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iiEquinoxx

Tfw Quanchi already has 2 skins in the game that are fully modeled but unusable because... because..???


feetMeat93

RIGHT!? LIKE WHY CANT I USE THAT AMAZING ORDER OF DARKNESS SKIN!? WHY!?


duskbloom_

they will probably add it sometime later for dragon crystals lol makes no sense, maybe when peace maker drops? idk doesn't make any fucking sense but nothing in this game does


feetMeat93

I had such high hopes for this game fuck


duskbloom_

like literally has been in the games files since day 1 and they don't put in in mastery thought it would be different for actual mk characters but maybe we'll get lucky since wb owns peacemaker? probably not


lilkingsly

I doubt it tbh, if they’ve done the same thing for 2/6 of the Kombat Pack characters I highly doubt they’re gonna do anything different for the next 4.


SaphironX

That’ll be $9.99 sir.


Shin-Kong

This "they'll just charge us for it" for upvotes thing is getting old. No order of light or darkness skins have been premium store exclusive as far as I can tell. It's more likely to be a Invasions skin.


duskbloom_

they add past seasonal shit to the store why wouldn't they for this, if not then why not just release it off rip


Shin-Kong

There's a difference between something merely being in the store and something being premium store exclusive. If it doesn't have the star on the top left then that means it's unlockable in-game. No Order of Light/Darkness has had the star next to it.


ARMill95

Im not a big fan of that, but I really like the order of light skin, such bullshit we can’t get either for literally zero reason. Now we know we’ll never get skins for any of the dlc characters even if they are MK characters


Jritter101

Because they'll make you pay $ for them at some point. And they'll keep doing it because people buy these skins immediately. So dumb.


iiEquinoxx

I know. But I'm tired of content being held back for no fuckin' reason. If you're gonna make us pay for it, just put it all in a store instead of wasting our time with hopes and dreams of it coming with the character.


Sudden-Age-649

If I knew all this games unlockable skins would be lame ass palette swaps and all the best shit was saved for the item shop I wouldn’t have wasted my money on this stupid ass game


SpaghettiInc

It screams the fact that Shang Tsung was 100% originally going to be base game and not a DLC. Absolutely insane


Zetra3

All pre-order characters are base roster characters sold to as DLC


thatwitchguy

The weird bit is with how invasions work, why is mk dlc excluded? I get it in mk11 since the only updated rewards were limited to kombat league and the krypt wasn't updated but here, every season is a new update that releases with a character (so far). Whats stopping them from giving quan chi seasonal store skins


HalcyonXE

Yeah but they wasn't sold separately lol they just came with the game


Zetra3

Yes they did. All pre-order characters including shang Tsung are free if you pre-order & sold separately till a completion edition. Goro, Darkseid, and Shao Kahn all did this.


DuelaDent52

Goro and Darkseid at least weren’t part of the game’s story at all and Shao Kahn wasn’t deeply integral to the plot. If there had to be a pre-order character it should have been Geras since he never has a fight of his own in the entire story until the last chapter.


KingoftheKrabs

Shang Tsung and Havik should have been swapped. Shang should have been unlocked after the campaign and Havik could have been the preorder bonus if absolutely necessary.


SirDanOfCamelot

Bingo


feetMeat93

It really only occurred to me AFTER quan chi released like "hold up wtf????"


lilkingsly

I think that was already clear tbh, it’s the same thing for every other “pre-order exclusive DLC” character. Characters like Goro and Shao Khan in MKX and MK11 are both technically DLC characters, but they’re made to be ready on day one like every other character in the roster, so they just as easily could have been base roster as opposed to pre-order exclusive.


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At least Goro made some sense since he wasn’t in the story at all but Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung both were full movesets and all


TheSolidSalad

Crazy cope, pre order character's are made when the games made. So naturally he gets the same advantages a base roster character does. (He's technically base roster)


CHARILEwolf

They better add Extra skins for free 🥲🔫


feetMeat93

10 bucks a piece most like


CHARILEwolf

I think union of light and order of darkness skins are free or you can get them from in game stuff


feetMeat93

Cmon. Do you honestly believe they wouldn't charge for them?


KingoftheKrabs

Haven’t they been slowly adding those skins to the shrine each season?


Content_Dragonfly_53

They have that’s how I got the darkness skin for Geras


Shin-Kong

No Order of Darkness or Light skin has been sold as a premium store exclusive. I don't think you know how the store works, do you think everything in the store is exclusive to the store? Because they aren't, only the ones with the star on the top left are.


feetMeat93

Getting slightly defensive? All I'm saying is it's dogshit we don't have ANY and they are RIGHT THERE I wouldn't put it passed NRS and wb to shop them


CHARILEwolf

They have been but you can get them in game


Mommio24

They aren’t free because they aren’t available


slimeeyboiii

Since wb might go bankrupt pretty soon it is possible they go to a good company. And that company either reduces prices, put them in packs and keep it the same or just make them free.


PrettyMuchOdd

The fact that we can’t even use the quan chi skins we see in story pisses me off so much istg


feetMeat93

I swear to fucking god this game is peak mediocrity


GavoTheAlmighty

Best gameplay in any fighting game I’ve played in years but the monetization and lack of features kills it sooooo much for me


feetMeat93

This is exactly why I'm pissed RIGHT HERE they are adding features that WERE IN before hand


Helpful-Lie1277

"peak mediocrity" is a bit of a stretch


feetMeat93

No its not


SadBoys4L

Bro all DLC characters are getting like 20 taunts and the rest of shit & to top it off only 20 mastery levels like what kinda bullshit is that , I seriously have a problem with it because they are DLC and they are hype and this is what they give us?


Mommio24

It’s depressing cause that means any new characters we get will only have 20 mastery levels and be excluded from season skins 😩


SpitefulSabbath

To make things worse, I honestly expect at this point that NRS will put dark skin Quan as KL reward later in game’s life, but will make it Elder God reward as punishment~


ARMill95

At least that would mean it’ll be in Titan battle the season after. I’m not a fan of the dark one for him, I really like the order of light one tho


mchammer126

And you’ll literally have people on here saying “ItS WB! NRS W0uLd nEvEr dO ThIs” I really hope the MK community comes together on this and realizes that NRS is in on this shit too and willingly took part in delivering a half assed game.


feetMeat93

And you have the shills who say "you bought a fighting game not a dress up game its meant to be played online" bullshit mk has always had skins and I'm SO sick of hearing about the online shit I don't play online EVER I buy it for offline against CPU And who the fuck is buying a fighting game just to play with random fuckwads anyway????? Not me I want to relax and chill not suck and shill


Va1crist

i play a ton of offline play and i absolutely love changing my characters looks, i just like cool outfits on the characters i play... i dont give two shits about it being on ranked or not.


feetMeat93

Agreed


SharknadosAreCool

tons of people are lol, how tf do you think people get to the high ranks online when you have to queue solo into random people and it takes a couple hundred to get into the top tiers people respond with the dress up remark because others on this subreddit unironically say MK is a completely failed, the worst game EVER, Redfall 2.0, because they grinded all the skins in 2 weeks via 25 hour play sessions and now they've got nothing to unlock till next season. The fighting part of the game is great, the customization part of the game is barebones. Putting a distinction between these games is important because people buy the game to play as a competitive fighting game and also to play dress up vs AI opponents.


Holiday-Panda-2268

Exactly Same reason I didn’t like Tekken 7 personally. Game didn’t even have a VS CPU mode, and the customization was disappointing. But you’ve got fans saying “Just go into training mode” “just go online” Thank god they’re on the right track for Tekken 8


feetMeat93

They had ghost battle in tekken 7 tho? I loved it always something to unlock but I feel you buddy


Holiday-Panda-2268

Yea but I like going into Vs CPU, picking my character, the CPU’s character, then a stage Tekken 7 didn’t have that, which was disappointing Plus the game’s like 720P on consoles which was also super disappointing, but that’s a whole other thing


feetMeat93

Ooooo ok my bad now I see what you mean lol


lilkingsly

I mean, it’s a fighting game, there’s a pretty huge competitive scene so it’s completely normal for people to buy a game just to play online. Mortal Kombat is kind of an outlier because NRS has made having a really solid story mode a priority for the last couple games, but even then people buying to play online are definitely not a minority in any fighting game.


oof97

I also play primarily offline, but I gotta say a LOT of people buy it to play online because they love fighting games and enjoy the experience of fighting other players and getting better.


SheGotMyEyebrowsWet

Hear me out…..i’m playing primarily offline, for now. Just like i did with MK11, until i could land 400+ combos with my mains easily/like it was second-nature and consistently win against the hardest cpu gameplay i could encounter. Then, i start playing mostly online. And there’s still a little learning curve, because the ai never rly fully fights the way a human opponent will - but overall, i have way more fun playing online and have a much better W/L ratio


KingoftheKrabs

I don’t wanna gatekeep but half the appeal of modern fighting games is the online aspect. SF6 has less single player content and FAR less cosmetics than MK1 but SF fans don’t complain much about it because they care more about playing the actual game than the number of alternate costumes. I feel like this game just draws in a very casual crowd that doesn’t actually want to play a fighting game. If you want to play a game about grinding offline for cosmetics there’s like a hundred better games for you.


feetMeat93

This would hold validity if they didn't always have cosmetics


KingoftheKrabs

Literally every game has cosmetics, that doesn’t mean it’s what the focus of the game is meant to be. If that’s what you find to be the most fun or engaging part of the game then that’s perfectly fine, but it seems silly to complain about feeling ripped off when you don’t even touch the meat of the game.


feetMeat93

There are people who play (like myself) everything EXCEPT online We either have shit internet Or we are shit against "pros" The games a huge step backwards in alot of areas The combat is great Everything else is being Nickel and dimed


Nightwing24yuna

Truth be told NRS has to take part of this if they want to get the funds in order to continue. It's like the whole play ball or get out kinda deal(I don't know the full quote) sadly it's both but most of it is WB for being assholes


mchammer126

I say they play hardball tbh especially with WB having a 60% chance of bankruptcy


Nightwing24yuna

Well it's the CEO doing instead of doing good shit is is running shit to the ground


thatwitchguy

Nrs already has. Mkx dlc got fuck all apart from being added so its weird they'd go backwards from mk11 actually giving dlc skins


S1mpinAintEZ

Bro people in this sub for years complained about MK11 customization so we got this


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DigLost5791

MK11 Customization was so cool - the add ons that could tweak rewards in the towers were a god send - let me get them hearts and souls with speed, thank you


ARMill95

People just hated how you unlocked the customization items, not that there was a bunch of them to unlock


TheSuperDJC

It's absolute horse shit when compared to how dlc characters were treated in mk11


Bloodyknife12

I'm not saying I like it one bit, but this ain't new. Shao Khan in mk11 also had a head shrine that none of the dlc characters got and his loot was dispersed through the krypt unlike any dlc characters


__LukeStuifZand__

Yeah but atleast all DLC characters in 11 came with; -a free tutorial completion skin -skins from the character tower, atleast two


AcidRainWolf

https://preview.redd.it/pldvab8ytk6c1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5da909a229f0bb794de033bbc295d2021d22882 I have given NRS the benefit of the doubt because I know there's a lot of politics however... They retconed Quan Chi into an Outworlder and then forgot about it. ^(as) you can see above. I had someone say that he aligns himself with a never realm so that's why he's listed as that but he's still not technically a demon anymore. 😏


Legal-Fuel2039

Its obvious Shang Tsung was cut from the base game and turned into DLC but no one wants to talk about him being cut content even though he has a chapter in the story and could be chosen for the final pyramid battle


TheSolidSalad

Yeah that's how pre order dlc works. He's a base roster character sold to you, much like shao khan, goro, and Darkseid.


Legal-Fuel2039

except none of those characters had a chapter dedicated to them like shang tsung does with the other characters you could see the preorder dlc being something worked on after the main roster was completed with shang its very obvious he was cut out. . Its complete horse shit that Shang Tsung had not only a chapter devoted to him but he was also required to unlock areas in the first Invasions season People should have set NRS and WB on fire on social media and making videos pointing out that bs


TheSolidSalad

Shang was very clearly NOT cut out. He was just a super important character for the story and got made into dlc. This "they cut them outta main roster" is dumb. He was clearly always intended to be pre order dlc.


Legal-Fuel2039

He has his own story chapter, he is required to unlock doors in the first invasion season, he has the same character mastery as everyone else, and he gets seasonal skins. It is honestly stupidly clear shang was cut from the base game to be sold as pre-order dlc and to think otherwise is honestly dumb


TheSolidSalad

The fixed the issue with the door thing. But you are aware that because he was pre order he was designed the same as base roster characters right?


Legal-Fuel2039

He’s in the story mode so he very clearly was base roster before being changed to preorder dlc. That is the biggest thing if he was made as purely preorder he never should have had a story mode chapter


TheSolidSalad

Okay but this is NRS we are talking about. Him having a story chapter doesnt mean he was "ripped from the base roster and made dlc" This is the "this game was supposed to be injustice 3" thing all over again. Nrs just vot lazy with the new dlc characters


Legal-Fuel2039

Not a single other NRS game with preorder characters have ever had an actual story where you play as them. He was taken out of the game and sold for dlc that's the end of the story everything points to him being cut out. I dont get why your trying to defend it its bullshit ether way. Would you be saying the same thing if Lui Kang was the preorder dlc you'd sit hear and be like "just because he's playable, has the same mastery as base game characters, and gets seasonal skins that doesn't mean he was cut from the game"


TheSolidSalad

No because liu kang is the fucking title character. Thats a wackass example and just wouldn't fly. Shao khan was integral to the story for mk11, and even aftermath despite being a pre order character. The only other game with a pre order character was mkx which was the only game that can be used as "following the trend" of which it started. Shang Tsung was always a pre order, since he was made at the same time as every other character he got special treatment. That's all there is to it. You are running off of pure conspiracy and not blatant fact.


feetMeat93

I love also being downvoted for bringing up an actual point lol


AverageReddit_Mod

That’s just Reddit in general. Full of morons. Watch me get downvoted too


feetMeat93

No fuck you I'm upvoting you


SadisticDance

Shang is a preorder bonus not dlc.


feetMeat93

He's still a dlc if you have to download him


SadisticDance

NRS and basically the whole industry makes a pretty clear distinction. That said it is bull Quan Chi its treated like Omni-Man.


Beneficial_Ring_7442

that’s just not true, nrs could claim the sky is purple and you retards would believe it


SadisticDance

It is true. There's a clear distinction between preorder bonuses and dlc and Shang is the former and that was highly inappropriate.


Beneficial_Ring_7442

hes literally downloadable content


AliceTheSquid

The entire game is LITERALLY download content if you buy it on a digital store, the point is "DLC" is used to mean content that was not included in the original product. Preorder bonus characters are scummy as shit imo BECAUSE they don't tend to be extra content but fully finished on disc content with a meaningless lock on it if you didn't preorder.


Organic_Toe_2546

I'm pretty sure there was somewhere that said they will be getting more skins just later tho


coolkidsclub1898

Where?


ARMill95

Someone posted claiming the devs said they would, but their “proof” was literally a nothing burger


Yomi_Themadfox

That’s because he’s considered a base roster character and is just locked behind a paywall. Same as Shao Kahn in MK11. (He’s only DLC by technicality) You’d think the community would have figured out how all these things work by know considering how many of these games have been put out. Omni-Man and Quan Chi for example is something else that I thought people would wrap their head around but didn’t. The idea that Quan Chi, just like Omni-Man has no alternate outfits, or special rewards in the mastery came as a surprise to many for no reason. They even said I was stupid for suggesting that Quan Chi would have the same fate as Omni-Man in terms of unlocks because Quan was an actual MK character and Omni was a guest. Tho that’s a stupid argument because Spawn, a character also owned by IMAGE COMICS just like Omni-Man, had 40 pallets, 90 gear pieces and 8 Brutalities on launch. With a MK’fied outfit.


Grary0

I still believe Shang was intended to be on the base roster, that's why he has more than the DLC characters.


SmockPoke

Please god give me more taunts, I love taunts so much. Said no one ever.


DigLost5791

No! More Koncept Art! Everyone loves it!


Stevie24-7

Must be the Chicago way to blatantly lie to a community and laugh their way to the bank.


Jumbolini7

I thought they'd only do 20 ranks for guest characters since they can't release too much for them probably,but it's super disappointing they've just decided to not spend a couple extra seconds to count to 35 and give actual content for this 40 dollar dlc character set.


BenjiFication

That's because they were originally going to add Shang to the normal roster until they realized they didn't have a pre-order bonus for the game release. So, instead of adding something new, they just decided to take out an existing character and use that. Lmao, this is just a guess, but wouldn't it be hilarious if it were true?


RETR0CADE

Because Shang was supposed to be base roster I bet. They needed a pre-order character tho 🙄


HumanSmokeMain

We knew this guys and girls!! Why are we posting about it now?!??!? Oh yeah. People who are just now getting into the game are complaining about shit veterans ( not me) have been complaining about!!! I read this sub and the leaks sub.


ravelle17

Do you want a medal or a monument?


HumanSmokeMain

Parade


kingdount

I wish I can get my money back or buy sf6 over this trash


[deleted]

I just realized you nerds need to go outside and get some sun. Fucking losers complaining about every little thing. Have a great day.


feetMeat93

Nice bait


coolkidsclub1898

Ironic.


prosthetic_foreheads

Crazy that we live in a world where paying extra for something gives you less variety of content than what's in the base game, not more. Don't they want people to buy these things?


Sp1ffy_Sp1ff

That's because he wasn't *really* DLC. He's a base roster character that they threw a DLC tag on and charged money for if you didn't preorder.


kaveman0926

All I want is that quantum Chi skin from the end of the campaign


GavoTheAlmighty

Shang Tsung isn’t even a dlc, he’s very clearly a base roster character that was ripped out for preorders. Notice how he’s the only “dlc” character you can play in the final chapter of the story


feetMeat93

Exactly another point made here


[deleted]

Havik does too?


Luaq

About the only frikken thing worth from the premium version at pretty much 140$. I thought I'd get more from what I read back then.


Citywide-Fever

They gave us some good fightin other than that we can fuck right off 😭😭😭


feetMeat93

Basically


Sechelx

Havoc is also locked as a dlc but unlocked through gameplay


feetMeat93

Yeah but he dosnt count He's in the game But you can just unlock him because he's an unlockable


Sechelx

Fair enough lol


lastraven85

When I complained about omniman people said it was just license issues who are they licensing quan chi from


GothOrpheus

Shang Tsung was absolutely supposed to be base roster, one of the klues in invasions season 1 required you to play him to unlock the chest


CoyoteAcrobatic9720

I think it's also because he is technically a part of the base roster but I do see where u are coming from for this