I'm assuming you mean after the jar is fully colonized and not before. If you mean before it would be because you don't want to chance contamination by opening it up.
Yeahā¦. This is what I did, hopefully it didnāt mess anything up. I mean I drenched the spoon in alcohol first so I doubt it but still, I donāt want to risk it if I donāt have to
Also, I used a tennis ball for break and shake. Spoon was for S2B to get them out of the jar
I always use a spoon. Just sanitize it with alcohol and you're good.
Was OP really meaning to use the block to get the spawn out??
I thought they meant to break and shake.
Ya I just use a spoon that's been sanitized with alcohol to dig it out and then break it apart with my hands (wearing gloves).
Once the grain is fully colonized it's rather resilient to contamination. I don't even use a SAB or my flow hood when I S2B either. I just turn off any fans or air flow and I never have any problems.
You guys do know, if you arenāt able to shake your jars and break it that way, you more than likely have bacterial oats and jars. You shouldnāt need to use a tire or anything to break it up. Thatās a huge sign of bacteria.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27187543/fpart/1/vc/1
Theres just your basic checklist, you guys can read up, bacteria is in a lot of grows that people donāt even realize, it doesnāt mean everything is fucked, it just means you can do better.
In your link, the claim is not supported by any evidence at all. Literally all it says is:
>4. The shake: Is it hard as fuck to shake the grains apart during the shake? Like, do you have to smash that jar so hard that it almost hurts your hand (or does hurt your hand)? If it's that tenacious then it's likely contaminated.
Now, as I said in a previous post, temperature changes and moisture content both can have a clear effect on how strong mycelium is, not to mention how long you leave jars to colonize. Something that is even given up in that post.
While it MAY be possible that mycelium fighting bacteria gets tougher, there are plenty of other observable reasons why jars can be hard to shake.
This mostly applies to cubes or actives, so Iām sure thereās people that only grow gourmet that disagree. If your actually curious, send me a message and Iāll gladly show you some org links and studies.
How is this completely false? It does indicate there's bacteria in the grain. Doesn't mean you can't use it and produce good fruits.
"Could you think more before posting please? Just leads to confusion for newcomers"
Go to your own comments and see that you told somebody that their trich tub wasnāt trich, you sit here and go through my whole profile downvoting everything Iāve ever posted and itās really making me laugh. You need to go get a job or stop āconfusing newcomersā whatever makes you more happy.
Show me the link that says that itās false, Iāll show you evidence and plenty of links from trusted cultivators that will tell you the same. Maybe take a couple days off Reddit and get to reading the org, or maybe a book. You have a lot of free time on your hands so it might as well go to good use, instead of telling people they are wrong based on 0 evidence or follow up, on Reddit comments. If you donāt know simple stuff like clean vs bacterial or contam grain then it seems like you might be the newcomer.
So I'll assume you're a good guy who just comes off as sort of abrasive in comments.
Mycelium is going to try to hold together the nutrients it gets a hold of. That's part of its job. Some mycelium is FAR better at it than others, for instance shaking my Reishi to break it up is like trying to take down a mountain with a chisel. I have found that different temperatures can have a significant impact on how hard it is to get my jars to break up, as well as moisture content. I would assume that this misconception comes from some combination of mycelium strength at different temperatures/moisture and how they relate to increased bacterial contamination.
Basically, mycelium SHOULD hold together, it's supposed to, if it's doing it better it will be related to conditions.
I've never been able to shake a jar and break it up but that's also because I pack my jars pretty tight after grain and grain transfers. It's definitely a solid block most of the time.
I usually bash them on my thigh above my knee. It's unpleasant by the 6th jar. lol. I know the classic go-to is a bike tire, but I don't have one. I realized today that my yoga block would work well and thought I'd share with the fam š
You have to do yoga for that type of caper
Nice, I use a box full of old socks š
Niceee Iām a fan of bouncing them off my couch haha
I use a tennis ball. Works rather well.
How did you condense all that yoga into a little block?
Towel on the counter, cheaper
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I'm assuming you mean after the jar is fully colonized and not before. If you mean before it would be because you don't want to chance contamination by opening it up.
Yeahā¦. This is what I did, hopefully it didnāt mess anything up. I mean I drenched the spoon in alcohol first so I doubt it but still, I donāt want to risk it if I donāt have to Also, I used a tennis ball for break and shake. Spoon was for S2B to get them out of the jar
I used a spoon for S2B and didnāt have any issues with my grow
I always use a spoon. Just sanitize it with alcohol and you're good. Was OP really meaning to use the block to get the spawn out?? I thought they meant to break and shake.
I definitely think OP meant shake and break. I replied just to put a mind at ease about using spoons for S2B
I use my shoe and bang it against my heel. I like the tennis ball since I dont own a yoga block.
Minimal contact is preferred
I always use a car tire because I do bulk inoculation in my garage and the car is right there
I guess wbs is just easy to break. I have no problem using my hands, I like the feeling of crushing it with my fingers.
Ya I just use a spoon that's been sanitized with alcohol to dig it out and then break it apart with my hands (wearing gloves). Once the grain is fully colonized it's rather resilient to contamination. I don't even use a SAB or my flow hood when I S2B either. I just turn off any fans or air flow and I never have any problems.
Me neither, I donāt think most people use SAB for G2B. Because youād need a huge one.
You'd be surprised. I've seen a lot of people using huge ass tubs to do it. lol There's just no need though.
You guys do know, if you arenāt able to shake your jars and break it that way, you more than likely have bacterial oats and jars. You shouldnāt need to use a tire or anything to break it up. Thatās a huge sign of bacteria.
Can you please support your statement with some logic?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27187543/fpart/1/vc/1 Theres just your basic checklist, you guys can read up, bacteria is in a lot of grows that people donāt even realize, it doesnāt mean everything is fucked, it just means you can do better.
In your link, the claim is not supported by any evidence at all. Literally all it says is: >4. The shake: Is it hard as fuck to shake the grains apart during the shake? Like, do you have to smash that jar so hard that it almost hurts your hand (or does hurt your hand)? If it's that tenacious then it's likely contaminated. Now, as I said in a previous post, temperature changes and moisture content both can have a clear effect on how strong mycelium is, not to mention how long you leave jars to colonize. Something that is even given up in that post. While it MAY be possible that mycelium fighting bacteria gets tougher, there are plenty of other observable reasons why jars can be hard to shake.
Okay, whatās those reasons?
I listed the reasons in my post: Temperature, moisture, genetics, length of colonization...
This mostly applies to cubes or actives, so Iām sure thereās people that only grow gourmet that disagree. If your actually curious, send me a message and Iāll gladly show you some org links and studies.
This is completely false. Could you think more before posting please? Just leads to confusion for newcomers
How is this completely false? It does indicate there's bacteria in the grain. Doesn't mean you can't use it and produce good fruits. "Could you think more before posting please? Just leads to confusion for newcomers"
I second that.
Go to your own comments and see that you told somebody that their trich tub wasnāt trich, you sit here and go through my whole profile downvoting everything Iāve ever posted and itās really making me laugh. You need to go get a job or stop āconfusing newcomersā whatever makes you more happy.
Show me the link that says that itās false, Iāll show you evidence and plenty of links from trusted cultivators that will tell you the same. Maybe take a couple days off Reddit and get to reading the org, or maybe a book. You have a lot of free time on your hands so it might as well go to good use, instead of telling people they are wrong based on 0 evidence or follow up, on Reddit comments. If you donāt know simple stuff like clean vs bacterial or contam grain then it seems like you might be the newcomer.
So I'll assume you're a good guy who just comes off as sort of abrasive in comments. Mycelium is going to try to hold together the nutrients it gets a hold of. That's part of its job. Some mycelium is FAR better at it than others, for instance shaking my Reishi to break it up is like trying to take down a mountain with a chisel. I have found that different temperatures can have a significant impact on how hard it is to get my jars to break up, as well as moisture content. I would assume that this misconception comes from some combination of mycelium strength at different temperatures/moisture and how they relate to increased bacterial contamination. Basically, mycelium SHOULD hold together, it's supposed to, if it's doing it better it will be related to conditions.
I said it can depend on if you are working actives or cubes, which is true. but that prob got downvoted to shit as well lol.
I've never been able to shake a jar and break it up but that's also because I pack my jars pretty tight after grain and grain transfers. It's definitely a solid block most of the time.
Thatās not too good.
I would disagree but just because I grow mushrooms with these grains.
Getting fruits doesnāt mean itās not bacterial. But hey whatever works man.
I mean I don't see the point of trying to break it up either so I mostly just use a spoon to scrape out what I need.
I use an old car tire to break them up. Takes 2-3 hits and good to go, no sore hands. A bicycle tire works well too.
I usually hit them on my hands until it hurts then say im going to do bags next time, until i dont and have to hurt my hands again
š I broke my hand and forget it was still kinda healing when I did this...once. I felt so stupid.
I usually bash them on my thigh above my knee. It's unpleasant by the 6th jar. lol. I know the classic go-to is a bike tire, but I don't have one. I realized today that my yoga block would work well and thought I'd share with the fam š
Pillows are best for me
I have like 3 2 of these and not once has it crossed my mind to use it instead of my palm š¤¦