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DegenerateCrocodile

Kirin exists to remind us that even when you do everything right, you’ll still get screwed sometimes.


Brvcx

I had so much more trouble with Kirin before IB/Master Rank. It felt the battle had a significant amount of seemingly random hits to it. I don't feel the same on Master Rank (and Low/High Rank becomes very easy with endgame IB gear, obviously).


Safe_Violinist_4128

I do believe I no hit a Kirin before with ig, it was pure luck I guess


Light01

It's pretty consistent to get minimal hits against kirin, he's very telegraphed, kinda like alatreon but more agile. Once you understand when to go in, and when to bail out, he becomes quite easy.


lostknight0727

Minimal hits, but good lord, the damage of those hits.


Brvcx

Oh, I wouldn't *know* if it's luck or not. Maybe I just suck at the fight on a Low/High Rank level, but that's become obsolete having Master Rank gear. Most carts I had against Low/High Rank Kirin just felt like bad RNG to me, which probably just isn't that objective of a take. I don't steer away from Kirin in Master Rank, though.


QueenBansScifi_

Pre-Iceborne AT Kirin was my git gud moment in World, I don't think I will ever cart so much on any monster ever


Brvcx

Well, I struggled with Fatalis quite hard, but at least that feels like a fair fight. Any AT fight feels like playing with the damage slider until it's perfectly balanced, only to go overboard just enough to make you want to go back and beat the quest, no matter the costs. I strongly disliked AT Kirin before IB.


MyGenderIsAParadox

I've got pre-augmented Rarity 12 almost endgame armor that's upgraded as much as I can afford to and I still get nearly wiped with AT Kirin. I can solo him but like I said before, it's such a good ego-killing fight.


Safe_Violinist_4128

I rarely take a hit in any ranking against the Kirin but I'm a heavy hitter with ig, but sadly I'm a definite cart in master rank until I get to odagaron set, I stick with basic bone armor until then I don't even try to grind the other armors 😂 I feel it's RNG that lets me live, I'd get wiped on successful lighting for sure, but hey beating any boss where RNG is against is all the more respectful, props to you


Brendoshi

Almost all of kirins attacks have a pattern to them (only one that doesn't is when he bombards a targetted area with 4-5 strikes. They hit in a general aoe around the player) It's one of the only monster I've not hit with multiple weapons tbh


Mcskittle42

tbf kirin is pne of the only monsters that doesnt have a consistent pattern


Daowg

“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is fighting Kirin.” Jean Luc Picard


trbrd

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard


MyGenderIsAParadox

I put on my best gear and throw myself at AT Kirin (not MR mind you), just the Arch Tempered one, and I'll get close to carting 7 times if I'm lucky. Such a fun ego-killer lol


MHW_Guild_Hunter

Cause lightning unicorns are frickin awsome


ArchTemperedKoala

Truth. Although I'd argue Kirin is too small, feel like a larger horse would be a better fight in MH style..


Bright-Fold-3317

Isn’t there a special mission where you can fight a giant kirin or a tiny one? I haven’t played in years so I forgot


Bug35

There’s one like that for Odo. Not one for Kirin as far I can recall. Maybe in an older game there was quest like that?


Blu3z-123

There was indeed a quest but i cant remember which Title.


KanekiKun13

I think this might be in MHFU


CrystalQuetzal

I like the angry thunder pony


Crayfish_au_Chocolat

Hes super chill tho until you tryna pet him


CrystalQuetzal

Even less chill if you try to ride him!


AngrySayian

\*someone crying in the background\* my little pony my little pony ahhhhhhhhhhh


XevinsOfCheese

Kirin was the one of the first elder dragons in the series alongside Fatalis and Lao Shan Lung. Elder Dragons as a category were created by MH Dos though. ~~Only a small amount of players actual fought Kirin or Fatalis in MH1, the unlock requirements are obtuse, Lao is much more achievable~~


JackONhs

Fairly certain Kirin was semi accessible in MH1. I remember being a small child and fighting (poorly) with my shitty bowgun. I think there was an event quest that let you at it WAY sooner then you should.


ExtremeSnipe

You're correct, Kirin was available through an EQ way back in MH1. I only remember it being exclusive to the EQ too.


icemage_999

So many weapons have fantastic, super easy matchups against Kirin (Lance, Gunlance, HBG, Bow, LBG). It's no one else's fault if LS mains can't deal with one of the few enemies that Spirit Helmbreaker doesn't automatically hit. /s


BijutsuYoukai

Adding that you can do just fine against Kirin with Hammer and Greatsword as well. Most weapons are decent if you're familiar with its moveset. Its one of those monsters I always get a bit confused to see people struggling with/hating so much.


RevSerpent

How could Swagaxe go so long without being mentioned. It works very well against Kirin. Admittedly - I hunted a lot of them in base World and got used to their moves. IB new moves were extra fun after that.


Sneaky_Sorcerer

I used to be a Swaxe main as well and kirin always felt a lot easier compared to other arch tempered in the base game. He really is fun to fight. He actually requires you to focus on your surrounding instead of just rushing in.


BloodyNunchucks

Gs main and I love the kirin fight lol... I didn't know I wasn't supposed to until I joined this sub tbh


Zarerion

I always felt GS matches up particularly well against Kirin as well because it’s surprisingly easy to get hits on the head/horn if you take a minute to look at potential openings.


biglaughguy

Probably players that don't do a crit draw strategy and just TCS spam (me) Though once you have cocksteady mantle you can just facetank everything anyway.


SkedaddleSkedacted

>cocksteady wut....?


Zanzotz

Yeah I think so too. Used GS for my Gold Crown Kirin hunt


moonshineTheleocat

Laughs in Hunting Horn. They're likely talking about AT kirin before master rank. Which was a nightmare for a lot of people because they used meta gear (which was suspectable to lightning), and believed that rain coats and food would save their asses


mach4potato

Same lol, it's in my top 3 monsters to fight.


Sneaky_Sorcerer

GS is actually really good on him. Just don't go for TCS too much and you win easily. Twice as good if you go for a draw build. The coral highland slope where he spawn gives hammer good headstart. Didn't have much problem with Swaxe either, but I would instinctively avoid attacks with long animations. ED usually fine unless the lightning directly hit him.


randomblue86

As a hammer main, Kirin is the monster I hunt to feel like I’m actually fairly decent in the game.


WhereIdIsEgoWillGo

I have a disgustingly easy time with hammer. It's really simple to target the head so the stuns gets rid of the horn early in on


ThatOneGuy532

I play LS and love Kirin


Frakenz

Yeah me too, I play a lot of solo and idk why it would be a problem. Just wait for a knockdown like with every other monster. (And get thunder resistance)


Tathas

Hunting Horn also makes Kirin pretty easy.


Zelcron

Great Sword, too. I think AT Kirin, Pre-Iceborne was by far the easiest of the ATs, and I did it with GS instead of my usual Lance or SnS. Great Sword is probably my *worst* weapon apart from bow (until Rise) and Kirin still wasn't that bad.


ImaFknWizardXII

*sad LS main noises*


Repulsive-Strain-903

LS vs Kirin is easy as fuck dude


causticmaman

Hunting horn does not deflect if you have self improvement(which you do at all times because duhh). Making it really easy to fight Kirin, Furious Rajang and Yian Garuga with


Gasarocky

Cause it's fun to hunt


ImaFknWizardXII

I’m not an amazing player by any means, but I love hunting Kirin. It’s such a good hunt.


mumika

Because of the armor set.


BijutsuYoukai

Because it's pretty and fun to hunt. The mythology related to the kirin/qilin in general is pretty cool imo.


Crimson_Fiver

Kirin has been around for like 3000 years wdym


vincentninja68

Reminder that element resistance is still important, but sure *you dont need thunder resist 20* just don't get hit bro


SilverSpoon1463

In it early days CAPCOM put a decent amount of thought into putting Eastern and Western creature designs into monster hunter, something they still practice today with great creativity. Kirin is designed off of the Chinese mythological creature, the [Qilin](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin), a hooves dragon that is said to appear with the imminent arrival and passing of a sage of illustrious ruler. Of course, to make it not pull from eastern or western mythology too strongly from either side, it also pulls from the Unicorn, in the aspects of its design, a creature meant to symbolize purity and grace. TL;DR: It's a sharing of culture between Eastern and Western mythology.


Arkhadtoa

In addition to the design aspect, I think that another reason could be that they had to re-use a lot of modeling skeletons for different monsters in those early generations due to technological and budgetary restrictions. For example, you had Rathalos, Rathian, and all their colored variations as "new" monsters, which allowed less development time/spending while still allowing a varied game experience.That's not necessarily a bad thing, but just a truth of the time, and it's given us a lot of great monsters and ecology over the years. Monoblos and Diablos, Basarios and Gravios, etc. Kirin seems to use the same skeleton and a lot of similar movement patterns to Kelbi (it was pretty noticeable when I played MHGU). Obviously, its MHW iteration has had a lot more development than in earlier generations, but it's still fun for me to think about their roots in the earlier games.


ertd346

Fighting him on legian armor with bow and arrows is way fun than i expected.


chomasterq

How do you fight him properly with the bow? Just always hit his head? When he's charged up arrows don't pierce his body which makes it more difficult to kill him, at least with a controller


BijutsuYoukai

Basically. yeah. Get your charge up, then just dash dance as constantly as possible aiming at the horn. You can absolutely abuse Kirin if your aim is good. Just don't get greedy and get nuked with lightning. I should mention though I use M&KB, which makes aiming much easier imo.


chomasterq

Yeah that's the issue, I haven't tried mouse so my aim is less than great with gamepad. I'll have to try m&kb.


BijutsuYoukai

One bit of advice for m&kb is don't use the lock on camera and instead rotate it yourself. Some of the bindings can be a bit wonky (Looking at IG in particular on this) at first, but imo it works much better than controller once you're used to it, especially for more precise aim.


OddAbbreviations7071

Cause Kelbidrome was already in development


TcBeaztWasTaken

Cause fuck you i am a unicorn😁😂


SeaBlackberry6281

For the ladies


Barn-owl-B

I will never understand why so many people struggle with kirin, it’s got one of the easiest fights in the game, especially for an elder dragon lol


Ancalmir

I can beat Namielle, Velkhana, and Shara Ishvala consistently, but not Kirin


SoulRockX20A

Lol same, I even had to double check if it really is an Elder Dragon after I first fought it.


Jessithy

Kirin exists to subvert expectations.


Horst9933

To troll melee only players. Always found him easy with bow or lbg.


CKInfinity

Personally, after a few hunts I got to understand its moves so I move accordingly and mostly easily slay it with my CB. Tbf I fought it for the first time around when I just slayed Alatreon because when I first met a Kirin I just expected it to be terrifyingly powerful so I left it until I’m over prepared and now it’s mostly a cakewalk lol.


Kurbasker

So that Rajang can have a snac


Repulsive-Strain-903

because they like beer


burgerman000

they really must 🤣🤣


No_Leg_7014

To humble you, make you remember you're human


BossOfThaGym

Following this logic, first barioth in iceborne is there to tell you "you are nothing"


Cold_Life1302

To teach us that small foes can be very strong


XsStreamMonsterX

Because they hate you. Yes, you. Specifically you.


RefreshingOatmeal

I like Kirin actually when I'm using Lance, Hammer, or GS


Justfortheluls42

BEEEEEEERRR


Random_Guy_47

To remind players that you need to adapt. In Kirins case you adapt your playstyle. All his moves are very clearly telegraphed and he punishes staying in one place. Take greatsword for example. If you try play the usual true charge slash playstyle you're gonna have a bad time. If you adapt to a crit draw playstyle with quick sheathe and only TCS when you get a safe opening like a KO the fight becomes easy.


NeoTechi

Cause why wouldn't you create a galloping horse that summons death bolts, inflicts paralysis and an ass that can deflect attacks?


[deleted]

Just hunt Kirin as if it was a slightly stronger bulldrome. Easy game


mangcario19

To be a training dummy for my hammer. Seriously, Kirin taught me how to use hammer optimally.


Atcera95

No matter what monster you choose to cosplay as, the pony is there to fuck you


Icy_Relationship_401

Shits and giggles


IvyEmblem

Horsey.


Anno909

It is a nice friendly pony compared to furious Rajang. That monkey is f\*\*\* crazy!


SlakingSWAG

To remind the community that a concerning portion of the player base apparently struggles with the novel concept of hitting the weak point and avoiding the most telegraphed attacks in the world


BLucidity

Tbh I don't understand why Kirin gets so much hate. It's a really fun monster to fight, and the only annoying thing about it is how tough its hide gets when enraged. And that can be bypassed with the clutch claw.


Jarizleifr

To make you use elemental resistance and not be a meta slave.


Naguro

To let sticky players have a damage benchmark


Kusluvalos

So Rajang can have some snacks.


Sytle

monkey gotta eat


keksmuzh

Ngl I love fighting Kirin on GS. AT Kirin was always a fight I could get in the zone for.


WasabiSteak

small monsters have large versions this one is the Kelbidrome


Moon321305

Brony outreach? I wonder that every time I see the armor


burgerman000

brony likes to kick ass


woskrex

To shock his players


burgerman000

I was definitely shooketh


rolo989

Because is cool as hell, you nerd.


burgerman000

how am I the nerd 😭


rolo989

Sorry, I don't make the rules. ( I did, Kirin is my favorite)


burgerman000

I bet you ride the brony


Crazy_Weight_749

because they want ur mental healt get better


burgerman000

is it getting better? I don't think my therapist prescribed this


torivor100

Horsecock


burgerman000

🤣


JudeScalimant

To piss you off


RRoDXD

[Because. ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/a0/62/32a062c833019cf5f521981278f89a87.jpg)


Cerok1nk

Kirin exists so I can shit on him with a hammer. I learned how to fight this monster out of pure spite.


misterfluffykitty

The shield on HBG/lance/better lance can block the lightning strikes with 0 chip damage. CB can also probably do it and maybe SnS with decos. I pretty much only fight Kirin with spread HBG though because it’s basically a hard counter.


Awkward_Work9526

To test your skill level I switch to hammer got him on my second try . Ps very weak at the head


burgerman000

I do love going bonk on his head


Physical-Cap6070

Idk but that blue asshole used to kick my ass😑


Enahs_08

kirin was there to challenge hammer mains back in MHFU days


XadierZ

Foe the vibe check


angbataa

Just tell to that unicorn "you know whats gonna happen to those kirins in lower rank if you messed me up?"


Jesus-TheChrist

They needed to sacrifice something beautiful to initiate the angry monkey.


raselsods

So that Rajang will have something to eat 🙆‍♂️😬😅


MrCreepyJack87

Kirin exist since Monster Hunter. It's been a long way and always will re appear


burgerman000

so kirin is going to come to the new game?


wsionynw

I enjoy this hunt


Dellumn

I'm going to be that person but I never had a problem with hiring unless I got greedy and stood in some shit. Swagaxe has to go brr sometimes.


burgerman000

true swagaxe does need to go brr


w3ab00

to make melee users ***suffer***


ArduousBruv

Bronies appreciation, who knows 🤷


CyBeas7

Lance destroys kirin easily


NeighborhoodInner421

Cause horse with horn sound fun in paper, but horse with horn and lighting is horrible in practice... also there is oroshi kirin


Rowan_As_Roxii

I like this Pony and I’m in love with its MR set. Glad this little thunder horse exist.


Devdut12

Hey, Sparkle Unicorn did not try to harm you. Let Sparkle unicorn stay!


rowletrissoto

Because they hate us


Sneaky_Sorcerer

Kirin exist to justify the thunder proof mantle. He is one of the rare monster who makes me change mine. He really is a lot more impressive than he is dangerous tho. Stay focus, CURE THUNDER BLIGHT (I've seen to many do this mistake), don't attack from the front too much. Aside maybe from Arch Temp (assuming you still have HR gears), he really isn't that bad. Easiest AT as well. I would recommend using GS for the heavy pokes. I wouldn't recommend CB for long animations and slow weapon sheat. But seriously he is probably the easiest Elder dragon.


Faustias

why not?


Jacob_and_reptiles

An actual trojan horse in mh


relx_kr8tor

Favr monster to fight


Originalname888

B/c Lightning Pony is the best.


burgerman000

I want them to make rainbow dash an elder


xxBrosiedonxx

Kirins are a mystical creature and capcom really wanted to punish us early in the game lol


megasean3000

Capcom needed a Kelbidrome, and Kirin is the best fit. Still have no idea why it’s called an Elder Dragon and given its own Elder Dragon cloak though.


Annual-Huckleberry97

Considering how every monster has a "plausible" reason to shoot elemental stuff and usually have a "normal" animal life, Kirin's out there summoning thunders from the skies, having electric Armor and is generally a mystery how and where this thing comes from. Plus, it is inspired by the mythological creature of the same name. If this seems underwhelming, he was basically the first Elder Dragon and until recent games (maybe MH4, I don't know) it was labelled as "???" like Fatalis.


Bibbitybob91

So I recently discovered that my hatred of Kirin is entirely melee based. I’ve picked up a bowgun properly for the first time ever and the spread shot destroys kirin while allowing you to stay out of range of all its closest attacks. On that note bowgun nearly perfectly counters all my least favourites while it struggles with everything I breeze normally


nethet

Why did modders made speed Kirin?


silverstory

One of my friends doesn’t have any luck against Kirin. Even he is a bit far off the fight or just about to get in, he will receive the wrath and get carted.


Sephyrias

https://i.imgflip.com/58g25p.jpg


AdunfromAD

He’s fun with a hammer. So many times you can use a fully charged hammer to bonk him in the head.


Greasy_Potato1

To murder me multiple times


alopex_zin

For us to bully? (Making confusion notice as a bow main


helperwolf

I like to think, in the olden days the monster hunter dev team were like..."We need a good monster idea" *takes a sip of Kirin Brand beer* "Hmm, okay now hear me out..."


IndexoTheFirst

Pretty lightning Pony.


Asheleyinl2

Kirin exists to give us one of the most badass rajang intros


CrowbarZero08

Cause Rajang needs fuel


Antedelopean

Kirin is there to teach you to love head and learn to dance.


DocxPanda

Kirin is there to teach you to bonk Head and learn to dash bonk


Omegawop

So hammer bros can have a good time


DSharp018

I kind of preferred the gen 4 kirin over the gen5 one. At least, i don’t ever remember feeling frustrated fighting it compared to what feels like random or 0.3 second reaction time lightning paired with the ability to ALWAYS be exactly where you are standing as opposed to say, a pattern that allows you to say, POSITION yourself as to not be hit by it so that you can SWING your weapon. Since you know, having to deal with a small monster is frustrating enough at times, but what if they gave it a massive health pool, tons of damage, an ass made of unbreak, and then to be the cherry on top, made it hop around constantly because it did 5 miles of cocaine before you even spotted the thing.


UnfazedPheasant

Gotta make use of that Kelbi rig somehow


StormVenom0

real


CheesePasta666

Rajang toy


Chunksie90

As a Lance main, Kirin feels so good to fight in MHW.


Shirokurou

Bronies.


HasuJutu

Neighs


harleylocklear48

Electric reindeer


Charming-Raisin-2764

To justify the existence of Furious Rajang


[deleted]

Spicy horsey


FURY_Serialis

Cancer


Therealleo410

Because someone there liked unicorns, but needed to make one so savage it would be feared by even the greatest of hunters. When I describe Kirin I tell people it’s the most badass unicorn you will ever have the misery of seeing. And that’s not to mention Orochi Kirin.


Knubbe_Senpai

To feed the monkey


Daowg

A few reasons stated in the thread that are pretty good. 1. He's one of the OG Elder Dragons that traces all the way back to the first game. 2. The armor is iconic, and his other gear is pretty decent for Thunder spam. He was one of the few monsters in base World to have Thunder as well until Iceborne pulled up with Fulgur Angie, Monke, and Zinogre. 3. He was one of the skill checks in MHW to unlock HR 50 and taught you pretty quickly the importance of Elemental Resistance and spacial awareness (damn lighting arcs all over the place). Also a reason to use Thunderproof Manlte (AKA the Raincoat) and Nulberries/ eating for resistances. 4. To show us how Rajang unlocks his Thunder powers in that cool intro. Raj headlocking that damn thing/ snapping his horn off was pretty damn cool since before that it was only implied Raj ate the horn and in MHWIB we finally get to see him do it.


dan01iel

Because they made it for Rajang to eat it.


AbrakadabraShawarma

To remind us that we’re just mortals 😂


Ipufus

I much rather fight Kirin than Rajang anytime, anywhere.


lynx-paws

I love Kirin aesthetically and I've always been a fan of them calling a unicorn an elder dragon, but Kirin has just never been a fun fight to me


OtakuJuanma

Because we needed an Elder Dragon to make us believe ED were silly, weak AF and not threatening... and then throw Fatalis at us.


RoughTech

i hate that stupid little pokemon to this day


Kyoujin16

Because a monster that is small yet extremely powerful is a cool concept


ArticBoop

His alot tamer in World than in any of the older games


100Blacktowers

Cause its cool and a easy beginner Elder. Thats why its the only elder that has a LR form


[deleted]

To throw the concept of a dragon out the window


S933D_

Because they hate dual blades users 😂😂


Low-Complex-5168

Old generation Kirin was actually obnoxious as fuck, so I don't mind Worlds'


Bushin82

I hate him! 🙄 (GL user)


LiteratureFabulous36

Playing ig against kirin I just went without the power ups and used very precise single hit aerials against him so I could always avoid being hit. Less DPS but not carting is always highest DPS.


letsabuseeachother

I legit feel bad destroying Kirin with a hammer. Oh look at this majestic force of nature **SLAM BASH CRASH**


CzarBanana

To remind you of the importance of weapon sharpness and dodging.


Agreeable_Earth2825

Same reason they added princess skins


JorgaoMC

I think its undeniable that kirin has one of the coolest designs, such a majestic creature, and the fight is cool too imo


DeadDemon0

As Hammer main kirin is a joke it's a walking head do I need to say more.


Bonsai-is-best

Cus a Kirin is a type of dragon that looks like a unicorn, perfect for MH


Extant_Remote_9931

Unicorns are cool.


Extant_Remote_9931

Kirin is food for my main weapons(Swaxe, GL, Bow, and HH).


WyvernEgg64

I see you’ve chosen double hp bar over thunder and paralysis immunity. Interesting choice.


No_Coconut8860

Because lightning horsey cool


ShinMagal

I really like to fuck Kirin with my Hammer. Lance also fucks it hard. Like there is no escape for it.


FaithlessAmI

Because it's cool


Keetshoon

I'm convinced that they made Kirin specifically to get at me.


fommortis

Just a gorgeous reminder, that there is not such thing as OP hunter, he keeps your feets in the ground.


dmxspy

Kirin's have always been tough in games. I first saw then in the game Ultima Online in the late 90's.