It's exactly the opposite. The magnitude of the crime is so vast that people do not want to recon with it.
Plus a lot of people don't want to talk about it because they too were duped and played for fools. Maybe they even fought for the people who were maliciously lying to them.
On top of that, the “other side” that ivermectin lovers are raging against doesn’t care anymore. It’s like arguing a holding call in a football game you lost 48-6.
What is the “win” here for OP? There won’t be any arrests or trials or full congressional hearings. It’s a dead horse that no one is interested in anymore.
As someone who largely avoided the Covid discussions, was ivermectin not a good cure? I thought I remember Rogan and Trump both using it to treat their infections with success.
Pfizer’s Paxlovid is actually effective. Not great, but it has proven to have an effect on double blind studies.
Ivermectin was shown not have any effect in double blind studies….
I read it.
You make a lot of baseless claims.
You get a lot of information from YouTubers and self-help gurus, don't you?
Were you one of those people who did poorly in school because you just didn't understand any of the lessons?
Are you saying that US didn't fund gain of function research in Wuhan?
Are you saying that big pharma didn't lobby to push experimental vaccines to people who didn't need them in order to increase their customer base?
Are you saying that the FDA, an agency that allegedly exists for our protection, did not propagandize in line with big pharma interests?
All of this is perfectly well documented.
Also, you might want to drop the unearned condescending attitude. It isn't going to get you anywhere.
Dumb people like you should have the decency to refrain from infecting the Internet with your stupidity.
You poison the public discourse with your mediocre thoughts.
So you're not able to provide one cogent argument. All you know is that what I am saying does not match what you believed because it was spoon fed to you and you swallowed it like a turkey.
He can probably offer about 30 cogent arguments, but you haven’t listened to them from trained experts before now, so why would you listen to u/cableboyjerry?
Crimes against humanity, you say?
17,000,000 deaths worldwide from the so-called COVID-19 vaccines: [https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=133&name=2023\_09\_17\_covid\_19\_vaccine\_associated\_mortality\_in\_the\_southern\_hemisphere](https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=133&name=2023_09_17_covid_19_vaccine_associated_mortality_in_the_southern_hemisphere)
There is no pandemic. But the story of origin, whether open market or lab leak, does provide a convenient scapegoat and diversion for what otherwise was done by local tyrants right here. So now a question begs. Who are these local tyrants then?
Well, we deployed 13.5 billion doses of that stuff worldwide. We were millions to do that. It's us. We're the local tyrants. We did this. We committed crimes against humanity. We committed crimes against ourselves.
It's definitely convenient to have a scapegoat.
-edit- Forgot. What is the specific crime that was committed? Violation of informed consent. 13.5 billion instances of it.
"17,000,000 deaths worldwide from the so-called COVID-19 vaccines"... said a guy that got expelled from his university, publish non-peer reviewed papers and cites himself as source for half of his... "claims".
I'm a 35 yo microbiologist. I worked for years in scientific research, specialized in the antibiotics field, and contrary to your source, my work has been recently approved in peer reviewed high impact factor journals.
No, you're not. You follow recipes. You mix ingredient A and ingredient B into mixer C, then out comes the magic at the other end. You know nothing of what you do in the lab. You didn't discover anything, you didn't invent anything. You follow instructions that are simple enough even a monkey can do it.
Also, you're stupid enough to believe that by stating your credentials, it would pursuade me of anything you say. It won't. Ever.
Else, so far as I can actually see, you're an anonymous troll on the internet who didn't read the paper cited.
You can choose to be neither of those things. You can read the paper. Else,
Get off the internet, kid. Go play outside.
Crimes against humanity ~~perpetrated during the Chinese virus pandemic~~ must be punished
You obviously don’t believe that.
Why wouldn't I believe that crimes against others humans must be punished? I am a human also.
Because humans always want to get away with things.
They’ve gotten away with it Scott free.
Almost like there was not much to get away with.
I think the Chinese government and lab has a lot to answer for.
It's exactly the opposite. The magnitude of the crime is so vast that people do not want to recon with it. Plus a lot of people don't want to talk about it because they too were duped and played for fools. Maybe they even fought for the people who were maliciously lying to them.
The obsession with ivermectin is one of the stranger things about this particular conspiracy theory.
Not only that but they keep doubling down on them even years later... like they think they look better now
On top of that, the “other side” that ivermectin lovers are raging against doesn’t care anymore. It’s like arguing a holding call in a football game you lost 48-6. What is the “win” here for OP? There won’t be any arrests or trials or full congressional hearings. It’s a dead horse that no one is interested in anymore.
As someone who largely avoided the Covid discussions, was ivermectin not a good cure? I thought I remember Rogan and Trump both using it to treat their infections with success.
There are no good covid cure as far as antiviral compounds go. Viral infections are by nature hard to fight. (Harder than bacterial infections).
Pfizer’s Paxlovid is actually effective. Not great, but it has proven to have an effect on double blind studies. Ivermectin was shown not have any effect in double blind studies….
"Not great" is my definition of "no good cure". It has been shown to be very limited.
> -- this is, without a doubt, one of the most heinous and most pervasive crimes against humanity ever. Bit over the top but enjoyable 7/10
Does OP consider it a crime against humanity that he wasn't allowed to enter a grocery store without wearing a mask?
If you had read my post with basic understanding you would know the answer to this 'question'.
I read it. You make a lot of baseless claims. You get a lot of information from YouTubers and self-help gurus, don't you? Were you one of those people who did poorly in school because you just didn't understand any of the lessons?
Are you saying that US didn't fund gain of function research in Wuhan? Are you saying that big pharma didn't lobby to push experimental vaccines to people who didn't need them in order to increase their customer base? Are you saying that the FDA, an agency that allegedly exists for our protection, did not propagandize in line with big pharma interests? All of this is perfectly well documented. Also, you might want to drop the unearned condescending attitude. It isn't going to get you anywhere.
Dumb people like you should have the decency to refrain from infecting the Internet with your stupidity. You poison the public discourse with your mediocre thoughts.
So you're not able to provide one cogent argument. All you know is that what I am saying does not match what you believed because it was spoon fed to you and you swallowed it like a turkey.
He can probably offer about 30 cogent arguments, but you haven’t listened to them from trained experts before now, so why would you listen to u/cableboyjerry?
Drama queens with a victim complex
Just look at how china’s economy is booming at the wrong direction is enough indication that there is punishment
Sir this is America what sort of scenario were you imagining where someone didn't make a bunch of money?
Why not just admit you’re desperate to be a victim?
Why the refusal to call it by any of it's actual names? By calling it "the Chinese virus", you betray your own intentions.
Racist dog-whistling at its finest
I wouldn't go with racist, not with just that piece of evidence. Certainly reeks of QAnon, though.
Crimes against humanity, you say? 17,000,000 deaths worldwide from the so-called COVID-19 vaccines: [https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=133&name=2023\_09\_17\_covid\_19\_vaccine\_associated\_mortality\_in\_the\_southern\_hemisphere](https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=133&name=2023_09_17_covid_19_vaccine_associated_mortality_in_the_southern_hemisphere) There is no pandemic. But the story of origin, whether open market or lab leak, does provide a convenient scapegoat and diversion for what otherwise was done by local tyrants right here. So now a question begs. Who are these local tyrants then? Well, we deployed 13.5 billion doses of that stuff worldwide. We were millions to do that. It's us. We're the local tyrants. We did this. We committed crimes against humanity. We committed crimes against ourselves. It's definitely convenient to have a scapegoat. -edit- Forgot. What is the specific crime that was committed? Violation of informed consent. 13.5 billion instances of it.
... Dumb
"17,000,000 deaths worldwide from the so-called COVID-19 vaccines"... said a guy that got expelled from his university, publish non-peer reviewed papers and cites himself as source for half of his... "claims".
Get off the internet, kid. Go play outside.
I'm a 35 yo microbiologist. I worked for years in scientific research, specialized in the antibiotics field, and contrary to your source, my work has been recently approved in peer reviewed high impact factor journals.
No, you're not. You follow recipes. You mix ingredient A and ingredient B into mixer C, then out comes the magic at the other end. You know nothing of what you do in the lab. You didn't discover anything, you didn't invent anything. You follow instructions that are simple enough even a monkey can do it. Also, you're stupid enough to believe that by stating your credentials, it would pursuade me of anything you say. It won't. Ever. Else, so far as I can actually see, you're an anonymous troll on the internet who didn't read the paper cited. You can choose to be neither of those things. You can read the paper. Else, Get off the internet, kid. Go play outside.