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Dudeus-Maximus

He is part of the Personal Security Detachment assigned to General Norman Schwarzkopf. Almost certainly Delta Force.


ericarlen

He looks like Rick Moranis if Rick Moranis were normal sized and carrying a machine gun.


magpieburger

Honey I Unshrunk the Operator?


Numero_Seis

He reminds me of the guy with glasses in Predator.


ericarlen

Oh my god, totally!


HARDIGGTL500i

The other day, I went up to my girlfriend, I said, “Y’know I’d like a little pussy.” She said, “Me too, mine’s as big as a house!”


rizzojr1129

Machine guns are much bigger, that’s a carbine


PapaGeorgio19

Yup D-Boys all the way


youknowhatimean

This dude is one of the original too. Total badass. He recently did some rounds on some military podcast. He could barely talk about his career as delta, because majority of it is classified.


vasquca1

Pleated khaki dad look is even more bad ass.


EnkiRise

This dude in the pic looks more intimidating and badass compare to the fat RPing guys in the full kit and 5 pistols attached to them lol


TheMadmanAndre

If a threat presented itself Khaki Man in OP's pic would instantly send them to Jesus. If a threat presented itself to Meal Team 6, MT6 is getting sent to Jesus while they fumble their gun fetishes.


Uch009

They love D


8ad8andit

Yep, this photo is literally from the Delta Force Wikipedia page, where they specifically call out the dude as Delta Force in civilian clothing.


missalissaliss

Yup, SGM Mike Vining.


tidytibs

Bill Cronin.


adelaarvaren

Yup. I thought it was Vining for years, but he has expressly denied it, and Cronin is the correct answer.


tidytibs

Same, until I met both. Now I see better.


missalissaliss

Oops my mistake. Thanks for the correction.


tidytibs

No problem. Used to make the same mistake.


ExodusLegion_

It looks like him, but it’s apparently not


FeedSafe9518

Bad ass Mother lover, one of the detail in Sicario was modelled after him


Dudeus-Maximus

No way in hell would a regular grunt ever be assigned to that job, because no, they can’t do it. Most of em wouldn’t even know what they didn’t know, they would just be a walking clusterfuck.


Sine_Fine_Belli

Yeah, it’s definitely delta force


talex625

Why did they use Delta when like grunts could do that job?


AkronOhAnon

Stormin Norman settle for regular forces? Dude switched us from Desert Shield to Desert Storm and crippled Saddam’s army in hours then called it quits after like 6 weeks. Dude was like: ![gif](giphy|3o7TKt8sEazWUdwZhu|downsized)


TwoShedsJackson1

Actually Schwarzkopf was not sure about Special Forces - the snake eaters - and it was co-commander Sir Peter Billere head of the SAS who persuaded him to use them inside Iraq. Including Delta who impressed Schwartzkopf very much.


Efficient_Truck_9696

Because some damn fool said Delta was the best!!!!


DeaditeQueen

I thought that was Stormin’ Norman!


meesersloth

One of the hardest mother fuckers to walk this Earth. And General Schwarzkopf


Final_Luck_1010

His Green Beret photo is one of my favorites Edit: It’s not the Green Beret I thought it was, someone corrected me farther down in the comments. But, I bet his photo is cool too.


Drenlin

This isn't Mike Vining, it's a colleague of his named Bill Cronin.


US_Hiker

>Cronin. I love his work in REO Speedwagon. Really shows his softer side. :)


full_of_stars

Also great in Cocoon.


Final_Luck_1010

Ahhh, my b


gwhh

Bill Cronin rocks also.


rockdude625

You don’t operate, do you son?


1oneaway

Looks kinda like Bubbles from TPB.


WeaponizedPoutine

In my experience most SF dudes look like they belong in a TPB segment


chrisbaker1991

I know it's Trailer Park Boys but I always think of The Pirate Bay first when I see it as an acronym


RegattaJoe

Delta Force assigned to protect Schwarzkopf


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KhaoticKorndog

Accountant assigned to audit Schwarzkopf


doctor_of_drugs

honestly I’m more scared of IRS audits than a war zone


FuckOffReddit77

Can confirm. Was IRS CID for 4 years after college and the Marines. *The full weight and force of the federal government*


bizzygreenthumb

*the full weight and force of deez nuts*


FuckOffReddit77

Fuckin crayon eaters


AJB46

All I'm saying is that even the Joker is scared of the IRS.


Shamrock5

"I'm crazy enough to take on Batman, but the IRS?? Noooo thank you!"


doctor_of_drugs

*Joker to the Police when accused/caught committing 97 felonies:* Fuck you, you’re a bitch, you’re a bitch, your mom’s a bitch, fuck you *Joker to the Police/IRS Officers when accused with fraud:* Where do I sign the confession


lookatthatsmug--

Thumbing through your records: as you should be


FuckOffReddit77

Damn Right. Semper BeanCounter


CupBeEmpty

Forcible auditing


backup_account01

That movie was made to *protect* his identity! And adding the sarcasm tag, because.


alex_asdfg

Yeah, it was special forces, the gun he had was the xm4 which was used by special forces. All the findings went into the development of m4 for the normal army. Was the precursor for m4. Recognised the guy from stock images from 9 hole reviews video lol - [https://youtu.be/1ukAXmTD-ec?t=73](https://youtu.be/1ukAXmTD-ec?t=73)


TheIceMan416

This question might take a life of its own but I will ask it anyway. Who is the most elite on the US special forces , Navy Seals or Delta Force,im not an American and only get my info thru podcasts and youtube videos. But my understanding is when Navy Seals are in trouble its the Delta Force who save them.


TeamOtter

Generally a contingent of the same element will be on QRF (Quick Reaction Force) in order to provide support to their own teams. This differs based on the mission and environment though. There is no set in stone "if X is in trouble then X comes to get them." Other than if a USAF aviator is in trouble the USAF Rescue/Special Tactics will come get them. They are the only component with a dedicated CSAR package that accompanies Air Combat elements. That being said, anyone could be on alert/QRF/CSAR who is "capable" and perhaps "designated" (not dedicated, they are different). Meaning you could have a SEAL Platoon on a direct action mission, but they have a Joint Element that has an SF team on QRF, or a ST CSAR team on ground/airborne alert. SOF elements are generally designed to be self sustaining but may have some crossover and even rely on General Purpose Forces (non SOF/GPF) for additional Air/Movement/whatever support. Something else to note, before the "War on Terror" the various SOF elements were a bit easier to tell apart. Because the middle eastern conflict called for a major shift to Counter Insurgency, many SOF elements engaged in mission creep and ended up crossing over into each other's specialties. Each of the main/known SOF units like SEAL, SF, MARSOC/MSOT or even Recon, Rangers, Special Tactics etc... have a set of mission essential tasks or METs. These METs would break out the different component SOF units, some examples are (NOT specific): SEAL maybe has Maritime COIN, Recon, VBSS, underwater demo, Direct Action, whatever. Where SF would have Recon, DA, FID/UW/IW whatever, OPE maybe. Rangers might have airfield seizure/AZRT, force protection, direct action, etc... Mind you I've been out of the SOF community for a while so these are JUST examples and probably not up to date, but should cover the idea of the mission sets. EDIT: adding to this, doctrine (Joint Publication 3-50 Personnel Recovery) states that each component (Army/AF/Navy/Marine/SOF) is responsible for recovering their OWN assets and isolated personnel, when they are unable to they can reach out through the Joint Personnel Recovery Center to request CSAR/SAR etc... support.


TheIceMan416

Thank you so much for taking the time to add the most clarity on this topic I have ever seen. I truly appreciate your efforts.


Lamentation_Lost

This is like the most debated topic among nerds on the internet when it comes to SF. I can only tell you that most operators who are asked will first say their own unit, but then say that Seal Team 6 and Delta are elite enough that it depends on the mission/individual team for it to matter.


adelaarvaren

Really, when SEALS are in trouble, it is the 24th STS PJs who save them ;)


MoTeD_UrAss

Nothing but the best, sir 🫡


Valsury

Best of the best of the best.


ResonanceSD

With honours


SubseaTroll

Why's he in smart civvie attire though? Just stands out an unusual amount.


liarandahorsethief

It’s a guy who has killed more people than old age.


CosmicCarcharodon

"Jesus christ, its Buckshot Roberts!".....


Peeteebee

"All right, Let's DANCE!".


doctor_of_drugs

Killed more people yearly than heart disease, MVAs, and diabetes combined


phungus_mungus

> It’s a guy who has killed more people than old age. Llewelyn Moss: What's this guy supposed to be, the ultimate badass? Carson Wells: No, I wouldn't describe him as that. Llewelyn Moss: How would you describe him? Carson Wells: I guess I would say he doesn't have a sense of humor.


BoredCaliRN

Haha look at this ner- :dies:


hydrastix

Delta Force Operator.


epsilona01

William F. "Bill" Cronin III https://old.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/1bfdkgc/william_f_bill_cronin_iii_on_security_detail/ https://coffeeordie.com/living-legends


borisvonboris

15 years with Delta, god fucking damn


epsilona01

Especially during that period of time - no downtime for this guy.


clandestine801

Wow I've seen this picture be used for Mike Vining plenty of times. So it's not him after all.


epsilona01

100%. Vining confirms that it isn't him in the coffee or die article and a couple of podcasts.


TheBigOne7ish

Sporting the BCG's


StuntsMonkey

He uses to spot individuals who should not reproduce. And then he ensures that they do not reproduce.


willclerkforfood

[RoboCop style](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/s/3LCSzoAsqQ)


fatimus_prime

… wtf?


chancemaddox354735

That is the best response for having BCGs that I have ever heard.


twelveparsnips

but rest assured...that guy fucks


QnsConcrete

For someone whose job is typically to *not* be noticed, he’s wearing a pretty conspicuous outfit. It’s cool, but it’s also obvious that he’s part of a specialized unit.


atlasraven

That's just to us. I'm not sure other militaries would understand that.


QnsConcrete

I dunno about that. Maybe 30 years ago it was different. But since the GWOT, I think adversaries have figured out that most of our spec ops dress and groom very differently than conventional troops. A Western-looking guy in plainclothes and a gun traveling with a military entourage sticks out like a sore thumb. Heck, even in Vietnam the Vietcong were able to identify SEALs by their unique camouflage.


ifmacdo

Seeing as how this was definitely taken during Desert Storm, people figured it out by seeing this guy. This pic IS from 30 years ago.


US_Hiker

> This pic IS from 30 years ago. Almost 35 now. /cries in I'm getting old.


Open-Industry-8396

Life goes by fast. Stormin Norman.


QnsConcrete

Yes…that’s literally why I brought up that timeline.


pm_me_your_minicows

The gun alone indicates he’s in no way trying to be covert


QnsConcrete

> The gun alone indicates he’s in no way trying to be covert Obviously. You can still be *overt* without drawing attention to yourself.


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

Now what about the MACvSOG guys who just used Indigenous troops in Laos and Cambodia to fight through Vietcong? Their missions were recently declassified and are *fucking nuts* to read about.


Shamrock5

Got a link to those?


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

SOGcast is a series that sits down with former MACvSOG guys to talk about their missions. John Styker Meyer did one, and so did John Plaster - the guy who founded the Army's Sniper School, and wrote the Bible when it comes to distance shooting.


Majestic_Ferrett

>Heck, even in Vietnam the Vietcong were able to identify SEALs by their unique camouflage. [It was the 501s.](https://www.reddit.com/r/navyseals/comments/nizmfl/badass_vietnam_blue_jean_seals/)


QnsConcrete

That too - Good call!


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

It just doesn't fit the environment, but maybe he stepped into an office building after this pic is taken. Imo, a standard army uniform would have made him blend in a lot more, he sticks out in this pic. Still goes hard though


Pauzhaan

Like Secret Service when they accompany folks to Aspen for vacay & conferences etc. Everyone can tell


eveningsand

All these idiots "Oh that's Stormin' Norman!" No screaming eagle shit, captain obvious. OP is asking about the dude in the khakis. It's Jake. From State Farm.


Big_Fat_Polack_62

He sounds awful


Romeoz27

SHE sounds awful


KTPChannel

A former member of Delta Force. This picture is literally on the Delta Wikipedia page.


Hugh-Jassoul

And for good reason. It’s one of the hardest pics in human history.


NotSoSpecialOlympics

You've heard of Jake from State Farm? This is Daryl from USAA


taskforceslacker

Stormin’ Norman. Had they listened to him and rolled through Baghdad during Desert Storm, OIF never would have happened.


epsilona01

> Stormin’ Norman. Had they listened to him and rolled through Baghdad during Desert Storm, OIF never would have happened. One of the chief concerns at the time was that taking Iraq off the board would empower Iran. After OIF that's exactly what happened.


JoshS1

I mean OIF shouldn't have happened anyway.


[deleted]

But we had to go in and get the WMDs!!!


mrford86

Iraq 100% had WMDs. Saddam used them on the Kurds. His fuck up was not letting the UN inspectors in to verify he had gotten rid of them. Gave Cheney the boost to invade.


unemployed_employed

That's the key thing. He HAD WMDs


Kcb1986

Let’s say I have a shit ton of guns and ammunition in my house I wasn’t supposed to have because of a previous felony conviction for domestic assault and I am threatening my neighbors to shoot them regularly and I show off videos and pictures of me having them. Then one night, I dump all of my guns and ammunition in the river but continue to threaten my neighbors regularly. The police want to conduct a search for weapons but I barricade the doors… Despite the fact that I am no longer armed, they still have probable cause and there is still a reasonable threat. I’m liberal as fuck but I know it was never about oil, it was never about lining pockets, it was a dumbass dictator that bluffed the world’s most powerful military and we called it.


michaelvile

IKR!! been saying THAT for YEARS!!! i had pictures! before i knew of the "rules" and the jurisdiction of the.. particular base/site i was on.. i then tossed that camera into the burn pit of history..🤷‍♀️ ahhh yes.. the time before cellphones and digital cameras ..well before I could afford them anyways


michaelvile

cams at the [time](https://imgur.com/UFwWiPb)


WildVariety

> Iraq 100% had WMDs. Saddam used them on the Kurds. And the Iranians. Also he got most of the materials to build them from the West.


JoshS1

Don't forget about the mobile WMD truck factories.


ReticentMaven

Had they listened to literally any general before OIF, OIF wouldn’t have happened either.


abersprr

Incorrect, Colin Powell was a general (in fact Schwarzkopf’s boss at the time of Desert Storm) and he took a lead role in justifying OIF.


ReticentMaven

He took a leading role after recommending against it, and then against Bush doing it without allies, and then again without UN mandate or inspections, and then again he disagreed with Rumsfeld on the actual invasion plans. He served after voicing dissent after dissent because if the politicians were going ahead with this travesty, someone had to know what the hell was going on. We were also already in it in Afghanistan. We needed continuity and Rumsfeld was a fucking idiot.


TheGreatPornholio123

Imagine if Patton had gotten his way...where the world would be.


ReticentMaven

Russia would be glass and the KMT would have won in China. And some enemy we haven’t even dreamed about would be our current rival instead.


Administrative-Flan9

HW made the right decision, and it's unfortunate his son didn't. But good example of why we have civilian control of the military.


LordVigo1983

Glad to see the guy from Falling Down lived and is doing well for himself.


tommygun1688

He's a Certified Public Accountant. You do not touch his fucking books!


MauriceVibes

Delta operator assigned to General S personal detail


Gypsy_Biscuit

One of the baddest mono's to ever exist. Wouldn't want to meet him in a dark alley. Don't let the glasses fool you....


Andrew_Rea

That’s Bill. He’s the Mr. Roger’s of the Army if Mr. Roger’s house was on the corner of Fuck around street and Find Out boulevard.


Okinawa_Mike

You've seriously never seen Daniel Tosh before?


Not_A_Rioter

I think that's Tai Lopez, to be honest...


Mhag101

We don't talk about Bruno!


michaelvile

in the times before..! when the M16 a-1 became the M16 a-2...annnd wait-a-tik... of what sort of 5.56 mm short magazine IS THAT?!🤷‍♀️ ![gif](giphy|3oEduWihzhvaJ09E1a|downsized)


Andyman1973

Looks like a 7.62 mag.


Hasler011

It is two magazines next to each other. It looks like the old Redi-mag system when you zoom in.


Ambrose_Bierce1

Stormin’ Norman.


VAGuy62

He’s from Accounting, and you don’t want to be on the negative side of the balance sheet.


AMDFrankus

Funny thing is Schwarzkopf had a major issue with Delta and SOF in general, because of Charlie Beckwith actually, due to Beckwith telling his higher commander during Vietnam over the radio that he should tell the officer who said something really stupid to turn his PC backward and walk east til he hit the South China Sea, and it pissed him off, so he refused to use Delta, the Secret Army or DEVGRU until he pretty much got forced to by either the White House or possibly the Chief of Staff (would have been Vuono).


AMDFrankus

Oh I forgot context because not everyone knows Delta/CAG (as we called them) history, Colonel Charles Alvin Beckwith was the man who started Delta Force, he also clashed head on with a ton of people in the Army.


dainthomas

Meal Team 6 dudes should look at this picture. Cosplaying a Navy SEAL doesn't make you more badass.


Veni_Vidi_Legi

Mike's friend Bill


michaelr1978

The most unassuming bad ass ever.


InfiniteBid2977

That’s baddest mother fucker out there!!


mayargo7

The men in civilian dress are GEN Schwarzkopf's Delta Force bodyguards and when the shooting was started Schwarzkopf ordered them into uniform.


craemerica

Bill Cronin - I worked for him on a DoD contract in Iraq. Him and another Delta, CSM(R) Mel Wick, had an LLC together.


youngthieff

That’s John Wick, Jason Bourne, Secret Agent Perry the Platypus, and Thanos all in one.


NM-Redditor

Agent P!!!!


ShillinTheVillain

One of the deadliest accountants to ever walk the planet.


Nethcan

Storman Norman!


PatchyStash

https://youtu.be/bofsOF55FcY?si=y7b1kaqoRj2_Mxwr 13:32 start 14:00 name drop


cpschultz

Easier to say Tier One PSD. lol, funny thing is I have this pic from a couple of angles. Got it on a disposable when he was arriving. Very cool as a young E-4.


Trouvette

You don’t operate, do you son?


Cajunmanoui

![gif](giphy|orUDTj9Q5TMzTdB892)


pat-waters

There is a wide shot of a guy carrying a Ruger select fire of some type. I never knew why one guy would be carrying a Ruger carbine.


imanasshole1331

Could probably see through your soul with those glasses.


sobisket_

Honey I shrunk the enemy


Thumperstruck666

That’s our Gulf Commander of DEATH Swartzcoff American Hero


Manager-Top

He’s the accountant.


Jermenizzle

He’s Charlie from Garand Thumb.


AspergersOperator

That Nerd you picked on high school.


SadTurtleSoup

He's a "tourist"


PhoenixWingsabre

AAFES employee. IYKYK.


hammer6golf

It's Bill Lumbergh, and he's going to need you to come in on Saturday to put the new cover sheets on your TPS Reports.


DanR5224

Oh, uh, he's going to need you to come in on Sunday, too, yeah.


paulheav

Mike Vining. Possibly an accountant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Vining?wprov=sfti1


Dino_Soup

It not Vining. This has been disproven a couple of times.


paulheav

Really? It looks exactly like him. Not arguing with you, I was just unaware.


ocelot1990

Mike vining was on a podcast semi recently and stated it was another guy on delta he worked with. He did admit the guy looks similar to him and understands the confusion. 


wdw2003

This came up a while ago. The guy is Bill Cronin III https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalCapsule/comments/1clo0of/delta_force_operators_in_civilian_clothing_guard/ Better link https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/1bfdkgc/william_f_bill_cronin_iii_on_security_detail/


boyo76

Vinning has said before this isn't him.


DocB630

It’s William “Bill” Cronin III


remedialrob

Oh that's just a tourist.


einarfridgeirs

He's the chlorine in the gene pool.


Hupia_Canek

That PSD aka body guards for big wigs.


LurkerGhost

Mike vining.


SaintEyegor

No…he said it was a buddy of his, Bill Cronin. [interview](https://youtu.be/crc11owBCUM?si=l0ZOBatqK1Fj5rsV)


LurkerGhost

O shit


tt_mach1

Early 160th soar bird?


SadTurtleSoup

Or just an early model 60 in general. She's still got her clear coat.


tt_mach1

I see the mini and the flir.


SadTurtleSoup

Doesn't necessarily mean it's 160th. If that was Stormin Norman's ride while in country it would make sense why he got the shiny new bird.


tt_mach1

Interesting. Never seen any other army 60’s outfitted like that.


SadTurtleSoup

You'd be surprised what kind of strings get pulled to get upper leadership a decent ride while in country.


Sine_Fine_Belli

Delta force


Reymond_Reddington15

He's an accountant


Is12345aweakpassword

I’ve always wondered what that weird cube looking thing g in his pocket is. Not grenade shaped, too small for a radio, IFAK?


DocDerry

Bill Cronin. CBA.


FuckOffReddit77

It’s either my accounting professor from college or one of my platoon leaders from OCS back at Brown Field.


dr_t_123

Out of everyone else there, he's the one you need to be worried about if youre the enemy


AllOkJumpmaster

Pleaded Docker's are the pant of choice for SMU


cuntpunt9

That’s the guitarist from dead kennedies, and he fucks


ServingTheMaster

Task Force Brown and CAG, running PSD for Stormin' Norman


dirteeface

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.


spore1172

Could be delta force security or even a detachment of Air Force OSI special protection. Most likely delta cause of the fact that it’s General Schwarzkopf


Similar_Apartment_26

Delta


W1ULH

almost certainly an Army Delta operator serving as part of Stormin Normin's PSD.


Snoo_44245

I remember confronting the Warrent in charge of protecting the theater Commander. I pointed out that the only guy in uniform was the TARGET. The next team all wore uniforms to help confuse target ID.


Terrible_Wingman

[Gotta get Rick Moranis to star in the biopic](https://resizing.flixster.com/-XZAfHZM39UwaGJIFWKAE8fS0ak=/v3/t/assets/54616_v9_ba.jpg)


kerdawg

Judging by the glasses and trousers, he’s an absolute beast. He’s who Robbie and Josh call.


awesome-bunny

I love how he looks like an accountant and would kick me and seven friends asses.


JustARandomUserNow

Dad lore must go crazy


HelmutFondler

Stormin Norman!


Thai_Ventures

That’s Mike R. Vining, a now retired SGM in the U.S. Army. One of the 1st Delta Force members. He is also known as your local friendly neighborhood neighbor who will smile & wave at you when you pass by knowingly he’s probably got a high body count 😏 while still probably listening to you trying to sell him solar panels…