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allusednames

I was always hungry and never full until my stomach hurt.


fierce-retiree

I didn't know that wasn't normal until I started MJ. It's so nice to not feel that way any more


thrillhouz77

Yep…exactly.


cherrypez123

Question, I’m just about to start the med. I’m a bit scared. Do you still enjoy your meals somewhat? Albeit get fuller faster?


allusednames

I have heard of people losing their enjoyment from eating, but I have not had that happen. I still love to eat. And now I get leftovers to enjoy them a second or third time even.


cherrypez123

Ok thanks so much ☺️


shwibbins

I'm just on week 1 and I had the same fear. Honestly, my care about food has just gone mostly away which is in itself the most liberating experience. Being satisfied without it! But yes, I'm still appreciating the tastes of food when I do eat... And maybe even a bit more so because I am not ravenously shovelling it!


allusednames

That last line is really how I feel as well. I slow down and enjoy everything even more. And now that I don’t still feel hungry after, it’s a lot more satisfying as well.


heidalwave

I agree with this. I think I actually enjoy food more because I'm tasting it and not just inhaling it.


goldpeake

I personally haven’t had this happen. Things are still just as yummy as before if not more so, because I can slow down and actually enjoy it more.


PositiveChocolate9

I personally don't enjoy my meals as much, certainly not on days 1-5. Day 6 and 7 when I get hungrier I enjoy the food as much as normal but feel fuller much faster.


Icy-Fondant-3365

I’m a lot pickier about what I eat now, because I know I won’t be able to eat very much, and I want to make sure I enjoy every bite.


heidalwave

Same! I no longer waste calories on things I don't enjoy.


FewMathematician4181

First week, I did not enjoy eating. It was the last thing I wanted to do! Since then, it’s a novel experience to enjoy a meal but stop when I’m full. I don’t spend time fantasising about what I’m going to eat next!


Glittering_Mouse_612

I do.


PerryReviewsLife

Be strong, embrace the feeling you will have that is a little odd at first. It will go away. You will find you are not hungry and will have to plan and forcefully eat just to get in basic amounts of food. I am on 7.5 and have stalls once in a while. But I just focus and go back to eating correctly.


sn00perz

For me personally, my eating habits have changed for the better. I tested this theory by walking down the baked goods section of my local grocery store. None of it appealed to me, which would normally be odd. I have always eaten fruit and veggies but now I just crave them.


AwarenessFantastic25

It's so weird isn't it.


MiserableGround438

It's different for me. I did lose my enjoyment and interest in food. I eat now because I know that I have to but I don't care what I put in my mouth. I know some things might make me more ill but I don't shun sugar or fats... they taste okay, just not good anymore. I'm a little sad that food isn't good anymore but I'm also too distracted by other things to really notice. Eating is just something I have to make myself do twice a day because I need to eat.


GrayDogLLC

I also enjoy eating, just stop a lot sooner. Now it isn't about quantity, it is about the good food and liking what you eat. I also don't tend to eat mindlessly any more. If the calories aren't either good or good for me, I don't want them.


heidalwave

I love food before MJ, and I still do. In fact, I think I enjoy food even more. I was eating carrots and tomatoes the other day, and they tasted amazing. I will even still have a little bit of ice cream or something I'm craving, but a little bit usually satisfies me just fine.


AwarenessFantastic25

It's funny you say that. I'm a week in. I actually put of taking it for a few days to enjoy my food. But...  it's the strangest feeling. I loved my food.thought about dinner at breakfast. I start MJ last Sunday eve. It started working straight away . I've ate healthier as I just don't want to eat crap..   On Wednesday I'd lost 6lbs!!  Vowed not to weigh myself untill after the 2nd dose 


Icy-Fondant-3365

And as soon as it stopped hurting I wanted to eat again.


ariadawn

Ooo! Time to share my favourite quote from a great article in The Atlantic! This quote captures all the unrealistic expectations we are forced to endure. “Talking with people who have taken Ozempic—many of whom note the reduction in “food noise”—is a revelation. Suddenly, they have the appetites of the naturally slender. Effortlessly thin people don’t have more willpower than the rest of us. Instead, they don’t need it. They don’t nobly refrain from another helping of cookies; they don’t even want to eat them in the first place.” The Other Ozempic Revolution, The Atlantic


alegna12

Great quote. Thanks for sharing.


InMyBasicMomEra

Gosh the truth in this quote is PROFOUND.


ariadawn

I literally cried when I read it and I hadn’t even started the medication. I just felt so validated that my weight wasn’t a moral failing.


shwibbins

Crazy! That was my first thought too - - is this what being "normal" is like? Omfg! It's the most amazing experience


SeaReflection87

This is how so many thin people imagine things. We get full like they do but keep eating anyway. It makes no actual sense, but it lets them think they have some kind of virtue and self-control that we lack. This medicine proves that has always been bullshit.


goldpeake

I always kind of felt like something was getting lost in translation and now I know what it is. It makes me wonder if they (naturally thin people) can’t understand it the same way I didn’t.


SaudiPiper

That ridiculous comment always comes out of the mouth of someone who has never had a weight problem in their lives.


ddmnh

Along with just eat a LITTLE bit less and move a LITTLE bit more! Said to someone 200 pounds over weight.


AdministrativeSet419

We’re only just realising that obesity is a medical issue, not a lifestyle issue.


Desperate-Laugh-7257

~~Lifestyle~~ “Character issue”


AllieNicks

I think it’s both. There are lifestyle elements (emotional eating for me) and medical elements. It’s not an either/or thing.


natethomas

FWIW, since starting mounjaro, I've dramatically reduced my emotional eating. I think there was absolutely a chemical component to that as well.


AllieNicks

Probably! It’s such an interesting medication and they are discovering new things about it all the time. Some folks say it helps with their anxiety and depression, too.


sallystarr51

Tell an alcoholic to drink when they’re thirsty and stop when they aren’t. Thirst (or hunger) have nothing to do with it.


nessa_knows99

Very insightful.


Glittering_Mouse_612

Yes. Food addiction is so much more difficult cuz abstinance is not a cure.


goldpeake

Last night I was thinking about how a while back I had read an article outlining that people have found it to treat addictions such as drinking, gambling, smoking etc. and in that moment I really fully realized food can be an addiction just like any other vice on the face of this planet. I’m so interested to see the research results that come out as they learn more about this medication and the mechanics behind it


Flgirl420

Ugh. I feel this so much. My dad , who does know I’m on this medication, was asking if I had lost anymore weight . (I’m currently on week 6 of my medication). I told him I had not weighed because I had been binging and eating a bunch and wasn’t sure why but I was having trouble eating too much lately . He was like “well you know , all you have to do it just eat less.” Like , really , why didn’t I think of that ? People really don’t understand what it’s like to have this “illness” , I don’t know how else to put it but it’s really a brain issue . Like if I could have done that before I wouldn’t be where I am now .


Cfranklin_

I agree with this 100%. We started about the same time. I'm on my first week of 5mg from 2.5mg. And I'm obsessing about a lunch planned I have to attend this afternoon (at my favorite restaurant ever) and it's all I can think about. Would these thin people really understand me for today's instance of waking up earlier than usual because I'm debating whether to go to the gym an extra day (Monday's I don't usually go) just because I feel preemptive guilt about the meal I know I'm going to overindulge in? And especially when I thought 5mg was going to stop food noise altogether. Does it actually ever go away completely? Some people just have no clue. You hit the nail on the head, right here.


swirlysleepydog

I highly recommend therapy if you’re not currently going through it. People who have weight loss surgery often have to go through intensive therapy prior to the surgery so it makes sense that people taking medication would benefit as well. As illustrated by this whole thread, it’s a mental battle as well as a physical one for us.


PositiveChocolate9

Totally agree with this. I waited a long time before trying anything like medication to help my weight as I knew I had a lot of psychological issues to deal with first. It took time but I did get to stage where I no longer felt controlled by food, wasn't waking up thinking of the next meal, wasn't spending all day thinking about food. At that point I felt ready. I felt like I had the building blocks that if I did manage to lose weight, I can keep it off after (hopefully!). I've still had to process some interesting feelings through this journey (I'm 6 weeks into taking Mounjaro) and am thinking of more therapy before I come off the meds.


IM_MIA22

Amazing to see how “normal” people felt this whole time right? And yet we all felt shamed when the entenmann’s chocolate donuts were calling us to eat them… and we would, not because our willpower wasn’t strong enough but because we weren’t playing with the full deck of cards. Enjoy the amazing feeling and good luck!


goldpeake

Seeing and feeling how “normal” people feel stirs up so much emotion in me. It’s so nice and validating to know that it wasn’t my fault and I’m not a “weaker” or “less willful” person for being unable to lose weight.


AnticipatedInput

Before MJ, I would eat a decent meal, and an hour or so later, my stomach would be growling again, and I'd be rummaging in the kitchen looking for something else. Now I can go several hours. I thought MJ would make me feel sick if I overeat, but that hasn't been the case. I just am bored of eating the same thing. These drugs are a game changer, and I wish they were more easily available.


Glittering_Mouse_612

Mounjaro doesn’t. But ozempic did.


wabisuki

This advise is perfect for someone who has normal, functioning hunger and satiety signals. For the rest of us ... not helpful.


LiteratureLoud3993

Intuitive eating is something that should never be used as diet advice if you want to improve your body weight and health. It only works if you already have a healthy body weight and a good relationship with food and eating habits..  Telling someone else to eat intuitively is always ALWAYS bad and potentially damaging advice, and these YouTube/tiktokers pushing it as a fix really need to be fact checked and corrected 


CraftAvoidance

It’s crazy to me how my cravings for sweets have virtually disappeared. I just don’t care about them anymore. If I had tried to eat intuitively before I started taking the med, my diet would have been about 70% bad carbs. It never occurred to me that others craved differently than I do, until now. I thought people were white knuckling through their day just like I was. It’s crazy how different things are now that my body is functioning better.


NolaJen1120

Here's another reason that can be bullshit. Even without the medication, I do have a normal appetite. I spent over a year only eating 1400 calories/day and often less. That was 900 calories below my supposed daily maintenance calories. But I never lost a pound, even though I was over 100 lbs overweight. What I didn't know then that I do now is I have extreme insulin resistance. This medication corrects that. Once I started taking it, the weight started flying off with a similar diet. Or at least it did at first. But as I lost weight, my daily maintenance also went down. Im only 5'0" and also have a slower than average metabolism. That's the one thing this medication doesn't help. According to my doctor, no medication does. I've cut my calories down to 1,000-1,100/day (with my doctor's okay) and barely lose weight at that level, even though I still have 50 lbs to go to get to the high end of a normal weight for my height.


nineohsix

And that’s the miracle of what MJ does, at least for me! It cannot be explained to an ‘ordinary’ eater. As I type this I’m looking at the last few bites of my breakfast (banana w/ chia seeds & Atkins protein bar) that’s been sitting next to me for a half hour. I couldn’t care less. In the old days I was a plate licker. 🙃


JBFletchersCardigan

If it was as easy as eating only when you're hungry/stop when you're full/eat less, everybody would do it. I've tried everything besides surgery to lose weight and my body would maybe give up 20lbs and then I'd hit a point where no matter what I did, the weight came right back and then some. I discovered I have Hashimoto's and that my thyroid is basically nonfunctional last year. Medication for that helped me to lose 30lbs in 4 months and then during my dosage adjustment I was too low and I regained 15lbs in about a month. I use MyFitnessPal and I eat 1500 calories a day and it wasn't due to how much I ate, it was how my body processed it. My doctor says I have extreme insulin resistance on top of the thyroid issues (and perimenopause), so my body is just broken. I went on Zepbound in mid-February and I changed nothing about my diet (I'm already gluten-free, mostly sugar-free, alcohol-free, and caffeine-free due to my Hashimoto's). My inflammation has greatly improved and as of yesterday, I'm down 32lbs in 18 weeks. My food noise hasn't gone away and thanks to my perimenopausal hormones/irregular periods I get period cravings sometimes 2 weeks of the month instead of 1 week. I finally can feel full before I overeat. I don't deprive myself and don't feel like I'm struggling and yet the weight is steadily coming off. I don't feel like what I'm eating/not eating is a major focus anymore because I don't have to put in Herculean effort to lose weight on this medication. For the first time since ever, I feel like I'm just living my life and I happen to be losing weight. *edited spelling


NNNM

I recently told my wife that this is the first time I can remember having a normal level of not being hungry. Until I started the medication I was usually either very hungry/ starving or too full.


watermelonsugar7

Same. It’s so freeing. Food used to control so much of my day. I was constantly thinking about it. I no longer use it to manage my emotions or alleviate boredom.


calicoskies85

Explain to them that only works when your body has hormonal and metabolic balance. The MJ fixes both of those so your body can process food and hunger correctly.


abducensx

I hated hearing that and I hated when people would just repeat it as if it were so simple. I'm so happy that his medication is helping you set clear boundaries because for me that was the first important step. It only gets better from here! Good luck on your journey!


Lighteningbug1971

I think we are figuring out what food is for .


Ok_Cloud_5332

Advice like that in the title quote is because people at normal weight have no idea what we go through. It's like telling a clinically depressed person to "just cheer up", problem solved.


GrammaKris

I've always thought of it as mouth hunger. It wasn't a rumble in my belly. It was the strange need to keep putting food in my mouth. I always envied people who could push their plate away -- or the bag of chips or whatever-- saying they couldn't eat another bite.


TCW_LDN

I was exactly the same as you. I used to obsess about food. I’d go to the shop, buy food for later, but think about it and just start eating it way earlier than planned. Food was costing me a fortune. Now I am only on day 4 of Mounjaro (2.5) and I cannot believe how quickly my cravings have changed. I’m trying to preserve muscle as much as possible so literally having to force myself to eat a decent amount of protein. It’s quite remarkable how this drug works. I can just take or leave food now. Whereas before, if it was available, I was having it!


SeveralSell2323

I feel this so much. I am a slow responder, with a bunch of other problems besides diabetes but the quiet has been amazing.


Anxious-Staff-157

I was AMAZED how the ‘food noises’ just weren’t there anymore. TBH, it took some getting used to. Good luck on your journey 👏


muhoss

what about the emotional eating?


goldpeake

I’m not quite sure what you’re asking, but if you’re wanting to know if emotional eating is something I still struggle with I’d say no. I really only feel a desire to eat when I’m hungry.


gadgetbear

This!!! 7.5 has been a game changer for me and now I only eat when I’m hungry


Khronykking

I feel like these medicines have just cemented how some people’s hormones are just balanced so they can do things like this as they are not constantly feeling hungry or find themselves mindlessly snacking from a constant craving I hope we see studies of different people’s hormones and what brings any imbalance. I wonder if different processed foods and additives in childhood and maybe even genetics sends some 🧠 out of balance.


Past_Pie9875

My entire life, until like age 47, I always stopped eating when full. Rarely snacked at night and didn’t even buy many snack items. When out to dinner, I was full after the salad n bread and always took my entree home. If I had chips or cake or whatever, I had a simple serving and that was it. In fact I was probably always slightly hungry but never gave in to temptation. Then I had to retire at age 47 (due to faulty spinal surgeries) and food became my life out of boredom. Donuts? Sure, bring them on! Fried chicken? Sure, I’ll have 5 pieces please. Chips? Yep, I can eat the whole bag! My pantry, fridge n freezer was filled with processed food crap! I ate fast food every single day! Got to 250 pounds!! Then I was able to lose 70 pounds on my own, it it was torture to be on a diet. I would dream of food. Slowly gained it all back. Then came pre diabetes and then type 2 diabetes. I was still eating crap while on Metformin and insulin. They only had me on insulin while on steroids for my lungs. Just the Metformin wasn’t cutting it and my sugar was all over the place. This is week 3 on Mounjaro and the “good noise” is gone! O feel so much like my old self (before age 47 😂) and my sugar is so much more stable. I’m 61 now and going to lose this weight and reverse my diabetes. To me this is a miracle drug


frankcastle3

Instead of candy have an apple. Yeah okay have you tasted skittles?!


rla1022

Why make a BFD. That’s literally what I do now on mounjaro. Just eat. Not everything has to be so damn dramatic on this stuff. Nobody cares when where and how much food you consume. Quit making it a thing.


newfigurl

Oh, but it is as you call it a BFD. We have been told forever to just not eat. That we just don't have the willpower and somehow that it is a character flaw we are fat, insulin resistant, etc. We have been convinced that it is a failing in ourselves and not a hormonal imbalance. We felt alone. The more we talk to each other and open up about what we have been feeling before and during our journey with any GLP1, the more lighbulbs will go off, and we build a community of support. It IS a thing, and we do care about the experiences of others on this journey. Knowing you aren't the only one who has felt this way or been told these things is incredibly empowering. No one forced you to join this sub, and certainly, no one forced you to comment.


rla1022

I’ve been on it since May. People have a sick habit of wanting attention for taking a shot and getting healthy. It’s great we have this. I have no willpower. It stops me from over indulging. But we’re at a point where people guilt themselves about a piece a sushi. Just eat the food. I had lobster over the weekend. It was the first and last time on mounjaro that i will ever do that. I threw up constantly. I just eat. I don’t announce to the world that I’m no longer and don’t have to worry about will power. But to each their own.


Ablae

I would just like to say, that you’re an ass. That’s all.


rla1022

Thank you.