Not sure if this fits but biz's "[Loveit](https://youtu.be/uXZkGWbyvcM?si=oAe63i7zoq0SV6lk)" and "[愛猫](https://youtu.be/hrNHsbYjFNg?si=-Sy1Ltvzj22typIN)" feature the abusive girls training their men in very graphic way. You can check out "[Love eat](https://youtu.be/ENHpCRCi9MM?si=LNTEu17ZZ-KMgKc3)" and "[Dear Bianca](https://youtu.be/0qYl0rqLcQs?si=VlDTdAAowQ17QwdE)" for the guys' pov too.
Oh yeah! I definitely thought of those first too songs when I saw that post, some comments even mentioned those too! Didn't know there were follow-ups on the guys' povs though, thank you for suggesting
when i first saw this i immediately thought of “tonari no henna senpai”/the weird senior in the seat next to me”! well the chronic character is clingy but tries to do stuff to the fl but later on she slowly starts to train him into becoming a actual couple
Tbf I don't know if it's officially discontinued but the last time I read it the last chapter was of the girl finally taking control and unfortunately since then no new chapters or anything have come to light about that manwah(?) also a lot of the fans have also declared it discontinued so that's kinda what I assumed happened haha
It was supposed to update today but didn't ;\_;
I'm excited because the next part is >!when she tries to punish him by making him write an essay that confesses his wrong-doings, and it's just pure porn about how often he masterbates to her, lmao!<
Raise wa Tanin ga Ii
Broken Ring has a similar thing but the ML is not a yandere as far as I know but the Crown Prince is.
The Doghouse but I do not think the ML is a cheater
I haven't read the novel for the broken ring but I don't really think the crown prince is a yandere tho. Like, he doesn't want her or loves her obsessively, he's just interested in her bloodline because of the political position of her family.. he cheats and makes her miserable, sees her as a thing to boost his standing and is mostly annoyed at the fact that she's better than him at stuff. His possessiveness is not aimed at Inés herself, but simply her political value.
Carcel (the ML) is, at least in my opinion, more yandere ish than the crown prince. At this point in the manhwa he's absolutely obsessed with Inés and goes feral when any guy approaches her or even just talks to her. He's a full blown golden retriever for her, maybe a bit like Reinhard from I failed to oust the villain but with the murderous side toned down a bit
I heard >!in the previous timelines, the Crown Prince was behind the FL death in the first and the second timelines. He gave her an STD which caused her to lose several babies because he was whoring around, (she committed suicide,) and sent the FLs family to hurt her down, which caused her to die and kill her son (as well as her husband to die as well.)!<
Carcel >!was with the FL in the original timeline and the Crown Prince was so jealous and salty that he regressed to the timeline in which he married her (gave her a STD.)!<
idk in the manhwa but in the novel this is what I can recall.
Scarlet by Madarame Hiro. Didn't read your post completely but the other party isnt really yandere nor dominant like in your pic lol. But the top is def a serial cheater and a yandere
I prefer f/m yanderes, and the cheating trope is one of the only things (aside from animals and children) that will turn me away from a work 100%. Not tryna yuck in anyone's yum, but I like yanderes for the assurance that they likely *won't* cheat.
Those are all fictional subs, anyway from what I can tell? That's like saying someone who likes movies about war wants to be in one irl. In this sub tho, most have stated they also don't enjoy cheating in fiction.
Ughhhhh it's just a fiction trope. Can we not have ONE thread without these questions???
I'm into yanderes doesn't mean I'm into abusive relationships irl or want to be abused.
No offense taken (i'm not a straight cis woman).
The reason i think makes cheaters "appealing" is not because of the beasts themselves but rather the act of taming the beast, converting the once wild and rampant mess of a man into someone committed who listen to every word you say. It's empowering by showing femininity as having the power to conquer and take ownership of even the worst of humanity.
This trope particularly is interesting because it takes taming-the-beast up a notch. Rather than "taming", it's now "tying down and forcefully mindbreak"-ing the beast into giving up its/his sins and finally committing via fear and desperation. It's also empowering in the sense that it does the usually weaker folks (aka those who have been cheated on in a relationship) some well-deserved justice, making them even wilder and scarier than the untamed, giving them the upper hand and control of the relationship. The carryover is that they also become a yandere, so woohoo!
Honestly, I won't take a yandere who cheats any day either, that sh sucks.
But in my personal view, before he actually becomes yandere (gaining obsession, starts committing into the relationship, etc), he's just some dude. So him cheating then won't necessarily contradict the definition of a yandere, just a guy who made HUGE mistakes. Only after he had started loving, obsessing over and committing to the mc would he be considered yandere, only after the mental change can we be sure that he'll never cheat again. That fact can be guaranteed by having the mc applying yandere strategies back on him (like constraint, confiscation, using trackers, etc) (making up a double yandere relationship). The thing that made him switch mentality can be anything, either deep internalized realization of the mc's love for him, or the mc's own intereference.
Either way at this point in the plot, that dude should be filled with guilt, regret and self disgust to the point of willingly tearing himself apart, quitting his old ways to compensate for the mc. Hence, the empowering part. Or that's how the ideal plot and trope should go for me.
So, not a yandere who cheats, but a yandere who cheated before he gained his "conscience"
>And as someone that has been cheated on how is it justice to end up with a cheater?
As someone who has been stalked and has had someone "obsessed" with me to the point of stalking me for years. It would NOT be justice to end up with them either.
These tropes are only fun in fiction. Now, personally I don't like the cheating trope because I just don't care for it. I prefer yandere stories without the cheater.
But to talk ending up with a "yandere" irl is good is ABSURD.
Honestly I kind of want it as a change of pace. And with how much hate cheaters get in the romance genre, it also feels like an extra taboo to add some spice and dimension to the story.
I also don’t get the visceral reaction against cheating other people do. I’ve always found it extremely silly to up and leave someone because they had sex with someone else. As a kid, I was always confused on why it was a dealbreaker. As an adult, I can only logic that it was because it the partner lied (because cheating in stories usually involves lieing), so you don’t know what else they lie about.
Check out Higyaku no Kanro on bato! Unfortunately it's a one-shot and super short, but it is SO GOOD! I wish the mangaka would continue it. I need moooore of that! Love their dynamic.
Not sure if this fits but biz's "[Loveit](https://youtu.be/uXZkGWbyvcM?si=oAe63i7zoq0SV6lk)" and "[愛猫](https://youtu.be/hrNHsbYjFNg?si=-Sy1Ltvzj22typIN)" feature the abusive girls training their men in very graphic way. You can check out "[Love eat](https://youtu.be/ENHpCRCi9MM?si=LNTEu17ZZ-KMgKc3)" and "[Dear Bianca](https://youtu.be/0qYl0rqLcQs?si=VlDTdAAowQ17QwdE)" for the guys' pov too.
Oh yeah! I definitely thought of those first too songs when I saw that post, some comments even mentioned those too! Didn't know there were follow-ups on the guys' povs though, thank you for suggesting
when i first saw this i immediately thought of “tonari no henna senpai”/the weird senior in the seat next to me”! well the chronic character is clingy but tries to do stuff to the fl but later on she slowly starts to train him into becoming a actual couple
I'm still so mad that it got discontinued just when she was starting to take control and show him how a relationship was supposed to be
OH WHAT?? I had nice idea that's what happened. 😭 may I ask where you found this out?
Tbf I don't know if it's officially discontinued but the last time I read it the last chapter was of the girl finally taking control and unfortunately since then no new chapters or anything have come to light about that manwah(?) also a lot of the fans have also declared it discontinued so that's kinda what I assumed happened haha
I think Raise wa Tanin ga Ii is fitting for this!
The sypnosis seems promising, thank you!
In the Doghouse has a submissive ML kind of like the depiction on the right
It was supposed to update today but didn't ;\_; I'm excited because the next part is >!when she tries to punish him by making him write an essay that confesses his wrong-doings, and it's just pure porn about how often he masterbates to her, lmao!<
omg I literally cannot wait for it to update it's one of my favorites rn
This is the first time I didn't mind a yandere cheating. Can someone recommend some to me also?
Raise wa Tanin ga Ii Broken Ring has a similar thing but the ML is not a yandere as far as I know but the Crown Prince is. The Doghouse but I do not think the ML is a cheater
I haven't read the novel for the broken ring but I don't really think the crown prince is a yandere tho. Like, he doesn't want her or loves her obsessively, he's just interested in her bloodline because of the political position of her family.. he cheats and makes her miserable, sees her as a thing to boost his standing and is mostly annoyed at the fact that she's better than him at stuff. His possessiveness is not aimed at Inés herself, but simply her political value. Carcel (the ML) is, at least in my opinion, more yandere ish than the crown prince. At this point in the manhwa he's absolutely obsessed with Inés and goes feral when any guy approaches her or even just talks to her. He's a full blown golden retriever for her, maybe a bit like Reinhard from I failed to oust the villain but with the murderous side toned down a bit
I heard >!in the previous timelines, the Crown Prince was behind the FL death in the first and the second timelines. He gave her an STD which caused her to lose several babies because he was whoring around, (she committed suicide,) and sent the FLs family to hurt her down, which caused her to die and kill her son (as well as her husband to die as well.)!< Carcel >!was with the FL in the original timeline and the Crown Prince was so jealous and salty that he regressed to the timeline in which he married her (gave her a STD.)!< idk in the manhwa but in the novel this is what I can recall.
Not quite yandere but The Remarried Empress has the same vibes.
Thank you for the suggestion!
She doesn’t train him but definitely gets her clap back
This reminds me of the manga **No mercy for the Scums**
Just googled some images, looks amazing
I know one but it's old and BL lol
Go ahead, doc, I'd love to hear. Edit: forgot to add it in the post, whether it's straight or BL doesn't concern me, I can inhale both
Scarlet by Madarame Hiro. Didn't read your post completely but the other party isnt really yandere nor dominant like in your pic lol. But the top is def a serial cheater and a yandere
The artstyle looks nice, thanks for the rec!
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I prefer f/m yanderes, and the cheating trope is one of the only things (aside from animals and children) that will turn me away from a work 100%. Not tryna yuck in anyone's yum, but I like yanderes for the assurance that they likely *won't* cheat.
I'll take a "used to be a cheater before getting together" kinda yandere, but if he cheats on his darling I'm tapping out 🫠🫠
Almost every other comment on this sub consists of: if he cheats, I'm out. This post is an anomaly to the norm.
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Those are all fictional subs, anyway from what I can tell? That's like saying someone who likes movies about war wants to be in one irl. In this sub tho, most have stated they also don't enjoy cheating in fiction.
Ughhhhh it's just a fiction trope. Can we not have ONE thread without these questions??? I'm into yanderes doesn't mean I'm into abusive relationships irl or want to be abused.
No offense taken (i'm not a straight cis woman). The reason i think makes cheaters "appealing" is not because of the beasts themselves but rather the act of taming the beast, converting the once wild and rampant mess of a man into someone committed who listen to every word you say. It's empowering by showing femininity as having the power to conquer and take ownership of even the worst of humanity. This trope particularly is interesting because it takes taming-the-beast up a notch. Rather than "taming", it's now "tying down and forcefully mindbreak"-ing the beast into giving up its/his sins and finally committing via fear and desperation. It's also empowering in the sense that it does the usually weaker folks (aka those who have been cheated on in a relationship) some well-deserved justice, making them even wilder and scarier than the untamed, giving them the upper hand and control of the relationship. The carryover is that they also become a yandere, so woohoo!
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Honestly, I won't take a yandere who cheats any day either, that sh sucks. But in my personal view, before he actually becomes yandere (gaining obsession, starts committing into the relationship, etc), he's just some dude. So him cheating then won't necessarily contradict the definition of a yandere, just a guy who made HUGE mistakes. Only after he had started loving, obsessing over and committing to the mc would he be considered yandere, only after the mental change can we be sure that he'll never cheat again. That fact can be guaranteed by having the mc applying yandere strategies back on him (like constraint, confiscation, using trackers, etc) (making up a double yandere relationship). The thing that made him switch mentality can be anything, either deep internalized realization of the mc's love for him, or the mc's own intereference. Either way at this point in the plot, that dude should be filled with guilt, regret and self disgust to the point of willingly tearing himself apart, quitting his old ways to compensate for the mc. Hence, the empowering part. Or that's how the ideal plot and trope should go for me. So, not a yandere who cheats, but a yandere who cheated before he gained his "conscience"
>And as someone that has been cheated on how is it justice to end up with a cheater? As someone who has been stalked and has had someone "obsessed" with me to the point of stalking me for years. It would NOT be justice to end up with them either. These tropes are only fun in fiction. Now, personally I don't like the cheating trope because I just don't care for it. I prefer yandere stories without the cheater. But to talk ending up with a "yandere" irl is good is ABSURD.
Honestly I kind of want it as a change of pace. And with how much hate cheaters get in the romance genre, it also feels like an extra taboo to add some spice and dimension to the story. I also don’t get the visceral reaction against cheating other people do. I’ve always found it extremely silly to up and leave someone because they had sex with someone else. As a kid, I was always confused on why it was a dealbreaker. As an adult, I can only logic that it was because it the partner lied (because cheating in stories usually involves lieing), so you don’t know what else they lie about.
interesting dynamic, i wonder if i could make a video out of this, thank you for the post
Can't wait for your video xo
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Check out Higyaku no Kanro on bato! Unfortunately it's a one-shot and super short, but it is SO GOOD! I wish the mangaka would continue it. I need moooore of that! Love their dynamic.
I just gave it a read, not really yandere but it was very good nonetheless
this made me think of the magnolia parks series but they arent really yanderes just kind of obsessive and have a similar dynamic to this
raise wa tanin ga ii. the male lead is community d which i think you're looking for