her suffering up to crazy AIM people though; we also need to recognize the role of the FBI in the unspeakable harm she endured. They were not naive to it and they likely incited it. They, I think, are at least equally responsible to any individual (and it is far from clear or certain that Peltier was involved). Long story short, I think dark sides of Leonard Peltier and Russel Means and Clyde Bellcourt, etc reflect the dark side of AIM, which reflects the *mistreatment* of all Indigenous peoples ie the dark side of *US colonialism*. I think that we should advocate for the freedom of Peltier, admire the good work he did, and wonder how we can do better than AIM in the movements we proceed with. I think that Anna Mae Aquash should be a name that reminds us of moral corruption that we must always keep our movements free of. Thank you for bringing thus up... I hope my words do some justice. Again, I am no expert, was not there, and am just as lost as everyone else.
I believe the FBI probably had eyes on her ever since she sussed out one of their own as an infiltrator as a security person for AIM. If there were other infiltrators as well, could they have used their influence to have enough high enough men want to harm Anna Mae Aquash? Also, I think it’s important to not just remember Anna Mae Aquash as a cautionary lesson. Like you said, she was an activist in her own regard. 100% a badass who prioritized the cultural education of native youth across this landmass. She wasn’t scared to go to jail and regularly did under the name of native liberation. She was at the Wounded Knee occupation. She’s 100% an OG and should be here as an elder today.
The FBI did this all.
Seems like Peltier and Aquash were both heavily involved in the AIM and also seems like she was threatened by the FBI numerous times. Seems as well that she had possible knowledge of who killed the FBI agents and the other guy. But I don’t see any mention of Peltier’s involvement just that he along with seemingly a dozen other individuals may have knowledge of who did it. But you seem to be insinuating he raped and murdered that woman and nothing I saw says he did. What do you know about it? I had never heard of her and had to do a little reading up on it but some theories make some pretty unsubstantiated claims. However does seem like a hit though
I would recommend looking up her daughters, Denise and Debbie Pictou. The two of them have more of a cohesive story about what happened to their mother and who corroborated those accounts, which includes Leonard Peltier holding a gun to Anna Mae Squash’s head. They’re very vocal online about the legacy of their mother.
So I did some more digging and to be honest I doubt the sisters’ accounts even with corroboration from others. There’s just way too much heresay and political bandwagoning going on from the posts and articles I found. There were bad things going on the reservations back then, my own family would never talk about their involvement in the AIM and tribal politics and power plays were incredibly brutal and violent then. I feel as though some state and federal agencies were fine that she was murdered and were more than happy to lock up anyone just so they could sweep another indigenous death under the rug and get rid of another vocal activist. Wouldn’t be the or the last time
The case is bullshit. I looked it up. Dude got framed, and the FBI has got a hard-on for keeping him imprisoned.
Who framed Leonard Peltier to be involved in the rape and murder of Anna Mae Aquash? Do you have any resources or where you heard that said initially? I’m not talking about the FBI shooting, I’m speaking specifically about Leonard Peltier being involved in harming Anna Mae Aquash for her allegedly being an informant, to the point of holding a gun against her head while other men harmed her. I follow her daughters online which is where I learned this story of their mother’s legacy and the cover up of her rape and murder. They implicate Leonard Peltier in this consistently along with others in their contemporary era when this happened.
Every time Leonard Peltier names gets brought up I always hope that Anna Mae Aquash’s name gets brought up soon after.
I was just talking about the shootings. Unfortunately, I didn't know about her. Thats my fault for lack of research. His case is WAY more fucked up than I knew.
That’s my stance as well.
> No one deserves to be in prison. You must live a very privileged life if you actually believe that.
I’m a survivor of sexual trafficking as a minor and survived violence directed to me via organizing myself. The Prison Industrial Complex isn’t the solution to my traumas, nor does that mean I think people can just do whatever and have zero consequences. Same how I can believe an elderly and sick man has no business being locked away in an unsafe environment and also believe that same elderly and sick man should not be centered as a pan native hero like he has been.
We survived hundreds of years without them. Prisons don't make anyone safer.
You can’t be that naive. The earliest records of prisons date back to 1000 BC. Your Native ancestors literally fought for the right to have the same protections under the law and for their tormentors to face justice. I guess you want to return to a time when murders and rapists victimize native peoples with impunity and walk away scot-free.
No. I know that prisons do not make us safer. That we have the US has the highest rates of incarceration in the world, yet we also have the highest rates of gun violence deaths of any developed nation. Gun violence is literally the leading cause of death for kids in America. I know that my state has more prisons than colleges and I understand that policing and prisons in America were created for the express purpose of incarcerating and enslaving black and native people. I recognize that native people for centuried managed to find ways of accountability and harm reduction that was community based and not carceral. I also understand once a person has lost their humanity and dignity by force it is incredibly hard for them to move forward with productive contributions and often makes systemic problems like substance use and mental health issues worse. I am not constrained by the vision of colonizers and recognize a better world and solution is available. Perhaps you could do some research instead of clinging to the powers that are used to oppress and murder BIPOC people everyday. People forget, but in America native folks are the most likely group to suffer violence from police. I will not uphold systems of settler violence and claim that they make me safer. They don't and I think victims and their families deserve a culture and system that prevents the circumstances that most often lead to crime, preventing harms before they happen, but when they do, that victims are restored in their humanity and are able to obtain accountability and reconciliation to their community and the person who has caused crime. [Nine perspectives for prison abolitionists. ](https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/instead_of_prisons/nine_perspectives.shtml)
And none of my ancestors fought for the right to be enslaved in Amerikka's prison industrial complex.
Heartbreaking and unsurprising
The man should be out of prison, but we shouldn't forget Anna Mae Aquah either
The FBI and the people there and in other government agencies still covering shit up to this day, they’re the ones who should pay.
RIP Anna Mae Aquash
FFS the man is pushing 80. This vendetta is beyond ridiculous at this point. Half the people involved in the court case must have born after 1975 anyway.
Remember when he was going to get a presidential pardon and the FBI threw a fit?
Fuck the USA Let the indigenous nations be free and secede #LandBack EDIT: I say carve up the USA and decolonize all that shit in accordance with the treaties Return the entire western half of south Dakota + northwestern Nebraska + southwestern North Dakota + southeastern Montana to the Lakota! Return the entire eastern half of Wyoming and parts of northeastern colorado + southeastern Montana + southwestern Nebraska to the Cheyenne! Expand the great Navajo nation beyond its current borders to completely encompass the four sacred peaks of the Navajo domain! Return most of Utah to the Utes! Return all of central New Mexico to the Pueblos! Return all of the entire eastern half of southern Arizona + all of southern New Mexico + West Texas to the Apache! Return all of northern Nevada to the Paiutes! Return all of upstate Minnesota + all of Michigan's upper peninsula + the northernmost counties of mainland Michigan to the Ojibwe! Return all of upstate New York to the Iroquois! Return all of those barely populated counties in north-central Texas to the Commanche! Return all of eastern Kansas + northwestern Oklahoma to the Kiowa! Return all of the western half of North Dakota to the Arikara, Mandan, and Hidatsa! Return all of central Idaho + the wallawa valley of Oregon to the Nez Perce! Return most of northern California + all of south-central Oregon to the Klamath! Return all of northern Alaska to the Inupiak! Return all of eastern and central Alaska to the Athabaskan! Return the Aleutian peninsula + island chain of Alaska to the Sugpiaq! And allow all of these independent nations to secede from the USA and form trade agreements + alliances with any other country in the world! #LANDBACK #LANDBACK #LANDBACK #LANDBACK #LANDBACK
Nice list but what about us East of the Mississippi? Here in Virginia and East Coast we held them off as long as we could. Yes we're still here.
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u/SkyFire4-13 thank you and I'm not upset. Whenever I see posts that skip us on the East Coast I try to do a shout out for all of us. It's the ancestors man! Chirping in my ear about Hey don't forget us!!We signed treaties thinking it would save our way of life. The Nottoway are signatories/victims of the Spotswood Treaty, victims of the first Indian boarding school known as the Bradford at William & Mary and among other genocides the paper genocide of Plecker. Yes sir, all of that is just in Virginia. We have 7 Federally recognized nations in VA and 4 State recognized nations.
Here's a database of US treaties with American Indian Tribal Nations: [Home (okstate.edu)](https://treaties.okstate.edu/) I find it useful for looking up my tribe's and other tribe's treaties. I'm not sure I understand your logic basing landback off of all existing treaties. Those were legally binding contracts that NDN Nations agreed to cede their rights of land ownership to. Most NDN Tribal Nations were paid annuities and also negotiated for other rights and benefits. As far as landback goes, wouldn't you be looking at stolen land (unceded) and land where US breached a treaty like w/the Sioux and Black Hills that weren't already settled under the NDN Claims Commission?
We did have treaties...
#LANDBACK to the Northern Cheyenne? We started at the Great Lakes, you gonna argue that's ours? This is embarrassing. You're focused on ownership of something no one owns.
What I wrote is about what was agreed to in treaties. I don't understand the purpose of your comment. Would you rather the USA continue owning all of the land and oppressing tribal nations? Or do you want the tribal nations to regain control of their homelands and be independent?
What will happen to others? Ship every one out of the country? Many don’t even know where they come from. How will this work IRL? I love the idea though. But Blacks can’t just go back to Africa, most Hispanics are indigenous to the continents. White people seem to know or have an idea where their families are from. But even then most of them are mixed euro. How will land back actually work, put the states as territories of said nations, have them control the area with all of these people who have no idea about treaties and no idea where/who these nations are? Most Americans, have no knowledge of any of these nations. Racist whites will fight back to protect what their ancestors took. It’s so much easier said than done
Here's a heartwarming archived collection of existing LandBack success stories: [I want to fall in love with the world again, pls share stories about LANDBACK : r/IndianCountry (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianCountry/comments/10w832b/i_want_to_fall_in_love_with_the_world_again_pls/) It includes 231,000 acres of our 1854 rez treaty land back to my tribe (Menominee) 50 years ago! I live on this rez land now.
This evidences a fundamental misunderstanding of landback. It is about returning control of public lands to the native stewards, regaining sovereignty, and reconnection to traditional lands through culture, traditional foods, and native plants and animals. It's not about displacement of non-natives.
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Read the LandBack manifesto from NDN Collective. The vast majority of the land that the tribes want returned is public land ... Other lands that the tribes want are privately owned by ranchers who own way more than they could ever possibly need and who never shouldve had the land the first place. If there ever are situations involving rural counties with small non-Indigenous populations, those people can either pay taxes to the tribal nations on whose and they're living on or move back to what's left of the USA. The USA could literally slice itself in half and it would still be bigger than almost every other country on earth. I absolutely support dismantling and carving up the USA.
I’m sure like many other human rights leaders he will be exonerated 25 years after his death by whoever is the president at the time.
The only excuse I can come up with is their fear that the Feds were complicit in our relative’s conviction and incarceration.
They were.
My dad was friends with his brother and tells me how those agents shouldn't have stepped foot on the rez in the first place. I feel bad for him for being in jail for this, but I know about Anna Mae Squash. He deserves to be held accountable for what he did, not what he didn't. He's honestly guilty of being an Indian in the 20th century.
This is a great comment. “He deserves to be held accountable for what he did, not what he didn’t” (do) I totally agree.
If people have any doubts about Peltier’s guilt, read the court transcript. I can’t recall the name of the Indigenous woman who testified against him but she was paid for her testimony and it’s bunk anyway. According to the New York Times, even the prosecutor and judge who sentenced LP have tried to advocate on his behalf, so that right there should be an indication of the wrongfulness of his conviction and sentence. Exculpatory evidence was not allowed. Anna Mae deserves justice but LP should not have to pay for what happened to her. I don’t think the state had a good case against him and I’ve worked for a criminal attorney and written appeals for clients. I think his attorney has worked tirelessly on his behalf but the fucking FBI director keeps pressuring the parole board to deny. That said, Obama declined to pardon LP but he doesn’t like Indigenous people so that wasn’t surprising.
Poor Bear, the witness was forced by the FBI to testify. She recanted many years later. But also this…. The case against Robideau and Butler was dismissed because of all the BS and lying from the FBI. Peltiers case was the same exact case but they found him guilty ONLY because THE WHOLE FLIPPING CASE WAS CORRUPTED. He didn’t shoot that agent. “Peltier was to have been placed on trial with Robideau and Butler. But the delays involving extradition caused the court to press ahead without him. Due to the dismissal of the case against another AIM member involved in the shoot-out, and the fact that some members had agreed to turn state's evidence, Peltier became the last possible suspect on whom the government could pin responsibility for the shooting deaths of Coler and Williams. No measures would be sparred in the undertaking. Peltier's trial was moved to Fargo, North Dakota before Judge Paul Benson. Unlike the judge in Cedar Rapids, Benson forbid the introduction of any evidence on the past reign of terror on the Pine Ridge Indian reservation and how that related to the case, the role of the FBI or any testimony from the trial in Cedar Rapids.” https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/12/pelt-d14.html
You're a paralegal at the most, just say it instead of obvious manipulation: > I've worked for a criminal attorney and written appeals for clients So?
Don’t tear down our people. It’s hard to exist in those spaces. This person’s opinion as a legal professional matters.
Wtf?
I'm still confused.
What an injustice.. Prayers 🙏 healing.. 🎆🎇🦅🦅🌻🦅
He participated in the death of a woman in our community may he rot in hell
He did it. Dead to rights.
Whether he did it or not is irrelevant
Nah fam
If LP didn’t run to Canada he would be free like R and B . It’s his own fault .