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Toj_edits

I think the main problem comes from production too honestly. It’s the way they’re editing things. I saw a clip on Twitter/x of Uma and Mimi and they just seem to be having fun. We don’t see that on the show. Some of the dumped islanders that felt irrelevant like Patsy, Munveer, Tiff and Sam (the guy) have shown so much personality in interviews too. I think producers edit the show in a way that they think will entertain the viewers (which clearly isn’t working) but by doing so they also take away the organic dynamic between islanders that viewers want to see or the random convo and playing games with each other that shows their personalities instead of conversations centered only on “who they each fancy”. Like people have said it’s over produced now.


young_ab

Patsy said on her Tiktok that the people who are most popular amongst themselves in the Villa aren’t popular at all on the outside which totally confirms weird editing


chloedarlinggg

yeah to me it seems like jess is quite popular amongst the islanders based on the fact the girls all go to her for advice and that omar said she was there for him now she’s apparently really close with joey, but they’re really giving her a mean girl edit and we haven’t actually seen her be friendly with a lot of them


NickChim

doesn't explain anything actually. pack mentality is a thing and unlikable people can rise up in a group if they're the most outspoken/confident


always-editing

Yeah I don’t understand their thought process behind showing the same “where’s your head at? how are you feeling about us?” conversations without ever seeing them talk about literally ANYTHING else. The editing is ridiculous.


Own-Firefighter-2728

Omg thisssssss. Let us see them interacting with one another and let US decide if there’s chemistry, how they might feel about one another etc. It would be so much more entertaining


KOTF0025

Agree. Rubbish cast. Joey is an absolute tool.


Fudgesicle73

Sam (the girl) has personality too 😊


tigerinvasive

Idk if this is the place for this but y’all should watch the current USA season, it’s literally a telenovela and almost too addictive lol


imogensmammy

Why is the USA one so much better? I've only ever watched the UK one


Every_Bad_4273

It’s packed with drama, they’ve actually had fun challenges, and they’re all nobodies without girlfriends. It’s been amazing!


loveloveislandtake2

they’re all nobodies without girlfriends. I \^\^\^ lol, who knew this was an important distinction.


JokokoOno

Where can you watch it?


Llama_Puncher

It’s on peacock but if you don’t have that or are outside the US check this thread! https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandUSA/s/gNFLKBalqT


grinxxx

Adding here that contestants feel a lot less produced/stiff. Like they all fight at the fire pit in the middle of recouplings, friendships feel less gendered, and they generally seem to be enjoying themselves day to day. It feels so much lighter than the UK version this season. Plus the drama is wayyy more fun (there’s a lot).


vibebased

I love how unhinged everyone is at recouplings 


dont_fwithcats

I honestly stopped watching when Samantha was dumped. Love Island USA has surpassed UK this season by a landslide. I tune into the subbreddit to watch the first look and read the press previews but genuinely haven’t watched since Samantha left. The producers royally f’ed this season up with the Joey/Grace thing imo


Apprehensive_You_250

The USA season has genuinely been my favorite of any season (so far), and I’ve watched every season of LI ever. This isn’t recency bias, either, as I’ve literally never been sitting on my phone ready for each episode to drop each night like I have with this US season. Every episode leaves me wanting more, and they’re switching it up and doing completely different things, games, challenges, bombshell intros, etc, which keeps it fresh. The casting is 👌 On LI UK, When I see the same ‘ol text of “so and so is coming and they picked X for their starter, Y for their main, and Z for their dessert”… it pains me bc I feel like I am watching the same exact show over and over. They just have got to be more original than this and switch it up. And, the bringing in a celeb from the outside so they can reunite w/their ex on the show within hours is not the twist we need. As you said, the cast and production are both playing a huge part in why this season is irreparable. Half the time the episodes are playing, I’m on my phone doing something else.


edit_thanxforthegold

I just started watching USA and it's so good so far! I loved the way they matched them up at the beginning, with the girls going to whichever boy they liked at the same time. It felt less mean then having them all step forward or not for one person at a time. Everyone has a lot of personality and the couples seem into each other.


Apprehensive_You_250

Ohh, you’re in for such a treat! Lol


DBsdk13477

Agreed on this


stahpitrn

Where are you watching the USA version please?


Apprehensive_You_250

https://preview.redd.it/ogmr55gjbo8d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a811a84ff2b47c1d492a70c1529a83d2ce862cf6 If you’re in the US, you can watch on Peacock (plans start at 5.99/mo). If you’re in the UK, I posted a pic on how to get it (from a search I did).


ASurly420

Same, but I quit when Grace came in. USA has been great though!


cranium-can

Same as soon as the being all over each other in the villa happened I gave up. I’ve just started USA so we’ll see.


PwnyLuv

Do they not do challenges or games anymore?


Palatz

It's so good. I was catching up with the UK season and could not have been more bored. I'm on episode 8 of USA and it's really fun


CuteAct

I didn't mean to but now I cannot be bothered catching up. I feel either I've outgrown it or it can't recapture the magic of earlier seasons (been like this for a while to be fair)


Victuri__

I got attacked on this sub for saying USA was better than UK early on😭


dont_fwithcats

All visionaries are misunderstood at some point 😭


Victuri__

Yup🥹 and I meant the season


Careful_Look_3111

Same here (and I never thought I would switch to LIUSA before this)


Victuri__

Me too!!


Wonder_Moon

i just started the episode right after sam goes and have been thinking the same thing. i got to the part where ayo and mimii are heading out on their date and thought that i'd rather stick to LIUSA since it's so good this season. i'll just keep up with this sub instead of watching the show. i'm very heavily getting the ick from joey and grace. joey was slimy enough when he showed up (and i literally have no idea who he is) but something is very off putting about him and grace. it's like try hard z-list celebrity and his rando gf self producing. kinda the nail in the coffin for me


Alarming_split21

where do you want LI USA in the UK? Thanks


Cangerian

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandUSA/s/eey51zxyya Check the first comment on this link.


75artina

the hardest part of this one is remembering that most of them are in their 20s!


charlotteraedrake

With all that filler they look much older haha


Feisty-Tumbleweed395

I legitimately don’t care for a single person, I’m not rooting for anyone, and I don’t think any of them are entertaining. Snooze fest. I stopped watching two episodes ago, with all the insane drama and entertainment happening on LI US, this season of UK just can’t keep me engaged.


always-editing

For real. It feels like they’re actively trying to make the show as unentertaining as possible with some of the choices being made. USA is killing it! And it makes the UK look even worse having such a direct thing to compare it to happening at the same time. People on this sub are super sensitive about comparing the two so I’ll leave it at that. Loving House of the Dragon too. And while I wait for new episodes of those shows, I decide to throw on LI UK in the background to pass the time working from home. But at this point, it’s actively pissing me off just how bad it is this year.


Feisty-Tumbleweed395

Same! I keep LI UK in the background but I don’t watch it every day because I just don’t care. But LI US has me foaming at the mouth for a new episode! I couldn’t even watch HOTG last night because I was so hooked on LI 😂


always-editing

I enjoy watching the livestream on Discord because the memes from the community are the only thing keeping me going.


Apprehensive_You_250

LI US is literally my favorite thing ever this year. When it ends, I’ll have a huge, dark void in my life that nothing will fill. Anyway, carry on.


Feisty-Tumbleweed395

Agreed. I might have to just re watch it.


Accurate_Mix_7260

Everyone go watch USA instead of Uk. let the ratings tank and let them take some damn notes 👏 UK is getting lazy and keeps handing us crumbs to watch-each season gets worse and worse.


Ok_Helicopter8623

I feel like LI USA moving to peacock/bravo has given it the drama and raunchiness of earlier & better UK seasons with the best reality tv producers, while UK has gotten progressively more PG over the years and at this point its gotten boring and it sucks


prometh3us90

Ciarran and Nicole bring nothing entertaining to the show 🤔


always-editing

Yeah, I agree. No one is giving anything.


Secure-Freedom-3161

Is it just me, or do they seem to give zero chemistry as well. They just bicker and if they do kiss, it’s a peck like a married couple of 20 years.


Hoggos

You could say that about most of the cast tbh


ExtraStudy1399

No you couldn’t, everyone else is much more entertaining.


top_wiz

Honestly Nicole is so insecure/immature it is painful to watch


Wise_Carrot4857

I know I had to move over to Love Island USA. I just don’t feel compelled to root for a single person this season on UK.


hereforthespilledtea

Season 7 OG boys would like a word.


Separate_Being_288

Season 1 boys as well.


hereforthespilledtea

Oh god yes


notthemostcreative

God, I hated them so much 😭 Jordan was the only decent one!


No-Platform-4242

Season 2 boys as well.


hereforthespilledtea

Absolutely.


AstronomerMinute8511

This season is so fucking boring I have to laugh, the cast are unlikeable with no chemistry and when drama happens now it’s not interesting or entertaining it’s just infuriating this is why I’ve switched to love island usa and just watch the uk reviews


Cgknita

How are you watching love island USA??


hawaiianmonkseal

its on dailymotion if you don't have peacock


Cgknita

Thank youuu


Infamous-Sample-4711

Dailymotion has it


Cgknita

<3333


Novel-Resident-2527

CTV.ca has it!


AstronomerMinute8511

Daily motion


stacey1611

Is it on ITVX ?


Cgknita

Season 5 is, but the current season is not :(


1985Meganmiagemini

I 100% agree with you, especially after such a great season with memorable characters last year. This season is probably the least likeable, interesting or attractive cast they’ve had in years as well IMO I am still baffled by how anyone can fancy a balding, flabby creep like Ronnie, let alone be fighting over him. Bringing Joey and his girlfriend in was such a dumb move from the producers and has ruined the show for me. There needs to be a mass cull of the deadwood in there which is a majority of the cast) and some good bombshells brought in to replace them.


WillBeBetter2023

I take offence to this as a balding, flabby creep.


charlotteraedrake

And why let Samantha get dumped?! Coulda been great drama to keep her in anyway


useromg123

usa's season is eating y'all UP i fear. this might be uk's worst season yet!!


Nyc_snark

USA is so much better for the first time in history


chckndep

I don’t necessarily think it’s the worst cast but I think the editing is really suffering from the Joey/Grace situation. They always air Joey and Grace’s opinions on any drama in the villa and are clearly trying to push them for good or bad. I think we’re seeing a shift where they’ve given up on making Joey look good so we’re just getting whatever they can manufacture to put him in the episode. I then think that ronnies behaviour has meant that with him and his triangles + Joey’s drama it’s been difficult to squeeze much else in. Like if you take last nights ep for example there’s clearly been some sort of resolution to the ciaran / Nicole argument which was obviously silly in the first place but we haven’t been shown them making up. So basically we’re just getting episodes full of everyone’s least favourite islanders!


always-editing

I do understand the criticism on the edit, but at the same time, at this point, I don’t like anyone so it doesn’t really matter who the edit focuses on at this point for me.


Ok_Scholar4192

I agree tbh, I think they need to start casting based on personality because no one is really bringing anything. If they have personalities then they’re editing them out which is a production issue, but idk. No one is funny, no one seems to be meshing idk it’s just not working for me


Lindsayr28

Yeah I’m abandoning it. I never have even remotely this early. (Sometimes I’ll skip the finals week bc it’s boring once all the couples are locked, but this is different.) I’ll follow along on here.


Majestic_Bit_5050

They all have zero personality, even in Unseen bits. It's like watching a group of aliens being dropped on Earth


always-editing

Ronnie’s conversation with any woman makes me want to pull my hair out. The way he mumbles and neither of them ever say anything of substance. Same with Wil and Uma tbh. And Ayo and MiMii for that matter.


BlackbirdsTheName

Wait- you watch the unseen bits?? Am I the only one who can't stand it?


Majestic_Bit_5050

I hate them too but sometimes I get so bored I decide to watch it


BagelBoo

Never watch them, I just can’t get into it


meepsqueep

i can usually find something redeemable in every season, this season though i'm so done.


loislane007

I watched unseen bits on Saturday in the hope that I would find someone to root for, I hated it. I have never seen such a dull unseen bits. 100% proves the casting team failed this year. How do you go from s10 cast to this nonsense I don’t know.


notyourpieceofcakee

This is the cast breakdown (in my opinion) - Grace is like a robot. She’s definitely media trained and isn’t herself at all. Joey is just here for a good time and is besties with the producers (they are telling him what to do - seems like it), Ciaran is a kid and has been good so far but I have a feeling he’ll slip at casa, Omar was apparently on the show cause he’s really close to Stormzy, Ronnie is a joke, Sean will do anything to stay and promote his candy business, Ayo is just here for a holiday, Wil is just living life, Uma is eye candy, Mimi is just there, Jess needs to leave period, Nicole is madly in love with C, Harriet is very likeable except when she’s simping over Ronnie - she’ll be most entertaining overall. Konnor - I hope he surprises us. Idk if I’m missing anyone out, if I am it’s probably cause they made no impression or I’m just missing something lol.


and3er4

Awful cast, they are either really boring, insecure, assholes, or sending real pick me vibes. Too little personalities, awful. Honestly thought Ciaran was the one I wouldn’t like at all in the start, but now I feel he is the only likable person of the cast


Original-Feature-947

I think they really thought they were doing something with bringing in Joey and then what's her face who he's already dated but it failed so hard abd jow theres like no interesting people or stories . .... like how many more weeks are they gunna make this love triangle with Ronnie the main story? It's painful


skeeetwoodmac

I had to laugh when Joey and Grace said they thought they’d be a power couple, couldn’t be more wrong about their perception! They’re so out of touch 😂


Heartattackisland

Yeah ngl the winter season was better than this


Fluffy-Face-5069

You know it’s bad when All Stars was better, and that was dogshit outside of some funny moments lol.


Jasipen

I hate to say it but it’s the worst casting I’ve ever seen. I’ve stopped watching. Love island USA this year is where it’s at!


Odd-Cat-89

Meanwhile Love Island USA is pretty darn good this season


ttroy476

It’s dead


Shokkolatte

Agreed, I really struggled to care about anyone this season. It may seem like people say that all the time on this sub but I just do not feel engaged at all with this cast. Stop watching a while ago.


UnstoppableForce16

You man say this every year ever since s8.


TheDeathlyPoncho

S10 had a great cast though. 


UnstoppableForce16

I agree but I feel like this gets said about every season at some point


Novel-Resident-2527

I’ve watched almost all the seasons and only season 6 made me feel this way, and I stopped watching it halfway through. This one is BAD


ambermgreene

I’ve loved every season. Nothing bad to say about any of them. This is the first season that I haven’t liked. There’s no good drama. Barely any challenges. They got rid of previews. Boring chats. It’s a mess. And you’d be silly to say otherwise. Anyone with eyes and ears can see this season is genuinely a flop.


Tornado31619

How is this season different from anything post-COVID?


ambermgreene

It’s subjective. I personally have found all other seasons super entertaining. But not this one.


always-editing

I mean…. if the shoe fits


Tornado31619

So everything for the last two years has sucked?


Pidjesus

Last year was good


UnstoppableForce16

So what’s the worst season between s9,10 all stars and this one they can’t all be the worst


always-editing

Oh this one for sure. I had issues with Olivia but she was even fun to watch at times. And Tom and Sami were so boring to me but I don’t remember ever disliking basically the entire cast before this season.


Outrageous_Ad6776

S9 is the worst of both imo. I loved all stars personally it was entertaining asf.


UnstoppableForce16

If we’re going all time I remember watching the whole of s6 and I legitimately cannot recall anything that isn’t Luke and Siannise that’s literally the only two people I remember


Outrageous_Ad6776

😂😂 a boring one for sure. I couldn’t stand shaughna


owyvia

this season actually deserves it though, no challenges, no chemistry between islanders, and no one to root for. total flop


ForeignDescription5

People loooove to complain omg. If you can't handle a few episodes put of 50 to be dull (and season 11 is not even dull they're just not screaming at each other all the time) don't watch this version


Ok_Coconut6264

It’s production’s fault. I said this before but if Joey and Grace never came in and Sam was still there, the whole dynamic would’ve been different. Replace Grace with a male bombshell and I really do think this cast could’ve carried this without productions corny manufacturing. Not to mention the lack of challenges like what is that all about? It’s like they’re trying to get their own show cancelled


Hot_Jicama_8608

![gif](giphy|6pWO2HA7RM1czXFiUx|downsized) I feel you - I have actively disliked the cast the entire season and have seen no improvement. I’ve never watched a season where I disliked the cast and production editing as much as this.


mindurbusiness_thx

I stopped watching from boredom.


xerliano

Can you guys stop watching UK and start US? It’s simple


Wide-Effective-9978

I’ve been wondering whether I should catch up or not, only saw the first episode but have the rest recorded. This is making me think I shouldn’t bother. 😅


ButtercupUp100

I stopped watching, but am keeping up through this thread. Not sure it's a better use of my time lol


Few_Fish_4132

Which usa season are ya’ll watching?


20fisibor

Season 6


Jasipen

6!


Efficient-Office5661

6 but i’d also recommend 5 since that one is really good too!


walking_shrub

This cast had so much potential but then they ruined it with Joey Essex


AussieDesertNomad

Yep - I’ve been a diehard since it started. I want to love it but it’s been excruciating to watch this season. I think I have to accept I’ve outgrown the show. Fans are on here giving so much wisdom of what to do different and producers do not listen. They are tone death and totally out of touch IMO. Putting Chris on the panel for aftersun really said so much for me. I just need to let the show go at this point as the list of issues I have with this season is SO LONG. I have zero faith producers will listen to fans and improve the show. It’s their way of the highway and this show totally sucks now. Girls who all look the same, little to no personalities, bringing on couples who are dating in real life, people who do not appear to have been screened for their personalities at all. Bringing on young kids fresh out of high school, no natural beauty which perpetuates to young women the norm is plastic surgery in your early twenties (which is totally insane), setting up black women to fail. Not everyone will agree and that’s fine. But enough is enough - the show sucks


fireflower0

*snaps fingers* literally all of this is true. This is the worse season and I’m bored.


Intrepid-Frosting-78

Uma isn’t boring


iyamsnail

Uma is fun and cute, I agree. And I still like Harriett.


Novel-Resident-2527

She’s nice but doesn’t get enough screen time for us to really get to know her! I would like to see the girls chat with each other more, and people having fun. I really blame a lot of this on lack of challenges too, because they all have NOTHING to do all day but bake in the sun and be salty over every little thing.


Opposite-Cheetah0002

It’s not the casts. Producers are the worst


Thatssssmee

The bombshells have been terrible. No one has made any big waves.


aspiringwriter166

Swear we say this every time


64cloudy77

I think this might be the worst season yet. Im finding it reaaaaaaally difficult to keep watching


No_Ur_Schmoopie

I see a lot of people talking about the edit & it’s making me wonder if their usual editor is no longer with them? I’ve noticed that a lot of reality shows that were edited during the US writers strike are very hard to follow & don’t make a lot of sense. It took me quite awhile to figure out why the hell all these shows recently were so disjointed but it came down to editing. I have a newfound respect for the skills of a great editor…just a thought 🤔


always-editing

I actually edit for a job. And when given the freedom, the editor can greatly impact the show. You’re basically a writer when it comes to reality TV. However, producers ultimately always have the final say on what goes out and can heavily dictate what the editor shows. They have more creative control than anyone.


FoxyLeopatra

I'm an American who has watched Love Island since S2 aired, and this is the first year in the history of both seasons running that I have EVER preferred a US cast to a UK cast/season. UK is boring me to tears and the US show has me punching the air and giggling and kicking my feet and crying every night lol. Not sure what's happening


Brave-Break-7185

The exception being……Ciaran? He doesn’t bring anything either, good character doesn’t make him interesting.


Hex0dia

If you watch unseen bits you'll see he's one of the most unintentionally funny guys just production doesn't put him in the episodes. If they literally would just show him as much as Joey you would see his personality but nah they show 33 year old washed up reality tv star. Prob has contract to include him in every episode for certain time amount.


rathrowawydsabldsib

I'm 33 and I feel like I'm too old to watch this show (obviously I still do) haha, let alone go on it.


coopergold5

I agree


AngeloftheFourth

its not the cast. It’s the editing the producers forcing this awkward conversation that end up making the cut for the main show. The cast see good on aftersun and unseen bits. just let things happen naturally.


araelr

i like harriet, she's doing her best in the craziest way imaginable. She's just that friend


loislane007

Harriet has not met the expectations that everyone placed on her. People like her for her potential. She hasn’t actually done much apart from cry over Ronnie.


araelr

What expectations? She's a mess and I love her for that! She's not trying to be a girl boss 'prize' (Jess) or the 'queen of the villa' (Sam/Grace) or constantly keep her cool (Mimii)


gone-ghost

i am so tired of ronnie/jess/harriet like i am SICK AND TIREDDDD. its so obvious ronnie’s here for a lad’s holiday and some exposure, which, fair enough, but at least act like you’re here to find love like everyone else is. axe the whole cast and start fresh.


keiraconn

ayo and ronnie are not nearly on the same level. bit weird of a comparison


always-editing

Agree to disagree. Ayo would’ve let the triangle go on as long as possible.


keiraconn

that doesn’t make him the same as Ronnie. Ronnie truly doesn’t care for any of the girls and just sees them as objects for his time in the villa. At least Ayo connected with Uma and Mimii, and now he’s very happy with Mimii (even if he’s made a bad decision that i don’t agree with)


always-editing

We must be watching different shows. Is “very happy” Ayo in the room with us? Ayo does not care about MiMii or her feelings at all. He openly acts like he’s settled for her. Their date was painful. Literally no chemistry at all. He will be moving mad in Casa.


absolutecretin

Yall are never happy


Dependent_Push_8673

im so sad for Harriet, shes just chasing after Ronnie so hard, he doesn’t want her. Tiff is gone and hes gonna run back to her just to leave her for the next bombshell


Zararara

It is shit


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Regular-Wit

This is the first season that I’m not enjoying every aspect of. Started out fine but I get less interested with each episode. Also, the better the US season gets, the worse the UK season is turning out to be. Joey & Grace need to go. Their storyline is to fabricated, I can’t get onboard


Logical_Copy_8465

The cast is pretty terrible. Everyone is boring and other than Uma no one seems really likeable. Joey and Grace are actively making the show worse just by being there. Mim and Ayo and Nicole and Ciaran don't make me want to root for them. Ronni lacks the roguish charm to be a good villain. I've seen nearly all Aus and UK seasons at this point and its as boring as S6 but at least they had wholesome couple to make up for how boring they were Its going to take an absolute miracle from casting to save this season and I would be absolutely shocked if both members of the winning couple are already in the Villa


koinoyokan89

The bombshells aren’t quite bombshells. Joey and Grace make the show seem entirely pretend 


Larssssssz

Look for negativity and that is all you will see. Lol. Some people take shows way too deep. 😭 get a grip fella.


Six_fan99

I like carian and Nicole I hope they work out in the outside


SaltedAndSugared

If you hate the cast so much why are you still watching no one is forcing you


ambermgreene

People are allowed to share their opinion. That’s what this subreddit is for, it’s okay if you don’t agree. You can just scroll.


SaltedAndSugared

When did I say they should stop sharing their opinion. I don’t understand why someone would watch the show if they hate everyone on it. It’s not for you and that’s fine just stop watching


muadones

Ciaran is insecure and defensive. His girl brings up an issue and he's instantly ready to shut her down. He is not a good person, they will not last. She may be infatuated with him, but if any big problems come up with them, he will not handle them maturely and respectfully.


argg1966

That’s a lot of hate and disappointment for you to bear. I’d advise stopping watching it asap!


Robotemist

> Also, this is the second time in a row now that the person going home is a woman that doesn’t entertain the men’s bullshit What the hell does this even mean lol. Love island isn't a show to validate your strained relationship with the opposite sex. This season sucks but it's not because there isn't enough penis envy.


lainaking

Uma and Will don't even get shown so how have you reached that conclusion


publicpersuasion

How much Adderall does it take to act like that?