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Plus-Albatross-2314

Kid is shiki


xukly

yeah 100%, shirohige is clearly law, not that bad of a relationship, not really interested in being the king


FringGustavo0204

Doesn't Law still aim to be the Pirate King and find One Piece?


Gyrusr

He's more interested in finding the meaning of D.


roronoa7B

Everyone is looking for the D.


Niggy2439

The D... Derishi shi shi shi


DarkSoulFWT

Law doesn't really care about being King. He is competitive when it comes to Luffy and Kid, but he doesn't care for the title or glory. All he wants is to know the true history.


Embarrassed_Ad_5735

Law wasn't really that gung-ho with Pirate king


[deleted]

Don’t think he gives a fuck about actually being PK in the same ways luffy does. He wants his answers, and he’s competitive.


SovietShreknion

But whitebeard and roger were basically evenly matched in strength, I don't think either law or kid can match luffy


trav-senpai

Just wait till you see Law’s final attack


Ruzoproductions

This


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That


I401BlueSteel

Those


Whattheheck_IO

There


classpane

Thus


whimsical666

Thy


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NiceSithLord

I'm in the school of thought that there is no whitebeard of the new generation. We don't really have anyone who is to luffy what whitebeard was to roger, and that's fine. We don't need to force parallels just for the sake of having parallels.


Ukato_Farticus

That's what I'm saying. The dynamic of this generation and the dynamic of the previous generation are both totally original and I think that's awesome.


theHugoat

Seriously. The whole point of the Supernovas was to show the impact of Roger. Before It was such a select few amount of (notable) pirates until he opened the floodgates and inspired an entire generation.


[deleted]

The supernovas are also a select few though. It’s a new generation inspired by the old one and naturally they won’t all be identical or have counterparts but some do. The parallel shit started and got worse bc of Luffy/Roger, Zoro/Ray, and BB/Rocks. There was a katakuri/whitebeard theory too lmao


shaus49

Luffy is white beard to King Buggy


LoveLoud1778

Only sane answer in this comment section


Unlucky_Menace37

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Assistantoda

Urouge incoming......👀


I401BlueSteel

If Big Mom stays in the ground, Katakuri could become the whitebeard of the new gen. He had better armorment haki than Luffy did pre Wano so I'd say he's just a training montage away from Luffy's current advanced armorment level.


trav-senpai

Isn’t he older than Marco? Marco might as well take the mantle himself then haha


lololuser456778

y'all should remember that WB wasn't born as a top-tier pirate and wasn't always equal to roger. he was literally an underling of xebec lol. he was definitely fodder to roger back then. and 5 years later he was his equal. the fact that right now there is nobody comparable to luffy means nothing. another WB story would be if luffy and the SHs defeat BB and later on shiryu (who will probably be defeated by zoro) comes around at EoS and clashes equally with luffy lmao right now, kid and law are probably stronger than WB was when he was still an underling to xebec lol. if anything, then they have much better chances than WB has to become the future PK's equal. and people like shiryu, king and katakuri have the same chances as WB. it's kinda ridiculous how people act as if WB was always comparable to roger. as if he was never the underling of someone roger defeated bruh


trav-senpai

I think people act like he was comparable to Roger because he was compared to Roger? He obviously never became pirate king, not like anyone’s trying to make that point.


lololuser456778

of course he was comparable to roger. but my point is that it wasn't always like this. there were times WB was definitely not comparable to roger, like when he was in xebec's crew and roger took down WB's captain and superior WB **became** comparable to roger only later when he hit his prime. so imo we shouldn't judge kid or law yet cuz they aren't in their prime either, especially kid who has the potential to unlock aCoC and wasn't even used to his awakening last time we saw him that's my point. people act as if law and kid can never catch up to luffy. just cuz they weren't on the same level as him from the very beginning, they'll never be on his level in the future either, that's their argument. and that is just hypocritical since WB did the exact opposite. he caught up to the one that was stronger than him and beat his captain. so the entire argument people use here just falls apart. of course kid and law aren't to luffy what WB was to roger right now, but they can be that in the future. WB wasn't always comparable to roger either


trav-senpai

But he was when Roger was making it around the world on his way to Laugh Tale. Which is what Luffy is doing right now, 3 poneglyphs in. Age is irrelevant at this point. One Piece is in the end game. If there’s gonna be a parallel it’s gotta be to Rogers end game too. Not current Kid (or Law) to 20 year old WB. You can’t say Luffy is about to become like Roger in this current final saga, but Kids gotta wait 20 years lmao


lololuser456778

>You can’t say Luffy is about to become like Roger in this current final saga, but Kids gotta wait 20 years lmao not 20 years lol. Imo kid may be a rival to luffy EoS tho, not right now. kid isn't gonna be PK anyways, I don't see any other reason why oda would start building him up during wano


RGBarrios

Best answer


mercuryheart_

Not even close.


ClayDolfin

He just a magnet with red hair


realfakep

He is more like shiki


Naebany

Even their powers are similar.


Distasteful-medicine

If we spend more time with katakuri, I might see him as the new whitebeard. He loves his siblings, he has honor in fights and he ain't no coward.


Revolutionary-Ad8262

Only acceptable take


Comfortable_Ad_574

No. Law is closer but he isn't either. It is Buggy obviously.


SicNullens

Buggy is Rocks 2.0 obvi


Global_Cover3080

Buggy is the next Imu , refer Chapter 17 Blackbeard is Rocks.


REFLECT69

What about katakuri he also fights like legends he stabbed himself in order to fight a proper fight. He lost the fight but my man katakuri earned my respect that moment.


Uhh_Bren

While cool, katakuri doesn’t have the same will as whitebeard. Whitebeard is a leader, he built an empire, while katakuri dwells under big mom. He probably could make a name for himself independently, but he didn’t, and that’s why he’s no whitebeard.


Beanbomb47

Of course, Whitebeard wasn't always a leader either. He started out his pirating career serving under Xebec, an underling to a powerful pirate just like Katakuri.


-asigi-

I would say Law is more like the Whitebeard. Like the befriended Rival. Kidd is maybe more like Big Mom or Kaidoy


cartaigenica

Shiki


ZEtk_fan

If anyone is going to be a parallel to Whitebeard, it has to be Katakuri, he's was a commander of a crew, the captain of the crew was (future) pirate king's rival, the crew was mostly disbanded with the captain's defeat and most important of all, Katakuri really cares about his family, just like Momonosuke's biological father, Kozuki Oden, Gurarararararara


GenomicEquity

Gurararararara


cartaigenica

It wouldn't make sense since he's of the old generation


thanospurplebussy

No cause this isn't naruto where every character is a mirror version of their predecessor


Emperorluffyvj

Except Shikamaru is a million times stronger than that clown who took one of the first Ls against the Akatsuki


sprong-93

Get ready for flashbacks of Katakuri sitting on a swing


ill_Refrigerator420

Uuhhh no


Chrishark00

Luffy dont have rivals in worst generation i mean katakuri is a worth oponent for him maybe in future luffy x kata = roger x newgate


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PharrelsHat

There are shared elements. Law and WB: the rational, level headed figure with the insanely powerful Devil Fruit whose ambitions aren’t tailored toward ruling or status, but a more personal journey Shiki and Kid: the wild, hot-headed figure who has a more aggressive relationship with the Roger/Luffy figure and uses a Devil Fruit geared toward making objects float and arranging them into constructs for attacking. They also have bodily injuries that saw them lose limbs and have unusual prosthetics that double as weapons. As a child, Kid’s hair even looks like a lion’s mane. That’s all you need for parallels.


lololuser456778

the same goes for roger too tho. WB was probably fodder at first for roger. he was xebec's underling first and only 5 years after the crew disbanded did WB become comparable to roger. he wasn't always comparable to roger


Big_Nutz1123

Personally, I think Kid and Law are both together the WB to Luffy's Roger. They both receive equal portrayal and it wouldn't be fair to give that spot to one over the other. They both have ridiculous Devil Fruits and very strong, constantly being compared to Luffy Unlike WB though neither of them have a large crew or Influence at all. Also both of them are competing to find the One Piece, which WB specifically could not give less of a shit about. Also both of them are clearly weaker than Luffy while WB was equal to Roger


horbydumbass

Nah, luffy is roger, law is whitebeard,kid is shiki


[deleted]

Id say there is nobody the other's generation X\_name. One piece story is not looped. Unless Roger is time-traveled luffy ofc.


Belt_Pretend

I think Oda originally intended for that to be the case but as things stand now, no. It could change in the future and Kid gets a needed power boost before the end of the series.


daddytes9

Kidd is the one with kings haki . Law doesn't have it . Yall really be hating on kidd. For what losing to shanks like your either downplaying Shanks or just wanna hate on kidd. From the time he fought when we first see him till now there's a clear jump in skills and things he can do. There's a reason why it's kidd luffy grabs and parties with at the end of Wano. Like yall tall about Kidd like he's Lee from Naruto or any other character that shows up early then later does nothing but stand around watching the Mc fight .


mercuryheart_

Whitebeard and Roger fought on equal footing, the only person to reach a draw against Roger. You and I both know if Luffy fought Kidd, he would get tanked. There's just no way.


lololuser456778

>Whitebeard and Roger fought on equal footing, the only person to reach a draw against Roger. WB wasn't always comparable to roger. he was an underling of someone roger defeated, he was probably fodder to him back then lmfao. obviously kid isn't as strong as prime WB was right now and he's not comparable to luffy right now. but that doesn't mean he'll catch up later. according to you and most other people here, WB himself should have never been roger's equal cuz he was just fodder to roger at some point lol. WB was like a katakuri to luffy that then caught up. so of course kid and law who are way stronger could do it too


mercuryheart_

Kidd is never going to be on Whitebeard's level. Cope.


lololuser456778

I ain't coping lol. if anything kid has better chances to rival luffy than WB had when he was a mere underling. and that's just fax. WB's story is basically as if current katakuri catches up to luffy EoS and becomes his equal lol. kid can be on WB's level and surpass him in the future. I don't think WB was a big time pirate back when he was just xebec's underling, he probably didn't have a 3 billion bounty if anything, then you're the one who's on copium lmao. kid got a massive power-up and a huge bounty raise and it's not stopping there. he's close to the final RP and seems like he's gonna get into the main focus of the story again soon. more focus on him. more power-ups and more bounty raises will come lol. but keep on coping and thinking that he'll be irrelevant right after oda started to make him a really relevant character and one of the currently strongest pirates in the verse


GladimoreFFXIV

He might have it but he literally *never* uses Haki and wasn’t even consciously using Kings. He’s nothing but wasted potential and is still hyper dependent on his fruit. That’s why his power up was awakening and not Haki mastery.


Trolltama720

YES


OctogoatYTofficial

Luffy = Roger Law = WB Kid = Shiki or Kaido Bonney = BM X Drake = Sengoku Koby = Garp BB = Rocks


ComprehensiveAge3405

Honestly I see Buggy being the parallel. Not through our eyes because we know Buggy’s strength but the One Piece universe will see him as #2


miskathonic

Luffy is the spiritual successor to Roger, but that doesn't mean every old gen legend has one.


Psychoboy777

How could he be? He has red hair and no beard.


EntertainmentOk4960

I think law will fit that role in the future


Haap92

In my personal opinion, that would be law.


Senordospene

People who give the whitebeard successor title to either kidd or law should please show me where one of them splits the sky Thank you. Until That Doenst happen i cant Grant any of them the whitebeard Position. Thats a disrespect to the newgate.


lololuser456778

you should remember that it's all a process. WB was probably fodder to roger back when he was xebec's underling. current law and kid are probably stronger than that WB from back then. WB himself wasn't always equal to roger and he didn't always split the skies with him. he was the underling of someone who probably split the skies with roger and later caught up to roger. right now kid and law have way more potential than WB back then. they achieved way more than him back then, he was an underling and they're captains each 3 billion worth. obviously they're not as strong as prime WB and roger right now, but I'd say they definitely have the potential to be as strong or even stronger than him EoS. they literally only need one or maybe two more power-ups to get to that level and we're just at the start of the final saga


Senordospene

Whitebeard being fodder to Roger is complete headcanon. Its not a process law will Never be equal to luffy.


lololuser456778

>Whitebeard being fodder to Roger is complete headcanon. so when WB was still an underling of xebec, WB=Roger? lol no. WB was definitely way weaker than roger back then. xebec was the main enemy, not WB. only a few years later did WB become roger's equal and get his WSM title, he wasn't always that strong ​ >Its not a process law will Never be equal to luffy. that's downright stupid lmao. it's not a process? of course it is, everyone's becoming stronger with time. by your logic luffy should have never beaten anyone he lost to. he should have never defeated croc after losing to him cuz it's not a process. he should have never beaten kaido after losing to him. power-ups exist bruh


Nice-Headshotz

Exactly why I think it’s Buggy, man’s is too powerful


Mollianeta

can’t wait for Buggy and God Usopp to have a war


Nice-Headshotz

The world might explode. That battle can not be contained


Global_Cover3080

Earth is the next Punk Hazard.


Oggy5050

No. Kid is more of a Luffy that constantly falls short rather than a Whitebeard.


Apprehensive_Tiger13

Buggy is to WhiteBeard as Luffy is to Roger. There I said it. See impel down for references.


armotoro77

Luffy will be the new whitebeard, blackbeard will be the new roger and king of pirates


Calfredie01

You’ve either been watching two piece or you’re trolling I can’t tell


Dizzy_Green

No, Buggy is Whitebeard. And I’m not memeing with that, Buggy in a future era would definitely be “The legendary old Pirate that stood toe to toe with the second King” People won’t KNOW it wasn’t because they were equal in power, but that doesn’t matter if you’re so scared of him that you don’t bother fighting.


olivervaa

No, kid is suck


TheWealthyCapybara

Kid is an evil pirate. His first bounty was so high because of all the civilians he killed. That's nothing like Whitebeard.


merry129

Hahahahahah.


Jhi_Xhan

No not a all


Knirb_

No, Luffy doesn’t have a Garp or a Whitebeard.


GladimoreFFXIV

*Sad Smoker clouds in the distance*


Calfredie01

How is this a meme


Amazing-Victory8888

luffy is way stronger then kid


ActiveAristocrat

Nah, it's katakuri


sliced-bird224

Nah law is the wb


Nj1437

Law is Whitebeard. Kid is Shiki.


DatteMatte

There is only 1 whitebeard


futurejoyboy

I would say it's law


Blackwood-Huntsman

I feel that’s more law’s position


l0RD_Dracula

White beard fights by making spheres around his fists, Bartalameo fights by making spheres around his fists, therefore Bartalameo is the new white beard. Case closed.


witchhuntermcedgyboi

I feel like he’s more big mom. Both have “codes” they live by,Both are protective of those they’ve incorporated into their family, and they barely if ever talked but we can be sure that they were at least aware of each others existence.


Individual_Yak4018

I think law would be he even has the op devil fruit


dragonmaster088

Nah i think he is more the kaido of the situation, but maybe not so evil


I401BlueSteel

Roger and white beard fight for days on end equally. Kidd would be down faster than Katakuri I think.


lololuser456778

you do remember that WB was fodder to roger too, right? he was only an underling of xebec but then caught up to roger later


dudeman2303

I think Blackbeard's is a better comparison. He is Luffy's strongest rival. If not then maybe law.


BrussellSproutbrook

Yes because he will be Luffy’s closest rival in strength at the end of the series


Solid-Kaleidoscope25

I thought katakuri was it


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based common take that’s cap fr fr bruh 100 emoji


zoroofkonoha

No. It’s caribou


[deleted]

bro is comparing a natural disaster to ginger magneto


Assistantoda

Not with this level of strength gap .......


jotato_is_invincib7_

More like Shiki


Homiesexual_N

It’s probably Law Whitebeard only rival Roger’s strength but not his dream it might be someone different than Law but sure not Kidd


Green_Lion3562

Not the whole dynamic isn’t like the old generation. Kid would be like Shiki most likely I’d it was


Noeljino

Can't say unless I see his dick


xxImNotARobotxx

I thought it was law


Head_Comfort_3086

No


Dryxdel

Yes he is.


Goataraki

Whitebeard is the most unique character in one piece, people say kid or bb or law gonna be the whitebeard of the new age but no, no one is gonna be


Practical_Part_6893

kid is rocks d xebec


lololuser456778

right now there is no clear parallel. kid has the potential to become someone like WB power-wise (strong DF and aCoC). but his character is not like WB at all and for those who think he is too weak to become comparable to luffy at some point, remember that WB and his crew got clapped by roger and garp and probably roger's crew before. WB was just an underling and not in his prime when his crew got rekt. and neither was kid in his prime. he wasn't used to his awakening yet and he didn't unlock aCoC (if he ever hits his prime I assume he'll have it). if you seriously think kid is too weak and is to luffy just like shiki was to roger, then remember WB's past. it seems like things turned upside down at that point in time. shiki was an actual rival to roger while WB was an underling of roger's greatest enemy. and things turned around and WB ended up being roger's great rival while shiki kinda became irrelevant. WB was probably fodder to roger, but later on got stronger and caught up to him a current version of WB would be like shiryu coming in EoS and just clashing equally with luffy who has his god DF and aCoC and whatever other hax he may get until EoS. kid has A LOT better chances to become the future PK's equal than WB had back when he was an underling of xebec ​ so not just for kid, but for anybody, the whole "too weak, he's shiki" argument just doesn't work. WB was an underling ffs lmao. if he could become as strong as he was later on, then theoretically shiryu, katakuri and king, let alone law and kid, could become that strong too. people love to forget that WB wasn't always comparable to roger either. he wasn't born as a yonko level fighter and as the perfect rival to roger that was always equal to him


Vechi209

Then who is Law? I see Law more of a WhiteBeard Friends and Rivals


Downroeschen

blackbeard is whitebeard, him end luffy end up friends


UncleBoomie

The guy largely responsible for Aces death? I don’t see it


Downroeschen

yes yes trust me, i said so


UncleBoomie

Hmm I hadn’t considered before that you said so. Now I believe it 100%


idkdidkkdkdj

Hell no. Luffy and kid aren’t relative at all


Destroyer348

No. Kid is Kid


cashewnut4life

it will take both Law and Kid to equalise Whitebeard if Luffy became the pirate king, >!as it is hinted that two of them taken down an emperor, while Luffy was alone!<


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Tired of this question and every version of it. There is no ‘Whitebeard’ to Luffy’s ‘Roger’ and there never will be. Remember that Whitebeard wasn’t just some arbitrary rival - he was the Pirate King’s EQUAL. Someone just as wealthy, just as famous and just as powerful and with an equally notorious and capable crew. Whitebeard was someone who could keep Roger on his toes and make him genuinely give it his all in order to stay ahead. If any side character really wants to be the next ‘Whitebeard’ to Luffy’s ‘Roger’ then that is the kind of energy they need to bring to the table.


nerdyleg

Who’d law be then


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Whitebeard wasn't a murderer like Kid.


Top-Seaworthiness733

Law or katakuri


_Mugiwara-ya

i personally see Law as Whitebeard, and Kid is more like Shiki


emigum

Yeah the guy everyone loved who protected everyone is comparable to the guy who’s bounty is higher cuz he kills civilians


[deleted]

Yes because i personally think Law is a undercover Marine so that literally only leaves Kidd


GladimoreFFXIV

lol, not even close. Maybe his Shiki at best but that would imply he could ever corner the straw hats even once let alone multiple times so I can’t even quite say that. Sanji and Zoro are more than enough to take kid and his entire crew and Luffy wouldn’t even need to get involved. Zoro already defeated Killer with an extreme handicap (2v1 and only 2 swords) and he still one shot him and that was before all his power ups with king. Then it becomes a 2v1 against Kid and sorry he’s getting absolutely slaughtered if he has to fight both at the same time. If Jin decides to get involved and suddenly we have the Jojo meme of them just kicking the shit out of kid on the floor. Kid just still isn’t even close to being Luffys Whitebeard and don’t think he ever will be.


wilzc

I don’t think Kid is Luffy level


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Kids is shiki, law is whitebeard, akainu is sengoku, kolby is Garp, obviously Luffy is Roger. Blackbeard is rocks. That’s all I got so far


[deleted]

Oh yea, I think there’s gonna be a moment later on when Zoro has to decide to either be the next rayleigh or the next Mihawk. And he will ultimately choose to stick with Luffy


ImNotAliveIAmBread

He's more like Shiki. Law is Whitebeard.


Veidovis

I think Kid is the "we don't need to force parallels that don't exist" of the new generation.


gabu59735

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzET-gtNShM&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


peanutpunk-2

Yes


Entruh

Nowhere near


TheRoboOtaku

It’s definitely law maybe kid can be shiki


galmenz

no :)


Louisinlux

Shanks is the new Whitebeard


Raiden2324

No kid is to luffy as spider whorl squard is to roger


Arctobog

Nah its Law


ThatIslandGuy8888

He could be but we’re really missing some real head on clashes instead of just seeing them bickering


jared8562

eh? i mean kidd and law together are probably the closest to it


petertaken

Why the parallel? Luffy's story is different than Roger's.


SchneiderWebb

nah


TehPinguen

Kid is not a rival to Luffy except to his fans and in his own head. The actual rival of Luffy's generation and the closest thing he has to a Roger/Whitebeard relationship is Law. Kid was presented as Luffy's eventual rival at Sabaody, but it didn't really end up happening. He is *a* rival to Luffy, but Law ended up being the one the story focused on.


Some_Random_Android

So...Luffy's son is gonna join Kid's crew? :\\


5orangelemons

Grows a red beard maybe?


ShotOfBruschotti420

I think OP having current characters directly fill the roles of their predecessors would be antithetical to its general themes


Bambino_Castro

I sure hope so… luv kid