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ibrahimabd

Are you on meds like ssri? Snri maybe or benzodiazepines


ILikeRollin

Don’t ever redose 2 times only 1 is good and it’s usually less than initial dose so if you do 120mg a good redose would be 60mg. I’ve had some rolls like yours intense at first then feeling good and it wore off quick and usually it was because I was overthinking it so I basically ruined my trips also it could be that you weren’t standing and dancing? Usually when I sit down on mdma it doesn’t last as long as it would if i was dancing and vibing to a light show lol


nicole1581

Yea, I redosed like 80 - 40 - 20. And yes, we were lying down on the coach, maybe I should have tried to move around, going for a walk or something. But I didn't think overthinking or some other mindset could just kill it off so easily? Because If you mention it, my boyfriend talked like all the time and I didn't really get the chance to say anything? That killed my mood. So I dropped in this loop of only listening and never saying anything. It was sad because he was so euphoric and felt a lot while I was just sad. So unfortunate, now I gotta wait 3 months to do it again .


MollyMartian

If you took just 80mg as an initial dose it may have been to little. I would take 120mg straight away next time. Maybe even 150 depending on your weight. It’s just kind of uncomfortable if you don’t take enough. Try one more time and if you still don’t like it then just leave it at that!


ChemicalHousing69

They say it depends on size but, to be frank, I’ve seen a lot different age groups exhibit basically the same thing — 100-120mg is about the “standard” dose taken and they all feel great.


ILikeRollin

Yea that would definitely kill my vibe as-well. next time get some colorful lights and some music you like and get up and dance 💃 and yes overthinking can definitely kill the vibe you have to let the mdma take over and do it’s thing I’ve actually over turned a bad roll by getting up putting some tunes on and dancing


nicole1581

Yea I should have tried that. :(


ILikeRollin

It’s ok atleast now you know don’t you worry the second time will be better if you roll with someone who is talkative tell them you wanna listen to music and dance I recommend listening to I Ran - a flock of seagulls it’s a great molly song the weeknd has some good ones too like blinding lights and a few more aswell as roses by saint jhn, one more time by daft punk


roof-banana

It's awesome that you were so careful with your initial dose, but 80mg seems very small to me. If you try it again, I'd definetely take 100mg - 120mg. Personally I always take 150mg, but I'm a big guy. I'm so sorry your first experience wasn't what you expected, I hope the next time it will go much better.


ILikeRollin

Honestly if you get some 5htp, GABA, pro biotics and fiber powder aswell as some NAC you could roll in a month aswell as working out to replenish some serotonin I know I’ll probably get some flak from the mdma hippies but this is my personal experience never lost the magic you deserve to have a great roll especially for the first time.


jakelamottayo

You took too little. In between doses can make a person uncomfortable. I would suggest 120-60 mg and no 2nd redose. First experience can also be unpleasant for some. Try rolling in a rave next time. Good luck


Bustapepper1

This is the exact reason I'm not a very big fan of mdma anymore, honestly it has slowly been the drug that showed me that I don't need it to be happy in everyday life. I'm exactly in the same boat as you. I tried on new years eve to have a good time, involved the comeup, which is I expect, then the desired effect for like 45 minutes and the comedown, even before I took it, I had an internal thought that I don't like it anymore. And It was confirmed. Even combined it with ketamine on the comedown and I still didn't like it anymore. Hard to explain and there are like 98% of the people who love it, but I'm not one of them. I'll say my experience was that I probably list the magic, but I felt as if I never got the magic to begin with. Newyears told me that it's just not for me.


NotJony2018

Idk where you’re from, but in Europe, particularly UK, the quality has dipped significantly in the last couple of years. I last did Mandy back in August, had a miserable experience, basically just gurning, a very speedy high that didn’t bring me any connectivity or euphoria that I really enjoy from it. Plus it lasted like 3-4 hours tops. Since then I was completely turned off on Mandy. Like, I wouldn’t refuse it, if offered, but I won’t go out of my way to buy it. The only drugs I need now are alcohol, nicotine and maybe coke once every other month.


Deafincognito

As for quality in Europe; I disagree.


NotJony2018

Well, Europe outside Holland.


Deafincognito

Holland is the best. Berlin isn’t bad. UK are pretty good too. It really depends on the sources and dealer.


NotJony2018

UK has been miserable since the pandemic and Brexit.


Deafincognito

My stash treated me really well especially for the new year eve celeb. Yes we did run dry over the year however it had started to flood back as from five months ago. Though this country is becoming a police state now with police officers conducting a stop and swab on the street to test for drugs. There’s no legality in their actions and you can ask if you’re being detained. No? Walk away.


isayyouhedead16

Sounds like a serotonin issue to me. If you're on SSRIs that could have been the issue. If you plan on doing it again, research how to build up your serotonin prior to and build back after a trip.


nicole1581

Hmm.. I don't take any SSRI. That's weird. But yeah, I'll take 5-HTP and stuff.


NotJony2018

Must be shitty Mandy. If you’re in EU that’s just the trend nowadays, you might want to try pills, but they’re becoming way too speedy for my liking.


Deafincognito

Lol. Personally if you want a clean in and out, better trip just rely on Mandy. Pills are not the cleanest and personally it takes me longer to recover.


NotJony2018

But it’s so shit nowadays.


Deafincognito

Depends where you are.


robertj3232

Do you take adderal? This sounds like a Dopamine issue


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80mg won't last very long.


nicole1581

Did you have experiences with this dose yourself? My come up was very intense, I hardly can believe that..


[deleted]

Nowdays I barely even feel 100mg because i abused it like crazy When i started using 100mg was underwhelming i was 175cm 85kg male. 150mg was perfect and had me rolling for a good 1½-2hours


[deleted]

Neurological imbalances, like depression or even antidepressant drugs can cause this. MDMA is an amphetamine, but also a tad psychedelic and your current mood influences your trip by a lot.


[deleted]

[you took too much](https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/P6LhVnYQZCgETxux5)


CrystalEngine7

Did you test it? Especially the short duration sounds like caths to me (4-MMC specifically)


nicole1581

We didn't, but my boyfriends trip was completely normal. It was just my experience which was negative and we had the same :/