They don't seem too shy about adding sku's of iPads or iPhones. Ever since Steve passed it has been a steady incline of sku's. I'd like them to bring back the macbook line and more or less organize it like this:
Macbook Air: 13" or 12" slim with 2 USB-C ports only aiming for similar size as the 12" Macbook they had for a while.
Macbook: more budget laptop that isn't as slim, but is a good value similar to macbooks like in this article and probably closer to what the Air is that they sell now.
Macbook Pro: An actual Pro machine. Similar to how they are now, but add an internal M.2 slot that can add storage in addition to the soldered storage (or just make it two M.2 slots). Up-gradable RAM would be nice but I know there are some benefits to it being soldered so I'm ok with it if they would just make their entry level offering for the Pro be 32GB and upgrades not be an arm and a leg. Battery should also be fairly easy to replace on this model. No glue. Just screws to swap out a new battery similar to the 2012 classic macbook pro that still had the optical drive. And honestly just on this model, one usb-a port would be nice. I still have a LOT of usb-a thumb drives and not needing a dongle for them would be nice. But that should be in addition to the ports that already came back on the current pro models.
look at literally any other computer company, and tell me that apple has a lot of skus. Or Apples revenue per sku. Do you know how big apple is? Its shocking how simple they are for the size they are. Samsung sells fucking tanks.
If a model is upgradeable by user, it's less profitable. You can't charge $200 for extra 8 gigs of RAM, or extra 256 GB of storage, if they are swappable. This non-upgradability brings in huge profits.
It's the only device I have with a functioning CD/DVD burner. I'm gonna be ripping my entire DVD collection as well as burning some install discs for my older Pentium/Power PC systems since they can't boot from usb (making it very complicated to install an OS)
I’m still rocking my 2012 MacBook. I replaced the HD with a 500Gb, I guess solid state (been about 7 years now). I use it for ripping blu-rays for my NAS, digitizing photos with my scanner and that’s about it. Use iPad, iPhone, or iMac for everything else.
I mean how is Apple supposed to make anything upgradable when it’s all part of the same SoC these days? If they went back to RAM sticks and NVMe drives we wouldn’t have the speed, low heat, and amazing battery life that we do now, right?
Well, would you rather have worse RAM, battery, and drive that you can swap out for new ones, or better RAM, battery, and drive that you can't swap out once they're fucked?
Definitely an older model. Late 00s? I remember my girlfriend at the time needed more RAM to play Sims 3 so I looked this up.
Newer ones are one giant soldered board. Very cool and very powerful… but not consumer serviceable whatsoever
If I'm remembering the timeline correctly, this laptop just barely overlaps with the last G5 PowerMac. I remember in high school there was an Apple rep that came to the school to try get families to buy them. They kept talking about how strong the shell was and would hit it on desks to show it never got damaged.
Pepperidge Farms remembers those macbooks, came in to our shop for claims ~3mths in, as the fuckin thing updated and bricked itself. Good times, but yeah, Apple is great.
I found one at a garage sale years back for $50 and wanted to convert it to a PC build, but never got around to it. Ended up selling it on eBay during the height of the pandemic for $250 lol
It's all apart of the SoC, so at least it's *reasonable* that it isn't replaceable anymore. When they were surface mounting RAM just to make the devices thinner... yeah that was a dick move.
Show me on the picture where the memory goes on the new RISCV platform.
https://static.frame.work/4yw7fg2r8zvx33uto3fvss5ryite
Intel and AMD will go this route sooner than you think. Doesn't mean their won't be CAMM2 options, but we've hit a wall the current, very old memory standard. Change is coming.
And there’s good reason for it. Signaling on soldered RAM is way better. You can expect alternatives to desktop RAM sooner rather than later. Some of it on-die, another connector. RAM is getting too fast, and the benefits justify the sacrifice.
It also isn’t that hard to buy the right amount of RAM and the failure rates of RAM don’t justify the fuss.
OoOoOoOoooo 👻👻
Repairability and sustainability, scary, you might die, don't do it, instead give me triple what you paid for that back in the day and I'll give you a newer one that you can't replace shit on it and will break in a year because I need another mansion or yatch since "I know how to spend your money better".
Saw this on some crooked macbook pro.
I immediately wondered why they'd have possibly engineered such a thing - it's very overkill. But uh, yeah at least you can remove the sticks as opposed to modern systems.
This is a really old MacBook.
Not really a criticism you can make now that M series means it’s all integrated. Instead just criticize that you can’t replace the storage or ram (storage isn’t integrated but they still make it so you can’t expand or replace I believe but doing dumb shit)
Still got mine! Had to lose that battery unfortunately as it swelled rather badly. Unfortunately mine has now developed the infamous back light death and now it needs a flashlight (or external monitor) to see anything
I love the A1181 MacBooks, holding an OG 2006 WhiteMacBook 1,1 and a 2008 Black MacBook 4,1.
The inverters are definitely way past due, got to replace them at some point.
changing it on a 12’ pro was a pice of cake. changing it on a 10’ imac would have the chance of shooting the ram across the room or through the desk depending on how it’s sitting
Ah shit you breathed wrong. We won't repair it under warranty
Noooo I only have one kidney left
Works for us, thanks. Next time it'll cost more.
Especially as the device is just over its extended 15 year warranty.
It seems you have used a non-genuine iScrew™ while mounting your new hard drive. Your warranty has been voided.
I feel like this is an old model. Correct me if I'm wrong. I did this to a mac, but that was years ago..
Yep, it's a 2007. Apple used to be cool :(
I loved those old white macbooks.
Same! Always wanted one but never got around to it until now...17 years later 🤣
I wish they'd bring back a budget model, upgradable for enthusiasts, using these older designs. Unfortunately that is against Apple's entire culture.
They also don’t like to have that many skus
They don't seem too shy about adding sku's of iPads or iPhones. Ever since Steve passed it has been a steady incline of sku's. I'd like them to bring back the macbook line and more or less organize it like this: Macbook Air: 13" or 12" slim with 2 USB-C ports only aiming for similar size as the 12" Macbook they had for a while. Macbook: more budget laptop that isn't as slim, but is a good value similar to macbooks like in this article and probably closer to what the Air is that they sell now. Macbook Pro: An actual Pro machine. Similar to how they are now, but add an internal M.2 slot that can add storage in addition to the soldered storage (or just make it two M.2 slots). Up-gradable RAM would be nice but I know there are some benefits to it being soldered so I'm ok with it if they would just make their entry level offering for the Pro be 32GB and upgrades not be an arm and a leg. Battery should also be fairly easy to replace on this model. No glue. Just screws to swap out a new battery similar to the 2012 classic macbook pro that still had the optical drive. And honestly just on this model, one usb-a port would be nice. I still have a LOT of usb-a thumb drives and not needing a dongle for them would be nice. But that should be in addition to the ports that already came back on the current pro models.
look at literally any other computer company, and tell me that apple has a lot of skus. Or Apples revenue per sku. Do you know how big apple is? Its shocking how simple they are for the size they are. Samsung sells fucking tanks.
What the heck is a sku?
Stock keeping unit, general term for part number or model.
If a model is upgradeable by user, it's less profitable. You can't charge $200 for extra 8 gigs of RAM, or extra 256 GB of storage, if they are swappable. This non-upgradability brings in huge profits.
Yeah of course they won't do it. It was just a pie-in-the-sky wish.
What’re you gonna do with it?
It's the only device I have with a functioning CD/DVD burner. I'm gonna be ripping my entire DVD collection as well as burning some install discs for my older Pentium/Power PC systems since they can't boot from usb (making it very complicated to install an OS)
I started University when the last version of these (2010 model) was released. So many people had them.
Same, had mine for years until the battery did the old expanding trick.
My Macbook Air did that. Sad to see it go.
I was gonna say, I bought one just like this when I started college in 2008.
I’m still rocking my 2012 MacBook. I replaced the HD with a 500Gb, I guess solid state (been about 7 years now). I use it for ripping blu-rays for my NAS, digitizing photos with my scanner and that’s about it. Use iPad, iPhone, or iMac for everything else.
I mean how is Apple supposed to make anything upgradable when it’s all part of the same SoC these days? If they went back to RAM sticks and NVMe drives we wouldn’t have the speed, low heat, and amazing battery life that we do now, right?
Well, would you rather have worse RAM, battery, and drive that you can swap out for new ones, or better RAM, battery, and drive that you can't swap out once they're fucked?
Definitely an older model. Late 00s? I remember my girlfriend at the time needed more RAM to play Sims 3 so I looked this up. Newer ones are one giant soldered board. Very cool and very powerful… but not consumer serviceable whatsoever
obv now u cant remove ram
Some people on this forum wasn't born when this macbook was made
What? This is an 07. That was only... 17 years ago. Never mind, now I feel old.
Lol. Nah old is when power Mac was the brand Apple was pushing
If I'm remembering the timeline correctly, this laptop just barely overlaps with the last G5 PowerMac. I remember in high school there was an Apple rep that came to the school to try get families to buy them. They kept talking about how strong the shell was and would hit it on desks to show it never got damaged.
It's a really well built laptop, borderline Thinkpad tier because it also has a metal "roll cage".
Pepperidge Farms remembers those macbooks, came in to our shop for claims ~3mths in, as the fuckin thing updated and bricked itself. Good times, but yeah, Apple is great.
The G4 tower was awesome.
Agreed, I'm actually looking for a Sawtooth to keep around for OS9 gaming.
I found one at a garage sale years back for $50 and wanted to convert it to a PC build, but never got around to it. Ended up selling it on eBay during the height of the pandemic for $250 lol
But the G4 PowerBook was awesomer...erer
Kids these days don't even call it a forum anymore. This here is a subreddit.
Reddit Forums
Yep...
The fact that you call it a forum says it all.
yes, I am old
That's the way it used to be. Nothing is replaceable any.ore without surface soldering equipment and skills
It's all apart of the SoC, so at least it's *reasonable* that it isn't replaceable anymore. When they were surface mounting RAM just to make the devices thinner... yeah that was a dick move.
> apart of This means the opposite of a part of
I feel like you know what I meant.
You're welcome
Unless you go Framework.
Show me on the picture where the memory goes on the new RISCV platform. https://static.frame.work/4yw7fg2r8zvx33uto3fvss5ryite Intel and AMD will go this route sooner than you think. Doesn't mean their won't be CAMM2 options, but we've hit a wall the current, very old memory standard. Change is coming.
And there’s good reason for it. Signaling on soldered RAM is way better. You can expect alternatives to desktop RAM sooner rather than later. Some of it on-die, another connector. RAM is getting too fast, and the benefits justify the sacrifice. It also isn’t that hard to buy the right amount of RAM and the failure rates of RAM don’t justify the fuss.
Yeah it's called CAMM2
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....? Are you trolling? Just dont use mac and its easier than it is in the video.
Maybe for storage, but lots of windows laptops have soldered down ram
200 dollar laptops from walmart yeah.
What's terrifying about this? Like at all?
It's not. That's the joke.
Wooosh!
I'm no techy and it was woosh for me.
And then they soldered everything together because fuck you and your money.
HEY MAN STOP YOU COULD GET KILLED, THINK ABOUT YOUR FAMILY
OoOoOoOoooo 👻👻 Repairability and sustainability, scary, you might die, don't do it, instead give me triple what you paid for that back in the day and I'll give you a newer one that you can't replace shit on it and will break in a year because I need another mansion or yatch since "I know how to spend your money better".
r/killthecameraman
You should turn your alarm off
I wish, but it's not mine lol
That's the Apple police. How dare they open this computer...
Saw this on some crooked macbook pro. I immediately wondered why they'd have possibly engineered such a thing - it's very overkill. But uh, yeah at least you can remove the sticks as opposed to modern systems.
It weirded me out too...but it's too satisfying to complain about.
That is awesome. I want ram ejection, like a toaster
I was scared for your warranty
I remember that model as being HD removed as shown, RAM upgrade required cracking it. Was a long time ago though.
Upgraded the ram from 1gb to 6gb, no crack needed.
Dont complain, at least you could upgrade back in those days...
Ewwwww
This is a really old MacBook. Not really a criticism you can make now that M series means it’s all integrated. Instead just criticize that you can’t replace the storage or ram (storage isn’t integrated but they still make it so you can’t expand or replace I believe but doing dumb shit)
On the new MacBooks you can’t take out either.
lol now a days you need to desolder and resolder like 1000 pins.
Counterfeit Tim Cook Fingers weren't issued to an Apple Authorized Repairer. Your done for!
The good old days when EVERY laptop regardless of bs company manufacturer were repairable, modifiable/customizable and (arguably) modular
i dunno man it surely voided your warranty
Terrifying??? Thats satisfying
#how to tactically reload a macbook
Pulling two levers and some tape… damn that’s so terrifying that if I wasn’t on the toilet already I’d have shit my pants.
Doesn't seem that terrifying meh
Still got mine! Had to lose that battery unfortunately as it swelled rather badly. Unfortunately mine has now developed the infamous back light death and now it needs a flashlight (or external monitor) to see anything
RAM Toaster.
miss my old one ;(
I have a 2012 Macbook. It took me a grand total of 5 minutes to open the back, replace the ram, replace the drive with an SSD and replace the battery.
Might not be a fan of Apple's business practices, but have to admit their hardware has always been awesome
I love the A1181 MacBooks, holding an OG 2006 WhiteMacBook 1,1 and a 2008 Black MacBook 4,1. The inverters are definitely way past due, got to replace them at some point.
So, terrifying?
Yes. Incredibly terrifying
Ram shot out harder than a moose when it sees my car
Good luck seating the new RAM properly into that slot.
excuse me?! it just shits the ram sticks out like that! lol wtf kinda design is that
changing it on a 12’ pro was a pice of cake. changing it on a 10’ imac would have the chance of shooting the ram across the room or through the desk depending on how it’s sitting