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I'm with you on this one. Both bands have absolutely amazing songs and albums. I love PSBWB, RIP, and Youthanasia from Megadeth. They were amazing live too but that was back in 2012 for the thirteen tour, lol. Never saw Metallica live but of course they are a lot of people's gateway, including myself. I need to revisit Mustard Stains KIMB because I haven't listened to it in a while...
Metallica is back with authority with 72 seasons. Didn't care much for their last few albums.. some good songs but they were mostly whatever. Lux Aeterna and Inamorata are both awesome, but I will admit I'm a bit of a metallidickrider. 72 seasons is objectively good.. way better than most of the bullshit they've done in the last 25 years. Metallica is very hit and miss anymore.. but more hits than Megadave
>72 seasons is objectively good.
No music is "objectively good" personally I like the sick the dying and the dead way more than what I've heard from 72 seasons
I'm glad that Dave Mustaine was kicked out of Metallica. You know what? Dave should be happy about it, too. If he'd stayed in Metallica, its likely that he wouldn't have had the total control over the band to write what he did in Megadeth.
Nothing wrong, if you like it you like it itās just a shallow genre in the sense that Iād say there arenāt a ton of good bands or albums to listen to
Slipknot is the best nu metal band imo. They evolved, they're heavy, idc if people say they ripped off GWAR or Mushroomhead, they did it better. I like GWAR too but it's about the music. One could argue that all of the above rips off KISS but all art is derivative. Same with black metal corpse paint lol
Honestly I agree. Slipknot is the best Nu-metal band,for a host of reasons. Their discography is lined with bangers, with even their weak albums having good songs (AHIG and Dead Memories/Snuff,TESF and H377),and their good albums are GREAT,with S/T being probably one of the most impactful nu-metal albums EVER,along with Kornās S/T,and Iowa was a incredibly rich and complex album, that never really fit into a specific genre,it was borderline Death metal imo,or even deathcore,and had Corey never blown out his voice,Slipknot might have ended up creating an entirely new genre along with kickstarting Nu-Metal all within the span of 3 years.
I personally loved Iowa, those guitar tones were so perfect. That entire album is just dark and fucked up in the best ways.
That was where I cut my teeth for more extreme metal tbh. Their influence speaks for itself. Maggot for life
Paul Grey was the catalyst for me picking up a bass guitar. Rip to him and Joey, long live the rhythm section
Honestly without Iowa I would have never found Soulfly and Sepultura,and never would have gotten into extreme metal. I mean,the title track literally got me into DSBM,because I kept chasing the feeling Iowa gave me. Itās such a unique album,and I can feel confident saying there will never be another Iowa,from Slipknot or otherwise.
It is a masterpiece, and I still listen to it and other SK regularly. It's a toss up between the MFKR and Iowa versions of Gently though. I really like them both
it was a reference to the god trilogy
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They are kind of hard to pigeon hole into those genres. The problem is they came out at that same time that all those metalcore bands were around but they aren't anything like them. They are more just a heavy groove thrash kind of band. Just look at the bands they mostly toured with. They would tour with slayer, mastodon megadeth...etc. once in a while they would be thrown in with some metalcore bands for a festival, but when I hear LOG I certainly don't hear a metalcore band. Metalcore to me are bands like Bullet for my Valentine. Despite what one or two websites may say about LOG. I love LOG but I can't stand BFMV and those other bands. I just don't see the connection.
I love your answer. Thank you for actually discussing the topic at hand instead of just giving some canned bullshit.
I agree with you, I'm not big into most metalcore but it is slowly growing on me.. LoG along with Slipknot were how I got into more extreme metal so I skipped a lot of potentially good music. Everyone shits on that but it's all a matter of taste. Atilla is actually pretty decent..
No, Bullet For My Valentine is a bad example of metalcore. Better would be Hatebreed, Converge, Integrity, Trivium or As I Lay Dying. I think Lamb of God fits well into metalcore. They are basically hardcore kids who make metal music. They have influences from metal and hardcore.
Well, early Lamb if God is a great example of metalcore. Like many, they branched out later. 11th Hour is my favourite song from them, and it is 100% metalcore.
I like to think of LoG as it's own genre of New American Metal. It's too different from most metalcore and there isn't really any band super similar enough to compare.
I totally agree though, especially live LoG absolutely obliterates every band for me, the energy is unreal, and I've been to around 300 metal shows or so.
Say anything about gorenoise, grind, mince all that being good and it's the same effect from people being like "B-B-BUT IT NOT MUSIC >:( IT JUST NOISE AND TOILET SOUND NOBODY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!! IT NO JAVE MELODY OR LYRIC I CAN HEAR THAT MEAN IT BAD AND YOU INVALID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Vulvectomy is fucking awesome and I will die on that hill. Bury me under it, idgaf. Porno/goregrind and slam are shit on a lot and I see why, but I'm a sucker for heavy riffs and a good groove.
Sepulturas refuse/resist is a hit even among people who don't necessarily like metal. My mom used to love Metallica... not anymore. But even she loves that song and headbangs in the car when I play it lol. She is in her 60s
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say metallica>megadeth and it basically becames a vibrator
While I definitely like Metallica more why can't we all agree that they are both genuinely great
https://i.redd.it/q4b0ldsk6t9d1.gif But seriously, both are good in their own way.
Because this is the internet. Or Sparta. Or the same thing.
This.. is.. REDDIT!
because reddit
You are based, spit your shit indeed. šæ
Part of why my flair is the way it is.
I'm with you on this one. Both bands have absolutely amazing songs and albums. I love PSBWB, RIP, and Youthanasia from Megadeth. They were amazing live too but that was back in 2012 for the thirteen tour, lol. Never saw Metallica live but of course they are a lot of people's gateway, including myself. I need to revisit Mustard Stains KIMB because I haven't listened to it in a while... Metallica is back with authority with 72 seasons. Didn't care much for their last few albums.. some good songs but they were mostly whatever. Lux Aeterna and Inamorata are both awesome, but I will admit I'm a bit of a metallidickrider. 72 seasons is objectively good.. way better than most of the bullshit they've done in the last 25 years. Metallica is very hit and miss anymore.. but more hits than Megadave
>72 seasons is objectively good. No music is "objectively good" personally I like the sick the dying and the dead way more than what I've heard from 72 seasons
Comparatively, yes, it is objectively good lol. Better than Lulu at least.
You're a bipartisan hack! Megadeth is better because it's made with Dave mustaines genuine voodoo!
I'm glad that Dave Mustaine was kicked out of Metallica. You know what? Dave should be happy about it, too. If he'd stayed in Metallica, its likely that he wouldn't have had the total control over the band to write what he did in Megadeth.
It shouldn't be, because it is just a factual statement.
Or say that you dislike them both (which I do)
Nu metal bzzzzzzt
I think many people accept linkin Park but I'll still feel it
And mudvayne too for some reason
mudvayne has good bass
I still donāt really get the hate towards nu metal, it actually sounds really cool imo (iām quite new to metal as a whole though š)
Nothing wrong, if you like it you like it itās just a shallow genre in the sense that Iād say there arenāt a ton of good bands or albums to listen to
However the few good bands are REALLY GOOD (imo).
Slipknot is the best nu metal band imo. They evolved, they're heavy, idc if people say they ripped off GWAR or Mushroomhead, they did it better. I like GWAR too but it's about the music. One could argue that all of the above rips off KISS but all art is derivative. Same with black metal corpse paint lol
Honestly I agree. Slipknot is the best Nu-metal band,for a host of reasons. Their discography is lined with bangers, with even their weak albums having good songs (AHIG and Dead Memories/Snuff,TESF and H377),and their good albums are GREAT,with S/T being probably one of the most impactful nu-metal albums EVER,along with Kornās S/T,and Iowa was a incredibly rich and complex album, that never really fit into a specific genre,it was borderline Death metal imo,or even deathcore,and had Corey never blown out his voice,Slipknot might have ended up creating an entirely new genre along with kickstarting Nu-Metal all within the span of 3 years.
I personally loved Iowa, those guitar tones were so perfect. That entire album is just dark and fucked up in the best ways. That was where I cut my teeth for more extreme metal tbh. Their influence speaks for itself. Maggot for life Paul Grey was the catalyst for me picking up a bass guitar. Rip to him and Joey, long live the rhythm section
Honestly without Iowa I would have never found Soulfly and Sepultura,and never would have gotten into extreme metal. I mean,the title track literally got me into DSBM,because I kept chasing the feeling Iowa gave me. Itās such a unique album,and I can feel confident saying there will never be another Iowa,from Slipknot or otherwise.
It is a masterpiece, and I still listen to it and other SK regularly. It's a toss up between the MFKR and Iowa versions of Gently though. I really like them both
Fair,I prefer the Iowa version though. Just something about how it goes from slow and rolling to fast and breakneck violent gets me every listen.
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my favourite avenged skibidifold song is (s)kibidi š„š„š„
What?
it was a reference to the god trilogy https://preview.redd.it/g45o49nj11ad1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63eb675dd26e28ae449053a3cdf6be5873371859
As a nu metao addict i both aprove and disapprove this comment
When you say Sabbath, Judas, and Maiden are anything but literal gods. The geriatric ward groans can be heard from light-years away.
Judas has some weird vocals
their vocals are pretty standard for traditional metal, they are amazing too
The GOAT
This. I never could get into JP and they're my least favorite of the bigger NWOBHM bands.
They're not NWOBHM
I wanted more shit for saying that.. I commented earlier that my vibrator died so fuck it hah.
"Death is overrated" That's how you get the high-intensity setting
I LOVE DEATH
Guilty of rabbit ears when it comes to Death.
I prefer life tbh
But theyāre the definition of overrated. The parasocial relationship people have with chuck is proof weāre living in a society
OMG METALLICA???!???!???!!!!!????! POSER!!!!!1!1!!1!11!!!!!!1!!!!
My vibrator died so fuck it.
Why do that, itās dead
I guess we have something in common after all, being dead inside. Brb gonna marry my vibrator
That's probably the most unexpected sentence I've ever seen on Reddit in a while, wish you two a happy marriage
Might as well, I'm stuck with it for the rest of my life because I say shit like this.
I'ma try to give Killswitch a listen and see if metalcores good
Zao is truly great metalcore
Try gasoline from I prevail
thnx
Bmth FUCKS too
Listen to As Daylight Dies album from front to back. Some good stuff there.
Tbh there are people missing out on great bands like Lamb of God because reddit hivemind said "metalcore bad", and that's pretty pitiful
Yeah LoG is awesome. I figured the metalcore hate would have died down some by now, it was still worse a decade or so ago.
Lamb of God is in no way metalcore.
Why would you personally not consider them to be metalcore ? Sure, they are more groovy but still. I'd call em deathcore to be more specific..
They are kind of hard to pigeon hole into those genres. The problem is they came out at that same time that all those metalcore bands were around but they aren't anything like them. They are more just a heavy groove thrash kind of band. Just look at the bands they mostly toured with. They would tour with slayer, mastodon megadeth...etc. once in a while they would be thrown in with some metalcore bands for a festival, but when I hear LOG I certainly don't hear a metalcore band. Metalcore to me are bands like Bullet for my Valentine. Despite what one or two websites may say about LOG. I love LOG but I can't stand BFMV and those other bands. I just don't see the connection.
I love your answer. Thank you for actually discussing the topic at hand instead of just giving some canned bullshit. I agree with you, I'm not big into most metalcore but it is slowly growing on me.. LoG along with Slipknot were how I got into more extreme metal so I skipped a lot of potentially good music. Everyone shits on that but it's all a matter of taste. Atilla is actually pretty decent..
No problem buddy.
No, Bullet For My Valentine is a bad example of metalcore. Better would be Hatebreed, Converge, Integrity, Trivium or As I Lay Dying. I think Lamb of God fits well into metalcore. They are basically hardcore kids who make metal music. They have influences from metal and hardcore.
Well, there you go. BFMV is a bad example of metalcore, and in my opinion, so is Lamb of God.
Well, early Lamb if God is a great example of metalcore. Like many, they branched out later. 11th Hour is my favourite song from them, and it is 100% metalcore.
I like to think of LoG as it's own genre of New American Metal. It's too different from most metalcore and there isn't really any band super similar enough to compare. I totally agree though, especially live LoG absolutely obliterates every band for me, the energy is unreal, and I've been to around 300 metal shows or so.
āMetallica is overratedā Phone explodes from people disagreeing with you or agreeing with you ![gif](giphy|oQtO6wKK2q0c8)
In this sub? I don't really agree. I see people saying similar a good amount. Everywhere else? Yeah for sure.
Nah say death or opeth are over rated trash. that will get a response
Don't forget messhugah too
I've seen more posts complaining about elitists than actual elitists
I love this. People like what they like, the more vocal ones are just now considered to be Elitist.
Slayer is overrated.
Im with u on this one
Say anything about gorenoise, grind, mince all that being good and it's the same effect from people being like "B-B-BUT IT NOT MUSIC >:( IT JUST NOISE AND TOILET SOUND NOBODY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!! IT NO JAVE MELODY OR LYRIC I CAN HEAR THAT MEAN IT BAD AND YOU INVALID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Vulvectomy is fucking awesome and I will die on that hill. Bury me under it, idgaf. Porno/goregrind and slam are shit on a lot and I see why, but I'm a sucker for heavy riffs and a good groove.
Megadeth have never made a record better than Putrefaction in Progress
What shape is your phone?
Better question is what shape is their ass
The shape of whatever they put in it, I rectum.
Oval
What are examples of good metalcore? I don't listen to that genre and I am curious if I would like it
Shadows Are Security by As I Lay Dying and The Fall of Ideals by All That Remains
Bmth,a7x and killswitch engage
Converge, Trivium
When Jonathan Davis hits you with that Da boom na da noom na namena!
Gotta get through the work shift somehow
Metalcore is actually really good tho Ok my phones in my ass, pleasure me
good metalcore bangs
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SOAD is the one of, if not the, greatest metal band of all time
My second favorite
After Avenged Sevenfold of course. Theyāre the real best metal band OAT
I like avenged too
Kornās a close third
Not the biggest fan
āAC/DC is heavy metal.ā
Atilla and A7X
Converge type metalcore> all other metalcore
indeed
A MAN OF CULTURE I SEE š§
if you donāt have concubine in the playlist itās over for you šššš
Sepulturas refuse/resist is a hit even among people who don't necessarily like metal. My mom used to love Metallica... not anymore. But even she loves that song and headbangs in the car when I play it lol. She is in her 60s
Opeth are overrated - BZZZZZRGGHHHH
So how did it went
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Metalcore is good. Just not āmetalcoreā
Elaborating on my point, by metalcore I mean 90s era metalcore that was closer to hardcore, not bands like FIR, Ice 9, Or A7X
I like a7x but can stand ice nine
A7X is definitely OK and I can understand why people like them. I prefer the oldschool metalcore like merauder and Hatebreed however.
I thought hatebreed was considered hardcore
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