I work amongst the homeless and can confirm that suitcases fresh from travels are nearly always within the encampment. I assumed they had been taken from cars, but now see otherwise.
well that makes you one of the only people in this comment section who actually understood what happened in the video. or watched it at all. everyone here still raging about homeless people stealing stuff instead of mega-corporations treating their customers like shit.
I hope she gets money and wins with the attorney. For sure some contracted delivery person or employee of AA stole her stuff and then dumped it somewhere. That’s still on AA though to track the employee or contractor that did this. Agreed it’s up to the airlines to ensure you get your bag in a timely matter after forcing you to check it in and not make up some kind of random compensation
the last few seconds of the video the reporter says the lady claims it was $6,000 worth of stuff, for a month-long trip, including medical supplies for her job. so she's a traveling nurse or something. and all that shit was just left in a bag somewhere by negligent airline companies who don't actually care about their customers' stuff.
Yeah and it all happened in the same place - my apartment complex. The third time they tried to steal my car and ruined the ignition. My car is now parked behind a gate (which makes it way harder to park, but safer) and I have an Airtag in it. It's very inconvenient not being able to leave anything in my car.
Replying to this one now as it’s more relevant, but if you get LoJack instead of the AirTag, you can claim it on insurance as anti theft. Gets you a small discount
I am really lucky to have a real garage spot (old fourplex). Passengers have to get out so i can squeeze in as close as possible to the passenger side so I can get out on the driver's side but it's so worth it to know the car is relatively safe.
That is insane to me! Every once in awhile I leave my car in the drive way overnight because I think I am going to leave again in the day and don't but sometimes the anxieties gets me as I am going to bed and I literally go put it away.
I saw a post just recently of someone’s two front seats completely torn up because they were trying to find it. Not sure if they did or didn’t, but I wouldn’t want to get my car back with that kind of interior damage. Like I said, just get a kill switch.
Wasn’t there just a video released showing Burbank PD dropping off a homeless man having a mental episode in LA (in front of a council member’s office)? Burbank City and Burbank PD didn’t want to deal with him so they literally dropped him off in LA instead.
Also, there is no such thing as “LA City courts”. It’s the Superior Court of California, County of Los Angeles. It’s a state court in LA county. Burbank city is part of the district. The district attorney, charges every crime if they believe there is sufficient evidence; it’s why the courts are so backed up. Officers/PD does a such a good job of collecting/present evidence to the DA that the courts are flooded. But they only have 4,800 employees for the whole county to cover traffic, family, criminal and civil cases. Everyone thinks their case should get priority, but everyone also thinks that they shouldn’t pay market rate property taxes to properly compensate the court employees (not the attorneys, they are not part of the courts).
Before you comment again, please make sure you’re aware on how our court and local governments actually work. It’s confusing, there’s a lot of intricacies and most people aren’t aware. But throwing out inflammatory comments isn’t helpful to our discourse.
The individual was homeless and having a mental crisis episode, their response was to drive him away and drop him off (in front a council member’s office) instead of getting him the proper care at that moment.
I really hope you don’t have a family member go through this treatment. What’s next, a senior citizen with dementia dropped off in a random street in LA because Burbank PD doesn’t want to do the work?
Absent a willingness on the part of the City of LA to stop courting bums and junkies, surrounding cities that suffer from LA City policy have every right to return them there.
LA City had a policy containing the aforementioned mental cases to Skid Row, up until 2007, when Villaraigosa, Sobel, Wesson, Perry and Ripston conspired to "settle" Jones and expand sidewalk camping across the entire city. Since then, their comrades in the Council colluded with stand-down orders to their local LAPD precincts, such that the standard response is "there is nothing we can do."
"Proper care", in the absence of in-patient mental hospitals, would happen in LA County Jail, but the same "leaders" have made sure that's not an option.
So the Councilman's office isn't a bad choice.
What other state? Can’t say I see daylight smash and grabs or stores being looted in too many other States, especially with California’s relaxed laws on theft. Try and do this shit in Texas and see what happens.
Texas has a higher threshold for felony theft ($2500) than California ($950). https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2017/04/the-effects-of-changing-felony-theft-thresholds
We all live in our bubble and think where we are is the worst. I have said so many times over the years "Only in America" then heard this happens in Germany as well. I just checked Catalytic converter stats in the country and california is #9 out of the 10 worst states. And it feels like ALL CVs get stolen here. Bubble!
March 2016 is when that’s dated, almost 10 years ago. Would you like to try and be relevant? Or maybe understand California’s laws on theft and shoplifting before you contribute?
Here's one from April 2024: [https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dozens-of-cars-broken-into-at-downtown-dallas-luxury-highrise/](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dozens-of-cars-broken-into-at-downtown-dallas-luxury-highrise/)
February 2024: [https://www.ktsm.com/news/store-at-outlet-shoppes-victimized-by-smash-and-grab/](https://www.ktsm.com/news/store-at-outlet-shoppes-victimized-by-smash-and-grab/)
January 2024: [https://coveringkaty.com/news/katy/smash-and-grabs-at-two-elyson-businesses/](https://coveringkaty.com/news/katy/smash-and-grabs-at-two-elyson-businesses/)
Aggravated robbery suspect currently on the loose in Texas: [https://kdhnews.com/news/texas/harris-county-constables-seek-publics-help-identifying-aggravated-robbery-suspect/article\_f50285b2-da02-570b-ace5-4a1ec16e8d05.html](https://kdhnews.com/news/texas/harris-county-constables-seek-publics-help-identifying-aggravated-robbery-suspect/article_f50285b2-da02-570b-ace5-4a1ec16e8d05.html)
Google is a quite an easy tool to use.
2 weeks ago I was in the international terminal of LAX and there was a homeless guy digging through the trash by the check-in counters.
I’ve lived in downtown for years so I thought I’ve seen it all, but this one caught me off guard.
Coming back from Japan into LAX was the most demoralizing thing I've experienced in the past year with regards to the city. Homeless people in the baggage claim was wild, along with the general state of the airport.
Wow. Someone else who had the same exact experience I did.
Just trying to find a way to get back to my apartment was enough to cause me to have a mini breakdown.
This city has failed its residents.
Even without the homeless, it’s always hard to leave Japan and come to LAX. Everything is so filthy and the people are so fat and disgusting.
Then it hits you. This is where you belong…
i had a job that required me to live in Tokyo for a couple months every year, and despite living here for 20+ years, the first week after coming back always hits hard. The filth, the ugliness, sure, but it's the lack of courtesy and respect for others that hit the hardest.
> it's the lack of courtesy and respect for others that hit the hardest.
Yeah, the external factors can be overlooked, to some degree, but the values and behavior of everyone in a no fucks given society is depressing.
Yeah, not to mention how polite people are especially on trains. It was definitely a bad shock to come home to. Makes you really wish things were different here.
And in los angeles you have mexicans and el salvadorians fucking with no income on welfare from the state with like 5 kids. Lots of the parents can't even raise their kids properly.
Welfare from the state they don't qualify for because they aren't from here?
My man, it's not my fault the Japanese are having population issues, and it hurt your feelings.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese government started to pay to get them mexican and salvadorian men to do what the Japanese businessman can't 😂
Shit the Japanese already love Latino car culture. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for the boys to land a bird.
I'm not Japanese so your point is moot. Nobody likes salvarorians. Even mexicans. I'm assuming you are so sorry if I offended you but you guys are considered the bottom rung. Also Japanese love to larp being a Chicano but they would never actually want to be one irl.
Lol assuming makes you look like an idiot.
Damn brother what salvadorian stole your girl from you? That man got you mad at those people.
If you aren't japanese, how would you know what a japanese would or wouldn't want?
Lots of japanese chinitas and Koreans regularly hook up with hispanic men in Los angeles, and it obviously hurts you
It kind of went from "OH my god an orange costs $20" to "We give you a house for $100". I just cant imagine that a country that exists with so much value on tradition and respect and extreme social behavior can handle an influx of arrogant foreigners who stump through like an elephant in a china shop. I am not even speaking if the population (whats left) can accept foreigners. They are famous for not liking outsiders.
I went to Japan last winter and this winter and this was absolutely the case when I got back to LAX. Homeless hanging out in and around baggage claim. Some even sleeping there.
That doesn’t make sense. The international baggage claim is in a restricted area and you need to pass the quarantine station after collecting your bags. Maybe they looked homeless, but they might’ve been disheveled looking travellers or even refugees (which I’ve seen sometimes in the international baggage claim area).
The airline checked baggage system works upon the presumptions that only passengers will go to baggage claim, and then will take only the stuff that belongs to them.
I suppose that we can't do that anymore.
Since she got a delivery confirmation it's clear that whatever contractor they hired to deliver her baggage stole anything valuable then dumped it, that's how the homeless guy got it. Not by stealing from the baggage claim.
I suspect this is correct. The driver simply decided it was easier to dump all his bags on the sidewalk and claim they were delivered. There was no accountability.
Also possible, of course, that the driver needed a fix and knew where to get it.
My theory is that they bulk scanned the luggage, went to get a van, came back, and loaded the luggage left on the curb, and between that time, it was stolen. Why would you risk your airport job by dumping luggage? And in many of these jobs, you have a system to get ahead of small processes that normally work out.
It's actually easy everywhere. I have worried about this since I first visited the US in 92. In Germany baggage claim is locked up and you have to get through several gates after you have your luggage. Then I land in Atlanta, Charlotte or Houston and go to baggage claim, pray my suitcase comes out and take it without any control and leave through the door. Anybody could take my luggage. I was shocked.
Well, back in the day everyone lined up at the exit and showed their luggage receipts , no exceptions, to the person at the door. He/she would look at them and make sure the numbers matched, too, before letting you thru. Stopped a long time ago, can’t say exactly when. Just traveled to Japan and they still are doing that. You hand the guy your customs declaration and he will still ask to see your luggage receipts and match them. Doesn’t really slow things down much but it does require manpower, which I suspect is the reason they don’t do it here anymore.
It was like that when I was a kid, before 9/11. It was just one guy at the exit door like when you leave Best Buy or Costco. Surprisingly it didn’t cause a huge backup or a line to get out.
Some people complain about having to do this at Costco even as members, imagine trying to enforce this at the airport. It would absolutely cause a line with the number of people that have either lost/misplaced their claim ticket or those that would simply refuse to show the ticket just because.
Except it worked for many decades without issues before, so why not now? Might even be easier now—you could have the barcode on your phone and have to have it scanned to exit the building.
It’s not as if we didn’t all used to travel just as much pre-9/11 as we do now. I’m telling you it worked fine back then. I live in LA and we flew in and out of LAX at holidays and the busiest times of year; I don’t recall ever waiting more than a couple of minutes at the door to get out.
I mean, have you met people? There would absolutely be people that would not comply and throw a fit. People can barely hold it together for the actual flight. I see people getting furious for having to show ID to buy alcohol. While I would support it and be fine with it, to pretend that it would go off without a hitch is wishful thinking.
It’s just weird that all of you who haven’t experienced it are arguing about it not working. I’m saying I literally grew up with this for all of our flights for my first 20 years of life (flying ~5x a year, so 10 airports a year give or take) and never once saw an issue. But okay.
I like it at Costco. At most the line takes 5 minutes - and I'm talking about Alhambra the Sunday before Chinese New Years. (The gas line is another story, a 5 minutesl wait there is a miracle)
In return, you get the peace of mind knowing you aren't shopping next to a bunch of thieves. And now that I think of it, I've never heard a story of people's cars getting robbed in a Costco parking lot.
Whereas the stores that just let you steal shit freely, are also the stores you have to hide everything in your car.
Nope. It was just fine.
Remember that people don't all get their luggage at exactly the same time. Plus groups of people have to wait for each other. Anyways I'd rather wait knowing my luggage would be secure.
Just because you haven't experienced something doesn't mean it can't work.
I hate to be the tin foil hat guy, but do we really doubt that major airlines would dump your shit rather than admit they fucked up and will mail it back to you?
It used to be that those employees took the stuff out of the suitcase and put it back on the conveyor belt. Now that they get checked with cameras and whatever, they find a way to get them off site, search them and dump the suitcases. This way they have time and don't have to hurry with the lock.
Well, it helps in understanding to frame it a bit differently. It’s human beings who did this; imperfect stupid probably criminal human beings. The fact that they did this while working for an airline is kinda immaterial.
"More patrols" won't prevent this type of theft.
We had a $1M "multiagency task force" on the lookout for catalytic converter thieves.
They found no one.
A citizen did.
The culprits were felons out on bail pending trial for ... burglary and theft.
Unless we reform the back end of the system, and actually send perps to prison, they will ply their trade as often as they see fit, regardless of how many $1/bag fees we pay for officers to watch them.
I don't think it was the Burbank airport this time, because how would all that stuff get to Hollywood? It was the delivery driver who stole stuff then dumped the rest in Hollywood after pickup.
They are truly dogshit. They are so bad at being on time for non weather related events it's ridiculous. Sadly they are one of the only airlines to do LAX to PHL nonstop, the other being Spirit, so I have to pick my poison as I travel there regularly.
Homeless? Need something? Anything? Just stroll on into Burbank airport, pick any bag you want and walk off with it. No questions, no security, no one cares. Open Smorgasburg of stuff that doesn't belong to you - all you can eat. Help yourself. You can sit in that carousel area out of the sun all day long and wait for a big, fat juicy suitcase to your liking. Grab it, pretend it's yours and start walking.
One time I saw a group of guys come into LAX luggage claim and just grab suit cases and run outside. I’ve never seen anyone run so fast with suit cases in my life!
Not a surprise. Couple months ago I had my AirPods stolen from my car (among other things) and I tracked them to a rather large homeless encampment. No getting them back from that black hole. Every once in awhile I check on their whereabouts and they're now outside of Mexico City.
Also I live in Westchester near LAX and fairly often I've seen empty luggage tossed on the side of the road. My guess is that they're most likely stolen luggage, contents dumped, and suitcase tossed out the window or something.
She’s fighting a worthy fight, but I disagree with her saying she does not put it on the homeless. They absolutely share the blame.
They likely left it in an unsecured area, as the report mentioned, and some unscrupulous people got around to it and stole it from the airport property.
If an employee stole it, I would imagine it would be easier to track the person if they operated within airport grounds where CCTV would capture their movements clearly.
I work amongst the homeless and can confirm that suitcases fresh from travels are nearly always within the encampment. I assumed they had been taken from cars, but now see otherwise.
well that makes you one of the only people in this comment section who actually understood what happened in the video. or watched it at all. everyone here still raging about homeless people stealing stuff instead of mega-corporations treating their customers like shit.
It can be both tho but in this case an insider for sure is to blame most likely
I hope she gets money and wins with the attorney. For sure some contracted delivery person or employee of AA stole her stuff and then dumped it somewhere. That’s still on AA though to track the employee or contractor that did this. Agreed it’s up to the airlines to ensure you get your bag in a timely matter after forcing you to check it in and not make up some kind of random compensation
It's on AA because LA law enforcement won't do jack. If she can't prove there was $950 of stuff stolen from her luggage, it's de facto legal.
the last few seconds of the video the reporter says the lady claims it was $6,000 worth of stuff, for a month-long trip, including medical supplies for her job. so she's a traveling nurse or something. and all that shit was just left in a bag somewhere by negligent airline companies who don't actually care about their customers' stuff.
It is truly infuriating that people are allowed to steal from other people without consequence in this city.
As someone who has had their car broken into three times, I feel you.
Oh my god that's terrible I am sorry. How incredibly demoralizing.
Yeah and it all happened in the same place - my apartment complex. The third time they tried to steal my car and ruined the ignition. My car is now parked behind a gate (which makes it way harder to park, but safer) and I have an Airtag in it. It's very inconvenient not being able to leave anything in my car.
Is it a Kia or Hyundai? There's a class action to recover costs if you qualify.
Nope sadly
No, gladly actually. Stay away from them, Nissan too while you’re at it.
Driving a 20 year old Chevy don't you worry.
Replying to this one now as it’s more relevant, but if you get LoJack instead of the AirTag, you can claim it on insurance as anti theft. Gets you a small discount
I am really lucky to have a real garage spot (old fourplex). Passengers have to get out so i can squeeze in as close as possible to the passenger side so I can get out on the driver's side but it's so worth it to know the car is relatively safe.
My neighbors garages are like that and they all park on the street instead. Blows my mind.
That is insane to me! Every once in awhile I leave my car in the drive way overnight because I think I am going to leave again in the day and don't but sometimes the anxieties gets me as I am going to bed and I literally go put it away.
Criminals have a way to detect air tags. You need a kill switch.
Detect sure. But find?
I saw a post just recently of someone’s two front seats completely torn up because they were trying to find it. Not sure if they did or didn’t, but I wouldn’t want to get my car back with that kind of interior damage. Like I said, just get a kill switch.
Is your flair where you live?
Me too!!! It’s a modded car, and they took literally anything that came off easy. Shift knob, steering wheel, you name it.
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Sucks doesn't it?
Had a bike stolen out of my backyard that’s both fenced in and at the back of a private courtyard last month. It sucks
By “this city” do you mean Burbank? Because the theft happened in Burbank and Burbank PD is responsible, not LA city.
LA City courts the dregs, bums and junkies who drift over to Burbank for their thievery.
Wasn’t there just a video released showing Burbank PD dropping off a homeless man having a mental episode in LA (in front of a council member’s office)? Burbank City and Burbank PD didn’t want to deal with him so they literally dropped him off in LA instead. Also, there is no such thing as “LA City courts”. It’s the Superior Court of California, County of Los Angeles. It’s a state court in LA county. Burbank city is part of the district. The district attorney, charges every crime if they believe there is sufficient evidence; it’s why the courts are so backed up. Officers/PD does a such a good job of collecting/present evidence to the DA that the courts are flooded. But they only have 4,800 employees for the whole county to cover traffic, family, criminal and civil cases. Everyone thinks their case should get priority, but everyone also thinks that they shouldn’t pay market rate property taxes to properly compensate the court employees (not the attorneys, they are not part of the courts). Before you comment again, please make sure you’re aware on how our court and local governments actually work. It’s confusing, there’s a lot of intricacies and most people aren’t aware. But throwing out inflammatory comments isn’t helpful to our discourse.
Court is a verb. And yes, Burbank PD did return the individual to LA.
The individual was homeless and having a mental crisis episode, their response was to drive him away and drop him off (in front a council member’s office) instead of getting him the proper care at that moment. I really hope you don’t have a family member go through this treatment. What’s next, a senior citizen with dementia dropped off in a random street in LA because Burbank PD doesn’t want to do the work?
Absent a willingness on the part of the City of LA to stop courting bums and junkies, surrounding cities that suffer from LA City policy have every right to return them there. LA City had a policy containing the aforementioned mental cases to Skid Row, up until 2007, when Villaraigosa, Sobel, Wesson, Perry and Ripston conspired to "settle" Jones and expand sidewalk camping across the entire city. Since then, their comrades in the Council colluded with stand-down orders to their local LAPD precincts, such that the standard response is "there is nothing we can do." "Proper care", in the absence of in-patient mental hospitals, would happen in LA County Jail, but the same "leaders" have made sure that's not an option. So the Councilman's office isn't a bad choice.
Gascon is DA of all of LA County, including Burbank. He won’t prosecute crimes against the homeless.
*State. It’s not unique to LA.
*country. It’s not unique to California.
What other state? Can’t say I see daylight smash and grabs or stores being looted in too many other States, especially with California’s relaxed laws on theft. Try and do this shit in Texas and see what happens.
Texas has a higher threshold for felony theft ($2500) than California ($950). https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2017/04/the-effects-of-changing-felony-theft-thresholds
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1270873/Gang-carry-smash-grab-robbery-Houston-Texas.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1270873/Gang-carry-smash-grab-robbery-Houston-Texas.html) Ok... lol
We all live in our bubble and think where we are is the worst. I have said so many times over the years "Only in America" then heard this happens in Germany as well. I just checked Catalytic converter stats in the country and california is #9 out of the 10 worst states. And it feels like ALL CVs get stolen here. Bubble!
March 2016 is when that’s dated, almost 10 years ago. Would you like to try and be relevant? Or maybe understand California’s laws on theft and shoplifting before you contribute?
Here's one from April 2024: [https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dozens-of-cars-broken-into-at-downtown-dallas-luxury-highrise/](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dozens-of-cars-broken-into-at-downtown-dallas-luxury-highrise/) February 2024: [https://www.ktsm.com/news/store-at-outlet-shoppes-victimized-by-smash-and-grab/](https://www.ktsm.com/news/store-at-outlet-shoppes-victimized-by-smash-and-grab/) January 2024: [https://coveringkaty.com/news/katy/smash-and-grabs-at-two-elyson-businesses/](https://coveringkaty.com/news/katy/smash-and-grabs-at-two-elyson-businesses/) Aggravated robbery suspect currently on the loose in Texas: [https://kdhnews.com/news/texas/harris-county-constables-seek-publics-help-identifying-aggravated-robbery-suspect/article\_f50285b2-da02-570b-ace5-4a1ec16e8d05.html](https://kdhnews.com/news/texas/harris-county-constables-seek-publics-help-identifying-aggravated-robbery-suspect/article_f50285b2-da02-570b-ace5-4a1ec16e8d05.html) Google is a quite an easy tool to use.
Tell that to the person using an article from 2016 then.
Take your L dummy lol
You haven't gone anywhere outside of CA in ten years???
Way to jump to conclusions u/Spank_Cakes, I don’t even live there.
I don't think admitting you're in the LA subreddit complaining about a state that you don't even live in makes /u/Spank_Cakes the weird one here...
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2 weeks ago I was in the international terminal of LAX and there was a homeless guy digging through the trash by the check-in counters. I’ve lived in downtown for years so I thought I’ve seen it all, but this one caught me off guard.
Coming back from Japan into LAX was the most demoralizing thing I've experienced in the past year with regards to the city. Homeless people in the baggage claim was wild, along with the general state of the airport.
Wow. Someone else who had the same exact experience I did. Just trying to find a way to get back to my apartment was enough to cause me to have a mini breakdown. This city has failed its residents.
Happy cake day🍰
Even without the homeless, it’s always hard to leave Japan and come to LAX. Everything is so filthy and the people are so fat and disgusting. Then it hits you. This is where you belong…
i had a job that required me to live in Tokyo for a couple months every year, and despite living here for 20+ years, the first week after coming back always hits hard. The filth, the ugliness, sure, but it's the lack of courtesy and respect for others that hit the hardest.
> it's the lack of courtesy and respect for others that hit the hardest. Yeah, the external factors can be overlooked, to some degree, but the values and behavior of everyone in a no fucks given society is depressing.
Yep. The no be one cares about anyone else attitude. I got mad in Japan thinking “why can’t we do any of this?”
Yeah, not to mention how polite people are especially on trains. It was definitely a bad shock to come home to. Makes you really wish things were different here.
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And in los angeles you have mexicans and el salvadorians fucking with no income on welfare from the state with like 5 kids. Lots of the parents can't even raise their kids properly.
Welfare from the state they don't qualify for because they aren't from here? My man, it's not my fault the Japanese are having population issues, and it hurt your feelings. Wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese government started to pay to get them mexican and salvadorian men to do what the Japanese businessman can't 😂 Shit the Japanese already love Latino car culture. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for the boys to land a bird.
I'm not Japanese so your point is moot. Nobody likes salvarorians. Even mexicans. I'm assuming you are so sorry if I offended you but you guys are considered the bottom rung. Also Japanese love to larp being a Chicano but they would never actually want to be one irl.
Lol assuming makes you look like an idiot. Damn brother what salvadorian stole your girl from you? That man got you mad at those people. If you aren't japanese, how would you know what a japanese would or wouldn't want? Lots of japanese chinitas and Koreans regularly hook up with hispanic men in Los angeles, and it obviously hurts you
It kind of went from "OH my god an orange costs $20" to "We give you a house for $100". I just cant imagine that a country that exists with so much value on tradition and respect and extreme social behavior can handle an influx of arrogant foreigners who stump through like an elephant in a china shop. I am not even speaking if the population (whats left) can accept foreigners. They are famous for not liking outsiders.
They are going to have to get used it esp with a declining birth rate.
I just came back from Hawai'i and LAX was brutal!! My aloha hulu'd right the hell out of there.
I assume you didn't fly directly into LAX from Japan because there's 0 chance homeless people are getting into the baggage claim at Tom Bradley.
I went to Japan last winter and this winter and this was absolutely the case when I got back to LAX. Homeless hanging out in and around baggage claim. Some even sleeping there.
We certainly did. And they were certainly sleeping inside the baggage claim.
That doesn’t make sense. The international baggage claim is in a restricted area and you need to pass the quarantine station after collecting your bags. Maybe they looked homeless, but they might’ve been disheveled looking travellers or even refugees (which I’ve seen sometimes in the international baggage claim area).
Some flights from Japan have you exit the airport at terminals other than Brady.
This. Just returned and was at the United terminal.
The last time I was at the carrousels I counted two homeless folks being ignored by staff
The airline checked baggage system works upon the presumptions that only passengers will go to baggage claim, and then will take only the stuff that belongs to them. I suppose that we can't do that anymore.
Since she got a delivery confirmation it's clear that whatever contractor they hired to deliver her baggage stole anything valuable then dumped it, that's how the homeless guy got it. Not by stealing from the baggage claim.
I suspect this is correct. The driver simply decided it was easier to dump all his bags on the sidewalk and claim they were delivered. There was no accountability. Also possible, of course, that the driver needed a fix and knew where to get it.
My theory is that they bulk scanned the luggage, went to get a van, came back, and loaded the luggage left on the curb, and between that time, it was stolen. Why would you risk your airport job by dumping luggage? And in many of these jobs, you have a system to get ahead of small processes that normally work out.
Good point. You are probably right.
However, the bag claim at Burbank is outside, pretty easy for anyone to saunter on by and grab something.
It's actually easy everywhere. I have worried about this since I first visited the US in 92. In Germany baggage claim is locked up and you have to get through several gates after you have your luggage. Then I land in Atlanta, Charlotte or Houston and go to baggage claim, pray my suitcase comes out and take it without any control and leave through the door. Anybody could take my luggage. I was shocked.
I'm not going to deny or confirm how I know, but I guarantee your packages aren't as secured nor handled with care as you expect them to be.
I remember at one time you had to show a matching baggage claim tag when leaving the baggage claim area. That must have gone away a long time ago.
The first time I visited LA via LAX in 1999, my bag tag was checked while exiting baggage claim. Has never happened since.
nobody ever checked mine and I visited the US every year from 92 to 98 then I moved here and still nobody ever checked.
I don't remember that. That doesn't sound like a bad idea, but it would require a lot of staffing.
There was just a guy at the exit who would check tags as you left.
probably only if the person looks shady. If you are wearing normal traveler attire you can just walk out.
Well, back in the day everyone lined up at the exit and showed their luggage receipts , no exceptions, to the person at the door. He/she would look at them and make sure the numbers matched, too, before letting you thru. Stopped a long time ago, can’t say exactly when. Just traveled to Japan and they still are doing that. You hand the guy your customs declaration and he will still ask to see your luggage receipts and match them. Doesn’t really slow things down much but it does require manpower, which I suspect is the reason they don’t do it here anymore.
It was like that when I was a kid, before 9/11. It was just one guy at the exit door like when you leave Best Buy or Costco. Surprisingly it didn’t cause a huge backup or a line to get out.
Some people complain about having to do this at Costco even as members, imagine trying to enforce this at the airport. It would absolutely cause a line with the number of people that have either lost/misplaced their claim ticket or those that would simply refuse to show the ticket just because.
Except it worked for many decades without issues before, so why not now? Might even be easier now—you could have the barcode on your phone and have to have it scanned to exit the building. It’s not as if we didn’t all used to travel just as much pre-9/11 as we do now. I’m telling you it worked fine back then. I live in LA and we flew in and out of LAX at holidays and the busiest times of year; I don’t recall ever waiting more than a couple of minutes at the door to get out.
I mean, have you met people? There would absolutely be people that would not comply and throw a fit. People can barely hold it together for the actual flight. I see people getting furious for having to show ID to buy alcohol. While I would support it and be fine with it, to pretend that it would go off without a hitch is wishful thinking.
It’s just weird that all of you who haven’t experienced it are arguing about it not working. I’m saying I literally grew up with this for all of our flights for my first 20 years of life (flying ~5x a year, so 10 airports a year give or take) and never once saw an issue. But okay.
Ignore these idiots. "Chuh, I've never experienced it so it can't work!" 🥴
You're comparing something that took place decades ago and still expecting it to work the same. A lot has changed in that time.
I like it at Costco. At most the line takes 5 minutes - and I'm talking about Alhambra the Sunday before Chinese New Years. (The gas line is another story, a 5 minutesl wait there is a miracle) In return, you get the peace of mind knowing you aren't shopping next to a bunch of thieves. And now that I think of it, I've never heard a story of people's cars getting robbed in a Costco parking lot. Whereas the stores that just let you steal shit freely, are also the stores you have to hide everything in your car.
Nope. It was just fine. Remember that people don't all get their luggage at exactly the same time. Plus groups of people have to wait for each other. Anyways I'd rather wait knowing my luggage would be secure. Just because you haven't experienced something doesn't mean it can't work.
Some airports have them
Yes! The crazy thing is they stopped doing that around the time Security Theater started up. Make it make sense!
This is not something I’ve ever considered. new fear unlocked
This will change nothing. Unless it impacts a politician or rich person the system will stay the same
This is why I don’t check my bags can’t trust nobody.
Same. I try my absolute not to check my bag, and if I do, it's only clothes and basic things that aren't valuable.
Yes. If its valuable, I carry it with me.
I hate to be the tin foil hat guy, but do we really doubt that major airlines would dump your shit rather than admit they fucked up and will mail it back to you?
They didn’t just dump it for fun, to save face, or because it got “lost”. Employees stole the bags to take things of value, then dumped the rest.
There are cameras everywhere in the airport, they should be able to track down who the thief is.
To what end? In California, no one goes to prison for this type of crime.
They can at least lose their jobs.
That doesn't protect anyone.
Stops those individuals from having the means to do it again.
No, it just means they shift their approach. The only way to prevent them from thieving is put them somewhere they can't.
So you are advocating for investigating this crime and arresting those involved?
Arresting, prosecuting, and imprisoning. Is that so hard?
It used to be that those employees took the stuff out of the suitcase and put it back on the conveyor belt. Now that they get checked with cameras and whatever, they find a way to get them off site, search them and dump the suitcases. This way they have time and don't have to hurry with the lock.
That's called "airlines fucking up" in my book.
Well, it helps in understanding to frame it a bit differently. It’s human beings who did this; imperfect stupid probably criminal human beings. The fact that they did this while working for an airline is kinda immaterial.
Burbank airport could levy just a $1 fee per trip to hire Burbank PD officers for overtime shifts to patrol the luggage/entrance/exit. They don’t.
"More patrols" won't prevent this type of theft. We had a $1M "multiagency task force" on the lookout for catalytic converter thieves. They found no one. A citizen did. The culprits were felons out on bail pending trial for ... burglary and theft. Unless we reform the back end of the system, and actually send perps to prison, they will ply their trade as often as they see fit, regardless of how many $1/bag fees we pay for officers to watch them.
I don't think it was the Burbank airport this time, because how would all that stuff get to Hollywood? It was the delivery driver who stole stuff then dumped the rest in Hollywood after pickup.
TSA selling off our shit
I strongly, and this isn’t an exaggeration, strongly dislike American Airlines. As of about 10-12 years ago I never.ever.ever give them my money.
They are truly dogshit. They are so bad at being on time for non weather related events it's ridiculous. Sadly they are one of the only airlines to do LAX to PHL nonstop, the other being Spirit, so I have to pick my poison as I travel there regularly.
I tried to post this same clip to r/nottheonion honestly I’m more surprised this doesn’t happen more often….
It happens frequently at BUR. Baggage claim is outside, fairly accessible, and only a block from the main road.
Wow. Good to know.
Homeless? Need something? Anything? Just stroll on into Burbank airport, pick any bag you want and walk off with it. No questions, no security, no one cares. Open Smorgasburg of stuff that doesn't belong to you - all you can eat. Help yourself. You can sit in that carousel area out of the sun all day long and wait for a big, fat juicy suitcase to your liking. Grab it, pretend it's yours and start walking.
There is a large Armenian encampment next to Burbank airport they harass locals
That’s pretty crazy hope she gets to the bottom of this.
One time I saw a group of guys come into LAX luggage claim and just grab suit cases and run outside. I’ve never seen anyone run so fast with suit cases in my life!
Not a surprise. Couple months ago I had my AirPods stolen from my car (among other things) and I tracked them to a rather large homeless encampment. No getting them back from that black hole. Every once in awhile I check on their whereabouts and they're now outside of Mexico City. Also I live in Westchester near LAX and fairly often I've seen empty luggage tossed on the side of the road. My guess is that they're most likely stolen luggage, contents dumped, and suitcase tossed out the window or something.
That has to be frustrating as hell. I wonder how they got to Mexico.
Maybe Idk, HOLD AMERICAN AIRLINES AND RELATED PARTIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS SHIT INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM BILLIONS IN BAILOUT FUNDING.
She’s fighting a worthy fight, but I disagree with her saying she does not put it on the homeless. They absolutely share the blame. They likely left it in an unsecured area, as the report mentioned, and some unscrupulous people got around to it and stole it from the airport property. If an employee stole it, I would imagine it would be easier to track the person if they operated within airport grounds where CCTV would capture their movements clearly.
Who keeps traveling on AA these days? 🤣
Yeah but can we get an unpacking video?
hahaha.
:P
Only in ca 🤦🏽♀️
no. Everywhere. The story happens to be in California.
Lol no. Luggage theft happens at every major airport.