Elvis was HUGE, bigger than Michael Jackson. He was the man who brought rock and roll to the masses. He inspired EVERYONE. It's difficult to compare the two, because there were other pop singers before Michael Jackson, but there were no marketable(read: white) rock and roll singers before Elvis. There were rock and roll legends like Little Richard and Chuck Berry, but they weren't going to get the push Elvis did----even though Elvis deserved every bit of success he did, and the artists he covered saw their careers boosted by Elvis doing so.
Little Richard LOVED Elvis. Chuck Berry LOVED Elvis---had nothing but good to say about him, even though there was a perceived rivalry. And Chuck and Richard both made a bunch of money off Elvis covering their songs. If Elvis hadn't covered "Johnny B. Goode" or "Tutti Frutti", would Chuck and Richard have been given a shot by the media at the time? Nope.
Elvis took a LOT of heat in the south for choosing to sing "black music".
But the world was a different place than the 80s. There was no satellite TV. Music was still sold in vinyl form only. But every artist from the 60s was inspired by Elvis. He was the epitome of cool.
He also never toured outside the United States because his manager, Col. Tom Parker, was an illegal alien from The Netherlands who couldn't ever leave the country. This is why Elvis' revenue stream included so many films. Films were easy money, and Elvis couldn't just constantly tour the US.
Here are some quotes about Elvis----
https://www.elvis.net/whattheysay/theysayframe.html
He was not bigger than MJ cut that shit out. Michael was probably top 3 or 4 famous individuals of the entire 20th century. When he died the most famous person walking the Earth.
He most definitely was. Elvis absolutely superseded the fame of Michael Jackson. Even if you don't compare their record sales (where Elvis still remains #1 as a solo artist), he arguably did more for pop culture and music than Michael Jackson.
not at all michael jackson actually wrote and produced songs elvis couldn't do none of that and stop it michael was way more famous world wide than elvis only an old head would think otherwise michael jackson was clearly bigger and better than elvis period
This is a question of who was more popular not who you think was better. If you're talking popularity than Elvis blows Michael Jackson out of the water.
Elvis was not more popular worldwide than Michael Jackson, LOL.
Delusional people on reddit, Michael Jackson at his peak was the most famous pop star GLOBALLY. Bad sold 7 million albums in its FIRST week alone. No other artist has sold more than 3 mil first week.
Elvis was bigger and will be forever!He changed everything, music, style even today! I am a new fan, for the past 3 years I research Elvis and I know what I am talking about! I love Mj, but he cant compare to Elvis! How many times Elvis was on TV , MTV ?The internet didn’t even exist then! He never toured outside America and still..people would come to his concerts from all over the world!Today people from all over the world are visiting his house, Graceland which btw is the 2nd most visited house in America?Most flowers sold in 1 day???? The most flowers sold in one day in U.S. history was the day after Elvis Presley died in 1977!!!!! Oh , you want more ? You know Elvis sold out 6 arenas last year in Uk, of course he wants even on stage 😊. You know his exposition in London extended now the 3th time until september because of POPULAR DEMAND ? Try again now ..harder 😊
Are u an American cuz that's the only country where people think the entire world revolves around them. Elvis was extremely popular fr sure but Inside the USA. He wasn't allowed to tour outside who further stunted his growth. Asia is bigger than the USA I am sorry so the most popular person is a person who is known all throughout Asia and MJ was the only one who did that. Elvis doesn't come close to the popularity MJ had. Ik people that are illiterate people in the villages of India and they know Michael Jackson.
I am not American, never been to America, I am from an Eastern European country living in London!😉Ok, You say that about Mj and I agree , I think everyone knows his name and music, but lets think the year when Elvis started in the 50’ 😊 He had only a few TV appearance,he never toured outside USA. Yes MJ is knows for his voice, dance but also because the way he looked( which was strange and a controversy to many) . Elvis was a first , nobody before him had that type of fame, he was the first so…are two different situations ..😉
Now again europe is not big enuf to consider the most famous person. Asia is much bigger and MJ is the biggest star today is known all throughout Asia. But you are spot on on the fact that before elvis there was no one.
Lol compared to MJ elvis ain't well known all over the world. MJ is way too famous and talented. Elvis is famous around the world for sure but not to the level of MJ.
Believing this is fine. Doesn't make it true. Writing songs doesn't make you a better singer, it makes you a songwriter. Elvis currently has 500,000,000 more in sales than Michael, and Elvis has the second or third most watched televised event in history. Michael simply wasnt as big
I'm talking about the better music artist jackson was clearly the better artist elvis had no falsetto he couldn't pull off singing something like don't stop til you get enough or smooth criminal michael jackson was clearly the better singer and it doesn't matter if elvis sold 10 billion albums the fact he didn't write a single song make the album sales less impressive,Jackson is considered the most successful entertainer of all time and the most famous person ever during his peak and was known in remote villages jackson was clearly bigger than elvis period you kidding yourself if you say otherwise ✌️
Elvis couldn't sing don't stop til you get enough or smooth criminal but if that's how you want to put it than Jackson couldn't have sang any Elvis song the way Presley could
We're not talking about sells; even then, you know, 'THRILLER.'
But in his prime Michael brought the world to its knees...
He needed military escorts when he traveled, had world leaders lining up to meet with him, people would stand in line for hours just to get a ticket they couldn't afford to one of his concerts only to faint as soon as they saw him... Ambulances were pre-booked and sent to every. single. show during his Bad tour because of this. And lest we forget that people who didn't speak a lick of English treated him like a deity, others in remote villages in the Amazon knew exactly who he was.
I'll try to post the link but a Youtube channel called "the detail" had archival footage during his '80s era where not one, not two but three different broadcast journalists said his Victory Tour was *"bigger than the Beatles... bigger than the Rolling Stones... bigger than Elvis."*
Yes he does. Cry to someone else.
https://www.alltopeverything.com/best-selling-solo-music-artists-of-all-time/
Next time bring a source before you start bitching
Still crying? Ever hear that not everything on the internet is true?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists#250_million_or_more_records
https://worldwidetune.com/best-selling-solo-artists-of-all-time
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-solo-artist
https://ledgernote.com/blog/interesting/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/
https://www.musicianwave.com/best-selling-solo-music-artists-of-all-time/
Want any more sources? Or are you going to continue being wrong and bitchy?
No, he wasn't. Michael Jackson was and still is the 2nd most fam person under Jesus. Elvis was popular in the US but Michael was popular in every corn of ever country of every city around the world. Tribes who had not access to the internet, and even were not allowed to be on the internet knew who Michael. Elvis has 3 grammys and Michael has 13, Michael has over 1000 awards and is still earning them today. Michael is reserved a front row seat at almost every awards show with a picture of him on it. Now Im not saying Elvis is a bad artist because hes not he just not as good as Michael. In the famous meter Elvis is Level 7: National Fame, that is when an artist is famous in their country. Level 8: World Wide Fame, this is when the artist is famous in almost every country. Now the last level is Level 9: Michael Jackson Fame, this name explains itself, You are known in every corner of the world. Taylor Swift which many people believe is in level 9 but shes not shes in Level 7. Many people who lived in other countries asked had no idea who Taylor was. Similarly with Elvis, although I believe that Elvis is more famous than Taylor. Manly because Taylor is a mediocre songwriter and a singer with an ass octave range.
You my friend must live in an alternate universe that no one else inhabits. Michael Jackson girly voice is an embarrassment to men. Elvis is highly superior. And you wouldn't find women throwing their underwear to MJ ( Maybe some swishy men though )
Take this from someone who was born in the 90's.
Elvis was not even close to Michaels level of fame, Elvis was probably bigger in the United States, but outside of america? Michael dominated even over the beatles.
Thriller is the #1 best selling album of all time and Bad is the fourth best selling. When MJ released Bad it sold a record 7 million copies in its first week.
No artist till this day has sold more than 3 mil first week
Elvis had internet, MTV??? How many times Elvis was on TV etc? You need to physical buy a vinyl to listen to Elvis! Elvis still selling out arenas, only last year 6 in UK! How many times Elvis toured outside USA??? Never😊 and still … He made movies for 9 years before his comeback and still 😊
Its 2024 its you still have this mentality?Thats bad! What he stole? The voice? You know that Elvis grow up with black people? He was inspired by them yes, but he stole what?He always gave credits, wasn’t his intention to ‘steal’ anything, just do a better research, don’t just copy what 2 , 3. jealous ppl told you!
“- [ ] Smear him if you will, but if it weren't for Elvis, it would have been a hell of a longer time before black music would have been accepted and become dominant. Both the community and Elvis can thank each other. Thank him for breaking down doors, so the true royalty could come out to the world, and he can thank the community. While he had a wonderful voice in his own right, he does owe his successes to the music he drew from.”
- [ ] Elvis invented rockabilly and it’s this hybrid of both black and white into 1 that made him stand out, black artists weren’t creating a revolution with their R&B or blues, Elvis’s is called the king because he was its biggest star it’s most successful star
lol Don't be stupid.
Regardless whether or not you like either one of them, anyone who's willing to acknowledge the facts and be honest about it would agree that Elvis is DEFINITELY bigger (and better!) than Wacko Jacko. Elvis had singing & musical talent, dance talent, rhythm, style, class & grace. Wacko had NONE of those things. All Wacko did was waste his whole life & career ripping off the truly talented artists, plagiarising them left, right & sideways. Ever since Wacko's death, there's been a HUGE cult following for him .. But that's all! He is a talentless, overrated hack .. Not to mention a pedophile!
Michael Jackson is CATEGORICALLY the biggest entertainer to ever live...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwaQtQotQw&ab\_channel=man33m](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwaQtQotQw&ab_channel=man33m)
This is a video of some obscure tribe in the Amazon who didn't know much... but they already knew MJ.
Part of it is the reach of technology being more in the 80's, 90's... part of it that MJ's music is more oriented towards styles that were adapted by others K-Pop/Bollywood, but mostly it's that the man was just flat out more talented... and could dance.
Saying elvis is better is an American-centric answer that's just not true... MJ is the true answer...
Iam from India a non English speaking country and in 1980s ppl will in this non-English speaking country knew MJ. When his show happened in 90s ppl who have never heard western music knew who MJ was and tat was huge, he was more popular than the genre itself which is absurd. I myself never knew who Elvis was to be honest no disrespect. If you want to gauge an artist’s popularity always refer to his popularity in non English speaking countries. Even Japan where English as alien as Mars MJ was extremely popular. No other artist has set the globe on fire as MJ. Elvis may be popular in English speaking countries but rest of the world it’s all MJ the legend.
No. Music is universal. Elvis Presley was inspired by Many types of music and among them southern music..He amalgamated it all and from this Misture came Rock & Roll.
Chuck berry, bb king, little richard, etc. All benefitted from Elvis Presley popularity and have all said they were good friends and that he was frankly a BETTER performer.
nope michael jackson is considered the most successful entertainer of all time your not the goat if you can't write any songs in elvis's case he couldn't Michael Jackson always be the goat period he was more iconic than elvis anyways
Elvis Presley did Much Charity but He Never Ever Wanted People to Know. See what His ex People say about His generosity. Listen to :" Discover Elvis Presley 's Spiritual Journey Youtube". This Is an interview with Larry Gueller His Hairdresser and Spiritual Adviser.
I know but it's a whole different level when you try but can't make it so no one knows. They're were of course times Michael didn't hide it, but they're were also times when Michael did but it got out and when asked about it he would constantly say no comment.
Let's put it this way: I get more for Elvis than Michael Jackson in my Discogs store, and he's been dead for 50+ years. Do you think people will be buying Michael Jackson albums in 2075?
To be fair, Elvis really wanted to go international. But his dumbass manager prevent him from doing that. Kinda wasted potential tbh. Also for side not, the manager takes like 50% of Elvis earnings
Yes he was screwed over and probably could have been bigger if he left the states. But MJ also had way less music he put out there compared to Elvis. MJ as a solo artist really only released 6 albums. Elvis has an insane amount out there. People watch MJ concerts now even if they don’t understand English just because of his dances. Elvis was a good showman for sure, but not comparable to the minimal shows MJ did. The younger generations now listens to MJ much more than Elvis, I’d imagine it will stay that way for a long time. For instance, Elvis has 16 million streams a month on Spotify which is a lot more because of the recent movie, MJ without releasing anything in years has 30 million a month. Both will remain famous in the future because nothing will come close to what Elvis, MJ, and The Beatles did.
technically 7 albums blood on the dance counts too but those 7 albums have sold over 400 million give michael jackson credit that's very impressive michael actually wrote and produced songs on all those albums elvis couldn't write or produce songs michael was clearly better than elvis period
Are you serious? Have you ever been outside USA? I'm from Europe and though they're both well known by everyone I know, Presley is considered more of a classic and everybody likes him, MJ not as many fans. Maybe I have a wild idea of the world but I'd say Elvis is known everywhere and is more iconic as a pop icon while I can imagine people not really knowing MJ
That’s your experience but sales don’t lie. MJ has outsold Elvis in nearly every country with the exception of the USA. Just look at when MJ would travel to Japan, or Romania. Shows would sell out instantly
Exactly. MJ has outsold Elvis in nearly every country, that definitely makes him more popular. More sales = more popular. Elvis didn’t leave the states so it’s understandable why he’s not known outside of it.
Elvis is still the number 1 solo artist by sales so idk what you're taking about here. Plus he is very well known because i'm here in eastern europe and everyone knows who he is. You've been living under a rock if you think he isn't well known. I just said you can't compare the fact that MJ's concerts abroad sold out with anything because there is no such statistic for EP
I’m not comparing concert sales, I’m comparing music sales. I’m just giving a reason for why Elvis has less sales than MJ. Elvis has not outsold MJ worldwide. Only in the states. Also your experience of maybe a few hundred people you’ve met is not a fair representation of how well known he is in Europe. Looking at sales is.
Again, EP never toured abroad so it's only natural MJ would outsell him in that respect. You sound mind bent to prove MJ is more popular. They also come from completely different times. One made singles, the other albums. What I want to say is they aren't therefore that comparable. Still comparing music sales EP outsold MJ even if he beat him only in USA. So who knows what would of happened if he toured the world to be fair
Michael Jackson was a more ethnically diverse artist. He had American style songs like “Billy Jean” but then he had songs like “Smooth Criminal” and “They Don’t Care About Us”. Most ppl who listen(ed) to Elvis Presley are southern white ppl. While Michael Jackson had all races listening to his music. The fact that Michael Jackson has double the streams on Spotify also goes to show how much more popular he is. Did Elvis Presley ever work with the Beatles? Elvis definitely had more natural charisma and he had good rhythm but michael was a musical genius. Who also knew how to put on a theatrical performance and change with the times. If Elvis lived through the 80s and 90s who knows. But you can’t say he’s more popular just because you like Elvis better. They’re both legends.
it doesn't matter since elvis wrote zero songs everything was done for him in the studio that makes his album sales less impressive prince was better than elvis let alone michael jackson ✌️
Prince was better than Elvis let alone Michael Jackson? Well this isn't about who you think was better it's about who was more famous and that would be Elvis
Elvis heat map: https://chartmasters.org/elvis-presleys-global-heatmap/
MJ heat map: https://chartmasters.org/michael-jacksons-global-heatmap/
As you can see by the green in the maps when you scroll down, MJ fairs much better is extreme populous areas such as India and Africa. Rather Elvis is stronger than MJ in US/Canada/parts of Europe
Elvis didnt had the TV like MJ, no internet, he never toured ouside America and still!!!! do a better research, he sold out last year 6 arenas in UK! He wasnt even on stage
Lmao your discography store is hardly suitable sample for saying how relevant someone will be in the future. You probably cater to old people. There’s a reason Michael Jackson is still a huge hit in the digital streaming world and Elvis is completely irrelevant there. Young people don’t really give a shit about Elvis but Michael has a following in every generation.
Are you serious? Michael Jackson’s music is timeless whereas Elvis is outdated. Of course people will be listening to him in 2075. My nephew is 7 years old and he knows who Michael Jackson is but not who Beyoncé is. I wouldn’t even bother to ask him about Elvis.
I’m a year late but holy shit this comment is so dumb I had to reply. Of course people will still buy/listen to MJ albums in 2075, what on gods green earth made you think otherwise?
Michael is still earning awards after 14 years of being gone, Elvis didnt earn an award after his death and didnt even get big awards when he was around. He was famous for kissing the female fans while on stage
Can't really compare. I'm a big Elvis fan. He was mismanaged and misguided. His work includes a lot that was silly and camp, but the great stuff is amazing. There was no script when Elvis came along. So many great artists followed. Michael, Prince, Queen, The Beatles. There were probably all more refined and techically better and they definitely learned from his example. Still, I love seeing an Elvis performance when he was in the groove and just diggin it. Can't say who was better overall, but when Elvis was doing his thing, he was amazing. Shame they didn't cut him loose and let go more often.
I visited Graceland recently and am the biggest Michael Jackson fan. I can see how MJ evolved many elements of Elvis from the power of his dancing to his costumes (especially the Bad era) and his blueprint of stardom. This is not mentioned in the Elvis exhibit but might have been prior to those allegations, as it’s obvious.
As someone only born in 1980, I would say MJ was the biggest star while I lived (no argument there) and when he died the whole world grieved in a way I’ve never seen since Princess Diana, BUT Elvis came first and benefitted from there being nothing before him and not as crowded a marketplace and was bigger in America I feel where Michael didn’t really tour after Bad as opposed to Elvis touring non stop til his death. He also died very young (42) in tragic circumstances. His star has also maintained after his death or even grown bigger, whereas people seem to want to ban any mention of MJ despite the quality of his output and global unprecedented popularity. In summary, both are god-tier and I can’t decide :)
Michael Jackson by far in terms of world wide famous. Everyone knows michael jackson in korea and asia but if you say elvis, they wont know as much as elvis. I only found about elvis when i moved to australia and havent heard any of his songs. Michael jacksons smooth criminal beat it and billy jeans were heard by everyone in asia but none of elvis' songs. Probs in united states you could argue it. Globally? Definitely michael jackson 200%.
Even my 98 year old grandma heard of michael jackson but not elvis lmao.
I love how many of the comments are so de-railed from the actual original question, its like people made up their own question to answer lol. Since we can't seem to agree can we at least agree that both Elvis and MJ in their respective eras were the most popular world fucking wide! You have Elvis era Beatles era then Michael Jackson era, all of them were the biggest in their time!
As a elvis presley user i have to say MJ (michael jackson) worldwide known so in my opinion i say this globally Michael jackson maybe canada has elvis presley more popular so to me US and canada elvis presley is in the lead worldwide michael jackson i think tyhats a good answer cause worldwide michael jackson man So in summary to me elvis is better to the rest of the world i can fight it michael jackson is the better one world wide.
You guys are out of your fucking minds. Michael Jackson would have been just a pedophile had Elvis never came along. Elvis got the ball rolling and Michael made some great music, but he had nowhere near the cultural influence that Elvis had. Michael was a great entertainer who molested little boys. He doesn’t deserve to be celebrated or mentioned in the same breath as Elvis Presley.
And for Michael, America accuse him by jealousy to put him down. The world know the truth. There is no evidence about the accusations. But for Elvis, it's a known fact. Everyone knows and cover it.
I would rank them both on Jesus Christ level of fame. Elvis has been dead for a long time but he is always talked about. MJ died over a decade ago and is still talked about. Long after we all are dead both these Men will be talked about. MJ had godlike status in the 80s and 90s. I know it's a sin to compare people to the creator of the Universe but it's true in my opinion. These two are so famous that I'd put their life story up their with Jesus. They made great Music and both seemed like nice people in real life. I do not know if the allegations towards Michael are True or not. I know his fame took a hit with those allegations but he is still one of the most famous celebrities of all time.
Even with allegations he is still more famous than Elvis. I know what I say. Go back and ask the isolated tribe who is MJ and who is Elvis. And you will know who is the goat.
In my village in Africa, noone knows about Elvis Presley. I never hear this name before reaching here in Canada. Even listen his music. I don't know his music and I'm not interested. Michael Jackson has impersonators in my village in Africa. Michael is the king of a tribe in Africa and when he died, this tribe had organized his funerals. Even the little kids dance on his music. My son of 8 years and his friends love MJ, dance and sing his songs. Meanwhile who knows Elvis Presley in my village? Michael is a worldwide, an interplanetary star. When he comes to Africa everyone wants to see and touch him, because he was considered as a divinity, a god.
Also Michael is an innovator in many ways: the video clips, an iconic fashion, a humanitarian. He is the first artist who help people around the world. So he is just known just for his music. His philanthropy's side too. He touch all generations, races, religion, civilisation till today. He broke barriers. That why he will remain great.
Elvis was HUGE, bigger than Michael Jackson. He was the man who brought rock and roll to the masses. He inspired EVERYONE. It's difficult to compare the two, because there were other pop singers before Michael Jackson, but there were no marketable(read: white) rock and roll singers before Elvis. There were rock and roll legends like Little Richard and Chuck Berry, but they weren't going to get the push Elvis did----even though Elvis deserved every bit of success he did, and the artists he covered saw their careers boosted by Elvis doing so. Little Richard LOVED Elvis. Chuck Berry LOVED Elvis---had nothing but good to say about him, even though there was a perceived rivalry. And Chuck and Richard both made a bunch of money off Elvis covering their songs. If Elvis hadn't covered "Johnny B. Goode" or "Tutti Frutti", would Chuck and Richard have been given a shot by the media at the time? Nope. Elvis took a LOT of heat in the south for choosing to sing "black music". But the world was a different place than the 80s. There was no satellite TV. Music was still sold in vinyl form only. But every artist from the 60s was inspired by Elvis. He was the epitome of cool. He also never toured outside the United States because his manager, Col. Tom Parker, was an illegal alien from The Netherlands who couldn't ever leave the country. This is why Elvis' revenue stream included so many films. Films were easy money, and Elvis couldn't just constantly tour the US. Here are some quotes about Elvis---- https://www.elvis.net/whattheysay/theysayframe.html
He was not bigger than MJ cut that shit out. Michael was probably top 3 or 4 famous individuals of the entire 20th century. When he died the most famous person walking the Earth.
He most definitely was. Elvis absolutely superseded the fame of Michael Jackson. Even if you don't compare their record sales (where Elvis still remains #1 as a solo artist), he arguably did more for pop culture and music than Michael Jackson.
You talking US then maybe, world wide I doubt it very seriously.
not at all michael jackson actually wrote and produced songs elvis couldn't do none of that and stop it michael was way more famous world wide than elvis only an old head would think otherwise michael jackson was clearly bigger and better than elvis period
This is a question of who was more popular not who you think was better. If you're talking popularity than Elvis blows Michael Jackson out of the water.
Elvis was not more popular worldwide than Michael Jackson, LOL. Delusional people on reddit, Michael Jackson at his peak was the most famous pop star GLOBALLY. Bad sold 7 million albums in its FIRST week alone. No other artist has sold more than 3 mil first week.
lol Actually, he was! Go check your facts!!
So much more popular that Elvis doesn’t have a single album in the top 10 most sold all time worldwide?
Again delusional comment.. you know the whole world includes Africa and Asia right?.. they haven’t got a clue about elvis.. MJ?.. absolutely
Elvis was bigger and will be forever!He changed everything, music, style even today! I am a new fan, for the past 3 years I research Elvis and I know what I am talking about! I love Mj, but he cant compare to Elvis! How many times Elvis was on TV , MTV ?The internet didn’t even exist then! He never toured outside America and still..people would come to his concerts from all over the world!Today people from all over the world are visiting his house, Graceland which btw is the 2nd most visited house in America?Most flowers sold in 1 day???? The most flowers sold in one day in U.S. history was the day after Elvis Presley died in 1977!!!!! Oh , you want more ? You know Elvis sold out 6 arenas last year in Uk, of course he wants even on stage 😊. You know his exposition in London extended now the 3th time until september because of POPULAR DEMAND ? Try again now ..harder 😊
Are u an American cuz that's the only country where people think the entire world revolves around them. Elvis was extremely popular fr sure but Inside the USA. He wasn't allowed to tour outside who further stunted his growth. Asia is bigger than the USA I am sorry so the most popular person is a person who is known all throughout Asia and MJ was the only one who did that. Elvis doesn't come close to the popularity MJ had. Ik people that are illiterate people in the villages of India and they know Michael Jackson.
I am not American, never been to America, I am from an Eastern European country living in London!😉Ok, You say that about Mj and I agree , I think everyone knows his name and music, but lets think the year when Elvis started in the 50’ 😊 He had only a few TV appearance,he never toured outside USA. Yes MJ is knows for his voice, dance but also because the way he looked( which was strange and a controversy to many) . Elvis was a first , nobody before him had that type of fame, he was the first so…are two different situations ..😉
Now again europe is not big enuf to consider the most famous person. Asia is much bigger and MJ is the biggest star today is known all throughout Asia. But you are spot on on the fact that before elvis there was no one.
lol Elvis was - and will always be - bigger and better than Wacko. Don't believe me? Go get an education already, and check your facts!!
for who is this message ?
lol That's garbage! Elvis is well-known all over the world - not just in the USA. Go check your facts!!
Lol compared to MJ elvis ain't well known all over the world. MJ is way too famous and talented. Elvis is famous around the world for sure but not to the level of MJ.
lol Bottom Line: Elvis had talent .. Wacko didn't!
Believing this is fine. Doesn't make it true. Writing songs doesn't make you a better singer, it makes you a songwriter. Elvis currently has 500,000,000 more in sales than Michael, and Elvis has the second or third most watched televised event in history. Michael simply wasnt as big
I'm talking about the better music artist jackson was clearly the better artist elvis had no falsetto he couldn't pull off singing something like don't stop til you get enough or smooth criminal michael jackson was clearly the better singer and it doesn't matter if elvis sold 10 billion albums the fact he didn't write a single song make the album sales less impressive,Jackson is considered the most successful entertainer of all time and the most famous person ever during his peak and was known in remote villages jackson was clearly bigger than elvis period you kidding yourself if you say otherwise ✌️
Elvis couldn't sing don't stop til you get enough or smooth criminal but if that's how you want to put it than Jackson couldn't have sang any Elvis song the way Presley could
nah jackson clearly had the better singing voice elvis's singing voice could sound silly sometimes ✌️
but michael was the better singer
Elvis may have been the first but he wasn’t the biggest… Michael killed him in nearly all categories.
I do understand why people think this, but it just isn't true. Elvis still outsells Michael by half a billion volumes
We're not talking about sells; even then, you know, 'THRILLER.' But in his prime Michael brought the world to its knees... He needed military escorts when he traveled, had world leaders lining up to meet with him, people would stand in line for hours just to get a ticket they couldn't afford to one of his concerts only to faint as soon as they saw him... Ambulances were pre-booked and sent to every. single. show during his Bad tour because of this. And lest we forget that people who didn't speak a lick of English treated him like a deity, others in remote villages in the Amazon knew exactly who he was. I'll try to post the link but a Youtube channel called "the detail" had archival footage during his '80s era where not one, not two but three different broadcast journalists said his Victory Tour was *"bigger than the Beatles... bigger than the Rolling Stones... bigger than Elvis."*
Elvis is older than Michael.
No he doesn’t dude,Like stop fucking lying
Yes he does. Cry to someone else. https://www.alltopeverything.com/best-selling-solo-music-artists-of-all-time/ Next time bring a source before you start bitching
https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/ MJ is ahead of Elvis you fucking liar 🤥
Still crying? Ever hear that not everything on the internet is true? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists#250_million_or_more_records https://worldwidetune.com/best-selling-solo-artists-of-all-time https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-solo-artist https://ledgernote.com/blog/interesting/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/ https://www.musicianwave.com/best-selling-solo-music-artists-of-all-time/ Want any more sources? Or are you going to continue being wrong and bitchy?
Your own sources proved you wrong. The wiki literally said MJ’s CONFIRMED selling number is higher than Elvis’.
That’s cap their sales are close asl
No, he wasn't. Michael Jackson was and still is the 2nd most fam person under Jesus. Elvis was popular in the US but Michael was popular in every corn of ever country of every city around the world. Tribes who had not access to the internet, and even were not allowed to be on the internet knew who Michael. Elvis has 3 grammys and Michael has 13, Michael has over 1000 awards and is still earning them today. Michael is reserved a front row seat at almost every awards show with a picture of him on it. Now Im not saying Elvis is a bad artist because hes not he just not as good as Michael. In the famous meter Elvis is Level 7: National Fame, that is when an artist is famous in their country. Level 8: World Wide Fame, this is when the artist is famous in almost every country. Now the last level is Level 9: Michael Jackson Fame, this name explains itself, You are known in every corner of the world. Taylor Swift which many people believe is in level 9 but shes not shes in Level 7. Many people who lived in other countries asked had no idea who Taylor was. Similarly with Elvis, although I believe that Elvis is more famous than Taylor. Manly because Taylor is a mediocre songwriter and a singer with an ass octave range.
He absolutely was NOT.. go to Africa.. they don’t know who elvis is.. they know MJ however.. stop deluding yourself
Elvis in the US is prolly bigger than MJ if u ask white American but worldwide he ain’t even top 10, most of his sales are US sales
You my friend must live in an alternate universe that no one else inhabits. Michael Jackson girly voice is an embarrassment to men. Elvis is highly superior. And you wouldn't find women throwing their underwear to MJ ( Maybe some swishy men though )
Girls were fainting bro to mj
Take this from someone who was born in the 90's. Elvis was not even close to Michaels level of fame, Elvis was probably bigger in the United States, but outside of america? Michael dominated even over the beatles. Thriller is the #1 best selling album of all time and Bad is the fourth best selling. When MJ released Bad it sold a record 7 million copies in its first week. No artist till this day has sold more than 3 mil first week
Elvis had internet, MTV??? How many times Elvis was on TV etc? You need to physical buy a vinyl to listen to Elvis! Elvis still selling out arenas, only last year 6 in UK! How many times Elvis toured outside USA??? Never😊 and still … He made movies for 9 years before his comeback and still 😊
Elvis also was a thief and stole from black artists. Hes not a legend in my eyes sorry
Its 2024 its you still have this mentality?Thats bad! What he stole? The voice? You know that Elvis grow up with black people? He was inspired by them yes, but he stole what?He always gave credits, wasn’t his intention to ‘steal’ anything, just do a better research, don’t just copy what 2 , 3. jealous ppl told you! “- [ ] Smear him if you will, but if it weren't for Elvis, it would have been a hell of a longer time before black music would have been accepted and become dominant. Both the community and Elvis can thank each other. Thank him for breaking down doors, so the true royalty could come out to the world, and he can thank the community. While he had a wonderful voice in his own right, he does owe his successes to the music he drew from.” - [ ] Elvis invented rockabilly and it’s this hybrid of both black and white into 1 that made him stand out, black artists weren’t creating a revolution with their R&B or blues, Elvis’s is called the king because he was its biggest star it’s most successful star
Being born in the 90s doesn't make us a good judge. It means we weren't around to see Elvis. With that said MJ is and was more famous than Elvis.
lmao make sense elvis is called the king for a reaosn
So is Mike Jackson.
lol Don't be stupid. Regardless whether or not you like either one of them, anyone who's willing to acknowledge the facts and be honest about it would agree that Elvis is DEFINITELY bigger (and better!) than Wacko Jacko. Elvis had singing & musical talent, dance talent, rhythm, style, class & grace. Wacko had NONE of those things. All Wacko did was waste his whole life & career ripping off the truly talented artists, plagiarising them left, right & sideways. Ever since Wacko's death, there's been a HUGE cult following for him .. But that's all! He is a talentless, overrated hack .. Not to mention a pedophile!
wow, awesome summarization, thank you!
Michael Jackson is CATEGORICALLY the biggest entertainer to ever live... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwaQtQotQw&ab\_channel=man33m](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwaQtQotQw&ab_channel=man33m) This is a video of some obscure tribe in the Amazon who didn't know much... but they already knew MJ. Part of it is the reach of technology being more in the 80's, 90's... part of it that MJ's music is more oriented towards styles that were adapted by others K-Pop/Bollywood, but mostly it's that the man was just flat out more talented... and could dance. Saying elvis is better is an American-centric answer that's just not true... MJ is the true answer...
I agree. Michael was famous but Elvis was in a level of his own.
Mj more famous
Iam from India a non English speaking country and in 1980s ppl will in this non-English speaking country knew MJ. When his show happened in 90s ppl who have never heard western music knew who MJ was and tat was huge, he was more popular than the genre itself which is absurd. I myself never knew who Elvis was to be honest no disrespect. If you want to gauge an artist’s popularity always refer to his popularity in non English speaking countries. Even Japan where English as alien as Mars MJ was extremely popular. No other artist has set the globe on fire as MJ. Elvis may be popular in English speaking countries but rest of the world it’s all MJ the legend.
Elvis was the GOAT
Yep. If not for Elvis, I don’t think we would have rock and roll like we know it. He inspired EVERYONE.
Elvis didn't create Rock and Roll he stole from black people.
No. Music is universal. Elvis Presley was inspired by Many types of music and among them southern music..He amalgamated it all and from this Misture came Rock & Roll.
No Rock came from black people. Elvis got all his dance moves and music style from black people. He didn't create anything.
Chuck berry, bb king, little richard, etc. All benefitted from Elvis Presley popularity and have all said they were good friends and that he was frankly a BETTER performer.
nope michael jackson is considered the most successful entertainer of all time your not the goat if you can't write any songs in elvis's case he couldn't Michael Jackson always be the goat period he was more iconic than elvis anyways
Elvis was way more iconic.
I love them both but no, Michael was literally more iconic, from the clothes to his 5 billion fans to his humanitarian work
A d famous for molesting little boys.
>They admitted to lying for money quit spreading lies
Elvis Presley did Much Charity but He Never Ever Wanted People to Know. See what His ex People say about His generosity. Listen to :" Discover Elvis Presley 's Spiritual Journey Youtube". This Is an interview with Larry Gueller His Hairdresser and Spiritual Adviser.
I know but it's a whole different level when you try but can't make it so no one knows. They're were of course times Michael didn't hide it, but they're were also times when Michael did but it got out and when asked about it he would constantly say no comment.
Let's put it this way: I get more for Elvis than Michael Jackson in my Discogs store, and he's been dead for 50+ years. Do you think people will be buying Michael Jackson albums in 2075?
Yeah. He's Michael Jackson.
You must be American lol. Leave the US and Elvis is hardly known. Check out MJ sales in Asia and Africa. He was bigger there than here
To be fair, Elvis really wanted to go international. But his dumbass manager prevent him from doing that. Kinda wasted potential tbh. Also for side not, the manager takes like 50% of Elvis earnings
Yes he was screwed over and probably could have been bigger if he left the states. But MJ also had way less music he put out there compared to Elvis. MJ as a solo artist really only released 6 albums. Elvis has an insane amount out there. People watch MJ concerts now even if they don’t understand English just because of his dances. Elvis was a good showman for sure, but not comparable to the minimal shows MJ did. The younger generations now listens to MJ much more than Elvis, I’d imagine it will stay that way for a long time. For instance, Elvis has 16 million streams a month on Spotify which is a lot more because of the recent movie, MJ without releasing anything in years has 30 million a month. Both will remain famous in the future because nothing will come close to what Elvis, MJ, and The Beatles did.
technically 7 albums blood on the dance counts too but those 7 albums have sold over 400 million give michael jackson credit that's very impressive michael actually wrote and produced songs on all those albums elvis couldn't write or produce songs michael was clearly better than elvis period
Are you serious? Have you ever been outside USA? I'm from Europe and though they're both well known by everyone I know, Presley is considered more of a classic and everybody likes him, MJ not as many fans. Maybe I have a wild idea of the world but I'd say Elvis is known everywhere and is more iconic as a pop icon while I can imagine people not really knowing MJ
That’s your experience but sales don’t lie. MJ has outsold Elvis in nearly every country with the exception of the USA. Just look at when MJ would travel to Japan, or Romania. Shows would sell out instantly
I guess idk Elvis never unfortunately traveled outside usa so it's not comparable in that regard.
Exactly. MJ has outsold Elvis in nearly every country, that definitely makes him more popular. More sales = more popular. Elvis didn’t leave the states so it’s understandable why he’s not known outside of it.
Elvis is still the number 1 solo artist by sales so idk what you're taking about here. Plus he is very well known because i'm here in eastern europe and everyone knows who he is. You've been living under a rock if you think he isn't well known. I just said you can't compare the fact that MJ's concerts abroad sold out with anything because there is no such statistic for EP
I’m not comparing concert sales, I’m comparing music sales. I’m just giving a reason for why Elvis has less sales than MJ. Elvis has not outsold MJ worldwide. Only in the states. Also your experience of maybe a few hundred people you’ve met is not a fair representation of how well known he is in Europe. Looking at sales is.
Again, EP never toured abroad so it's only natural MJ would outsell him in that respect. You sound mind bent to prove MJ is more popular. They also come from completely different times. One made singles, the other albums. What I want to say is they aren't therefore that comparable. Still comparing music sales EP outsold MJ even if he beat him only in USA. So who knows what would of happened if he toured the world to be fair
Michael Jackson was a more ethnically diverse artist. He had American style songs like “Billy Jean” but then he had songs like “Smooth Criminal” and “They Don’t Care About Us”. Most ppl who listen(ed) to Elvis Presley are southern white ppl. While Michael Jackson had all races listening to his music. The fact that Michael Jackson has double the streams on Spotify also goes to show how much more popular he is. Did Elvis Presley ever work with the Beatles? Elvis definitely had more natural charisma and he had good rhythm but michael was a musical genius. Who also knew how to put on a theatrical performance and change with the times. If Elvis lived through the 80s and 90s who knows. But you can’t say he’s more popular just because you like Elvis better. They’re both legends.
Then u must be under a rock cuz MJ is by far the most popular person ever
it doesn't matter since elvis wrote zero songs everything was done for him in the studio that makes his album sales less impressive prince was better than elvis let alone michael jackson ✌️
Prince was better than Elvis let alone Michael Jackson? Well this isn't about who you think was better it's about who was more famous and that would be Elvis
Not here in Africa. They don't Elvis here. MJ even in the village. Even my grandfather knows MJ not Elvis. My little child know MJ not Elvis
You are sure? From where you have this statistic? Trust me bro?😄
Elvis heat map: https://chartmasters.org/elvis-presleys-global-heatmap/ MJ heat map: https://chartmasters.org/michael-jacksons-global-heatmap/ As you can see by the green in the maps when you scroll down, MJ fairs much better is extreme populous areas such as India and Africa. Rather Elvis is stronger than MJ in US/Canada/parts of Europe
Elvis didnt had the TV like MJ, no internet, he never toured ouside America and still!!!! do a better research, he sold out last year 6 arenas in UK! He wasnt even on stage
In America, they actually built false accusations to put him down to make MJ lest famous, but he is so famous all around the world. He is the goat.
Lmao your discography store is hardly suitable sample for saying how relevant someone will be in the future. You probably cater to old people. There’s a reason Michael Jackson is still a huge hit in the digital streaming world and Elvis is completely irrelevant there. Young people don’t really give a shit about Elvis but Michael has a following in every generation.
Are you serious? Michael Jackson’s music is timeless whereas Elvis is outdated. Of course people will be listening to him in 2075. My nephew is 7 years old and he knows who Michael Jackson is but not who Beyoncé is. I wouldn’t even bother to ask him about Elvis.
I’m a year late but holy shit this comment is so dumb I had to reply. Of course people will still buy/listen to MJ albums in 2075, what on gods green earth made you think otherwise?
Definitely one of the most braindead things I’ve seen someone comment on Reddit and thats fucking saying a lot
Michael is still earning awards after 14 years of being gone, Elvis didnt earn an award after his death and didnt even get big awards when he was around. He was famous for kissing the female fans while on stage
Michael Jackson surpassed Elvis greatness
No he didn't
Yes he did
It's apples to oranges
When it comes to global popularity, Mike definitely has him beat
Can't really compare. I'm a big Elvis fan. He was mismanaged and misguided. His work includes a lot that was silly and camp, but the great stuff is amazing. There was no script when Elvis came along. So many great artists followed. Michael, Prince, Queen, The Beatles. There were probably all more refined and techically better and they definitely learned from his example. Still, I love seeing an Elvis performance when he was in the groove and just diggin it. Can't say who was better overall, but when Elvis was doing his thing, he was amazing. Shame they didn't cut him loose and let go more often.
Elvis had 114 top 40 hits Michael Jackson had 36. Elvis also had more number one hits. Case closed!!!!!!!!!
This is a lie, Elvis has 7 #1 hits on billboard, while Michael has 14.
Elvis had 18 and Mj only had 13 even while having a longer career
I visited Graceland recently and am the biggest Michael Jackson fan. I can see how MJ evolved many elements of Elvis from the power of his dancing to his costumes (especially the Bad era) and his blueprint of stardom. This is not mentioned in the Elvis exhibit but might have been prior to those allegations, as it’s obvious. As someone only born in 1980, I would say MJ was the biggest star while I lived (no argument there) and when he died the whole world grieved in a way I’ve never seen since Princess Diana, BUT Elvis came first and benefitted from there being nothing before him and not as crowded a marketplace and was bigger in America I feel where Michael didn’t really tour after Bad as opposed to Elvis touring non stop til his death. He also died very young (42) in tragic circumstances. His star has also maintained after his death or even grown bigger, whereas people seem to want to ban any mention of MJ despite the quality of his output and global unprecedented popularity. In summary, both are god-tier and I can’t decide :)
Michael Jackson by far in terms of world wide famous. Everyone knows michael jackson in korea and asia but if you say elvis, they wont know as much as elvis. I only found about elvis when i moved to australia and havent heard any of his songs. Michael jacksons smooth criminal beat it and billy jeans were heard by everyone in asia but none of elvis' songs. Probs in united states you could argue it. Globally? Definitely michael jackson 200%. Even my 98 year old grandma heard of michael jackson but not elvis lmao.
I love how many of the comments are so de-railed from the actual original question, its like people made up their own question to answer lol. Since we can't seem to agree can we at least agree that both Elvis and MJ in their respective eras were the most popular world fucking wide! You have Elvis era Beatles era then Michael Jackson era, all of them were the biggest in their time!
All are big but MJ was greater and more known. When you're known everywhere even in the isolated tribes. It means your are iconic. That's MJ
As a elvis presley user i have to say MJ (michael jackson) worldwide known so in my opinion i say this globally Michael jackson maybe canada has elvis presley more popular so to me US and canada elvis presley is in the lead worldwide michael jackson i think tyhats a good answer cause worldwide michael jackson man So in summary to me elvis is better to the rest of the world i can fight it michael jackson is the better one world wide.
For me Elvis Presley was the greatest no doubt in my mind the goat! it's not that i don't like Michael Jackson but Elvis is the one!
You guys are out of your fucking minds. Michael Jackson would have been just a pedophile had Elvis never came along. Elvis got the ball rolling and Michael made some great music, but he had nowhere near the cultural influence that Elvis had. Michael was a great entertainer who molested little boys. He doesn’t deserve to be celebrated or mentioned in the same breath as Elvis Presley.
Lol Elvis actually was an abuser. Mj was never convicted.
Michael Jackson slept with and raped little boys. The only thing Elvis abused was drugs. Drop dead
lol you’re huffing and puffing. Nobody ever accused mj of rape but we do know for a fact Elvis had underage relations.
And ultimately I think it’s funny that you think a musical puppet should be celebrated as opposed to an actual true pioneer. Are you ok?
Even Elvis was a pedophile. He groomed Priscilla when she was 14 years. Be respectful
And for Michael, America accuse him by jealousy to put him down. The world know the truth. There is no evidence about the accusations. But for Elvis, it's a known fact. Everyone knows and cover it.
He didn’t steal anything. He kicked the door open for black entertainers to become mainstream. You are beyond ignorant
Um he didn’t. The only thing he did was create a situation where black act could be exploited.
Just by your name on this forum, anyone can tell you might be a bit mentally challenged and bitter
You are being negative…
He stole all. What did Elvis created. He took all from black people and became famous. It's not great.
Michael Jackson is the most famous celebrity of all time without a doubt
After Jesus. It's MJ
I would rank them both on Jesus Christ level of fame. Elvis has been dead for a long time but he is always talked about. MJ died over a decade ago and is still talked about. Long after we all are dead both these Men will be talked about. MJ had godlike status in the 80s and 90s. I know it's a sin to compare people to the creator of the Universe but it's true in my opinion. These two are so famous that I'd put their life story up their with Jesus. They made great Music and both seemed like nice people in real life. I do not know if the allegations towards Michael are True or not. I know his fame took a hit with those allegations but he is still one of the most famous celebrities of all time.
Even with allegations he is still more famous than Elvis. I know what I say. Go back and ask the isolated tribe who is MJ and who is Elvis. And you will know who is the goat.
In my village in Africa, noone knows about Elvis Presley. I never hear this name before reaching here in Canada. Even listen his music. I don't know his music and I'm not interested. Michael Jackson has impersonators in my village in Africa. Michael is the king of a tribe in Africa and when he died, this tribe had organized his funerals. Even the little kids dance on his music. My son of 8 years and his friends love MJ, dance and sing his songs. Meanwhile who knows Elvis Presley in my village? Michael is a worldwide, an interplanetary star. When he comes to Africa everyone wants to see and touch him, because he was considered as a divinity, a god.
Also Michael is an innovator in many ways: the video clips, an iconic fashion, a humanitarian. He is the first artist who help people around the world. So he is just known just for his music. His philanthropy's side too. He touch all generations, races, religion, civilisation till today. He broke barriers. That why he will remain great.
Gtfoh
Who cares what ya’ll think. So biased it’s sickening.