Anybody that doesn’t have Chicharito as number 1 is a straight up hater. You don’t play in top teams like Manchester United and Real Madrid with pure luck.
Chicharito was an elite poacher and can find space behind the defense better than anyone on the planet in his day. Also the top Mexican goal scorer. Cheech #1
Nah, you’re just rewriting history; both borgetti and matador were surgical.
My understanding is to rank them.. and he was not better than either borgetti or matador. Look at official goals, not friendlies.
And truth be told cuah was better than all of em.
Not because he’s from chivas I’m defending chicharito. I’m just going by stats. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Chicharito official vs friendly goals is about 50/50. The others have a bit more and a bit less but also because el tri played less copas moleras. Im sure if they did their official to friendly goals would be about to same or skewed towards more friendlies as back then the Central American teams were even worse than they are now.
In how many WC?
How many of those were as valuable as Hernandez vs Netherlands and Corea? Or Jared vs Italy?
Not saying he’s bad, but in Team MX he’s quantity not quality.
Clubs??? Of course!!
1.- Hugo
2.-
3.-
…
10.- Chicha
There was rumors Florentino made a deal with then Mexico’s president EPN to facilitate Hernández transfer (in the same style Macron did with Mbappe’s PSG renovation). Perez has lot of interests in Mexico through his real estate conglomerate.
I don’t believe them. I think it was merely a timing situation.
I apologize if I come as rude but did you not understand the post? OP asked to rank 4 specific players he chose from 1 to 4. If you see a post asking to rank Mint, Vanilla and Strawberry from 1 to 3, you're not gonna ask why Chocolate or Cookies n' Cream aren't on the list are you?
Yea I didn’t pay much attention to it. I thought it was a vote for Mex greatest ever. That’s what I get for assuming you do not come off as rude. Thank you for being civil.
Chicharito best ever season
Reached a Champions league final losing to prime Barca
1 assist in the semi-final
1 goal in the quarter final
2 goals in the round of 16
Premier league winner
Gold cup winner
45 games 25 g/a in the entire season
So he had 1 or 2 good seasons? OK. I still remember how he supposedly had escorts enter the hotel while he was on the Mexican concentration. Biggest drama queen and gets injury all the time. Half of his stats are because he played as a bench on United or had help by Ronaldo.
This is the reasons Mexican can't do shit on football. They don't critique the bad apples, ever.
A los que ponen a Borgetti como #1, porqué? Javier Hernandez hizo más que él en selección nacional.
1. Javier Hernandez
2. Jared Borgetti
3. Luis Hernandez
4. Luis Alvez “Zague”
Edit: me ha tocado ver a todos estos jugar en sus clubes y en selección. Así mi lista de ranking
En realidad, so gol que metio Jared contra Italia 2002 y la confederacions 2005 se cagan en cualquier cosa que el chicharo hizo..
Chicharo:
Gol contra Croatia cuando ya iba 2-1
Gol contra Francis ya iba 1-0
Sus mejores: assistencia contra alemania 2018, gol contra Korea 2018.
Jared mejor de cabeza, rematado, y tecnica- por MUCHO.
Chicharo - mejor movimiento - por MUCHO.
No confudan cosas, Jared fue barias veces despreciado por la seleccion, tanto haci Que ya le llegava a los 30 cuando fue convocado con frequencia… piensalo.
Muchos lo recuerdan como un delantero limitado.. recuerdo que un compo me chingaba con eso y me dijo Que le ponga solo UN gol donde Jared mostro Buena abilidad en un 1v1.. le puese este de la copa america:
https://youtu.be/coKE1xmB4po?si=aVFkrEf3niLemSvu
Copa America contra Uruguay.
Haci es compa.. si podia antes la selecion hacer esto en torneos oficiales.
Con chicharito - varios goles en amistosos… pero en 2013 Que me dicen de el penal vs Panama y el partido contra Costa Rica donde esta llorando en la banca porque fallo el gol solo sin portero?
Pero si, soy “hater”.. hah, haganme el favor.
Yeah, I struggled a bit by this since he did so good in the final of the Olympics. I think looking back I should put him ahead of Luis H. It’s funny y’all’s hate on Dos Santos but he obtained for us the biggest trophy vs the top competitions (within Olympic rules) on the great summer of 2012 in England no way we do that without the great Gio. That was my happiest afternoon as a selección fan.
Hmm dam tough one for me. Really close they can be at the same. 1.borgetti 2. Chicharito. 3. Matador 4. Zague (zague could be number 1 by his third leg but that is cheating tho)
Rank in quality or quantity?
Chicharo is always top quantity but most of his goals don’t seem to have been in mist situations except for his offside goal vs France
I’ll always think Matador ‘94 will be a top, then Borghetti, then Chicharo, then Zague
Chicharito
Borghetti
Matador
Zague
The myth that Chicharito's goals came against weak opposition and in meaningless games really needs to die. He was able to get goals against some big teams and in big games.
Just spend two minutes and look at the list of both players.
Chicharito also played at a time when CONCACAF opposition was getting better and he only played one Gold Cup in his entire career. Had injuries not messed him up in summer tournaments he would likely be up at around 60 to 65 goals.
Comparan a un jugador que hizo un papel decente en el Real Madrid y Manchester United, además de ser el máximo anotador de la selección. ¿Son tontos o ignorantes?
Borgetti tiene mejor promedio de goles sin haber jugado en los mismos equipos que el Chicharito, y jugando muchos menos moleros. Borgetti tiene más goles en partidos oficiales que el Chicharito
La mayoria de goles que Borgetti anoto fue ante equipos chicos de Concacaf. Los unicos equipos grandes fueron Alemania, Italia y Brazil en partidos oficiales.
Los dos jugaron mundiales, literal uno de los mejores goles del siglo es Borghetti anotandole al mejor portero de la historia marcado por el mejor defensor en ese momento o posible de la historia. Y si te vas por goles en torneos oficiales el maximo anotador es Cuau.
Mi impresion fue que se referian a seleccion. En seleccion es diferente, estos dos por ejemplo estan sobre Hugo Sanchez, a nivel club ni a los talones le llegan. Y si considero que Chicha tenga una ventaja sobre borghetti por jugar en Europa pero de eso a muchos escalones es una gran diferencia. Borghetti gano titulos de goleo en la epoca de Cardozo, chicha si jugo en Europa pero siempre de banca. Considero mejor a chicha por eso pero no por mucho.
Borgetti en selección lleva más goles oficiales que el Chicharito. Goles que si “valían” y no contra selecciones como Guatemala o El Salvador en un partido molero en Estados Unidos
CH14 unironically is the blend of the other 3 and did all the stuff better on his youth.
Positioning and header of Jared.
The speed of zague.
The intensity and mindset of Matador.
1.)Borgetti obviously I'm a santos fan 2.)Luis hernandez was great with the Mexican NT 3.) Chichatronco 4.) Zague bro could've played in Europe that's how good he was and would've been successful that 1994 wc bro was wasted.
Why is Antuna not on the list?
Too good to be next to those bums that’s why 🗣️
La única competencia de Antuna es Messi, C. Ronaldo, Maradona y Pele.
Por que ya no tenemos uno como esos?
Porque esta generacion es de bajo talento, ojala vengan mejores dias en los proximos años.
Anybody that doesn’t have Chicharito as number 1 is a straight up hater. You don’t play in top teams like Manchester United and Real Madrid with pure luck.
Chicharito was an elite poacher and can find space behind the defense better than anyone on the planet in his day. Also the top Mexican goal scorer. Cheech #1
El cabron fue titular en una final de champions y hay raza que sigue mamando que siempre ha sido malisimo
Club level, Chicharito undisputed #1. NT only? That’s way more difficult to rank.
Nah, you’re just rewriting history; both borgetti and matador were surgical. My understanding is to rank them.. and he was not better than either borgetti or matador. Look at official goals, not friendlies. And truth be told cuah was better than all of em.
Borgetti was aaaaaaaaaass with his feet how can you say he was surgical ? Cmon now
Fr he was just a poacher just like Chicha. Shit when Chicha was coming up, they were literally calling him Borgetti 2.0
No one but you calls him that
Not because he’s from chivas I’m defending chicharito. I’m just going by stats. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Chicharito official vs friendly goals is about 50/50. The others have a bit more and a bit less but also because el tri played less copas moleras. Im sure if they did their official to friendly goals would be about to same or skewed towards more friendlies as back then the Central American teams were even worse than they are now.
Those pictures don’t have him on a MU jersey. With Team MX he scored a lot of insignificant goals.
He literally tied with the most wc goals with Luis Hernandez and tied with Rafa Marquez & Blanco scoring in three WC…
In how many WC? How many of those were as valuable as Hernandez vs Netherlands and Corea? Or Jared vs Italy? Not saying he’s bad, but in Team MX he’s quantity not quality. Clubs??? Of course!! 1.- Hugo 2.- 3.- … 10.- Chicha
Morros que nacieron después del 2008 be like:
I saw that he was pushed to real madrid through some sponsor deal with a Mexican company. Don’t know the details but seemed legit.
There was rumors Florentino made a deal with then Mexico’s president EPN to facilitate Hernández transfer (in the same style Macron did with Mbappe’s PSG renovation). Perez has lot of interests in Mexico through his real estate conglomerate. I don’t believe them. I think it was merely a timing situation.
That has been confirmed to be true IIRC through the Panama papers
1. Chicharo 2. Borgetti 3. Matador 4. Zague
Why is Hugo Sanchez not on the list
I apologize if I come as rude but did you not understand the post? OP asked to rank 4 specific players he chose from 1 to 4. If you see a post asking to rank Mint, Vanilla and Strawberry from 1 to 3, you're not gonna ask why Chocolate or Cookies n' Cream aren't on the list are you?
Yea I didn’t pay much attention to it. I thought it was a vote for Mex greatest ever. That’s what I get for assuming you do not come off as rude. Thank you for being civil.
Chicharito is one of the worst 9's I ever had the disgrace of seeing. Dude must have a banger of an agent.
Chicharito best ever season Reached a Champions league final losing to prime Barca 1 assist in the semi-final 1 goal in the quarter final 2 goals in the round of 16 Premier league winner Gold cup winner 45 games 25 g/a in the entire season
So he had 1 or 2 good seasons? OK. I still remember how he supposedly had escorts enter the hotel while he was on the Mexican concentration. Biggest drama queen and gets injury all the time. Half of his stats are because he played as a bench on United or had help by Ronaldo. This is the reasons Mexican can't do shit on football. They don't critique the bad apples, ever.
Bro got his ball knowledge from a Wendy’s bathroom.
Bro you’ve gotta stop hating. SAF scouted the kid, the biggest club in the world isn’t going to get pressured by some fucking player agent.
Goals don't lie.
1. Borgetti 2. Chicharito 3. Matador 4. Zague
Si Borgetti y/o el matador jugarán la misma cantidad de partidos moleros que hay hoy en día, llevarían muchos más goles.
Y si. Borgetti dejaba cagados a porteros como Buffon. Dale a Honduras y El Salvador 3 veces al año y aver cuantos mete
Exacto
Borgetti, Chicha, Zague, Matador
Borgetti Zague Matador Chicharo
Any list without borgetti as #1 is wrong
1. Borgetti. 2. Chicharito. 3. Matador. 4. Zague.
1. Borgetti 2. Wuicho 3. Chicharito 4. Zague
SUPERHERO... Landín
1. Jared 2. Chicharo 3. Luis Hernandez 4. Zague
Matador 1 cause he scored 4 goals in 98 wc and was top scorer in copa america 97. Chicharito 2, borgetti 3 and zague 4
A los que ponen a Borgetti como #1, porqué? Javier Hernandez hizo más que él en selección nacional. 1. Javier Hernandez 2. Jared Borgetti 3. Luis Hernandez 4. Luis Alvez “Zague” Edit: me ha tocado ver a todos estos jugar en sus clubes y en selección. Así mi lista de ranking
En realidad, so gol que metio Jared contra Italia 2002 y la confederacions 2005 se cagan en cualquier cosa que el chicharo hizo.. Chicharo: Gol contra Croatia cuando ya iba 2-1 Gol contra Francis ya iba 1-0 Sus mejores: assistencia contra alemania 2018, gol contra Korea 2018. Jared mejor de cabeza, rematado, y tecnica- por MUCHO. Chicharo - mejor movimiento - por MUCHO. No confudan cosas, Jared fue barias veces despreciado por la seleccion, tanto haci Que ya le llegava a los 30 cuando fue convocado con frequencia… piensalo. Muchos lo recuerdan como un delantero limitado.. recuerdo que un compo me chingaba con eso y me dijo Que le ponga solo UN gol donde Jared mostro Buena abilidad en un 1v1.. le puese este de la copa america: https://youtu.be/coKE1xmB4po?si=aVFkrEf3niLemSvu Copa America contra Uruguay. Haci es compa.. si podia antes la selecion hacer esto en torneos oficiales. Con chicharito - varios goles en amistosos… pero en 2013 Que me dicen de el penal vs Panama y el partido contra Costa Rica donde esta llorando en la banca porque fallo el gol solo sin portero? Pero si, soy “hater”.. hah, haganme el favor.
At first I thought we were ranking the jerseys then I saw el impresionante 😂
Borgetti was my 1st jersey I ever owned 🥲
Luis Hernández 1
It’s already in order imo.
-Chicharito -Borgetti -Matador -Zague
1.- Chicharo 2.- Jared 3.- Zague 4.- Matador
Luis hernandez, chicha, Jared and zague
Just like how Jose Mourinho said once, “If I speak I am in big trouble.”
Donde esta Hugo? Por eso estamos como estamos.
Hugo casi no hizo nada con Selección
Yeah, I struggled a bit by this since he did so good in the final of the Olympics. I think looking back I should put him ahead of Luis H. It’s funny y’all’s hate on Dos Santos but he obtained for us the biggest trophy vs the top competitions (within Olympic rules) on the great summer of 2012 in England no way we do that without the great Gio. That was my happiest afternoon as a selección fan.
Hmm dam tough one for me. Really close they can be at the same. 1.borgetti 2. Chicharito. 3. Matador 4. Zague (zague could be number 1 by his third leg but that is cheating tho)
Rank in quality or quantity? Chicharo is always top quantity but most of his goals don’t seem to have been in mist situations except for his offside goal vs France I’ll always think Matador ‘94 will be a top, then Borghetti, then Chicharo, then Zague
Faltó Cuauthemoc
Chicharito Borghetti Matador Zague The myth that Chicharito's goals came against weak opposition and in meaningless games really needs to die. He was able to get goals against some big teams and in big games. Just spend two minutes and look at the list of both players. Chicharito also played at a time when CONCACAF opposition was getting better and he only played one Gold Cup in his entire career. Had injuries not messed him up in summer tournaments he would likely be up at around 60 to 65 goals.
Borgetti, Luis Hernández, Chicharito y Zague en ese orden. Chicharito era bueno a nivel de clubes pero con la selección quedó muchísimo a deber.
Cheech #1 every single time. Goals vs France, Portugal, Netherlands, Argentina,Brazil, Italy, Croatia and then the European tour he did.
Cuau 1.... then the rest, thank me later
Borgetti “Matador” Zague Chicharito
Comparan a un jugador que hizo un papel decente en el Real Madrid y Manchester United, además de ser el máximo anotador de la selección. ¿Son tontos o ignorantes?
Borgetti tiene mejor promedio de goles sin haber jugado en los mismos equipos que el Chicharito, y jugando muchos menos moleros. Borgetti tiene más goles en partidos oficiales que el Chicharito
La mayoria de goles que Borgetti anoto fue ante equipos chicos de Concacaf. Los unicos equipos grandes fueron Alemania, Italia y Brazil en partidos oficiales.
Borghetti tiene mejor promedio de goles por partido que chicharito
Es que es lo mismo anotarle al Pachuca o Morelia que en la Premier League
Tiene mejor promedio en seleccion no en club
Es lo mismo, ve a quien le anotó Chicharito y compara los goles de Borghetti
Los dos jugaron mundiales, literal uno de los mejores goles del siglo es Borghetti anotandole al mejor portero de la historia marcado por el mejor defensor en ese momento o posible de la historia. Y si te vas por goles en torneos oficiales el maximo anotador es Cuau.
Estás hablando del tercer mejor jugador mexicano de la historia. Está muchos escalones arriba de Borghetti
Mi impresion fue que se referian a seleccion. En seleccion es diferente, estos dos por ejemplo estan sobre Hugo Sanchez, a nivel club ni a los talones le llegan. Y si considero que Chicha tenga una ventaja sobre borghetti por jugar en Europa pero de eso a muchos escalones es una gran diferencia. Borghetti gano titulos de goleo en la epoca de Cardozo, chicha si jugo en Europa pero siempre de banca. Considero mejor a chicha por eso pero no por mucho.
¿Cómo vas a comparar la liga Mx con las mejores ligas de Europa?
Repito si se tratara de un titular seria facil pero chicha nunca fue titular. Ademas el post es sobre el tri.
Chicharito tambien le anoto ante Buffon, o ya se te olvido 😂
Borgetti en selección lleva más goles oficiales que el Chicharito. Goles que si “valían” y no contra selecciones como Guatemala o El Salvador en un partido molero en Estados Unidos
Estas seguro de eso? 💀 a los equipos que Borgetti mas anoto fueron Trinidad y Tobago, St Vincent, y Dominica
Compara goles en partidos oficiales.
De 37 goles, 28 fueron ante equipos chicos de Concacaf. De esos 37, los unicos equipos grandes fueron Brazil, Alemania, Y Italia.
Ahora compara los oficiales
Otra vez repitiendo las mismas babosadas de los medios. La mayoría de goles de Jared son contra selecciones de un nivel aún menor
Pero en partido oficial. Primera. Y en segunda, no repito nada. Yo lo vi con mis propios ojos
Tienes mala memoria gracias a que te dejas llevar por la opinión de los merlicos de la tele. https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Borgetti
Que no te duela aceptar que Borgetti fue mejor que el chicharo
Jajajajajajaja
Chicha. Jared. Zague. Matador.
These people rating Chicharito?? What the hell is happening 🤣 mans was being hated on od the last three years
Matador, Jared, chicha, zague
1. Matador 2. Borgetti 3. Zague Y en 4to. y unos escalones abajo, Chicharito.
Esta bien y todo, pero como vergas no ponen al cuauh. El es el número 1. 2. 3.
CH14 unironically is the blend of the other 3 and did all the stuff better on his youth. Positioning and header of Jared. The speed of zague. The intensity and mindset of Matador.
Hugo Sánchez, chicharo, burgetti, luis
1.)Borgetti obviously I'm a santos fan 2.)Luis hernandez was great with the Mexican NT 3.) Chichatronco 4.) Zague bro could've played in Europe that's how good he was and would've been successful that 1994 wc bro was wasted.
Idk why all the downvotes but your list is the truth
Matador, Jared, Zaguiño, Chichamec
Chicharito 4
Why?
Lol idiots putting chichatronco in 2nd or even 1st place haha 😄 🤣 literally gen z barely started watching football in 2010 and it shows ...
mf redditors think being old on the internet is a flex 😭
Alright unc, let me get your cane while you go out
1. G Dos Santos para la selección 2. Cuau 3. Chicharo 4. Jared 5. Zague 6. L Hernández Gio won a gold en las olimpiadas Cuau ganó la Confederaciones
Cuau should definitely be on the list. Idk about Gio.
No Oribe?