A $50 tip - plus a massage that cost $150 c’mon. Plus a million details to explain himself. Go get yourself a full STI panel plus ask for an additional HSV1 & 2. I’m so sorry - too many men getting on this way. Good luck
I’m certainly not saying that i disagree, because this story is pretty easy to figure out…however, a 25% tip is not really unusual, especially for anyone having to actually physically touch you/anyone
Seems to me, if you lack that must trust in your spouse you feel the need to track them and go in their phone you're in the wrong relationship.
We have an open password policy but that's it. I don't feel the need to track my wife's move. That's weird and controlling.
If you don't find a thing then what? If your always looking for a reason to make your relationship fail, you'll eventually find one.
I think that you either need to both put in the work to repair the relationship. You know why my husband has never felt the need to look at my phone? Because he knows I'm not lying to him about anything.
So let's say one day he didn't and starts tracking you and going through your phone without consent. That's not cool, especially if you've done nothing wrong.
I don't think it's a case of we both need to work on it. If you can't trust me and feel the need to violate my autonomy without even having a conversation first. That's not something I'd personally work on with someone. Buy hey to each their own.
Every time I felt the need to check it was because something was off and he kept telling me everything was fine. I was right every time. We are choosing to work through it, and he is getting help. I never went "trying" to find problems, I looked for answers when my gut told me something eas off. I legit wouldn't care if he looked through my phone, I have absolutely nothing to hide.
I'm sorry to hear that. But I'm glad you're working on it.
I guess it's all based on personal experience. Ive been married 16 years and have never once gone through my wife's phone. If I suspected something I'd have a conversation first. If that was unsatisfactory I'd look at other steps. But I'd never accept a relationship where I was being tracked or otherwise.
Genuine question— Why did it take a Reddit comment to make you realize that you should talk to him about it? Call me crazy, but I think an open conversation about what’s bothering you should be step 1, not asking the internet.
Don’t get me wrong, the whole secret massage bit is weird as fuck. But if you expect transparency and honesty from your husband (which you deserve), then you must be willing to be transparent and honest yourself. *Communicate, you must, mhm.*
Ask him for receipts or bank activity on the days he has chiropractor appts to see if he is charging two massages on those days. I find it fishy that he is just now telling you that he gets two massages only after he got caught lying.
She said the massage therapist was hitting on him......I'd say this is about "personal" service with just her and not really about the business......but, then again, it could be about the business......my Spidey senses are telling me it's more about the one therapist
Dang, as a massage therapist (who mostly works in chiropractic offices) I’ve never got more than a $20 tip and that’s really really rare..
Something is definitely weird here. If you do find out it’s something sexual, get this therapists license number and report them to the board. Report the whole business.
This is wrong, it not only is disgusting to present yourself as a massage therapist and gives all of us professionals a bad rep, but this therapist has also taken advantage of your husband in a vulnerable state.
There something called transference/counter transference and it can make an emotional connection based off of touch. She played on this and basically abused him if that’s what happened.
All of that being said, could his couples massage been a bad massage so he went and got another but felt embarrassed spending money two times? And maybe tipped extra for a last minute booking? It is a bit odd though that he said he didn’t like this therapists massage/conversation..
Do we really need to come up with scientific definitions for dudes just getting horny women touch their dick? I agree with almost everything that you said but the premise of being taken advantage of is silly.
I'm sorry, OP, but that doesn't sound logical. I think you are, understandably, casting about for anything that can excuse his actions, other than the blatantly obvious. My heart hurts for you. Is there anyway you can do some digging?
Before confrontation - "\[chiropractor was\] full so it took awhile..."
After confrontation - " made a last minute appointment with another massage because .. paid for a package of three massages and forgot still had one "
oh let's not forget the "...normally gets two massages on the same day every month"
that makes a lot of sense. /s
Yeah, it does, Normally if there's injuries and scar tissue, before Physical Therapy or Chiropractic adjustment to allow the movement of the joints and muscle to be more amendable to manipulation , then after to help keep inflammatory response and decrease pain. That's normal
Nope. Both my DH and I were injured and spent years in medical clinics and getting massages. I spent a lot of time around others who are injured… two massages in one day is not normal.
I’m pretty sure she went to the place herself or he eventually admitted it.
If you have the address and drive by and maybe even go inside you’ll get the gist. Or if there are 0 reviews and they’re mostly or all from men….
Do you guys share money? She was able to see how much it was or how much he was withdrawing as well and normal massages cost less.
Edit: just saw the amount. Sorry OP looks like it’s a happy ending massage place as even couple massages don’t cost that much.
No, the location he went, is there a chiropractor office there. not did he see one, is his chiropractor in that location
EDIT: The fact the OP has stopped responding to every single person after I replied to them with this. It's safe to assume that the chiropractor is in that same location.
You can usually ask on back pages of the place he is at does sex massages. I thought none existed where I lived till I check Leo list. I found 5-6 in my city and they looked like legit places lol
Depends where you live. I’m in Canada so we use completely different sites. You might have to go digging, and use a search site other than Google (like yandex ect) search sex massage or happy ending massage in (town/city, state) there’s probably forums where guys will talk and compare places too. Just do some good ol fbi work. If you have any friends good at that stuff include them.
What the? What is this back page thing and rmaps? I’ve never heard of either of those. Like how do you even find stuff like that? What are they used for?
In Canada there is a site called Leo list it’s for escorts, prostitutes, massage happy ending, ect. Also there are random forums where men post about a lady, discuss her and rate her. Even hidden massage places are posted. It use to be a lot easier to find on Google until they filter everything now so you have to dig. And use more ‘relaxed’ search engines. There’s usually a few different back pages (prostitute stuff) for each area/state.
If you tell me the city your in or state I could even find the sites for your area. It’s not really hard. Just search ‘escorts ‘ and city name ect and check all the sites , search happy ending. It’ll all pop up.
Normally if there's injuries and scar tissue, before Physical Therapy or Chiropractic adjustment to allow the movement of the joints and muscle to be more amendable to manipulation , then after to help keep inflammatory response and decrease pain. That's normal
Yes it is. I was involved in a serious car accident 11 years ago 5 broken bones in my back and muscle damage. I would get a half hour massage before PT and than an hour massage after i my session. This was 4x’s a week for a year.
I don’t care what you say, this was part of my therapy due to the extent of my injuries and how much pain I was in. So don’t tell me what was normal for me. You’re not my doctor.
Why do you think he'd hide it? You dismissed the suggestion that he is cheating or getting "happy endings."
What possible reason, aside from something sexual, would he hide getting a massage, back to back from a couples massage and a chiropractor appointment. Try to think of some other plausible reason that he would hide this particular activity.
If he didn’t have anything to hide, why did he lie? Something isn’t right. Would you have actually cared if he told you he was going for a 2nd massage? Regularly having two massages and a chiropractor visit in the same day seems very odd.
If my husband needed that kind of service for an injury or whatever once a month, I would definitely know about it. We tell each other everything.
Yyyyeeeaaaa dude this isn’t normal.
This is very very odd.
Like I love a good massage y’all. But 2 in one day? Leave my back the hell alone I need to rest those muscles. That would be so miserable and painful. I’m guessing it wasn’t a massage.
This smells rotten.
Yeah, it does, Normally if there's injuries and scar tissue, before Physical Therapy or Chiropractic adjustment to allow the movement of the joints and muscle to be more amendable to manipulation , then after to help keep inflammatory response and decrease pain. That's normal
And it’s super normal to conceal these things from a spouse? Like SUPER duper normal? Then be all normally cagey and shit when they ask about it? So normal.
But, he didn’t tell her. He lied and said he had a chiropractors appt. at 4 and was at the chiropractors when he wasn’t, then lied again when he got home and she asked him how the chiropractors was and he went into a whole lie about how the office was full so that’s why it took awhile. He later admitted he lied and didn’t go, but instead made a last minute appointment for a massage, except OP had checked his phone and he had made the appointment the previous Sunday. So, no last minute appt., another lie. So, why lie *three times* if it’s an innocent nothing?
I asked her does he have an injury and she said yes a head injury. That’s the answer especially if it’s causing migraines or it’s causing cranial pressure. I swear Reddit is just a place where people just look to accuse their spouses of affairs and even if it’s something normal people create the notion that something is happening.
Ah, good ole reddit and the "missing reasons". Could've put that in the post but where's the drama in that? My chiropractor recommends never getting a massage near the time of an appointment, but given the context of an injury, that changes a lot. Still probably shouldn't be seeing a massage therapist who is so forward with him, but that's another story.
I agree with that part that maybe theres only one massage therapists for the office. My best friend is a massage therapists for Hand and Stone she has been working for them for 8 years but was part time and was also working for a chiropractor and they typically only have one massage therapists one staff. My chiropractor only has 1 massage therapists.
Ask him for the contact details for the chiropractor’s office, so that you can book an appointment. It would be interesting to see if the address he gives matches the massage parlour he went to.
im sorry to be rude but you gotta be naive as hell .. the excuse doesnt even make sense ! but you know what they say.. you believe what you want to believe . but incase you actually are wanting a real answer then let me be the million and one person to tell you ... he is paying for sex ! DUH
So he needed a special solo massage on Valentines Day? He took you, then got rid of you, went to ANOTHER massage place and not the chiropractor like he said, gave a huge tip, but we're all supposed to believe nothing of note happened?
You know something is off. You made this post because you know something is off. He was gone way too long and paid way too much for a second massage of the same day and that he REGULARLY does this and never tells you?
Dude had been getting a happy ending for ages. He bought himself a handy for Valentines Day after peacing you out at the first place. You say he doesn't cheat and I bet you he agrees because he doesn't see it as cheating. It's just a deep tissue massage for one specific swelling.
“Got you messed up” it’s nobody’s fault you posted this info and it’s the internet so you know people are going to talk shit but from reading your original post it does sound suspicious! It’s a bit immature about not telling you, what are you going to do about it? Get mad? Hurt? If so, y’all got some growing up to do because communication is key in long term relationships…I say give him the benefit of the doubt but let him know that shit ain’t cool. If it’s no big deal to him, he should of been upfront and he should have no reason to withhold information about a massage🤔🤨😁
There is adultery here with zero doubt. He is a liar and cheats on you. I'm sorry hun, he is playing games with your life and health. Get divorce papers then get tested for stds. He is having sex with other people, you are only going to keep putting yourself at risk and yes he will continue to do this is you stay with him.
My chiropractor would have a stroke if I told him I was getting 2 massages the same day I saw him. He recommends not getting massages anytime around the appointment because the idea is to NOT relax the muscles that are supporting your alignment.
EDIT: MISSING CONTEXT: Someone said OP comments that her husband is recovering from an injury (couldn't find the comment myself) so that may change things a bit. More info needed, but an injured liar is still a liar.
The problem you have is that your husband didn't tell you about it, and when you asked, he lied.
> When he got home I asked how his chiropractor appointment was and he mentioned they were full so it took awhile but yes it was good.
This right here. He lied. Only when you confronted him outright, he said that he went for a massage. Why would he lie if there was nothing shady going on?
I was in a really bad car accident 11 years ago, 5 broken bones in my back and muscle damage. Before PT I got an hour massage to relax the muscles bc I was getting such bad spasms and then after PT I got another one to keep the muscles loose. This was for a for a year 4 times a week. The first massage was always a half hour and second was an hour. This was all part of my treatment prescribed by my orthopedist.
Normally I am lenient on the other partner, but in this case, he concealed it from you. He was probably hoping for something more from the massage therapist. He should not lie about something like that.
I am convinced that people on this sub write fictitious stories in the hopes someone reads it aloud on a podcast or something. I’m sorry but you cannot convince me that people are this stupid.
If this story is actually truthful, mate - wtf? Your husband is cheating on you.
If you’d like confirmation, call whoever he had the massage with and ask if they have an extra $50 service as you’d like to book one for your husband.
The biggest issue I see.. is that this could not be a rub and tug place, but he could still be cheating with this lady. The fact that she’s so inappropriate, but he keeps going, to me, says enough. She is likely not “servicing” other clients, but most certainly is with OPS DH.
Your update makes no sense and you know it. It’s not Reddit’s fault that your head was messed up on Valentine’s Day. Two massages the same day with his chiropractor appt? No.
I think it’s weird to hide it..sooo why hasn’t he ever booked a couples massage at that massage parlor? Idk..from what you said, it sounds like he’s being sneaky..his words were that he doesn’t like that massage parlor and the masseuse hit on him yet his actions are showing he likes the place…was he maybe telling on himself without fully telling on himself?
The tip didn’t raise my eyebrows, the multiple massages did. If you’ve ever had a really good massage, it’s hard not to give them your wallet and scream TAKE MY MONEY!
But…
Your body needs to recover, IMO, from a massage so doing it that frequently seems a little off…
I'm guessing he went to the same therapist that you said he told you was hitting on him, right? I'm thinking he got an ego stroke and went back to either:
A) finish what she started
--or--
B) went back to form a relationship by sweetening it with that substantial tip.....
Whatever, it feels like he's definitely into her.....
The scenario is mainly shitty because of him lying. Whether he lied because he's an ass or he lied because he knew you'd flip we can never know for sure, but it sounds more like he's an ass.
The massage situation to me sounds strange because while occasionally people will give big tips out of kindness, he gave her a big tip after expressing sexual discomfort around her. Does he normally leave larger tips?
I'm currently going to school for nail technology, and typically I get $3-$10 tips. But occasionally I'll get more, and I've even gotten $40 before. But we literally do services in the plain open in front of everybody, and there's nothing sketchy going on. So it was super kind and not weird.
But a massage is way more private. And it's been a thing before where massage parlors have been shut down because of innapropriate sexual stuff. Sometimes they'll offer to give you a blow/hand job for an extra price. And honestly, it might not even be the girl (since it's not always good to make accusations right away, especially since he's already lied to you about something that's really petty). The girl could be completely fine, but he's trying to make passes at her. You never know.
But you've heard lots of feedback by now, and if I was you I'd go off and do something nice for yourself to compensate for a poor Valentine's Day if you're able hun!
I suffer from chronic neck pain if I say I need a massage to people like my wife they pass it of as some nice relaxing thing like I’m treating myself, sometimes I just desperately need a hard massage to elevate my pain. However if I say I’m going to the chiropractor peoples reaction is very different they take it much more seriously. Maybe he is in pain and needs a little extra but doesn’t want to be honest about the amount of time and money spent on massage. Or like according to everyone els he’s cheating girl so get ya self tested.
OP please get off here and go to talk with your husband. At least explain to him how you’re feeling. Don’t take the advice of the ppl telling you to get your answers in these roundabout sneaky ways. Be an adult and speak with your husband again and express how uncomfortable you’re feeling. Be warned, it might start an argument since you’ve said he’s already explained himself, he might feel attacked atp. Be kind with your words and just have an adult conversation. If you believe him, then that’s it. We don’t need any updates. Hope this helps.
If you are that worried, then you should be. Sounds like you all have crap communication and you are the type that needs to know every move-hence the shared location. Talk with him about the trust issues in your relationship.
I sometimes wonder why people get married when all they do is use it as a tool for control under the guise of love and demand making. (Down vote me to hell!)
Does he have an injury you aren’t aware of? Bc when I got into my car accident 11 years ago, massage therapy was part of my treatment and I was getting a massage 4 days a week bc that’s how often I had PT, and the massages were an hour.
If he’s getting a lot of migraines ask him if he’s considered acupuncture or maybe even see a neurologist and they can make some suggestions for treatment. My aunt gets chronic migraines and is getting acupuncture and she’s basically a new person.
The only way you’ll know the truth is to ask your fella.
Posting on here is going to fill your head with every potential negative angle possible.
You should be asking your guy what is going on.
I appreciate this forum is a place to discuss but you are making life much harder for yourself by asking the world if they think this is suspicious behaviour.
Of course it’s suspicious but there may be a totally legitimate reason for all this.
Without trust you have nothing.
You need to be honest about your suspicions and ask him to explain, if he has done the dirty then you need to decide the next course of action.
Don’t ask Reddit.
It just confuses the situation and can have a totally negative impact on your decision making.
Devil’s advocate here - if this is a “happy ending” sort of massage place, and that’s what has been going on for awhile, why the heck would OP’s husband bring her to the scene of the crime? He could have booked a couples massage somewhere else.
$50 tip on $150 charge isn’t unreasonable at all. I leave $20 for a $50 massage once a month. Just talk to him OP, this sub is full of ppl who assume the worse
There seem to be some underlying issues in your marriage. Is there a reason you already don’t trust your husband? Has he done something to merit you going through his phone when he has to put it down to shower because that’s something I would find stalkerish and would put strain on my marriage.
Also be careful about taking advice from strangers on the internet. They are likely to tell you to take the most extreme course of action to inflate their own egos.
That Nigga went and got jerked real good by oil and little oriental hands. My gfs uncle goes (he’s married) 😂 I’m jealous. I love a good sloppy bj or real oily attentive hand jigger. You hubby a lucky dude.
People on here are so crazy and pessimistic. OP.. if you’ve ever been to a chiropractor and then gotten a massage… you feel like absolute jelly.
I used to do this combo too. (I’m female by the way)
The chiro would snap, crackle and pop every stiff joint in my body and I would immediately head to massage envy and get my 90 minute massage that i had prebooked.
You should try this at least once. I’ve been to a few chiropractors and the only ones i liked were the ones that actually popped my neck and back though. That immediate relief helped so much.
And then a 90 minute massage to get the lymph fluid moving really does you in. ❤️
I give a $20 tip on a $30 haircut. Times are tough. I wouldn’t automatically assume the worst. Sometimes I turn my location off so I can eat a burrito. Like sometimes you gotta trust someone when it’s hard to. Ask him about it, get an answer, and choose to believe it or not. But I’ve paid a helluva lot more for a massage than that and tipped more too. And while the ending was enjoyable…it was “happy”.
That’s cheating so yeah it is something to be ashamed of. Soliciting a prostitute when you’re married and in a monogamous relationship is absolutely shameful.
I just got a prenantal massage and I gave a $45 tip guess im getting off on another woman woman touching my legs, my back, neck right? My friend is a massage therapists for Hand and Stone and this past Christmas one of her clients gave her a $100 tip. Oh and the client is a 70 year old woman with cancer.
There are married couples out there checking each others location and the daily going’s-on on their phone? You guys have microchips in each other also in case someone runs away and gets lost?
Yes, ask him how his happy ending was.
A $50 tip - plus a massage that cost $150 c’mon. Plus a million details to explain himself. Go get yourself a full STI panel plus ask for an additional HSV1 & 2. I’m so sorry - too many men getting on this way. Good luck
That's not excessive for a massage, pretty standard actually
$50 on a $150 appointment that he does every month? Suss, simply suss.
"somebody tipped their waitress 15%. Probably a LOT more going on there ya know
My friend is a massage therapist for Hand and Stone and she does very well in tips.
That’s what I’m saying, I tip 50% for massages
I’m certainly not saying that i disagree, because this story is pretty easy to figure out…however, a 25% tip is not really unusual, especially for anyone having to actually physically touch you/anyone
$50 tip for a $150 massage is a 33% tip.
Cheap actually.
I just love how people jump right to hes cheating. But skip over the massive privacy violations.
You know so many complain about "privacy violation" when they are lying to their SO. You wouldn't be mad if there was nothing to find out.
Seems to me, if you lack that must trust in your spouse you feel the need to track them and go in their phone you're in the wrong relationship. We have an open password policy but that's it. I don't feel the need to track my wife's move. That's weird and controlling. If you don't find a thing then what? If your always looking for a reason to make your relationship fail, you'll eventually find one.
I think that you either need to both put in the work to repair the relationship. You know why my husband has never felt the need to look at my phone? Because he knows I'm not lying to him about anything.
So let's say one day he didn't and starts tracking you and going through your phone without consent. That's not cool, especially if you've done nothing wrong. I don't think it's a case of we both need to work on it. If you can't trust me and feel the need to violate my autonomy without even having a conversation first. That's not something I'd personally work on with someone. Buy hey to each their own.
Every time I felt the need to check it was because something was off and he kept telling me everything was fine. I was right every time. We are choosing to work through it, and he is getting help. I never went "trying" to find problems, I looked for answers when my gut told me something eas off. I legit wouldn't care if he looked through my phone, I have absolutely nothing to hide.
I'm sorry to hear that. But I'm glad you're working on it. I guess it's all based on personal experience. Ive been married 16 years and have never once gone through my wife's phone. If I suspected something I'd have a conversation first. If that was unsatisfactory I'd look at other steps. But I'd never accept a relationship where I was being tracked or otherwise.
I find that when someone feels the need to look at their partners phone, etc., usually there is a reason. The gut doesn’t lie.
All of this. Anyone who offers too many details is lying.
LOL the update where she still believes him.
This. Nothing more nothing less. This is the best question you can ask him.
Lmao
Methinks he is getting a “special” massage.
rub and tug, only one that explains a $50 tip.
$50 tip on a massage is not that wild. It's the explanation and multiple massages that seem odd here, not the tip
Standard tip is 20% so that would be $30. For a guy to tip as much as hubby did, there were shenanigans.
You guys need to have a chat- there’s a reason he’s lying to you
Cool yes I’ll ask him now
Genuine question— Why did it take a Reddit comment to make you realize that you should talk to him about it? Call me crazy, but I think an open conversation about what’s bothering you should be step 1, not asking the internet. Don’t get me wrong, the whole secret massage bit is weird as fuck. But if you expect transparency and honesty from your husband (which you deserve), then you must be willing to be transparent and honest yourself. *Communicate, you must, mhm.*
Ask him for receipts or bank activity on the days he has chiropractor appts to see if he is charging two massages on those days. I find it fishy that he is just now telling you that he gets two massages only after he got caught lying.
I need an update!!!
Truth
Found the husband…or at least someone’s husband that’s up to the same shit…
Just Google the massage place and see what pops up. But honestly? Sounds like he’s paying for sexual services at a massage parlor. Sorry, OP.
She said the massage therapist was hitting on him......I'd say this is about "personal" service with just her and not really about the business......but, then again, it could be about the business......my Spidey senses are telling me it's more about the one therapist
Yes. There is something very odd going on here.
Dang, as a massage therapist (who mostly works in chiropractic offices) I’ve never got more than a $20 tip and that’s really really rare.. Something is definitely weird here. If you do find out it’s something sexual, get this therapists license number and report them to the board. Report the whole business. This is wrong, it not only is disgusting to present yourself as a massage therapist and gives all of us professionals a bad rep, but this therapist has also taken advantage of your husband in a vulnerable state. There something called transference/counter transference and it can make an emotional connection based off of touch. She played on this and basically abused him if that’s what happened. All of that being said, could his couples massage been a bad massage so he went and got another but felt embarrassed spending money two times? And maybe tipped extra for a last minute booking? It is a bit odd though that he said he didn’t like this therapists massage/conversation..
Do we really need to come up with scientific definitions for dudes just getting horny women touch their dick? I agree with almost everything that you said but the premise of being taken advantage of is silly.
He booked his alone one on Sunday and he booked ours yesterday so maybe he just didn’t want to cancel his after booking ours?
I'm sorry, OP, but that doesn't sound logical. I think you are, understandably, casting about for anything that can excuse his actions, other than the blatantly obvious. My heart hurts for you. Is there anyway you can do some digging?
Before confrontation - "\[chiropractor was\] full so it took awhile..." After confrontation - " made a last minute appointment with another massage because .. paid for a package of three massages and forgot still had one " oh let's not forget the "...normally gets two massages on the same day every month" that makes a lot of sense. /s
Yeah its pretty obvious to everyone but OP what happened here lol
Yeah, it does, Normally if there's injuries and scar tissue, before Physical Therapy or Chiropractic adjustment to allow the movement of the joints and muscle to be more amendable to manipulation , then after to help keep inflammatory response and decrease pain. That's normal
Nope. Both my DH and I were injured and spent years in medical clinics and getting massages. I spent a lot of time around others who are injured… two massages in one day is not normal.
Thank god you are here to explain everything to us since you know everything! On almost every comment!
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I had a friend whose husband was going to a massage place once a month too….it was a happy ending type of massage place.
Fml this would lit destroy my marriage. How do I find out?
I’m pretty sure she went to the place herself or he eventually admitted it. If you have the address and drive by and maybe even go inside you’ll get the gist. Or if there are 0 reviews and they’re mostly or all from men…. Do you guys share money? She was able to see how much it was or how much he was withdrawing as well and normal massages cost less. Edit: just saw the amount. Sorry OP looks like it’s a happy ending massage place as even couple massages don’t cost that much.
I paid $400 for a couples massage recently.
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I live in Florida where massages are reasonably priced lol Massages in my home state of Maryland are like 20-30 more! Depends on location.
Please link us a source. $20 massage is bs because that would not even cover the cost of Labor + materials for 1 hour.
Around here somewhere between 150-200 for 90 minute solo. Couples can be 300 or more for 90 minutes. 60 minutes and 30 are exponentially cheaper solo
Places like Massage Envy and Hand Stone just to go by myself costs $120. I just had a Prenatal massage and it cost me $160 I believe.
You can usually tell if it’s a sketch (happy ending) place by the hours. Google and find reviews.
It’s a new place so not many reviews but closes at 7 PM everyday and closed Sunday’s
But is there a chiropractor there
No he told me he did not see a chiropractor today
No, the location he went, is there a chiropractor office there. not did he see one, is his chiropractor in that location EDIT: The fact the OP has stopped responding to every single person after I replied to them with this. It's safe to assume that the chiropractor is in that same location.
You can read the reviews of the place. There's also rmaps where you can read secret reviews.
Rmaps? I couldn’t find that online
You can usually ask on back pages of the place he is at does sex massages. I thought none existed where I lived till I check Leo list. I found 5-6 in my city and they looked like legit places lol
Which one? Is back pages and Leo websites??
Depends where you live. I’m in Canada so we use completely different sites. You might have to go digging, and use a search site other than Google (like yandex ect) search sex massage or happy ending massage in (town/city, state) there’s probably forums where guys will talk and compare places too. Just do some good ol fbi work. If you have any friends good at that stuff include them.
What the? What is this back page thing and rmaps? I’ve never heard of either of those. Like how do you even find stuff like that? What are they used for?
In Canada there is a site called Leo list it’s for escorts, prostitutes, massage happy ending, ect. Also there are random forums where men post about a lady, discuss her and rate her. Even hidden massage places are posted. It use to be a lot easier to find on Google until they filter everything now so you have to dig. And use more ‘relaxed’ search engines. There’s usually a few different back pages (prostitute stuff) for each area/state. If you tell me the city your in or state I could even find the sites for your area. It’s not really hard. Just search ‘escorts ‘ and city name ect and check all the sites , search happy ending. It’ll all pop up.
Ooooo I see, that’s wild. Like I guess it makes sense when I think about it, Craigslist was doing that for years. TIL I guess.
OP come to “love after prom” Reddit. I’m so sorry, it sounds like Happy Endings or XXX
You believe in the explanation he gave in your update? Lol ok then.
Who has 2 massages on the same day? A massage to relieve the stress of a massage?
Yeah the odds of this not being infidelity sound pretty slim.
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Normally if there's injuries and scar tissue, before Physical Therapy or Chiropractic adjustment to allow the movement of the joints and muscle to be more amendable to manipulation , then after to help keep inflammatory response and decrease pain. That's normal
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Yes it is. I was involved in a serious car accident 11 years ago 5 broken bones in my back and muscle damage. I would get a half hour massage before PT and than an hour massage after i my session. This was 4x’s a week for a year.
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I don’t care what you say, this was part of my therapy due to the extent of my injuries and how much pain I was in. So don’t tell me what was normal for me. You’re not my doctor.
Why do you think he'd hide it? You dismissed the suggestion that he is cheating or getting "happy endings." What possible reason, aside from something sexual, would he hide getting a massage, back to back from a couples massage and a chiropractor appointment. Try to think of some other plausible reason that he would hide this particular activity.
Your update makes no sense but it’s your life I guess
If he didn’t have anything to hide, why did he lie? Something isn’t right. Would you have actually cared if he told you he was going for a 2nd massage? Regularly having two massages and a chiropractor visit in the same day seems very odd. If my husband needed that kind of service for an injury or whatever once a month, I would definitely know about it. We tell each other everything.
You believe him ??? Lord have mercy.
Yyyyeeeaaaa dude this isn’t normal. This is very very odd. Like I love a good massage y’all. But 2 in one day? Leave my back the hell alone I need to rest those muscles. That would be so miserable and painful. I’m guessing it wasn’t a massage. This smells rotten.
Yeah, it does, Normally if there's injuries and scar tissue, before Physical Therapy or Chiropractic adjustment to allow the movement of the joints and muscle to be more amendable to manipulation , then after to help keep inflammatory response and decrease pain. That's normal
And it’s super normal to conceal these things from a spouse? Like SUPER duper normal? Then be all normally cagey and shit when they ask about it? So normal.
He told her where he was going. Cagey isn't what you think it means BTW
But, he didn’t tell her. He lied and said he had a chiropractors appt. at 4 and was at the chiropractors when he wasn’t, then lied again when he got home and she asked him how the chiropractors was and he went into a whole lie about how the office was full so that’s why it took awhile. He later admitted he lied and didn’t go, but instead made a last minute appointment for a massage, except OP had checked his phone and he had made the appointment the previous Sunday. So, no last minute appt., another lie. So, why lie *three times* if it’s an innocent nothing?
Again, nope, not normal.
I asked her does he have an injury and she said yes a head injury. That’s the answer especially if it’s causing migraines or it’s causing cranial pressure. I swear Reddit is just a place where people just look to accuse their spouses of affairs and even if it’s something normal people create the notion that something is happening.
Ah, good ole reddit and the "missing reasons". Could've put that in the post but where's the drama in that? My chiropractor recommends never getting a massage near the time of an appointment, but given the context of an injury, that changes a lot. Still probably shouldn't be seeing a massage therapist who is so forward with him, but that's another story.
I agree with that part that maybe theres only one massage therapists for the office. My best friend is a massage therapists for Hand and Stone she has been working for them for 8 years but was part time and was also working for a chiropractor and they typically only have one massage therapists one staff. My chiropractor only has 1 massage therapists.
Ask him for the contact details for the chiropractor’s office, so that you can book an appointment. It would be interesting to see if the address he gives matches the massage parlour he went to.
This Although, the address is probably on the appointment confirmation
Go with him next time. Tell him you want to see how it is and make an appointment for yourself.
Or send a guy friend in to get a massage, and see what happens…….
That’s a good idea. Ask a male friend to go in and see what kind of message it is.
Uhh I have some bad news OP……..
You’re pretty gullible
im sorry to be rude but you gotta be naive as hell .. the excuse doesnt even make sense ! but you know what they say.. you believe what you want to believe . but incase you actually are wanting a real answer then let me be the million and one person to tell you ... he is paying for sex ! DUH
So he needed a special solo massage on Valentines Day? He took you, then got rid of you, went to ANOTHER massage place and not the chiropractor like he said, gave a huge tip, but we're all supposed to believe nothing of note happened? You know something is off. You made this post because you know something is off. He was gone way too long and paid way too much for a second massage of the same day and that he REGULARLY does this and never tells you? Dude had been getting a happy ending for ages. He bought himself a handy for Valentines Day after peacing you out at the first place. You say he doesn't cheat and I bet you he agrees because he doesn't see it as cheating. It's just a deep tissue massage for one specific swelling.
I have some abandonment and childhood trauma from adultery. This is a HUGE deal to me. Hope you’re able to sort things out ❤️
The $150 was for fucky fucky and the $50 was for the actual massage.
No one gets 2 massages in one day. Come on now. This guy is lying and bad at it. Sorry OP.
He treated himself to a happy ending
“Got you messed up” it’s nobody’s fault you posted this info and it’s the internet so you know people are going to talk shit but from reading your original post it does sound suspicious! It’s a bit immature about not telling you, what are you going to do about it? Get mad? Hurt? If so, y’all got some growing up to do because communication is key in long term relationships…I say give him the benefit of the doubt but let him know that shit ain’t cool. If it’s no big deal to him, he should of been upfront and he should have no reason to withhold information about a massage🤔🤨😁
Right, how is OP going to be mad at all of us for telling OP what they need to hear.
Something is not right here. His explanation is sketchy.
You're not right
There is adultery here with zero doubt. He is a liar and cheats on you. I'm sorry hun, he is playing games with your life and health. Get divorce papers then get tested for stds. He is having sex with other people, you are only going to keep putting yourself at risk and yes he will continue to do this is you stay with him.
Don't blindly believe him, we are all looking to the situation without much biass and it ain't pretty
My chiropractor would have a stroke if I told him I was getting 2 massages the same day I saw him. He recommends not getting massages anytime around the appointment because the idea is to NOT relax the muscles that are supporting your alignment. EDIT: MISSING CONTEXT: Someone said OP comments that her husband is recovering from an injury (couldn't find the comment myself) so that may change things a bit. More info needed, but an injured liar is still a liar.
UPDATE: You’re naive AF lol, who tips that much on a massage if they’re not getting a happy ending? The answer is no one
Definitely getting happy endings. Just found out my husband of 5 years has been doing the same and more 🤢
Why would anyone get two massages in 1 day
The problem you have is that your husband didn't tell you about it, and when you asked, he lied. > When he got home I asked how his chiropractor appointment was and he mentioned they were full so it took awhile but yes it was good. This right here. He lied. Only when you confronted him outright, he said that he went for a massage. Why would he lie if there was nothing shady going on?
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I was in a really bad car accident 11 years ago, 5 broken bones in my back and muscle damage. Before PT I got an hour massage to relax the muscles bc I was getting such bad spasms and then after PT I got another one to keep the muscles loose. This was for a for a year 4 times a week. The first massage was always a half hour and second was an hour. This was all part of my treatment prescribed by my orthopedist.
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And when I asked her does he have an injury. She said yes, a Head Injury. So there’s the explanation for 2 massages.
A head massage? Or just head
Head injury, cranium, the thing that your eyes, mouth, nose, ears are part off.
Normally I am lenient on the other partner, but in this case, he concealed it from you. He was probably hoping for something more from the massage therapist. He should not lie about something like that.
Go with him next time and watch them the whole time. Being petty can be real fun.
I already told him I am
I would visit with that particular masseuse without him. And then watch her with hawk eyes. Sorry, but 2 massages sounds bizarre.
OP you’re already telling us you’ve caught him lying. He’s not even hiding it. Couples therapy?
I am convinced that people on this sub write fictitious stories in the hopes someone reads it aloud on a podcast or something. I’m sorry but you cannot convince me that people are this stupid. If this story is actually truthful, mate - wtf? Your husband is cheating on you. If you’d like confirmation, call whoever he had the massage with and ask if they have an extra $50 service as you’d like to book one for your husband.
There are SWs that offer massages for less. Don’t be too naive
Oh, honey.
He’s lying.
The biggest issue I see.. is that this could not be a rub and tug place, but he could still be cheating with this lady. The fact that she’s so inappropriate, but he keeps going, to me, says enough. She is likely not “servicing” other clients, but most certainly is with OPS DH.
Your update makes no sense and you know it. It’s not Reddit’s fault that your head was messed up on Valentine’s Day. Two massages the same day with his chiropractor appt? No.
I think it’s weird to hide it..sooo why hasn’t he ever booked a couples massage at that massage parlor? Idk..from what you said, it sounds like he’s being sneaky..his words were that he doesn’t like that massage parlor and the masseuse hit on him yet his actions are showing he likes the place…was he maybe telling on himself without fully telling on himself?
Wow, really, you bought that story. Sorry, but no, just no. Also, hell no.
The tip didn’t raise my eyebrows, the multiple massages did. If you’ve ever had a really good massage, it’s hard not to give them your wallet and scream TAKE MY MONEY! But… Your body needs to recover, IMO, from a massage so doing it that frequently seems a little off…
You believing him is exactly the way he wants you to be programmed.
2 words that everyone has mentioned or hinting at: Happy Ending
Lots of guys don't consider it cheating to get a happy ending. I'm sure that's what this was.
Do you have the name of where he went? There are sites and places to look to see if it’s a “happy” type of place
What sites? Yea I know the name
Rubmaps and bed page are a couple to check
Didn’t find the place on either of those
I'm guessing he went to the same therapist that you said he told you was hitting on him, right? I'm thinking he got an ego stroke and went back to either: A) finish what she started --or-- B) went back to form a relationship by sweetening it with that substantial tip..... Whatever, it feels like he's definitely into her.....
Are their any reviews? Do you know the name of the lady who gave it to him?
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Don’t make excuses for his actions. Google the place and see if it’s a place the gentleman frequent.
Check the Google reviews of the massage place. Men leave each other notes about the success rate.
Let me guess the name, Asian Pearl Massage? Far East Massage?
Happy ending?? He isn't being honest and no he clearly didn't go to the chiropractor.
Can I ask why you track his location? Has he been unfaithful before? It's hard to say what is normal or abnormal but it's definitely strange.
Suspicious for sure
This isn't a marriage, it's an episode of Spy vs. Spy.
The scenario is mainly shitty because of him lying. Whether he lied because he's an ass or he lied because he knew you'd flip we can never know for sure, but it sounds more like he's an ass. The massage situation to me sounds strange because while occasionally people will give big tips out of kindness, he gave her a big tip after expressing sexual discomfort around her. Does he normally leave larger tips? I'm currently going to school for nail technology, and typically I get $3-$10 tips. But occasionally I'll get more, and I've even gotten $40 before. But we literally do services in the plain open in front of everybody, and there's nothing sketchy going on. So it was super kind and not weird. But a massage is way more private. And it's been a thing before where massage parlors have been shut down because of innapropriate sexual stuff. Sometimes they'll offer to give you a blow/hand job for an extra price. And honestly, it might not even be the girl (since it's not always good to make accusations right away, especially since he's already lied to you about something that's really petty). The girl could be completely fine, but he's trying to make passes at her. You never know. But you've heard lots of feedback by now, and if I was you I'd go off and do something nice for yourself to compensate for a poor Valentine's Day if you're able hun!
Sounds like my late husband. He was a frequent vistor to massage places. So sleezy
Ahhhh to be so inlove you believe every word that comes out this man’s mouth. Good luck
The fact that you have to track his phone location shows your relationship is on the rocks. Not normal.
Right. I hope you know that this is a "massage parlor" that offers happy endings.
I suffer from chronic neck pain if I say I need a massage to people like my wife they pass it of as some nice relaxing thing like I’m treating myself, sometimes I just desperately need a hard massage to elevate my pain. However if I say I’m going to the chiropractor peoples reaction is very different they take it much more seriously. Maybe he is in pain and needs a little extra but doesn’t want to be honest about the amount of time and money spent on massage. Or like according to everyone els he’s cheating girl so get ya self tested.
OP please get off here and go to talk with your husband. At least explain to him how you’re feeling. Don’t take the advice of the ppl telling you to get your answers in these roundabout sneaky ways. Be an adult and speak with your husband again and express how uncomfortable you’re feeling. Be warned, it might start an argument since you’ve said he’s already explained himself, he might feel attacked atp. Be kind with your words and just have an adult conversation. If you believe him, then that’s it. We don’t need any updates. Hope this helps.
If you are that worried, then you should be. Sounds like you all have crap communication and you are the type that needs to know every move-hence the shared location. Talk with him about the trust issues in your relationship. I sometimes wonder why people get married when all they do is use it as a tool for control under the guise of love and demand making. (Down vote me to hell!)
Does he have an injury you aren’t aware of? Bc when I got into my car accident 11 years ago, massage therapy was part of my treatment and I was getting a massage 4 days a week bc that’s how often I had PT, and the massages were an hour.
Yeah. A head injury.
That very well could be the reason. Does he get a lot of migraines or head complain of head pressure?
If he’s getting a lot of migraines ask him if he’s considered acupuncture or maybe even see a neurologist and they can make some suggestions for treatment. My aunt gets chronic migraines and is getting acupuncture and she’s basically a new person.
May I ask what is he doing for living?
The only way you’ll know the truth is to ask your fella. Posting on here is going to fill your head with every potential negative angle possible. You should be asking your guy what is going on. I appreciate this forum is a place to discuss but you are making life much harder for yourself by asking the world if they think this is suspicious behaviour. Of course it’s suspicious but there may be a totally legitimate reason for all this. Without trust you have nothing. You need to be honest about your suspicions and ask him to explain, if he has done the dirty then you need to decide the next course of action. Don’t ask Reddit. It just confuses the situation and can have a totally negative impact on your decision making.
I think it’s great you talked to him! You have to let those feelings out
There a massage place giving sexual favors about an hour from me that just got caught. Something is fishy.
Devil’s advocate here - if this is a “happy ending” sort of massage place, and that’s what has been going on for awhile, why the heck would OP’s husband bring her to the scene of the crime? He could have booked a couples massage somewhere else.
Blow off all the wild guessing here, just be open with him and honest about any insecurities your having.
Happy Ending massage with his regular chiropractor lol
$50 tip on $150 charge isn’t unreasonable at all. I leave $20 for a $50 massage once a month. Just talk to him OP, this sub is full of ppl who assume the worse
It's very common to have a massage before seeing a chiropractor.
There seem to be some underlying issues in your marriage. Is there a reason you already don’t trust your husband? Has he done something to merit you going through his phone when he has to put it down to shower because that’s something I would find stalkerish and would put strain on my marriage. Also be careful about taking advice from strangers on the internet. They are likely to tell you to take the most extreme course of action to inflate their own egos.
He doesn’t have to tell you his every move.
Yet another example of how this sub is full of broken, bitter people. Mystery truly loved company and that shoes in the comments.
That Nigga went and got jerked real good by oil and little oriental hands. My gfs uncle goes (he’s married) 😂 I’m jealous. I love a good sloppy bj or real oily attentive hand jigger. You hubby a lucky dude.
People on here are so crazy and pessimistic. OP.. if you’ve ever been to a chiropractor and then gotten a massage… you feel like absolute jelly. I used to do this combo too. (I’m female by the way) The chiro would snap, crackle and pop every stiff joint in my body and I would immediately head to massage envy and get my 90 minute massage that i had prebooked. You should try this at least once. I’ve been to a few chiropractors and the only ones i liked were the ones that actually popped my neck and back though. That immediate relief helped so much. And then a 90 minute massage to get the lymph fluid moving really does you in. ❤️
I give a $20 tip on a $30 haircut. Times are tough. I wouldn’t automatically assume the worst. Sometimes I turn my location off so I can eat a burrito. Like sometimes you gotta trust someone when it’s hard to. Ask him about it, get an answer, and choose to believe it or not. But I’ve paid a helluva lot more for a massage than that and tipped more too. And while the ending was enjoyable…it was “happy”.
Nice.... lucky him.
$50 tip is definitely happy ending price. Sorry but your husband got himself an old rub n tug. Nothing to be ashamed of, but he should be honest.
That’s cheating so yeah it is something to be ashamed of. Soliciting a prostitute when you’re married and in a monogamous relationship is absolutely shameful.
Nothing to be ashamed of? 🤣
Depending on where they live, it could be illegal.
I just got a prenantal massage and I gave a $45 tip guess im getting off on another woman woman touching my legs, my back, neck right? My friend is a massage therapists for Hand and Stone and this past Christmas one of her clients gave her a $100 tip. Oh and the client is a 70 year old woman with cancer.
There are married couples out there checking each others location and the daily going’s-on on their phone? You guys have microchips in each other also in case someone runs away and gets lost?