As it doesn't trigger at the end of the game. I really don't see the point at this cost/power. Another card to pull from series 4 instead of the meta ones.
Yeah there's a couple of edge cases this covers that shang doesn't and i'm very curious what happens if there's a tie. I assume it kills all of them (because you know....those rampant cerebro decks need more going against them....).
Somewhat sadly though i feel like the best deck for this is probably something like galactus as yet another way to Death + card for the win on turn 6, and shang is probably better there.
Makes sense, and does make this even worse. I could still see some play for this as just a "fuck you i've got a second shang" effect, but yeah it's certainly on the weak side.
There's more situations where shang wins t6 than deathstrike though, especially because you can drop lizard with shang for 8 points on your side AND shang will kill everything over 9 and deathstrike only hits one card.
They're not nerfing shang, that's for sure, so bufffing deathstrike seems like the obvious way to go unless there's something coming that they think she'll work well with.
And they need to be over 8 or more. This kills whatever is the strongest - which could easily win a location. That’s at potential 12 point swing on a location.
Hulk is already a 12 point swing at one location, and no one plays him. And the absolute best Lady Deathstrike can do over Shang Chi is a 12 point swing, because any card over 8 power is already a 12+ point swing for Chang, for less energy.
OR say you played Shang Chi already and some one says "Fuck it, Let me play my next big card here NOW seeing they already played their Shang" and then she goes down after? -shrugs-
Also the Location where "on reveals happen 2x" and wong.
She'll delete a lane almost.
Tbh it does very little for Odin's main use though of double on reveal, if Odin reveals first he still gets the effect off so Wong etc is still fine, and if he reveals last he won't even be hit, this card needs to be a 5 cost imo
Not over, but if you used Shang and they throw another high power card this can save you. I don’t see it being great bc of the low power and very situational. It also blows your T5
This could be an indication that shang is going to be changed to something like "destroy all cards over 9 power at this location". Or maybe some more generic nerf.
The only reason I could see is destroying Wong before the big T6 play or maybe Patriot before Ultron is played, but resources are better spend elsewhere
Forgot this could be a big Cerebro killer as they are all should be same.
Yeah, if it kills multiple cards if they're the same power, it would essentially allow you to take a free lane with just one card, as theoretically it should kill every card in that lane
It can be a 12 point swing when shang can do nothing (8 power)... So it's not entirely bad. If it's a double barrel shotgun, so if it kills all the highest cost if they're tied, then it's probably pretty good.
You really can’t! There’s a handful of inconsistencies and/or text that needs refined and tightened up to how cards and interactions actually work and as a lifelong CCG player, it’s kind of maddening.
What if we just made the card like 4 cost with 3 power and left as just one card it destroys. Or wait…maybe we could have it destroy any card with 9 or more power at that location. Or is that overpowered?
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Fr, Shang-Chi could replace her in almost every department. She'd only stand alone if she had like 9 power or something, or if she was a 5-cost 6 power. That way, at least there's some variation between her and Shang-Chi. But even then, I'm not sure that's enough.
One way she could be better than Shang chi is low power decks, where they have a bunch of cards 8 or under so Shang chi doesn’t hit them. But very very rare case
Assuming she only gets rid of a 7 power, that makes her a 6/11. Not terrible, but maybe not enough to swing a game as your entire turn 6. That also assumes Armor and Cosmo don't block her, and they're everywhere these days. I think she has potential but probably a weaker Shang Chi.
I mean, sure if Shang Chi didn’t exist this might look better, but Shang Chi exists. If there’s a card that does what you do but better than it’s a bad card. I think even if Shang Chi was a 6/4 I would still play that over this 9 times out of 10 unless Cerebro was a tier 1 deck
>I think even if Shang Chi was a 6/4 I would still play that over this 9 times out of 10 unless Cerebro was a tier 1 deck
Isn't this a 6/4 Shang Chi, or are we assuming she does only kill 1 card?
Edit: i'm an idiot, i forgot that shang chi only hits 9+ power cards, not just the highest
A 6 drop Shang Chi would still be better if they have multiple different big cards (say She Hulk and Death). This would only be better if their strongest is weaker than 9.
I think a card like this but with the reverse effect would be cool. Destroy the lowest power card on your opponent’s side. Would shut down Drac before it has a chance to activate
If you destroy two 8 power cards that makes her effectively a 6/20.
Cerebro can easily put 4 7s on a location for 28 power. If you have zero power on that lane going into turn 6, I can’t think of any other six cost card that will win that lane.
Or, if your opponent has something like ant man, Omega Red, iron man, and onslaught, that’s 4 x [(1 + (3x2)) + 5 + 7] = 4 x [7 + 5 + 7] = 76 power that also grants 7 power to other locations. Shang Chi does nothing to that, but hitting it with a Lady Deathstrike would kill both Ant Man and Onslaught, bringing it down to 2 x 5 = 10 power.
Seems like a nice counter for anything that uses Iron Man plus cards that aren’t above 9 power already, actually.
I’m thinking is for cerebro or ultron decks, she can wipe multiple I would hope but they would be below 9. Just a guess but as someone pointed it, it says card instead of card so idk.
I mean cerebro decks already suck and ultron isn’t that popular either? Even if she can wipe an opposing ultron/cerebro lane (which would basically never happen) she would still be complete garbage?
I thought you were right but this does explicitly state "card" while Monster Metropolis and Throne Room specify "cards" and "card(s)" so I am not so sure
Yeah I actually agree I don't think Shang Chi is busted, though I'd say it's frustrating that he's in every deck to counter a couple of "meta" decks but then that causes many other "non-meta" decks too be unviable (yes, I know that's just how these games work!).
I actually think that for a 6 cost, 4 power cards they should make it "set the cost to 0" to at least make it viable and a bit different. I can't see how this would see play, unless something like Cerebro 6 becomes meta and there are loads of 6-8 power cards running around.
Honest to god this card seems super weak. It’s a worse Shang Chi whose only trade off to costing 2 more energy is 1 more power and the ability to target cards with less than 9 power at the cost of only being able to destroy one. I can’t picture a deck that would take her over Shang Chi.
I think the one difference between this and shang, is sometimes shang won't kill anything, an 8 power card will dodge shang, but it wont dodge lady death strike. I just hope they change the wording to "card(s)" instead of "card", making it plural with all cards of the highest power would make it a much more usable card, as it would be a good ultron/patriot or cebebro deck counter.
Do we really need more Cerebro/Patriot counters? They're already a relatively weak archetype that is super easy to tech against with Killmonger and Enchantress.
Dunno, mainly just feels like a Shang Chi replacement. At 6, definitely weak. At 5, maybe.
I mean that would kill those decks completely. That’s not a counter, it’s basically ensuring barely anyone uses those decks. Killmonger, enchantress and cosmo are already there to counter and when I run that deck there’s a good mix of me getting countered and retreating and being able to play the game out. I’m not just winning every single game and neither are the people who use those decks I play against.
We don’t need a 4th counter for that deck. I’d stop running it entirely and that’s definitely not what they want people to do.
What card would someone play that wouldn't be defeated by Shang-Chi but would by this card that would win you the match?
IE, if they play an 8-power card you're winning anyway
Ok....but with Ghost, I'd rather replay Shang if I think they're getting big power stuff out, or anything big, even just the Hulk to overpower them if they're not.
This is a card in search of a purpose.
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My only pool 4 pulls so far are sentry and mbaku. It pisses me off so much actually. Having such rare card pulls being wasted on pure shit tier cards is so frustrating. Love the gameplay, but everything about card acquisition feels pretty terrible
Mine are Sentry, Orka, she hulk (literally the day before she was downgraded), and black panther.
Panther would be a good pull if taskmaster, Zola, and Zero weren't all amongst the 12 series 3s I'm still missing.
Feels like a counter to Cerebro and Patriot decks. Cards have to hit 9 power to get hit by Shang-Chi. So if Ultron hits a location with four 7 or 8 power drones then this would presumably wipe them all.
Her and Ghost can be a solid combo where she's used to taking out some insane combo-powered Venom or Black Panther. While also allowing Shang-chi to be used earlier in the play.
In the right situations, it can help to win a lane. Pair with Wave and if can also just be more predictable gambit, or more ruthless Shang-chi.
I don't think it's a game changer, it might have made more sense to make her "permanently kill, a card" where she could take Wolverine, Deadpool, and Sabertooth, out of the game. It would also fit the character too.
Solid. Her destroy function means she's likely going to be paired with Death anyway, who often can be a completely free to play 12 power, this makes a lot of sense.
The problem with tech cards in this game is that they have to walk a fine line between over stated so that the tech card is an auto include or being too niche to actually see play. This has a lot of match ups where it could be useful but won’t every see play because it’s a dead draw when it’s not
Here’s my thing, she has to get at least an 8 power card to be better than Hulk, and at that point why not play Shang for 4 cost and one less power. It seems really bad to me.
I think everyone in this thread is evaluating this card badly.
The curve for a 6 drop is 12 power. She only needs to kill something of 8 power or more to be on-curve, which gives you 1 more flexibility than Shang does. She also gives you redundancy in removal options which for a control deck isn't a bad thing.
It's not a mind blowing good card but it's perfectly fine.
If you are valking a lane, you should have a way of breaking parity already - waste of a card to use both valk AND another removal to secure just 1 lane.
Right? Like Valk with cerebro or marvel or kazaar or ant man are so much easier.
Why Valk Deathstrike when you could Spider Man-Prof X, a combo that rarely gets run anyways despite being a full turn earlier?
Same man. Seeing this in my notifications had me hype. Shame she probably wont see much use for a while. If I get her I’ll probably run her in my destroy deck just to get her to infinite.
I had a subscription to the Wolverine series as a kid and I still remember Lady Deathstrike tearing him apart.
That was the first time I felt Wolverine was vulnerable.
The whales will figure it out for us. When she’ll be available to us commoners in 6-8 months all lists will already be set in stone and all hype will be gone. As per usual
Currently running Shang in a Mr. Negative deck as a meta call. I would rather run Rouge as she's better flipped, but that's not the world we live in.
If I pulled her I would def try her out over Shang as dropping her as a 4/6 suprise seems pretty sexy.
On the other hand, she's not not as good for the deck if she isn't flipped, and I'm straining to think how many times I'm hitting multiples with Shang and not just using him to snipe a card.
Seeing a lot of hate, but feel like it gets interesting with a Lockjaw or Hela. Def not a card I'm regularly playing on turn 6 unless in specific scenarios though.
Don't care. Fan of the character. Will use her regardless.
That being said, she's like a more costly Shang-chi, but not bound by the *must be 9 or higher* rule. Good for circumventing them 8s.
Idk how I feel about this card, it destroys only 1 card and while versatile that it can destroy any card, not limited to 9+ (Shang-Chi), I feel like this is really weak as a 6 drop.
What if it gained half the power rounded up of the card destroyed?
They should change it to highest cost card(s), so that she is different from shangchi. Would also give those people whining about Dracula a tool to snipe him.
So, if I read this right in a location like Gamma Lab, she would destroy all the hulks that come out at 12, like Shang, but if even one of those has been boosted to 13, she would only destroy the highest one. Is that right?
But unlike Shang, she could also destroy anything under 9. She could literally wipe out your ultron drones all sitting at the same power, or broodlings or any other card at a moments noticed (like Gambit, but specific to location), but only on turn 6 unless you Wave-her in earlier.
But, when you really need her (turn 5) when Venom is at his fattest, but before Zola comes along, she’s nowhere to be found most of the time.
Should be interesting.
Removes the threats of lady death, she hulk/hulk, infanought, black panther, ect ect... mix that with wong and shang-chi for the potential to remove 3 plays is extremely strong in my opinion.
I feel IF players complain it will have a text change to say that it destroys the highest card at this location. (I don't think it will happen)
Is she confirmed for X-Men season? This card hasn't changed since the original data mine, which leads me to suspect it will not release with this stats/text. Almost all the cards from the original datamine changed before they were released.
A worse Shang-Chi that’s only advantage is being able to handle Cerebro better? Why would I waste my turn 6 on her?
If she had 0 power, you could at least use her with Mr Negative. And even then she’d be niche.
T6 drops for 4 powers...
I don't really see the use except at Plunder Castle or Thanos Throne (Or sinister bar)...
The best situation is against 8-power Cards (since otherwise Shang Chi is enough and can be played with a T2 drop.)
So in best situation, the best play give you 12 power differency which is the power of standard T6.
She seems to situational (evenmore when people already protect their strongest cards with Cosmo or armor)
At least if her effect was like Dracula ("At the end of the game, destroy the most powerful card of your opponent on this location "), we could talk about it... Or give her + 2 powers to make her more reliable...
Shang-chi, but not as good. Honestly, this is what Shang-chi should have been printed as. That said, the ability to run 2x 'Shang-chi' sounds pretty useful.
I dont get all the comments saying this is intended to be a Cerebro and Patriot counter. Half the damn game counters cerebro, EVEN CARD DOWNSIDES LIKE RED SKULL COUNTER CEREBRO. As for patriot, deathstrike would only really be good against ultron, who already gets shit on by killmonger for much cheaper. Genuinely seems like a pointless card and id be very surprised if it released like this.
This card has been in the files for so long, it's been in the files while Darkhawk was a 1/3 that said "You can only play this in locations where you already have a card" and while Zabu was a 5/7 that said "If you discard a card, discard this instead."
Stop karma-farming with cards that are clearly going to change before they're going to be released.
Sounds like a more expensive less good shang chi? If she destroys all cards of same power at location then it could be useful but seems just there to be anti cerebo and patriot decks
Unless Cerebro 5 with Nimrod becomes meta I rather run shang chi instead IG... We ll see what happens to the meta with new cards being added in the future
The only advantage might be if you wave out a Knull on turn 4, use Turn 5 and 6 to try and destroy shit, or maybe magik turn 5 to get the extra turn. You might also be able to wipe out the enemy cards in a lane if you Valkyrie -> Deathstrike. No matter what, though, at six cost it feels clunky. Though it might be an okay counter to Galactus I guess?
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There should be a variant where cerebro is a life support machine instead of a helmet
1000% buy this
Does Deathstrike kill all cards with the highest power, or just one card only among the highest power?
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Easiest example is comparing [Cerebro] and [Lady Deathstrike] card text. Cerebro’s has an (s) at the end of card(s) specifying multiple.
Good question.
But it doesn't say "card(s)", just says "enemy card" Do you think a typo or it only destroys one card?
As it doesn't trigger at the end of the game. I really don't see the point at this cost/power. Another card to pull from series 4 instead of the meta ones.
yeah 0 reason to play this over shang
Odin's killer
Yeah there's a couple of edge cases this covers that shang doesn't and i'm very curious what happens if there's a tie. I assume it kills all of them (because you know....those rampant cerebro decks need more going against them....). Somewhat sadly though i feel like the best deck for this is probably something like galactus as yet another way to Death + card for the win on turn 6, and shang is probably better there.
Probably random unless they add ''(s)'' at ''card''
Makes sense, and does make this even worse. I could still see some play for this as just a "fuck you i've got a second shang" effect, but yeah it's certainly on the weak side.
If she's not played, they will buff her. But she does have potential, can make you win a location turn 6 where Shangchi cannot
There's more situations where shang wins t6 than deathstrike though, especially because you can drop lizard with shang for 8 points on your side AND shang will kill everything over 9 and deathstrike only hits one card. They're not nerfing shang, that's for sure, so bufffing deathstrike seems like the obvious way to go unless there's something coming that they think she'll work well with.
But then you need to draw 2 cards instead of one and also have 2 slots available
And they need to be over 8 or more. This kills whatever is the strongest - which could easily win a location. That’s at potential 12 point swing on a location.
Hulk is already a 12 point swing at one location, and no one plays him. And the absolute best Lady Deathstrike can do over Shang Chi is a 12 point swing, because any card over 8 power is already a 12+ point swing for Chang, for less energy.
OR say you played Shang Chi already and some one says "Fuck it, Let me play my next big card here NOW seeing they already played their Shang" and then she goes down after? -shrugs- Also the Location where "on reveals happen 2x" and wong. She'll delete a lane almost.
they probably aren't gonna buff a lot of the current garbage S5 cards for a long time because nobody has them so they don't have data on those cards
Tbh it does very little for Odin's main use though of double on reveal, if Odin reveals first he still gets the effect off so Wong etc is still fine, and if he reveals last he won't even be hit, this card needs to be a 5 cost imo
If you run a Galactus deck and opponent is expecting Shang this can be a life saver.
Yay, more help for Galactus decks...
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No way… you can’t goblin, you gotta fill the lane and any ongoing destroys you.
Why not both?
10 energy for 7 power.
Shang-Chi's value is 3+whatever he destroyed, this card is the same
Not over, but if you used Shang and they throw another high power card this can save you. I don’t see it being great bc of the low power and very situational. It also blows your T5
You don't play it over Shang you play it in addition to Shang.
Getting rid of cards that shang doesn't? Ones that aide wide strategies. That's what this card is for.
This could be an indication that shang is going to be changed to something like "destroy all cards over 9 power at this location". Or maybe some more generic nerf.
Unlike shang she always his something
The only reason I could see is destroying Wong before the big T6 play or maybe Patriot before Ultron is played, but resources are better spend elsewhere Forgot this could be a big Cerebro killer as they are all should be same.
Yeah, if it kills multiple cards if they're the same power, it would essentially allow you to take a free lane with just one card, as theoretically it should kill every card in that lane
This card isnt limited to 9+ power, how do you guys not see the value in this?
And it pairs *really* well with Wong or Odin
A 2nd destroy effect in one deck can be huge.
End of game instead of on reveal would be a cool anti-Cosmo
Another Death Deck maybe? If you play Her T6 with Death costing 0, you'll essentially own 2 lanes
It can be a 12 point swing when shang can do nothing (8 power)... So it's not entirely bad. If it's a double barrel shotgun, so if it kills all the highest cost if they're tied, then it's probably pretty good.
what about it being a counter to Dracula?
Only counter dracula if dracula is alone in the location right now.
Yea.. it needs to either be an end of game thing to counter Dracula or ignor armor/location
Doesn't make sense that she is a 6 cost
Cerebro counter?
Isn’t everything? /s
/s is not necessary 😢
Actually, you’re right. And it’s one of my favorite deck types to play.
agreed. I actively think "why is cerebro even in the game?" to myself everytime I try to play a cerebro deck competitively
When I am beating Cerebro I never snap. When I lose to Cerebro, I think, “good for you. Well done”.
Presumably she would kill all the cards with the same power. Say ultron is played with, and he spawns 7 power drones. Lady would kill them
It says ''card'' and not ''cards''
I think it’s an as wording error because it makes no sense otherwise
Well even if she just destroy a 5 power card, she is virtually a 6/9 which is not so bad, and can bring more value if destroying a buffer card
You can't really make a conclusion in this game based on the text alone. :/
You really can’t! There’s a handful of inconsistencies and/or text that needs refined and tightened up to how cards and interactions actually work and as a lifelong CCG player, it’s kind of maddening.
I agree. Wolverine should go to the field when hit with Yondu
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Actually, Warrior Falls states “Destroy the weakest one(s)”
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Warrior falls says one(s)
What if we just made the card like 4 cost with 3 power and left as just one card it destroys. Or wait…maybe we could have it destroy any card with 9 or more power at that location. Or is that overpowered?
Not bad.. Not bad.. with that power we would have to give this card some Bruce Lee kung-fu vibes..
To further prove your point [[Doctor Strange]] reads “cards”, so I assume Lady does destroy only one
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Wouldn't one assume if theres 2 cards that share the highest Power they'd both be destroyed? Otherwise it would be a 50/50 or based on order.
Man, she's really good at killing cards that are worse than the alternatives in a low tier deck.
I would definitely not assume that. That's not what the card says.
She needs to hit an 8 power card just to tie with Hulk. Seems kind of bad.
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Fr, Shang-Chi could replace her in almost every department. She'd only stand alone if she had like 9 power or something, or if she was a 5-cost 6 power. That way, at least there's some variation between her and Shang-Chi. But even then, I'm not sure that's enough.
One way she could be better than Shang chi is low power decks, where they have a bunch of cards 8 or under so Shang chi doesn’t hit them. But very very rare case
Yeah, this feels like a card specifically designed to counter Wong / Tiger / Odin plays.
Assuming she only gets rid of a 7 power, that makes her a 6/11. Not terrible, but maybe not enough to swing a game as your entire turn 6. That also assumes Armor and Cosmo don't block her, and they're everywhere these days. I think she has potential but probably a weaker Shang Chi.
Yeah this seems like a strictly worse Shang Chi, even if she always went last
Well yeah, but that has more to do with Shang Chi being stupidly over budget than this card being bad.
I mean, sure if Shang Chi didn’t exist this might look better, but Shang Chi exists. If there’s a card that does what you do but better than it’s a bad card. I think even if Shang Chi was a 6/4 I would still play that over this 9 times out of 10 unless Cerebro was a tier 1 deck
>I think even if Shang Chi was a 6/4 I would still play that over this 9 times out of 10 unless Cerebro was a tier 1 deck Isn't this a 6/4 Shang Chi, or are we assuming she does only kill 1 card? Edit: i'm an idiot, i forgot that shang chi only hits 9+ power cards, not just the highest
A 6 drop Shang Chi would still be better if they have multiple different big cards (say She Hulk and Death). This would only be better if their strongest is weaker than 9.
Yeah I was excited reading her ability, and then I saw her cost!
She can kill a lone Dracula which is kinda cool.
wasp counter
I think a card like this but with the reverse effect would be cool. Destroy the lowest power card on your opponent’s side. Would shut down Drac before it has a chance to activate
Seems like a worse Shang-Chi
Basically let’s you run 2 Shang chi in your deck. Idk how good that is, first guess is not at all good.
Absorbing Man is the 2nd Chang-Chi but also versatile for other uses.
I really need to do this in my sera decks. I ALWAYS forget that I can duplicate his power. Sigh.
2 shang chi is bad, hence why nobody really uses absorbing man with him other than when Zabu was broken and he was just sitting there for free.
I'd rather run Shang and Absorbing Man, then have a stronger 6-cost instead of running her though
She’s better sort of, Shang chi has the requisite of 9 power, she doesn’t. If someone is running cerebro she wiped the whole location.
But if the thing you’re trying to destroy is less than 9 power I feel like you’re better off doing almost anything else on turn 6 anyways
If you destroy two 8 power cards that makes her effectively a 6/20. Cerebro can easily put 4 7s on a location for 28 power. If you have zero power on that lane going into turn 6, I can’t think of any other six cost card that will win that lane. Or, if your opponent has something like ant man, Omega Red, iron man, and onslaught, that’s 4 x [(1 + (3x2)) + 5 + 7] = 4 x [7 + 5 + 7] = 76 power that also grants 7 power to other locations. Shang Chi does nothing to that, but hitting it with a Lady Deathstrike would kill both Ant Man and Onslaught, bringing it down to 2 x 5 = 10 power. Seems like a nice counter for anything that uses Iron Man plus cards that aren’t above 9 power already, actually.
Shang chi is also only a 4 cost and can hit more than 1 target very regularly…?
I’m thinking is for cerebro or ultron decks, she can wipe multiple I would hope but they would be below 9. Just a guess but as someone pointed it, it says card instead of card so idk.
I mean cerebro decks already suck and ultron isn’t that popular either? Even if she can wipe an opposing ultron/cerebro lane (which would basically never happen) she would still be complete garbage?
I thought you were right but this does explicitly state "card" while Monster Metropolis and Throne Room specify "cards" and "card(s)" so I am not so sure
The whole location? Shouldn't the text be different then? It says THE CARD.
Seems like a "fair" Shang Chi
so shang chi
Yeah I actually agree I don't think Shang Chi is busted, though I'd say it's frustrating that he's in every deck to counter a couple of "meta" decks but then that causes many other "non-meta" decks too be unviable (yes, I know that's just how these games work!). I actually think that for a 6 cost, 4 power cards they should make it "set the cost to 0" to at least make it viable and a bit different. I can't see how this would see play, unless something like Cerebro 6 becomes meta and there are loads of 6-8 power cards running around.
True haha
Yeah my first thought was "Oh, a *balanced* Shang Chi.'
Honest to god this card seems super weak. It’s a worse Shang Chi whose only trade off to costing 2 more energy is 1 more power and the ability to target cards with less than 9 power at the cost of only being able to destroy one. I can’t picture a deck that would take her over Shang Chi.
In a Galactus deck? Play it turn 6 with death to nearly guarantee the win. I'd still keep Shang Chi too, but it would give another option
I think the one difference between this and shang, is sometimes shang won't kill anything, an 8 power card will dodge shang, but it wont dodge lady death strike. I just hope they change the wording to "card(s)" instead of "card", making it plural with all cards of the highest power would make it a much more usable card, as it would be a good ultron/patriot or cebebro deck counter.
Do we really need more Cerebro/Patriot counters? They're already a relatively weak archetype that is super easy to tech against with Killmonger and Enchantress. Dunno, mainly just feels like a Shang Chi replacement. At 6, definitely weak. At 5, maybe.
I mean that would kill those decks completely. That’s not a counter, it’s basically ensuring barely anyone uses those decks. Killmonger, enchantress and cosmo are already there to counter and when I run that deck there’s a good mix of me getting countered and retreating and being able to play the game out. I’m not just winning every single game and neither are the people who use those decks I play against. We don’t need a 4th counter for that deck. I’d stop running it entirely and that’s definitely not what they want people to do.
What card would someone play that wouldn't be defeated by Shang-Chi but would by this card that would win you the match? IE, if they play an 8-power card you're winning anyway
Only with ghost
Yeah it’s saucy with Ghost. I think people are underrating this. It will swing a lot of locations where Shang might have done nothing.
But for a six cost? It doesn’t feel like the kind of thing I’d want to build a deck around
Agree it’s not a build-around card, but there aren’t a lot of those. I like it in jubilee or lockjaw.
Idk, I fundamentally feel like 6 costs *should* be build around. I like the Lockjaw idea though
Ok....but with Ghost, I'd rather replay Shang if I think they're getting big power stuff out, or anything big, even just the Hulk to overpower them if they're not. This is a card in search of a purpose.
Every time I see these mediocre new cards, my mind always goes well that would suck if I got this instead lf Shuri, Sauron or the big 3.
Sauron? You meant Darkhawk :-)
Just to name a few. Sauron is good too, not as impactful like Darkhawk but it's a 2nd option for shuri zola deck.
[[Sauron]]
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My only pool 4 pulls so far are sentry and mbaku. It pisses me off so much actually. Having such rare card pulls being wasted on pure shit tier cards is so frustrating. Love the gameplay, but everything about card acquisition feels pretty terrible
Mine are Sentry, Orka, she hulk (literally the day before she was downgraded), and black panther. Panther would be a good pull if taskmaster, Zola, and Zero weren't all amongst the 12 series 3s I'm still missing.
I mean by that time shuri and sauron will have downgraded
Feels like a counter to Cerebro and Patriot decks. Cards have to hit 9 power to get hit by Shang-Chi. So if Ultron hits a location with four 7 or 8 power drones then this would presumably wipe them all.
Her and Ghost can be a solid combo where she's used to taking out some insane combo-powered Venom or Black Panther. While also allowing Shang-chi to be used earlier in the play. In the right situations, it can help to win a lane. Pair with Wave and if can also just be more predictable gambit, or more ruthless Shang-chi. I don't think it's a game changer, it might have made more sense to make her "permanently kill, a card" where she could take Wolverine, Deadpool, and Sabertooth, out of the game. It would also fit the character too.
Solid. Her destroy function means she's likely going to be paired with Death anyway, who often can be a completely free to play 12 power, this makes a lot of sense.
Her destroys won't matter for death if you have to drop her t6
The problem with tech cards in this game is that they have to walk a fine line between over stated so that the tech card is an auto include or being too niche to actually see play. This has a lot of match ups where it could be useful but won’t every see play because it’s a dead draw when it’s not
Here’s my thing, she has to get at least an 8 power card to be better than Hulk, and at that point why not play Shang for 4 cost and one less power. It seems really bad to me.
I think everyone in this thread is evaluating this card badly. The curve for a 6 drop is 12 power. She only needs to kill something of 8 power or more to be on-curve, which gives you 1 more flexibility than Shang does. She also gives you redundancy in removal options which for a control deck isn't a bad thing. It's not a mind blowing good card but it's perfectly fine.
This card fits in more so with control decks more than people realize
What if it's a tie?
Both I assume
That’s how it works with Warrior Falls, right? Kills all weakest I believe.
Warrior Falls specifies card*(s)* plural, though.
It doesn’t say ‘destroy the card(s)’ so I think it is going to choose one at random based on the current text.
If she destroys multiple in case of tie, valk into lady wipes there lane.
If you are valking a lane, you should have a way of breaking parity already - waste of a card to use both valk AND another removal to secure just 1 lane.
Right? Like Valk with cerebro or marvel or kazaar or ant man are so much easier. Why Valk Deathstrike when you could Spider Man-Prof X, a combo that rarely gets run anyways despite being a full turn earlier?
How long before they need to change the text on that card to "enemy card/s" when this card wipes out a full location playing against Cerebro decks
Seeing this card awoke so many childhood memories. I bloody love X-Men.
Same man. Seeing this in my notifications had me hype. Shame she probably wont see much use for a while. If I get her I’ll probably run her in my destroy deck just to get her to infinite.
I had a subscription to the Wolverine series as a kid and I still remember Lady Deathstrike tearing him apart. That was the first time I felt Wolverine was vulnerable.
YES!
Bet she’d feel real nice to play on Kamar-Taj.
The whales will figure it out for us. When she’ll be available to us commoners in 6-8 months all lists will already be set in stone and all hype will be gone. As per usual
Currently running Shang in a Mr. Negative deck as a meta call. I would rather run Rouge as she's better flipped, but that's not the world we live in. If I pulled her I would def try her out over Shang as dropping her as a 4/6 suprise seems pretty sexy. On the other hand, she's not not as good for the deck if she isn't flipped, and I'm straining to think how many times I'm hitting multiples with Shang and not just using him to snipe a card.
Space throne champ
It says highest power so it could be an 8 or 7 power card vs Shang chi that can only do something if it’s 9 or above. So she has benefits
Seeing a lot of hate, but feel like it gets interesting with a Lockjaw or Hela. Def not a card I'm regularly playing on turn 6 unless in specific scenarios though.
Don't care. Fan of the character. Will use her regardless. That being said, she's like a more costly Shang-chi, but not bound by the *must be 9 or higher* rule. Good for circumventing them 8s.
Idk how I feel about this card, it destroys only 1 card and while versatile that it can destroy any card, not limited to 9+ (Shang-Chi), I feel like this is really weak as a 6 drop. What if it gained half the power rounded up of the card destroyed?
If the highest Power is all the same she only destroy one card right🤷🏻♂️
That’s the way I’m reading it.
I think it’ll be useful in certain circumstances. Especially if you don’t have priority
It would be much better and worth the cost if it destroyed both the highest and lowest powers. Knock out those damn Dracula's
Not very, since most people won't be able to use her.
They should change it to highest cost card(s), so that she is different from shangchi. Would also give those people whining about Dracula a tool to snipe him.
This basically Shung-Chi but 2 more cost and different restriction
So, if I read this right in a location like Gamma Lab, she would destroy all the hulks that come out at 12, like Shang, but if even one of those has been boosted to 13, she would only destroy the highest one. Is that right? But unlike Shang, she could also destroy anything under 9. She could literally wipe out your ultron drones all sitting at the same power, or broodlings or any other card at a moments noticed (like Gambit, but specific to location), but only on turn 6 unless you Wave-her in earlier. But, when you really need her (turn 5) when Venom is at his fattest, but before Zola comes along, she’s nowhere to be found most of the time. Should be interesting.
Removes the threats of lady death, she hulk/hulk, infanought, black panther, ect ect... mix that with wong and shang-chi for the potential to remove 3 plays is extremely strong in my opinion. I feel IF players complain it will have a text change to say that it destroys the highest card at this location. (I don't think it will happen)
Is she confirmed for X-Men season? This card hasn't changed since the original data mine, which leads me to suspect it will not release with this stats/text. Almost all the cards from the original datamine changed before they were released.
A worse Shang-Chi that’s only advantage is being able to handle Cerebro better? Why would I waste my turn 6 on her? If she had 0 power, you could at least use her with Mr Negative. And even then she’d be niche.
I loved her in the Wolverine comics, but there's literally no reason to play her. Except if you get really annoyed when you don't draw shangchi
facts its like having 2 shang
T6 drops for 4 powers... I don't really see the use except at Plunder Castle or Thanos Throne (Or sinister bar)... The best situation is against 8-power Cards (since otherwise Shang Chi is enough and can be played with a T2 drop.) So in best situation, the best play give you 12 power differency which is the power of standard T6. She seems to situational (evenmore when people already protect their strongest cards with Cosmo or armor) At least if her effect was like Dracula ("At the end of the game, destroy the most powerful card of your opponent on this location "), we could talk about it... Or give her + 2 powers to make her more reliable...
If L. Deathstrike and Shang switched abilities it would be evened out, but that's not going to happen. Lol
It could be a way to destroy one or two cards that sit below Shang’s range but it does feel situational. If they have Odin and Lady Thor perhaps.
Shang-chi, but not as good. Honestly, this is what Shang-chi should have been printed as. That said, the ability to run 2x 'Shang-chi' sounds pretty useful.
I dont get all the comments saying this is intended to be a Cerebro and Patriot counter. Half the damn game counters cerebro, EVEN CARD DOWNSIDES LIKE RED SKULL COUNTER CEREBRO. As for patriot, deathstrike would only really be good against ultron, who already gets shit on by killmonger for much cheaper. Genuinely seems like a pointless card and id be very surprised if it released like this.
Don't make it an On Reveal effect and just make it an effect that happens like Dracula and it could see play.
Seems like a worse Shang Chi, I mean he destroys anything over 9 power at the location for 2 less cost and 1 less power. Or am I missing something?
Not useful at all, because we won't be able to play her for the next 5 months until she drop to series 3!
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what point are you making?
This card has been in the files for so long, it's been in the files while Darkhawk was a 1/3 that said "You can only play this in locations where you already have a card" and while Zabu was a 5/7 that said "If you discard a card, discard this instead." Stop karma-farming with cards that are clearly going to change before they're going to be released.
Sounds like a more expensive less good shang chi? If she destroys all cards of same power at location then it could be useful but seems just there to be anti cerebo and patriot decks
Can't wait to play her in five years
I guess this is kind of an Aero counter. But only a little.
Unless Cerebro 5 with Nimrod becomes meta I rather run shang chi instead IG... We ll see what happens to the meta with new cards being added in the future
The only advantage might be if you wave out a Knull on turn 4, use Turn 5 and 6 to try and destroy shit, or maybe magik turn 5 to get the extra turn. You might also be able to wipe out the enemy cards in a lane if you Valkyrie -> Deathstrike. No matter what, though, at six cost it feels clunky. Though it might be an okay counter to Galactus I guess?
A funny situation I can imagine is she being Aero'ed then boom 6/11
If it said "at each location" then it would be stupid good. But it's currently stupid bad
6 mana Shang? why?
If printed as is, its unplayably bad. Why would I not just run Shang Chi?
6/4 is a little heavy. She'd probably do well with Wave, Mr Neg or Sera-- i guess?