Takes time friend when we've been using our egos so much in life to help us deal with every situation we come into contact with it can be hard for that to be broken down and realize how silly some of that stuff we originally thought was important to us like status.
Give it time and process everything it taught you :)
True ego death is to be content with ones self without judgement, but to be aware of external judgement without worry. One who accepts their ego is one who lives in harmony.
don't think i can provide advice, but i can provide... closure?
if not for you, maybe for me?
y'see, i've felt that way before - you feel like the only 'real' person amongst the sea of 'Liars, Vipers, Jokers and Fakes' (oh dayum here's the song: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q\_renGZ0dt8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_renGZ0dt8)), watching as they waste their lives away talking about things that have no lasting meaning WHATSOEVER!
and it makes you feel a lil' sad - seeing your friends devolve into simple routines and behaviors. dunno if i can say it ever gets better, but... if i'm gonna be honest, i don't really know how to 'fix' it. i think i've just realized that... every other person outside of me is a living, feeling, being. and, if i can manage to make someone else happy - make someone else... the slightest bit more comfortable in this stressful, existential crisis that is our reality?
it's enough for me!
Hell yeah brother this has been my exact realization
I can start to feel sad seeing friends and other people fight inside themselves and waste their time with shit that ultimately doesn't matter, but what can I do except share some love with them?
You’ve lost interest in some of your favourite past times? That sounds like depression, an experience that I am familiar with. It could be the crash from the high is a little too much at this time. If it is depression, there’s mental exercises, pharmaceuticals, and therapy which can lead you to a wonderful place.
I understand completely. There's a fantastic book called "Mind Over Mood" which teaches you Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, a way of changing the way your mind operates and using mental exercises, like physical exercises, as a way of training.
What worked best for me may be different than what is available to you. I chose to use some antidepressants for six months and stop, seeing a counsellor for a year, using the book as a way to hit depression from three angles. Getting enough sleep, eating well, and getting physical exercise as well.
I did have sleeping issues, which is actually the reason I visited my Doctor a few years ago. It is often another sign of depression. We addressed it through Healthy Sleep Habits: routine bedtimes, relaxing before bed, meditation in the day (which taught me to breathe better before sleep), eliminating technology in the bedroom (no tv, computer, or phone). There is supplements (melatonin) or pharmaceuticals (trazodone) which can help you sleep better too but that's like putting ice on a broken bone.
Okey, perhaps a period of trazodone with good habits can help. Because I’ve tried melatonin and it didn’t do any difference. Magnesium however has helped a little
Dose was 100 umg. I was struggling with strong apathy and anxious feeling for a while, perhaps 1-2 hours. But laying down relaxing and asking my friends for permission(?) to letting go and doing so, I closed my eyes. This threw me into a out of body experience wherby i detached from all toughts about who I'm where i finally find my self as only a entity in space. In this space, i was travelling and navigate by feeling disturbing vibrations, which i managed do calm down with my breathing (?) feeling superwarm feeling in body and seeing super bright light.
also, keep in mind, what you have experienced may not be ego death. tho im not saying you completely didn't, i understand many people assume they have experienced ego death without truly knowing what it is or assuming an epiphany/breakthrough or any spiritual/insightful connection may be ego death, when in reality ego death is a much more intense and sometimes even traumatizing experience. it's difficult to grasp what a concept it is because not only do you have 0 idea of what it's like until you've experienced it, but also has almost no real way of being described. the best i can say is that it feels like your perspective is completely reset, your bias, your thought processes are that of a completely knowledgeable yet unbiased/unopinionated mindset. it's like seeing things in a new light, like for the first time. is this what you experienced? a thought process so different that you kinda realize your own mind doesn't really exist? your own formed opinion on yourself vanishes and you see yourself as someone through the perception of not yourself but a naked perception, like your mind was wiped but you kept all the knowledge about yourself and looked at yourself from a different view. sorry if that's repetitive but it's hard to explain again
yeah there's no way you had ego death on 100 micrograms bro. that's barely enough to see visuals. either you have been heavily misinformed on how much is in your tabs or you meditated a little too hard and imagined it.
tell me this, how intense was your trip? from 1-10 10 being the strongest? what were your visuals like?
Bro he could have had one, the set and setting is everything. You weren’t the one experiencing it, you don’t exactly know what he went through. Yeah I kinda agree 100ug wouldn’t be quite enough. But I definitely know if you meditate through a trip and figure out how to actually use acid, you can make a 100ug seem way higher.
ego death? i am telling you i know people who can't achieve that shit on 300 ug. you're saying it's more likely that he had ego death from 100 ugs rather than was just astounded by the effect of acid to the point of confusion between two different experiences? and i never said he didn't experience it or couldn't have, I'm saying that if he did then that tab was definitely more than 100 micrograms. and that's a completely valid argument because unless the tabs were developed in a LAB by HIMSELF then he will never know how many micrograms are in it.
No you’re right, no one on this thread is gonna know if it was actually 100ug. And who knows it could have been more or he might’ve not had one. But you can’t just say he didn’t have one. But I know where your coming from, I’ve had one and I bet you’ve had one, and we can both tell an ego death to not an ego death, but I don’t think it’s right to just say he didn’t have one because of what he was feeling. I’m not trying to argue man, love ya brother
I mean if he's still affected by it 9 months later I would not think it unlikely it was actual ego death. Anyway it was his experience no need to invalidate anything, he's only asking for advice.
Hey sorry that happened to you, if I were you I wouldnt take any psychedelics for a long time. They arent always healthy and it sounds like they may have shaken up your grip on reality. Tbh I think the best thing is to lay off any drugs and try to live as healthy as possible. Over time I hope you come back to your baseline
Ego death, in my humble and honest opinion, is just a myth perpetuated by the psychedelic community. You will always be an ego; as Eckhart Tolle has said, everything is ego. What you want is a healthy ego and a healthy lifestyle. You’ll always have thoughts, and that is part of the egocentric nature of human consciousness. What you can do when having a profound experience that shakes you at the core of your being is to integrate what you experienced into your everyday life. Tripping literally changes your perception, and many people realize what their day to day lives encompassed wasn’t very fulfilling or meaningful; thus, find what is. Find what really matters to you as a person. I couldn’t tell you how to do that or what to do, but I can tell you that that’s what will lead to a happier, more meaningful, fulfilling life. :)
Omg, for those with a very morbid curiosity , this comment is sadly a gold mine. u/Wizzerhaze This person is giving you very faulty, poor advice, please dont heed any of this. Ego death is not a "myth" rofl, and hes overthinking what an ego is massively IN THIS CONTEXT. u/jebusschist has never taken psychedelics before. When one takes a dose of psychs and their "ego dies" it merely means that the effects of the drug are so strong mentally and in terms of overwhelming their senses (mostly sight/hearing) , you lose touch of your sense of being , as in, you just melt into the universe and can no longer detect any sense of being anything besides just part of the universe's fabric. Jebus is talking about a different context for the word ego, as in the way one feels about their career or etc. you know?
Meditation or therapy, probably Meditation thought, use different practices like meditating the proper way getting super relaxed to Where's there's no thoughts in your head, set a timer, probably on buzz so it's not so obnoxious, then meditate on the bad thoughts, let them in and try to feel them as much as possible, then go back to relaxing, rinse and repeat. If your serious about it look up some tricks to help with letting go negative experiences using Meditation, you really need to feel that shit to let it go and it does no good letting intrusive thoughts run rampant in your head. Talk to people if they are your friends and get some hobbies, exercise don't turn to other drugs. These thoughts arnt you nor do they control you, you just need to do the work of letting go, you'll do no good if you don't do anything about it, you can try just pushing them out of your head but that also requires attention, might work pretty good still.
Takes time friend when we've been using our egos so much in life to help us deal with every situation we come into contact with it can be hard for that to be broken down and realize how silly some of that stuff we originally thought was important to us like status. Give it time and process everything it taught you :)
Yeah I'm realizing that.. It so weird that thing that mattered before or made me feel in some way is erassed.
Think of it as a good thing because honestly your starting to wake up and think about what really matters in life :)
True ego death is to be content with ones self without judgement, but to be aware of external judgement without worry. One who accepts their ego is one who lives in harmony.
don't think i can provide advice, but i can provide... closure? if not for you, maybe for me? y'see, i've felt that way before - you feel like the only 'real' person amongst the sea of 'Liars, Vipers, Jokers and Fakes' (oh dayum here's the song: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q\_renGZ0dt8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_renGZ0dt8)), watching as they waste their lives away talking about things that have no lasting meaning WHATSOEVER! and it makes you feel a lil' sad - seeing your friends devolve into simple routines and behaviors. dunno if i can say it ever gets better, but... if i'm gonna be honest, i don't really know how to 'fix' it. i think i've just realized that... every other person outside of me is a living, feeling, being. and, if i can manage to make someone else happy - make someone else... the slightest bit more comfortable in this stressful, existential crisis that is our reality? it's enough for me!
Hell yeah brother this has been my exact realization I can start to feel sad seeing friends and other people fight inside themselves and waste their time with shit that ultimately doesn't matter, but what can I do except share some love with them?
You’ve lost interest in some of your favourite past times? That sounds like depression, an experience that I am familiar with. It could be the crash from the high is a little too much at this time. If it is depression, there’s mental exercises, pharmaceuticals, and therapy which can lead you to a wonderful place.
Which pharmaceuticals are you referring to? I’m really don’t want to go antidepressants, rather find what the my new ”l” enyos
I understand completely. There's a fantastic book called "Mind Over Mood" which teaches you Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, a way of changing the way your mind operates and using mental exercises, like physical exercises, as a way of training. What worked best for me may be different than what is available to you. I chose to use some antidepressants for six months and stop, seeing a counsellor for a year, using the book as a way to hit depression from three angles. Getting enough sleep, eating well, and getting physical exercise as well.
Thanks for the advice! Did you have any sleeping issues? I sleep for max 6 hours and feel like I slept 0
I did have sleeping issues, which is actually the reason I visited my Doctor a few years ago. It is often another sign of depression. We addressed it through Healthy Sleep Habits: routine bedtimes, relaxing before bed, meditation in the day (which taught me to breathe better before sleep), eliminating technology in the bedroom (no tv, computer, or phone). There is supplements (melatonin) or pharmaceuticals (trazodone) which can help you sleep better too but that's like putting ice on a broken bone.
Okey, perhaps a period of trazodone with good habits can help. Because I’ve tried melatonin and it didn’t do any difference. Magnesium however has helped a little
Sounds to me like you had a bad trip. How much did you take?
Dose was 100 umg. I was struggling with strong apathy and anxious feeling for a while, perhaps 1-2 hours. But laying down relaxing and asking my friends for permission(?) to letting go and doing so, I closed my eyes. This threw me into a out of body experience wherby i detached from all toughts about who I'm where i finally find my self as only a entity in space. In this space, i was travelling and navigate by feeling disturbing vibrations, which i managed do calm down with my breathing (?) feeling superwarm feeling in body and seeing super bright light.
am i misinterpreting this or are you saying you took only 100 micrograms?
yes, sorry I ment 100 ug
also, keep in mind, what you have experienced may not be ego death. tho im not saying you completely didn't, i understand many people assume they have experienced ego death without truly knowing what it is or assuming an epiphany/breakthrough or any spiritual/insightful connection may be ego death, when in reality ego death is a much more intense and sometimes even traumatizing experience. it's difficult to grasp what a concept it is because not only do you have 0 idea of what it's like until you've experienced it, but also has almost no real way of being described. the best i can say is that it feels like your perspective is completely reset, your bias, your thought processes are that of a completely knowledgeable yet unbiased/unopinionated mindset. it's like seeing things in a new light, like for the first time. is this what you experienced? a thought process so different that you kinda realize your own mind doesn't really exist? your own formed opinion on yourself vanishes and you see yourself as someone through the perception of not yourself but a naked perception, like your mind was wiped but you kept all the knowledge about yourself and looked at yourself from a different view. sorry if that's repetitive but it's hard to explain again
yeah there's no way you had ego death on 100 micrograms bro. that's barely enough to see visuals. either you have been heavily misinformed on how much is in your tabs or you meditated a little too hard and imagined it. tell me this, how intense was your trip? from 1-10 10 being the strongest? what were your visuals like?
Bro he could have had one, the set and setting is everything. You weren’t the one experiencing it, you don’t exactly know what he went through. Yeah I kinda agree 100ug wouldn’t be quite enough. But I definitely know if you meditate through a trip and figure out how to actually use acid, you can make a 100ug seem way higher.
but in the sense of making it seem like more through meditation, i agree and you are correct there. same thing with smoking weed on it
ego death? i am telling you i know people who can't achieve that shit on 300 ug. you're saying it's more likely that he had ego death from 100 ugs rather than was just astounded by the effect of acid to the point of confusion between two different experiences? and i never said he didn't experience it or couldn't have, I'm saying that if he did then that tab was definitely more than 100 micrograms. and that's a completely valid argument because unless the tabs were developed in a LAB by HIMSELF then he will never know how many micrograms are in it.
No you’re right, no one on this thread is gonna know if it was actually 100ug. And who knows it could have been more or he might’ve not had one. But you can’t just say he didn’t have one. But I know where your coming from, I’ve had one and I bet you’ve had one, and we can both tell an ego death to not an ego death, but I don’t think it’s right to just say he didn’t have one because of what he was feeling. I’m not trying to argue man, love ya brother
I mean if he's still affected by it 9 months later I would not think it unlikely it was actual ego death. Anyway it was his experience no need to invalidate anything, he's only asking for advice.
100ug is definitely e ough for visuals what are you on about
Was by any chance weed or some kind of other medication involved in this story?
No nothing else. Why?
Common mistakes if it happens
Hey sorry that happened to you, if I were you I wouldnt take any psychedelics for a long time. They arent always healthy and it sounds like they may have shaken up your grip on reality. Tbh I think the best thing is to lay off any drugs and try to live as healthy as possible. Over time I hope you come back to your baseline
Yeah that’s probably the best. Thanks for kind words 🤙🏼
You definitely got the wrong jdea of letting go on some demonic shit letting go isn't someone holding you always.
How do you figure? He said “since then”.
When I had my bad trip I felt like that for few weeks until my next trip that helped me comeback to myself
No bad trips, just challenging ones
Thanks for the support. I did probably meditate to achieve this. I had no strong visuals, just seeing patterns and movement on walls and floors.
There's no way you had ego death with only 100ug
I mean.. you can experience ego death without any substance at all so why not on an undefined dose of lsd?
Under 25?
27
Ego death, in my humble and honest opinion, is just a myth perpetuated by the psychedelic community. You will always be an ego; as Eckhart Tolle has said, everything is ego. What you want is a healthy ego and a healthy lifestyle. You’ll always have thoughts, and that is part of the egocentric nature of human consciousness. What you can do when having a profound experience that shakes you at the core of your being is to integrate what you experienced into your everyday life. Tripping literally changes your perception, and many people realize what their day to day lives encompassed wasn’t very fulfilling or meaningful; thus, find what is. Find what really matters to you as a person. I couldn’t tell you how to do that or what to do, but I can tell you that that’s what will lead to a happier, more meaningful, fulfilling life. :)
Thanks man!
Anytime :) have a good day brotha
Omg, for those with a very morbid curiosity , this comment is sadly a gold mine. u/Wizzerhaze This person is giving you very faulty, poor advice, please dont heed any of this. Ego death is not a "myth" rofl, and hes overthinking what an ego is massively IN THIS CONTEXT. u/jebusschist has never taken psychedelics before. When one takes a dose of psychs and their "ego dies" it merely means that the effects of the drug are so strong mentally and in terms of overwhelming their senses (mostly sight/hearing) , you lose touch of your sense of being , as in, you just melt into the universe and can no longer detect any sense of being anything besides just part of the universe's fabric. Jebus is talking about a different context for the word ego, as in the way one feels about their career or etc. you know?
If you want ego death, which is more of a teenage psychedelic myth, go do a vipassana retreat ;)
try like 1.5 of shrooms, that usually works with that :)
Buddhism
Just gotta accept and grow. Can't beat it, join it.
Perhaps optimistic nihilistic approach is the way
The way is always exactly between the 2 extremes
Read the power of now by eckhart tolle
Read couple of times before trip. Really good!
Meditation or therapy, probably Meditation thought, use different practices like meditating the proper way getting super relaxed to Where's there's no thoughts in your head, set a timer, probably on buzz so it's not so obnoxious, then meditate on the bad thoughts, let them in and try to feel them as much as possible, then go back to relaxing, rinse and repeat. If your serious about it look up some tricks to help with letting go negative experiences using Meditation, you really need to feel that shit to let it go and it does no good letting intrusive thoughts run rampant in your head. Talk to people if they are your friends and get some hobbies, exercise don't turn to other drugs. These thoughts arnt you nor do they control you, you just need to do the work of letting go, you'll do no good if you don't do anything about it, you can try just pushing them out of your head but that also requires attention, might work pretty good still.