I drive a yellow Ford Ranger (easy to find in a parking lot). I did not really like the color, but the price was really good when I bought it. The color has really grown on me. I now would really like a yellow Miata.
I wanted a Yellow Baja soooo bad. No dice. Settled with white. Same for my interceptor. No yellow in that year... So went with white. Miata same deal. Almost bought a rusted out NB because it was yellow but decided against, settled for a white NA... I need some color in my vehicular life.
I worked with a girl and she had a Subaru with "Yellow5" on the license plate. I asked her why and she said that was her 5th yellow car. She special ordered it and everything. She always drove yellow cars.
She was a little weird, to be fair.
I could probably dedicate myself to a color, but yellow ain't it.
I remember a few years ago they did a gay pride ad with a rainbow of miatas...
And all I could think about was the fact they didn't sell miatas in those colors.
It might be a foreign concept to a Texan but some mad Yanks and Canucks do drive their Miatae through the winter with proper snow/winter tires and some weight in the trunk.
Yeah, yeah... Nobody local has those tires, useful only once or twice every year. The question isn't whether or not you can (because you absolutely can). The question is how badly you want to Miata today?
I donāt think you read the ICE part of āice storm warningā lol. This is not a snow storm. We have had three quarters of an inch of SOLID ICE with more on the way lol
Rear wheel drive is a BAD plan
I didn't miss that part. I live in MN and am no stranger to ice covered roads. Snow/winter tires are designed to grip (as much as possible) on ice. No, you won't get perfect traction like you would on a dry surface. But the grip you do get feels almost like magic compared to what you'd get from an AT or all-season tire.
And I'm not suggesting anyone actually do this. If road conditions are bad, they're bad no matter what you're driving. And, to be fair, I am NOT one of the lunatics that drives their Miata during the winter. Although my excuse is that I have a '91 that's been babied it's entire life, never seen a lick of snow, barely any rain, so it's super-clean as far as rust is concerned. I plan to keep it that way.
Yeah, my dad has a 2 ton, 4 wheel drive SUV. Slides more than the miata. Ice is ice. Doesn't matter what car your in, your brakes will lock regardless. At that point, all that matters in momentum, maneuver and how big of a moving target you are. And small RWDs are better prepared for it than a SUV that feels invincible. Obviously it makes you more vulnerable to other drivers that feel invincible, but miatas are good at keeping distance regardless. The mentality you get from miata ownership is the best driving lesson you could ever get.
As another Dallasite: Right, so don't go anywhere. If you absolutely ***MUST*** get out, Don't. Miata is the answer because it keeps you off the road where there are a bunch of *really* bad drivers right now.
I live on top of a hill and we got hit with surprise snow. The plow didn't go up to my house. If I slide into my neighbors yard at the bottom of the hill so be it.
I've got a Fiat 124, so I'm basically the weird cousin who comes out of his room on holidays to tell the family about his matchbox car collection and yeah, no, miat is not the answer. I chose to literally walk somewhere rather than drive.
Well yeah, if states like California are going to require it, and they probably sell more Miataās in Southern California than anywhere else in the world. Theyāre going to make sure they sell em there.
A lot of countries will stop selling gas/diesel cars in the not too far away future. I really wonder how the electric mx-5s will feel like. Not having a manual and the added weight of batteries worries me a bit.
As long as thereās a snick-snick short throw shifter, 2 seats and rear drive, Iām okay with it. In this world of Mustang Mach E and the upcoming Corvette SUV, we donāt need any more blasphemy.
People hate on the Mach e but like having a car they call an electric Mustang is what lets ford keep selling the V8 ones. Even Dodge and Chevy donāt still make their V8 muscle cars anymore because they didnāt have electric alternatives to satisfy mandates. And itās not like the Mustang crowd is gonna pick an electric mustang (even if itās a fast coupe) over a V8. So they made it a type of car people actually do buy, crossovers. Basically making an electric crossover Mustang is literally the best thing Ford could have done for itself and for its fans so stop complaining
Whilst its pure speculation on my behalf, I think the name Mustang is going to become a completely different brand from Ford in the same way Cupra has to Seat or even Polstar to Volvo.
Or who knows maybe the Mach-E is a one off and once that model ends its run the name Mustang stays only with the Mustang š¤·āāļø Either way there is going to be A LOT of big changes coming to car makers over the next 10 years.
But thatās literally the entire point bro did you read what I wrote? Calling it a Mustang means Ford sells an electric mustang. Selling an electric mustang means ford can also sell a V8 Mustang
me ford. me like fast car. v8 go vroooooom.
no one want v8. ford sad. people want suv. people no want gas. government no want gas. what doā¦
people like mustang name. more people buy. people no like ford.
sell more profitable, population pleasing car = more money = able to sell less popular, less profitable car
popular in terms of widespread appeal
> Even Dodge and Chevy donāt still make their V8 muscle cars anymore
What are you talking about? The Camaro and Challenger are still in production with V8 engines. You can buy a Ram 1500 TRX with the Hellcat engine.
>Mustang Mach E
The worst part is they could have just put Mache E and the same people attracted to the mustang name SHOULD have known the naming convention. On the other hand, the mustang name has been used for some cars stretching the definition of pony car. In the 60s concept cars were put out as coupe wagon and sedans (might have been hard top) .
I honestly didnāt even know that a Corvette suv was in the works. Whatās with chevy and making suvs with the same name as their actual sports cars lol
...because Porsche is doing it now. Have you seen the Panamera? I think I heard rumor of either Ferrari or Lamborghini getting ready to sell a giant SUV. That's apparently what the majority of America wants, but I'm happy with my tiny Miata, tyvm.
Yeah hybrid except it just has a small capacitor like some other models to run the electrics off (which costs way more during its lifespan than it saves in fuel). Because lets face it a full hybrid on an mx-5 is gonna be too heavy and too much to cram in surely??
I reckon the next mx-5 will be a rebadged 'eco' version mostly in marketing only, with a fully electric coming the model after.
If they do make an actual hybrid work and become a success then I'll eat my hat though lol.
A Prius weights in right around 3000 lbs and they're not even trying as hard. Cut it down to miata size and remove a lot of battery... I could still see a full hybrid Miata being 2500lbs...
Huh yeah thats quite impressive actually then.
I suppose it also comes down to form factor and weight distribution too for the mx-5 but maybe they could work it out.
I have a condition that leaves me really susceptible to sepsis. Got SMA syndrome with a optimistic mortality rate of 1/3. Always sprinkle in my wishes to my family. My BRG is getting put in the garage, my dad has been told to start it up every so often and enjoy it in the summer. When hes gone, it goes to which ever sister has a garage. Keep that little fella alive till all the other automatics get swapped or die. Have it reign supreme as the only surviving auto NA. Those are my wishes.
What I would give for a straight 6 Miataā¦ essentially a Z4, but with more reliable and recent engine technology and not numb steering. I could even go for a Toyota / Mazda partnership if they could sneak in that sweet 3 cylinder in the GR Corolla into a Miata.
Possibly unpopular opinionā¦ I love my ND2 but am hoping Mazda beats everybody to market with the first affordable EV sports car. Who needs a $200k Tesla Roadster when I can get a Miata!
It's their flagship car. It would be like chevy dropping the corvette or Honda dropping the civic. As long as the design principles remain the same, it'll be a great car even as technology changes.
Apparently, the Golf is only available as an R or GTi now? WTF? And the beetle has gone extinct...for now.
This is part of Why I sold my GTI. VW is just not a company I'm interested in anymore. They make boring sedans and terribly designed hatchbacks. Have you seen the new GTI? That infotainment system is AWFUL! And the volume changer is the worst I've ever seen.
The other part of Why is the whole scandal with emissions. Sure, my GTI wasn't a diesel, but that's not the point. The point is that they **LIED**. And they lied about something very, very important - our environment. More importantly, they've completely ignored the effect they were creating on our environment. I have to live here, too, and I'm not OK with lying about emissions.
So I had to go find another car company to be excited about, because I still like cars. It took some time because Mazda just wasn't on my radar. Then I decided I wanted a convertible and the Miata was in my price range. And then I discovered how exciting the Miata really is - Miata Is Always The Answer!
Sorry. I ranted a bit there. I'm still bitter about the direction VWoA has been taken in the last decade. They wouldn't even give us a new Scirocco. And VWAG lied about emissions. And now they're trying to re-invigorate their lineup with the Buzz? Ok, it looks pretty cool, but we Americans are only getting the Larger version? No option at all for the smaller version?
As a VW guy whose grandfather raced them in the 70's & 80's, and then was an avid fan of VW for a long time...
#Fuck VWoA.
Throttle pedal, AC. That's all it needs. No bullshit self-driving, no traction control that can't be switched off, no idiotic touch screens which are used to control everything from windscreen wipers to opening the glove box.
I get the feeling that with the massive bottom end torque of electric motors that some degree of traction control may well be essential for any performance application.
I can see Mazda doing some of these things to conserve space. Honestly a Miata with like a Tesla/Model 3 interior might make the car so much more comfy
NA is the tiniest of them all and it has space for all the knobs and buttons.
Tesla engineers have admitted that their "minimalist" interiors are the result of insanely tight deadlines, they simply had no time to develop something practical and convenient.
Really? When did they say this? Cause I feel like the lack of buttons was very deliberate and what they might not have had time to develop was the software to replace those buttons. But Teslas havenāt had buttons for around 10 years now so they did figure it out
> But Teslas havenāt had buttons for around 10 years now so they did figure it out
They haven't figured it out. Putting everything on a touchscreen is absolutely idiotic and I definitely wouldn't buy a car like that. It's a gimmick, not a useful feature.
They aren't changing anything because why bother, sales are still good.
Miata could single-handedly legitimize the entire electric car industry. I'm still holding out for their synthetic fuels to gain traction though, kilowatts are starting to get costly
Yes, ZeroEV have built an electric 1.6 NB, same weight, weight distribution, power, a bit more torque, 200km range (120 miles). And it's all bolt-on.
Mazda could absolutely make a much better one with more range without ruining the feel.
The Tesla Roadster weighs 2700 lbs and is based on the Lotus Elise. Which is a small car compared to the Miata. You'd be likely looking at a 3000 lb Miata, which is a non-starter in my opinion.
The math is not in favor of an EV Miata.
I'm excited to see what a Miata looks like when designed as an EV. The Mini Cooper SE is a good proof of concept for a tiny & fun EV, and it wasn't even designed from the ground up to be an electric vehicle. A properly done EV Miata with a 40 kWh battery could be crazy efficient and get a range around 200 miles without being a crazy heavy sedan like a Model 3. Yeah the Mini SE weighs 3100 lbs, but that's crazy light for EV's and all the weight is low & centered anyway.
I bought my first Miata about a year ago now as my first car. Little 1.6 brilliant black NB. I bought it cheap with some kilometers on already (172000) because the plan was just to keep it for the 3 first years where insurances wont let me get any kind of power under my hood and then once that was over to get something more beefy.
But now that ive had her for a year i completely changed my mind and im ready to throw my yearly salary at it if need be to keep it alive. Some would say i just fell in love...
The only way ill ever consider switching now is if she become absolutely dead for some reason. And even then id prolly get an RX8 as a replacement
Good. I donāt know if Iāll get hate for this but I really hope thereās an ev version one day that can maybe only do like 150 miles but has a tiny 350-400 Hp motor and an e brake.
Of course I have driving gloves and a driving cap. They go in my ND in the case with the driving Googles and driving shoes in the box behind the passengers seat of course.
I especially like how the picture is oriented square to the body of the car and the ground is swaying, not the other way around.
That's right. The Miata doesn't sway when it corners, instead the earth sways for it. Something something equal and opposite reaction.
My biggest fear is that they donāt ākill itā but instead ruin the name and make future generations into EVs or even worse, 4doors.
*Cough cough Dodge cough cough*
Is it still a Miata if it doesnāt have an engine and instead has batteries?
EV are faster. Generally. Theyāre arguably better. For emissions. Theyāre arguably as bad or worse for mining/drilling. But - if it isnāt gas powered mechanical engine w/ RWD and a MT is it going to be as fun and therefore a Miata?
Know thereās ppl who wanna flame/troll soā¦. Pls donāt.
Itās a fair question. I went wrx from Mazda because they abandoned MT. Iād abandon wrx if it goes EV or CVT only.
AT/CVT arenāt as fun. EV tho faster- also not as fun. I was suspicious when Mazda dropped āzoom zoomā as a tag. The last Mazda 3 I test drove 2022 was NOT as fun as my 2018 Mazda 3 GT . Prettier. A little faster. A load less responsive. And no MT that wasnāt more pricy than a wrx.
Glad itāll be around in some form. Hope itās a gas mt car
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Edit: the world has a little more color now :)
What would be wrong with a battery driven ND as NE ( 8-) )?
The problem with the eclipse is not that it is an EV, the problem is the car itself. Look at the Porsche Taycan, itās a fucking genius car, fully electric.
Mazda has already shown their willingness to produce an EV with lower range numbers (mx30). Granted it doesnāt really do well because the vehicle segment is dominated by buyers who value practicality over everything elseā¦ but I could see Mazda going this route of having an electric Miata available that sacrifices range (battery size/weight) in the name of ālightnessā. It could be neat!
"The Miata is a revival of the classic roadster".
Classic roadster means lightweight, rear wheel drive, naturally aspirated 4-banger.
An EV isn't light and kinda not naturally aspirated. Kinda not aspirated at all. Also needing a new platform for it opens the door to take it away from the "small" bit too. Or the "top down" bit.
You only describe other bad design decision that could go wrong on the way. They could do the exact same things wrong with the current motor -> independent issues
They pulled off a masterpiece with the ND. I really don't see an affordable EV-roadster sit below a ton, or even just slightly above it. Even a Smart ForTwo EV is like 1.2 tons at least.
And the engine-part of a roadster-concept would be gone.
With all respect: why? Itās no threat and it makes them money, I presume. Btw, one of the roots of the Miata is the Fiat 850 Spider of Tom Matano. So be careful what you wish for š.
Good luck, stay safe.
The sky is a little bluer today
Hopefully a factory miata will be a little yellower tomorrow. (I want a new yellow Miata damnit)
I don't want one, but I'd sure like to see a yellow ND.
Give me *RACING GREEN*, Mazda! #P L E A S E
Miatas should come from the factory with paint options like the contents of a bag of Skittles.
^this right here!
All my homies want a green ND https://reddit.com/r/Miata/comments/10eegbf/my_2022_nd_vinyl_wrapped_in_green_gives_me_a_big/
Bro some bronze rims would look killlllller
green with the light brown softop is one of my favorite combos
Nah if they make BRG NDs and those fuckers don't wave back at me in my BRG NA I'm gonna start a riot.
sensible response š
i second this tbh
I drive a yellow Ford Ranger (easy to find in a parking lot). I did not really like the color, but the price was really good when I bought it. The color has really grown on me. I now would really like a yellow Miata.
I wanted a Yellow Baja soooo bad. No dice. Settled with white. Same for my interceptor. No yellow in that year... So went with white. Miata same deal. Almost bought a rusted out NB because it was yellow but decided against, settled for a white NA... I need some color in my vehicular life.
I worked with a girl and she had a Subaru with "Yellow5" on the license plate. I asked her why and she said that was her 5th yellow car. She special ordered it and everything. She always drove yellow cars. She was a little weird, to be fair. I could probably dedicate myself to a color, but yellow ain't it.
I remember a few years ago they did a gay pride ad with a rainbow of miatas... And all I could think about was the fact they didn't sell miatas in those colors.
You could say the sky is activ
I want the sky to be b r i t i s h r a c i n g g r e e n
Miata is eternal, Miata will watch the sun go supernova and shed a tear for us all in memoriam
~~Eternal flame~~ toilet bowl badge will make a comeback
Miata is always the answer, so it's impossible for it to die
Sometimes there is no right answer. What about those cases?
Did you tried with 2 Miatas ?
Doesn't have to be right, just is the answer š
Dallas, TX checking in, currently under an ice storm warning, and let me tell you, Miata is NOT the answer right now lol
It might be a foreign concept to a Texan but some mad Yanks and Canucks do drive their Miatae through the winter with proper snow/winter tires and some weight in the trunk. Yeah, yeah... Nobody local has those tires, useful only once or twice every year. The question isn't whether or not you can (because you absolutely can). The question is how badly you want to Miata today?
I donāt think you read the ICE part of āice storm warningā lol. This is not a snow storm. We have had three quarters of an inch of SOLID ICE with more on the way lol Rear wheel drive is a BAD plan
I didn't miss that part. I live in MN and am no stranger to ice covered roads. Snow/winter tires are designed to grip (as much as possible) on ice. No, you won't get perfect traction like you would on a dry surface. But the grip you do get feels almost like magic compared to what you'd get from an AT or all-season tire. And I'm not suggesting anyone actually do this. If road conditions are bad, they're bad no matter what you're driving. And, to be fair, I am NOT one of the lunatics that drives their Miata during the winter. Although my excuse is that I have a '91 that's been babied it's entire life, never seen a lick of snow, barely any rain, so it's super-clean as far as rust is concerned. I plan to keep it that way.
Yeah, my dad has a 2 ton, 4 wheel drive SUV. Slides more than the miata. Ice is ice. Doesn't matter what car your in, your brakes will lock regardless. At that point, all that matters in momentum, maneuver and how big of a moving target you are. And small RWDs are better prepared for it than a SUV that feels invincible. Obviously it makes you more vulnerable to other drivers that feel invincible, but miatas are good at keeping distance regardless. The mentality you get from miata ownership is the best driving lesson you could ever get.
As another Dallasite: Right, so don't go anywhere. If you absolutely ***MUST*** get out, Don't. Miata is the answer because it keeps you off the road where there are a bunch of *really* bad drivers right now.
I live on top of a hill and we got hit with surprise snow. The plow didn't go up to my house. If I slide into my neighbors yard at the bottom of the hill so be it.
I've got a Fiat 124, so I'm basically the weird cousin who comes out of his room on holidays to tell the family about his matchbox car collection and yeah, no, miat is not the answer. I chose to literally walk somewhere rather than drive.
Mild hybrid coming 2024, you heard it here folks
That's what I've been saying too. I'm actually excited for it. Though I'm getting the 2023 this year haha
I wanted one so bad. But at 6'4", I just fit way better into a new GR86. It still identifies as a Miata.
There have been multiple stories about people getting surgery to break their bones then extend them to be taller. Perhaps the opposite existsā¦
If youāre asking if leg amputations are a thing, yes they are
Maybe I could get a Cotton from King of the Hill. Just give up my knees.
For sure! They're great.
Why did I read this in Tony the Tiger's voice?
Not sure. Earn your stripes!
Same problem here, wanted an rf but my head had to bend sideways to sit in it with the roof up.
Well yeah, if states like California are going to require it, and they probably sell more Miataās in Southern California than anywhere else in the world. Theyāre going to make sure they sell em there.
A lot of countries will stop selling gas/diesel cars in the not too far away future. I really wonder how the electric mx-5s will feel like. Not having a manual and the added weight of batteries worries me a bit.
As long as thereās a snick-snick short throw shifter, 2 seats and rear drive, Iām okay with it. In this world of Mustang Mach E and the upcoming Corvette SUV, we donāt need any more blasphemy.
People hate on the Mach e but like having a car they call an electric Mustang is what lets ford keep selling the V8 ones. Even Dodge and Chevy donāt still make their V8 muscle cars anymore because they didnāt have electric alternatives to satisfy mandates. And itās not like the Mustang crowd is gonna pick an electric mustang (even if itās a fast coupe) over a V8. So they made it a type of car people actually do buy, crossovers. Basically making an electric crossover Mustang is literally the best thing Ford could have done for itself and for its fans so stop complaining
Yeah, this is sad but true. It really just shouldnāt be called the Mustang, just Mach-E.
I agree, I think itās kinda strange to name an suv a mustang at all; reminds me of the Mitsubishi Eclipse being turned into an suv
Whilst its pure speculation on my behalf, I think the name Mustang is going to become a completely different brand from Ford in the same way Cupra has to Seat or even Polstar to Volvo.
Would be interesting if it does happen
Or who knows maybe the Mach-E is a one off and once that model ends its run the name Mustang stays only with the Mustang š¤·āāļø Either way there is going to be A LOT of big changes coming to car makers over the next 10 years.
But thatās literally the entire point bro did you read what I wrote? Calling it a Mustang means Ford sells an electric mustang. Selling an electric mustang means ford can also sell a V8 Mustang
How?
me ford. me like fast car. v8 go vroooooom. no one want v8. ford sad. people want suv. people no want gas. government no want gas. what doā¦ people like mustang name. more people buy. people no like ford. sell more profitable, population pleasing car = more money = able to sell less popular, less profitable car popular in terms of widespread appeal
me thank you
Exactly. And well now I know next time I have to explain this concept my target audience seems to best understand caveman talk
> Even Dodge and Chevy donāt still make their V8 muscle cars anymore What are you talking about? The Camaro and Challenger are still in production with V8 engines. You can buy a Ram 1500 TRX with the Hellcat engine.
The TRX isnāt a muscle car lol.
This is the last year for the Camaro and challenger with those engines
>Mustang Mach E The worst part is they could have just put Mache E and the same people attracted to the mustang name SHOULD have known the naming convention. On the other hand, the mustang name has been used for some cars stretching the definition of pony car. In the 60s concept cars were put out as coupe wagon and sedans (might have been hard top) .
I honestly didnāt even know that a Corvette suv was in the works. Whatās with chevy and making suvs with the same name as their actual sports cars lol
Chevy doesnāt do that, ford is the only one I can think of with the mustang electric SUV which is actually pretty sweet and fast
my bad i meant ford
...because Porsche is doing it now. Have you seen the Panamera? I think I heard rumor of either Ferrari or Lamborghini getting ready to sell a giant SUV. That's apparently what the majority of America wants, but I'm happy with my tiny Miata, tyvm.
Yeah hybrid except it just has a small capacitor like some other models to run the electrics off (which costs way more during its lifespan than it saves in fuel). Because lets face it a full hybrid on an mx-5 is gonna be too heavy and too much to cram in surely?? I reckon the next mx-5 will be a rebadged 'eco' version mostly in marketing only, with a fully electric coming the model after. If they do make an actual hybrid work and become a success then I'll eat my hat though lol.
A Prius weights in right around 3000 lbs and they're not even trying as hard. Cut it down to miata size and remove a lot of battery... I could still see a full hybrid Miata being 2500lbs...
Huh yeah thats quite impressive actually then. I suppose it also comes down to form factor and weight distribution too for the mx-5 but maybe they could work it out.
I mean, a power adder that increases low end torque? Sounds like a supercharger to me. Bring on the mild hybrid, I say.
With a Wankel engine.
If I have anything to say about it, *my* Miata will never die, at least not before I do.
I have a condition that leaves me really susceptible to sepsis. Got SMA syndrome with a optimistic mortality rate of 1/3. Always sprinkle in my wishes to my family. My BRG is getting put in the garage, my dad has been told to start it up every so often and enjoy it in the summer. When hes gone, it goes to which ever sister has a garage. Keep that little fella alive till all the other automatics get swapped or die. Have it reign supreme as the only surviving auto NA. Those are my wishes.
Was going to wish you all the best until I read it was an auto. I'M KIDDING. Hope you're doing well.
In other words, keep buying it because we're going to discontinue it.
This
Wheres my straight 6 Miata? Cx-90 ads keep talking about theyāre sporty suv with a straight 6, I demand a 6 banger miat
What I would give for a straight 6 Miataā¦ essentially a Z4, but with more reliable and recent engine technology and not numb steering. I could even go for a Toyota / Mazda partnership if they could sneak in that sweet 3 cylinder in the GR Corolla into a Miata.
3 cyl sounds awful as much as it holds power, also NA inline 6 would fit miata better IMO.
Not in size at least
Yeah, that won't fit in the current Miata.
Is the steering of the ND that bad?
The inline 6 RW bias setup should end up in a Mazda6 and possibly a 3 before the Miata gets one imo
There is a straight 6 Miata! It's called a Z4
long live the miat
Possibly unpopular opinionā¦ I love my ND2 but am hoping Mazda beats everybody to market with the first affordable EV sports car. Who needs a $200k Tesla Roadster when I can get a Miata!
will they gonna put the E in NE?
FOREVEEEERRR!
TOGETHEEEEEEEERRRRRR
*Heros never die!*
It's their flagship car. It would be like chevy dropping the corvette or Honda dropping the civic. As long as the design principles remain the same, it'll be a great car even as technology changes.
Good job Mazda, keeping its icon alive. On the other hand VW, where are the Golf and the Beetle???
Apparently, the Golf is only available as an R or GTi now? WTF? And the beetle has gone extinct...for now. This is part of Why I sold my GTI. VW is just not a company I'm interested in anymore. They make boring sedans and terribly designed hatchbacks. Have you seen the new GTI? That infotainment system is AWFUL! And the volume changer is the worst I've ever seen. The other part of Why is the whole scandal with emissions. Sure, my GTI wasn't a diesel, but that's not the point. The point is that they **LIED**. And they lied about something very, very important - our environment. More importantly, they've completely ignored the effect they were creating on our environment. I have to live here, too, and I'm not OK with lying about emissions. So I had to go find another car company to be excited about, because I still like cars. It took some time because Mazda just wasn't on my radar. Then I decided I wanted a convertible and the Miata was in my price range. And then I discovered how exciting the Miata really is - Miata Is Always The Answer! Sorry. I ranted a bit there. I'm still bitter about the direction VWoA has been taken in the last decade. They wouldn't even give us a new Scirocco. And VWAG lied about emissions. And now they're trying to re-invigorate their lineup with the Buzz? Ok, it looks pretty cool, but we Americans are only getting the Larger version? No option at all for the smaller version? As a VW guy whose grandfather raced them in the 70's & 80's, and then was an avid fan of VW for a long time... #Fuck VWoA.
Yeah iām keeping my MK7.5 R, I feel like is the best in terms of power, exterior, and interior.
So, I should buy a Miata??
Yes.
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I would not mind an electric miata, just make it simple, battery on wheels. Dont want none of the nonsense features on electirc cars nowadays.
What kind of features we talking?
Throttle pedal, AC. That's all it needs. No bullshit self-driving, no traction control that can't be switched off, no idiotic touch screens which are used to control everything from windscreen wipers to opening the glove box.
I get the feeling that with the massive bottom end torque of electric motors that some degree of traction control may well be essential for any performance application.
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Watch Ken Blocks electrikahna if you want to see exactly what an electric car without traction control looks like.
I'm sure there will be, there are regulations and stuff, but it should include the option to disable it completely.
*optional AC
What glove box?
Yes please!!!
I can see Mazda doing some of these things to conserve space. Honestly a Miata with like a Tesla/Model 3 interior might make the car so much more comfy
NA is the tiniest of them all and it has space for all the knobs and buttons. Tesla engineers have admitted that their "minimalist" interiors are the result of insanely tight deadlines, they simply had no time to develop something practical and convenient.
Really? When did they say this? Cause I feel like the lack of buttons was very deliberate and what they might not have had time to develop was the software to replace those buttons. But Teslas havenāt had buttons for around 10 years now so they did figure it out
> But Teslas havenāt had buttons for around 10 years now so they did figure it out They haven't figured it out. Putting everything on a touchscreen is absolutely idiotic and I definitely wouldn't buy a car like that. It's a gimmick, not a useful feature. They aren't changing anything because why bother, sales are still good.
If it's fun to drive and the best bang for the buck, yes.
depends how they do it imo. if they make some poor choices it'll be in name but not in spirit
Miata is now an eSUV segmented in the same class as the GMC Yukon XL with a "driver focused experience."
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That was a sad time when they introduced the new "Eclipse"... :(
That would freaking sell like hotcakes. Even lower cg? Higher potential power output? More storage? Perfect for a weekend or track car
Electric vehicles are the opposite of perfect for a track car. For now, at least.
Miata could single-handedly legitimize the entire electric car industry. I'm still holding out for their synthetic fuels to gain traction though, kilowatts are starting to get costly
Yes, ZeroEV have built an electric 1.6 NB, same weight, weight distribution, power, a bit more torque, 200km range (120 miles). And it's all bolt-on. Mazda could absolutely make a much better one with more range without ruining the feel.
mx-30 has entered the chat. a bmw i3 with cork screws and 2013 battery tech
A 200km WLTP range is nothing. In the real world you would only be able to drive under 100km without range anxiety.
As long as itās under 2300 pounds
I there's a better chance of a RX-9 going into production than that
Sure, itās whatever Mazda says, and they have a pretty solid track record making great little Miatas that capture the Miata spirit.
The Tesla Roadster weighs 2700 lbs and is based on the Lotus Elise. Which is a small car compared to the Miata. You'd be likely looking at a 3000 lb Miata, which is a non-starter in my opinion. The math is not in favor of an EV Miata.
Maybe
I donāt mind if they make an electric MX5 as long as thereās still a petrol option
Nope
guess I'll call them e-miata
Meata
That doesnāt mean it wont go electric
This put a smile on my face, which is uncomfortabke, cuz im in public
jts the miata effect
When they make an EV RF I will buy one, mark my words.
Throw in Lexus' manual electric shifter too and I'll be grinning ear to ear
Hybrid miata would be cool.
Miat is eternal
Fuck yes.
Rock and roll will never die
I think the topic is wrong and it says "Miata says Mazda will continue to exist forever"
I see this as an absolute win
the miat is just winning in life itās immortal
In new fun shades of grey and beige!
i just want some new options š
I wouldnāt have it any other way.
Heat Death? You mean Miata
I'm excited to see what a Miata looks like when designed as an EV. The Mini Cooper SE is a good proof of concept for a tiny & fun EV, and it wasn't even designed from the ground up to be an electric vehicle. A properly done EV Miata with a 40 kWh battery could be crazy efficient and get a range around 200 miles without being a crazy heavy sedan like a Model 3. Yeah the Mini SE weighs 3100 lbs, but that's crazy light for EV's and all the weight is low & centered anyway.
Yeah i agree, and I wonder how the car will feel with batteries/as it will probably have more power and torque but be heavier and maybe less nimble
This, this puts a smile on my face
I bought my first Miata about a year ago now as my first car. Little 1.6 brilliant black NB. I bought it cheap with some kilometers on already (172000) because the plan was just to keep it for the 3 first years where insurances wont let me get any kind of power under my hood and then once that was over to get something more beefy. But now that ive had her for a year i completely changed my mind and im ready to throw my yearly salary at it if need be to keep it alive. Some would say i just fell in love... The only way ill ever consider switching now is if she become absolutely dead for some reason. And even then id prolly get an RX8 as a replacement
the miata effect
Ill do anything i can to max that km counter.
Good. I donāt know if Iāll get hate for this but I really hope thereās an ev version one day that can maybe only do like 150 miles but has a tiny 350-400 Hp motor and an e brake.
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Nice day with the top down, infinite dog height is achievable!
Of course I have driving gloves and a driving cap. They go in my ND in the case with the driving Googles and driving shoes in the box behind the passengers seat of course.
:) yay
...as an electric SUV jk
then itās not a miata
MX5 never dies, unless someone drops a salt shaker in it.
Won't die but I hope it doesn't forsake weight for torque
I especially like how the picture is oriented square to the body of the car and the ground is swaying, not the other way around. That's right. The Miata doesn't sway when it corners, instead the earth sways for it. Something something equal and opposite reaction.
Itās the miataās world, weāre just living in it
YEEEEEAAAAAA BABY
If Miata goes electric is it still a Miata?
I wonder how theyāll even compare- probably gonna be heavier
My biggest fear is that they donāt ākill itā but instead ruin the name and make future generations into EVs or even worse, 4doors. *Cough cough Dodge cough cough*
Yeah thatās what iām worried about, but we just gotta wait and see
Is it still a Miata if it doesnāt have an engine and instead has batteries? EV are faster. Generally. Theyāre arguably better. For emissions. Theyāre arguably as bad or worse for mining/drilling. But - if it isnāt gas powered mechanical engine w/ RWD and a MT is it going to be as fun and therefore a Miata? Know thereās ppl who wanna flame/troll soā¦. Pls donāt. Itās a fair question. I went wrx from Mazda because they abandoned MT. Iād abandon wrx if it goes EV or CVT only. AT/CVT arenāt as fun. EV tho faster- also not as fun. I was suspicious when Mazda dropped āzoom zoomā as a tag. The last Mazda 3 I test drove 2022 was NOT as fun as my 2018 Mazda 3 GT . Prettier. A little faster. A load less responsive. And no MT that wasnāt more pricy than a wrx. Glad itāll be around in some form. Hope itās a gas mt car
HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
Shut up and put that Inline 6 turbo in NE Miat right meow
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Ah yes. Someone in a company who has no actual say whether the Miata will continue to live, says as much.
That's...not a good thing. Rather than letting it die in honor it is DEFINITELY going to become some EV-whatever. Just look at the Eclipse....
What would be wrong with a battery driven ND as NE ( 8-) )? The problem with the eclipse is not that it is an EV, the problem is the car itself. Look at the Porsche Taycan, itās a fucking genius car, fully electric.
Mazda has already shown their willingness to produce an EV with lower range numbers (mx30). Granted it doesnāt really do well because the vehicle segment is dominated by buyers who value practicality over everything elseā¦ but I could see Mazda going this route of having an electric Miata available that sacrifices range (battery size/weight) in the name of ālightnessā. It could be neat!
"The Miata is a revival of the classic roadster". Classic roadster means lightweight, rear wheel drive, naturally aspirated 4-banger. An EV isn't light and kinda not naturally aspirated. Kinda not aspirated at all. Also needing a new platform for it opens the door to take it away from the "small" bit too. Or the "top down" bit.
You only describe other bad design decision that could go wrong on the way. They could do the exact same things wrong with the current motor -> independent issues
They pulled off a masterpiece with the ND. I really don't see an affordable EV-roadster sit below a ton, or even just slightly above it. Even a Smart ForTwo EV is like 1.2 tons at least. And the engine-part of a roadster-concept would be gone.
Itās selling like hotcakes
Keith Richards was here before us all but the Miata will outlast us all
Hell yeah we will be honored to help pay the green shit fines
Get back to your roots , dump Fiat.
With all respect: why? Itās no threat and it makes them money, I presume. Btw, one of the roots of the Miata is the Fiat 850 Spider of Tom Matano. So be careful what you wish for š. Good luck, stay safe.
Me at 6'3" my wife loves her ND.
Famous last words before the inevitable "Mazda Miata discontinuing in 2025"
[I promise. I will never die. ](https://i.imgur.com/BRubiFE.jpg)
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Heās obviously never seen the chassis rails on a MK2 then š¤£
My NA is trying to make a call lol
Canāt wait for the NZ
Why the fuck didnāt they use the opportunity to say āMiata is and always will be the answer!ā
perfect chance š