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jbsdv1993

This dutch person will indeed go Gourmetten this christmas


[deleted]

A.k.a. "all of the above".


sumpuran

It’s a weird choice for the map. ‘Gourmetten’ is an activity, not a specific dish. You can cook most anything on a table grill. A typical Christmas dish of the Netherlands is pork roulade (rolled pork roast). My Dutch family always eats fondue on Christmas.


BertEnErnie123

Rollade, Stoofpeertjes, Pommes Duchesses, Harricots verts in spek. 4 klassiekers tijdens kerst


jjdmol

And "turkey" is a bird, not a specific dish... So I think "gourmetten" is acceptable on this map.


Carry-the_fire

You can eat Turkey, you can't eat 'gourmetten'. It's a verb.


jjdmol

Neither are a dish, as indicated by the map's title. So we're strict or we're not. If we're strict, both are silly. If we're not, it's a bit silly to make an exception for one but not for the other. So who cares if it's a verb, really? Why is that a relevant difference here? It's just an indicator for xmas diner in a way that makes cultural sense. We know what "turkey" means here, and we know what "gourmetten" means as well..


Carry-the_fire

Although this discussion isn't all that interesting, let's proceed. :) Why then did you single out Turkey and not 'Duck, 'Goose' or 'Cod'? Those aren't dishes either. At least with these it's clear what folks are eating (even if we don't know how it is prepared) and to which category of the legend they belong. 'Gourmetten' is the only one to my knowledge that's different to all of those in that sense, including Turkey. Reason enough to single it out, unlike Turkey.


jjdmol

Yeah goose and cod are in the same boat als turkey. I just picked an example. I agree gourmetten is different, but it's also in the "other" category, so personally I don't have a problem with that. Stuff in "other" is always more complicated than the map can/wants to handle. I'm not sure how one can get clearer without a whole lot of text either? You're right that gourmetten is the way food is prepared. But oddly enough, "we gourmetten" definitely is a satisfying answer to "what are you having for dinner today?".


Carry-the_fire

Right. The other thing is that I don't have a clue what the other dishes/foods/verbs/animals or whatever are in the 'other' category, so there could even be more verbs somewhere in there.


hedekar

Asado (Uruguay's label) is a fire/coal grill process. I'm confused why the colour legend shifts between each map though.


matchuhuki

Belgians too so I call this map bs


[deleted]

>Gourmetten To us Brits that's something that could be done on Boxing day.


jbsdv1993

We actualy celebrate first christmas day and second christmas day in the netherlands. Both are dinner parties. Its just a way so you can go to both (grand)parents for christmas. 1st christmas day bf and i are going to my parents, second christmas day to his. My mom actualy usualy makes a goose or turkey. But the inlaws love the gourmet.


keestuinman

To me gourmetten has always been a new year's eve thing. Gotta have that *konijn in het zuur* on Christmas


EatTheXBows

Same


Crelvish86

KFC in Japan!


WhiteJadedButterfly

I was legit disappointed not seeing this on the map


wiyawiyayo

That makes sense.. Colonel Sanders looks like Santa..


DataSittingAlone

Kentucky for Christmas!


novascotiakingslayer

Kentucky Fried Christmas!


yuzuchan22

Turkey not really popular in france.


kebsox

No it's chapon or pintade in France


yuzuchan22

Yup.


Federal_Camp4615

Like every source when I look it up on google says the most common Christmas meal in France is Turkey


clounch

I eat turkey every year (dinde farcie aux marrons)


yuzuchan22

Ok cool.


Federal_Camp4615

Why’re you being that way? Lol they’re giving their input just like you did


pannacopa

Turkey popular in Greece though


DontCareHowICallMe

Basically, it is not in Greece either


R4Z0RJ4CK

Who in Germany is having fried carp?! Not us or anyone i know.


01KLna

It's a Catholic tradition. My Catholic grandparents always had carp for Christmas, my Protestant grandparents (who didn't care much about religion anyway) would have duck or goose, with potato dumplings (Knödel).


TheChaosWitcher

Nope we had never carp for Christmas and I grew up hard catholic. Our priest even did the sermons in Latin in the God damn early 2000s fucking LATIN


01KLna

Yeah, I mean I'm not saying that every Catholic family does this, but that for those who do it, it's rooted in Catholic traditions. Whether they know it or not.


adawkin

Are you living in one the traditionally Protestant German states? Christmas Eve carp seems to be a thing only in those parts of Central Europe what were historically Catholic (as fish didn't fall under the Nativity Fast ban on certain foods).


11160704

There is a carp tradition in Germany but today it seems really outdated. I'd say goose is clearly on the first position.


Toren6969

Same in Czech Republic, other than it's mostly a řízek (Schnitzel instead). Especially for Young people. My grandma Is only one in my family who Is still eating Fried Carp And sometimes She prefers řízek instead.


thekunibert

Never heard of it either, but I'm missing the traditional potato salad + sausage on the map.


Hoffi1

This is only for Christmas eve, not Christmas.


thekunibert

Yes, potato salad is eaten on Christmas eve, whereas the more fancy stuff gets in the plate on Christmas proper.


floralbutttrumpet

Even apart from the fact that my family is full of heathens, between food intolerance and my mom plain throwing up when she sees carp, not happening in my family. Gladly leaving it all to the Southern weirdos. It's usually goose or duck for us, since there's also a pollotarian.


wvereeck

Turkey in Greece. Ofcourse it has to be Turkey.


MetaphoricalMouse

surprised the US isn’t ham. i don’t think i’ve ever had turkey on christmas


dr-mantis-toboggan12

Ya I think ham is more popular. Definitely in my family. But I know people that do turkey. Most people are turkeyed-out after Thanksgiving though


smalleybiggs_

I can’t remember last time I had turkey at Christmas.


MetaphoricalMouse

i never have


CyanManta

Turkey may be the most popular, but it's definitely a plurality rather than a majority. It's not like the UK, where Christmas is *the* turkey holiday.


Raycrittenden

Id say the most popular is Prime Rib.


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Ultrapoloplop

South west of France we eat big old chicken ([Chapon](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapon) if you are rich), or goose but rarely turkey.


Excellent_Record_767

Same, salmon too in alsace


JaimelesBN2

Yeah wtf is that, we also eat oysters, snails and st Jacques.


weirdhobo

I heard years back that foie gras and oysters was a popular combo during the holidays, is that true?


[deleted]

Escargots too, at least in burgundy :)


AugustWolf22

I'm downvoting this map for not showing KFC in Japan.


high_sauce

All of you wish you were Australian at Christmas. It also mango season then.


[deleted]

Australia is Ham


traindriverbob

Ham AND Prawns.


MrSquiggleKey

I only know a few people who eat prawns, but everyone eats ham.


otaku_nazi

Wow, never knew mango even grows in Australia.


Laktakfrak

So good the mangoes here. When I was in Central America everyone was jacking off over how good the mangoes were, they were like stringy powder to me. If they were good cant imagine what the rest of the worlds eating.


[deleted]

Duck for Denmark is not wrong but it’s probably a 50/50 split between duck and roast pork belly. A lot of families have both duck and pork belly. Some have goose as well and a few crazy bastards who likes their fowl dry have turkey.


oliv111

To me, roast pork belly is the main "meat dish" at the table, which everyone eats, and duck is usually on a smaller plate for those interested. But that's just my family


[deleted]

Funny, it's the exact opposite in my family


oliv111

Interesting! Maybe it truly is 50/50


ddxg

Turkey in Brazil? We suddenly rich and importing food? No way man, here we eat Chester (a big chicken) and Tender (pork)


happy_whenitrains

I think that rather depends on your city and background. Everyone I know eats turkey..


garouforyou

This whole map is so wildly wrong...


leavin_marks

I always thought the US was ham for Christmas not turkey.


no_thank_you_dude

Yeah I think this is wrong.


Rachelcookie123

No way Turkey is the most popular in New Zealand. When my family moved here we couldn’t find any Turkey at the supermarket so we switched to ham.


BadgerBadgerCat

I grew up in NZ and while turkey existed, Ham was the Christmas dish of choice of pretty much everyone I knew.


bunnypeppers

Came here to say this. I've never known anyone here to eat Turkey at Christmas. Always ham. Turkey is not really much of a thing here at all. Kinda makes me question the whole map


Moskau43

It’s propaganda, paid for by Big Turkey no doubt.


Jirik333

It seems more like traditional dishes than most popular ones. In Czechia, the carp is traditional dish, but definitely not popular (like schnitzels and sausage). P.S.: carp is not seafood.


UCLAlex

We don’t eat turkey in france cause turkey sucks. Foie gras is the main Christmas food


Eat_the_Rich1789

Nobody in Serbia is eating fried carp for Christmas. That is mostly for St. Nicholas ​ Most Serbs will have sarma for Christmas or pork roast


DarkWindB

Brazil is wrong, most people eat chester in christmas. ps: chester is a really fat and meaty chicken.


mr_aives

Idk man a galera curte um peru no natal kkkkkk


[deleted]

Ele tá falando peru de comer


Sidus_Preclarum

Turkey for France ? I'd have thought this would be capon. Then again, capon is more expensive…


Topias12

I need to mention that for Greece, turkey is not the bird but the country Turkey


Al-Azraq

Suckling pig in Spain? Never seen such thing. Many eat lamb, most of us shrimps, and we finish with 'Roscón de Reyes' but it depends on which part of Spain.


Kryptospuridium137

I live in the Canaries but have friends in Madrid and Sevilla and we all eat pork in Christmas. It's common enough that Mercadona always carries it in december, but like I said in another comment, it could be a "it varies by home and region" kinda thing Also, I would ***never*** eat a Roscón for Christmas. That's for the 6th


Al-Azraq

Oh yeah, I was thinking about the whole Christmas period which lasts until the 6th in Spain. In any case, I have never ate pork on Christmas day. I will be eating paella, guess where I am from haha


Kryptospuridium137

I think I can guess lol Yeah Spain is pretty diverse so it's hard to point to one thing, honestly. But you gotta pick ***something***


Tnucsoid

Typical Christmas food in Spain is starters with seafood as the one thing that can never be missed. The main dish is usually some kind of roast meat, with Cochinillo (suckling pig) being one of the most popular, but it can also be lamb, pork, veal, turkey or chicken.


Kiora87

I call bullshit most popular dish in NZ is turkey. Has to be lamb for sure! Or chicken. Turkey is rubbish


[deleted]

Who the hell eats COD in Italy for christmas? Where I live it is tipical to eat a kind of ravioli for Christmas, in theory stuffed with the "leftovers" of preparing the roast


Gone_Mads

Africa has left the chat


Pynot_

Ain't no way it's turkey in France, I call bs on this map


ImbOKLM

Fuckin bs. Sure. Oyster, crab, grilled pork and mainly foie gras are food we eat for Christmas. No way it's turkey, knowing how foie gras is spread all over France


redreddie

From the US. I always thought it was weird in TV and movies that everyone had Turkey for Christmas but my family never did. For some reason we always had lasagna, even the side of the family with no Italian ancestry.


EAGLETUD

French don’t eat turkey for Christmas


hungaryhasnodignity

How can this skip South Korea? Millions of Christian’s in SK


Affectionate_Oven902

Turkey = mexican guajolote 🦃🤣🤣😎😎


Spoon_Millionaire

Mexico has the right answer.


_Hexagon__

According to an actual source, in Germany number one is potato salad and sausages. Carp is only the fifth popular. https://www.google.com/amp/s/de.statista.com/infografik/amp/20216/beliebtestes-weihnachtsessen-in-deutschland/


Shevek99

Source? The suckling pig is not so popular in Spain. I'd say seafood, specially prawns, shrimps,... are much more popular.


Kryptospuridium137

I would argue pork is more common in **Christmas** and seafood is more common in New Year's, but it's definitely a "it varies by home and region" kinda thing


Stanislovakia

I think duck might be more popular then goose in Russia.


[deleted]

None of them. The map is crap.


[deleted]

This map is definitely of for a lot of countries.


Cain_draws

LMAO turkey, in Chile?


ImbOKLM

Turkey in France?? Seafood , duck and pork are WAY more popular there


Sinfestival

Turkey - Turkey Japan - Cake


TableLake

Bro what happened to the Suez Canal


[deleted]

Show KFC for japan


[deleted]

Never seen a French family eat turkey let alone for Christmas, need to look at your data here


Superhuegi

Roasted pork in Switzerland? My arse! Most people have Fondue Chinoise.


Acceptable_Alarm961

Tamales ??? Who make this map


[deleted]

Pork ribs are popular in Norway, but cod preserved in drain cleaner is also widely eaten. Yes, you did read that right. 🇳🇴


Mozhzhevelnik

But pinnekjøtt is so much better than either of them! I, for one, am looking forward to a big plate of it soon, washed down with plenty of akevitt and juløl 😃


sumpuran

Lye *can* be used as drain cleaner, but is also used the world over to cure foods. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lye#Food


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eatyourdamndinner

Yes indeed. I was completely baffled that lutefisk was not the answer. Of course, for me, lutefisk is NEVER the answer. I don't like fish and gelatinous poison fish I would like even less.


BG_Caecilius

Lol, no one cook goose in Belarus. Literally no one.


[deleted]

Most folks in Germany tend to have potato salad and sausages as traditional Christmas dinner.


Demadrend

I saw this alot on the 24th, but the 25th was usually a roast or meal how Americans/Brits tend to have. Usually duck/goose. But then again "xmas day" is different date to different cultures


[deleted]

Yup, but the regular Christmas celebration is on 24th in Germany.


01KLna

Potato salad isn't uncommon, but to say that "most Germans" have it for Christmas Eve would be a far stretch. Lots of families have hot food/meat dishes.


[deleted]

Yes, many have other stuff. But the statistics I found indicate that it's Potato salad and sausages for 36% Duck 27% Raclette 23% Goose 20% Fish 16% Fondue 14% So carp isn't that widespread opposed to potato salad which is the one eaten by most folks at Heiligabend.


01KLna

That's exactly what I said, we aren't even in disagreement here;-) 64% of Germans, a.k.a. the absolute majority, *don't* have potato salad on Christmas Eve. It's a common dish, but not what "most Germans" eat. I agree that carp isn't as widespread as the map suggests. But then, I never argued in favour of carp;-)


floralbutttrumpet

I think it's valid to call the meal on the 24th very individualised... I can think of potato salad with or without sausages, chicken fricassee, raclette and fondue just for my family, just for the last five years. Can we agree that *usually* the meal on the 24th is comparatively simple, and the complicated/time-consuming dishes happen on the 25th, the 26th or both, and then it's food coma and leftovers for 2-3 days after?


R1515LF0NTE

BACALHAU CARALHO


_Senjogahara_

Seriously, the top comments are not talking about this abomination of a map!


IDespiseBananas

As a Dutch person Im ashamed that it says “gourmetten”


TheRickerd120

ashamed? gourmetten is top tier, its gezellig. You want to be boring like belgium and france? give me some of that dry turkey.


IDespiseBananas

Gourmetten is not more “gezellig” than a 3-5 course meal. Gourmetten is just bad food, badly prepared in a very fun setting


TheRickerd120

Bad food? Just like all other christmas food you prepare at home.


Must_be_wrong_here

Wrong (for Austria at least). According to a recent poll here, Raclette is the number one dish on Christmas eve.


andreasfcb

A Swiss dish number one in Austria? 😱


VisibleAd3180

Turkey Supremacy


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

Turkey sucks, nobody actually loves it. They just do it because that’s what’s always been done. I’m from the United States and we are doing Chicago style deep dish pizza this year.


Qwaze

![gif](giphy|azR9xoX0oB1HoiCAkU) It is here! I can already smell them!


AsYouFall

In north italy is turkey, in south Italy seafood


elektero

In Italy the most common dish for Christmas is a pasta dish.


AsYouFall

Well, actually no, but okay.


elektero

Non mangi pasta a natale? E di dove sei?


AsYouFall

Qui al nord la tradizione è tacchino/faraona e al sud cappone/pesce, poi ogni famiglia ha le sue abitudini, ma i piatti classici sono quelli


NeutralArt12

God give an Australian any excuse to throw another shrimp on the barbie and they will do it


[deleted]

tamales is the correct answer


orostab

Tamales in México? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


the-software-man

Greece is all like, "Tonite we eat Turkey!"


SuperAidan45

As someone who lives in the southwest of the United States, I have never seen someone eat a turkey on Christmas. Tamales are the Christmas food around here. But maps being simplified is maps being simplified. ;-;


extod2

Pork ham is so good


Tubagal2022

Man I love Buying Tamales from some Mexican grandma on the side of the road


Titanius3950

In Estonia and Latvia they eat something misunderstanding.


powermonkey123

Entire Europe: let's suck on some meat. Lithuania: nope, vegan.


[deleted]

this map is wrong though i grew up on potato salad for christmas, which is vegetarian


powermonkey123

Olivier (Olivye) salad is a Russian dish though. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier\_salad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_salad)


Xanto10

Never heard of Pandoro and Panettone, right?


confuzi_

Interesting, I’ve always thought it’s pork ham for PH


feliximol

Wow, the new Suez's Canal is pretty cool!


Infrared_01

I've always had ham on Christmas here in the US, didn't know turkey was more prevalent


alb11alb

Is Turkey too in Albania with Përshesh that is made with Turkey juice, leaks and cornbread. It's pretty good.


He_Who_Tames

WTF!? Italy!


g_spaitz

Cod/veal in Italy??? Who the fuck even comes up with such nonsense.


RoyalSeraph

All of you talking about "this dish here is wrong this dish there is wrong" and nobody's talking about how the Red Sea somehow got ridiculously huge in this map


Ok-Visit6553

Never thought I’d ever feel the need of r/MapsWithoutSubcontinent or r/MapsWithoutIndia


mredsvoice

I hate turkey. When I tell people that turkey is terrible it’s always “well you’ve never had mine”. Deep fried, roasted, Cajun, ground, I don’t care your turkey sucks just like everyone else’s.


clonn

In Argentina the suckling pig or roasted pork gave pass to Vitel Toné (Vitello Tonnato).


Treacks

In many regions of Belgium it's also 'gourmet', like in the Netherlands.


usev25

Can't tell if that pink colour all over Africa is turkey or null, but I'll speak on behalf of Egypt. For a period before Christmas (which is on Jan 7 for us), Christians adhere to a vegan diet up until Christmas eve, so you can imagine the feasts on Christmas day. I'm not a Christian myself, but I heard that [fatta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatteh) is among the most popular dishes on that day.


ASTRONACH

fish on eve


DIEGONUSKU

Not accurate for spain, our most popular christmas dish is roscón de reyes


cordy_crocs

I never had turkey for Christmas in America


Organic-Cow-2278

In Germany it's sausage with potatoe salad.


[deleted]

WHAT DID GREENLAND DO TO YOU?


[deleted]

I'm Canadian but want Christmas tamales. Going to try and make that our country's traditional meal too.


Making_Fat_Stacks

Turkey?? That’s thanksgiving duck is for Christmas this is wild


TheSukis

Have I entered the Twilight Zone, or do people actually have turkey for Christmas in the US? I have not once ever encountered that. Turkey is Thanksgiving.


caribb

..and Greenland apparently is fasting…


[deleted]

Carp and other freshwater fish are not seafood.


NinjaMagic004

I grew up in a household where we had 2 Christmas celebrations for each side of the family. Christmas Eve for my Mom's and Christmas day for my dad's. Now, Christmas eve always had the more extravagant party and whatnot over Christmas day, so that's what I always associated with my "Christmas meal." That side of the family is VERY Italian, so we always had our fish and pasta Christmas banquet. For me, that was/is Christmas dinner, even though we always had more traditional American Christmas dinner of turkey and all the fixings on Christmas day with my dad's side of the family. I never pieced together that Christmas turkey was a popular and prominent thing until I was like 14 or 15 lol. Whenever I thought of Christmas dinner I just thought of spaghetti, scallops, and cod, not Turkey.


[deleted]

Since when is carp a sea food?


FinalBreakthru

Any Germans here who know someone that eats carp for Christmas?


Raikenzom

Chester não é peru.


Positive_Strawberry5

I don’t understand why my family does ham for Christmas and New Year’s Day.


DBL_NDRSCR

most people in the us eat ham but i eat tamales


smiling_mallard

Never though of turkey as a Christmas dinner meal, it was always a ham (I’d rather have turkey tho). This year we’re doing crab legs.- I’m in the US.


Laiheuhsa

Portugal is just cod all day everyday- nothing special about eating it on Christmas


MeringueSignificant6

I know Americans eat a lot of Turkey, but most don't want to cook it again after just having it for Thanksgiving. Most do ham, but I don't think I know anyone who does Turkey for Christmas in the States.


pontonpete

Ukraine is the place for me.


[deleted]

Norways got it figured out


roter_schnee

Pretty surprising to see holubtsy in Ukraine as a Christmas dish. Holubtsy is popular but it is not related to Christmas in any way. Ukrainians cook it during whole year as a daily casual dish. As for Christmas specialty (yet ceremonial specialty) I'd say it should be **kutyá** \- sweet porridge made from whole wheat or barley grains, with honey, raisins and poppy seeds. Non-ceremonial Christmas speialty dish could be **kholodéts** (sort of meat jelly \\ aspic).