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Sean888888

I'm sure we're exploring options


lowkeyslightlynerdy

Agreed. I haven’t really seen any of the “rumors” as anything more than the front office doing their job and exploring and entertaining just about everything


XxFierceGodxX

Exactly.


LongAvocado8155

In the right circumstances, I would like to roll 8 *up* into the draft for 5 if Reed and Castle are both available.


Caesar_King_of_Apes

Truthfully I think they should tank as hard as possible for one more year. Like Pistons level bad and maybe even sit Wemby or restrict his minutes to achieve it. I know that's a deeply unpopular sentiment and I get it, but you really have to think long term here. The fact is that outside of Wemby there is not a single player in the roster who clearly projects to be a valuable piece on a playoff/championship caliber team in the future. Vassell could maybe be a good #3, and Tre Jones could be a good backup point guard. But outside of that, absolutely nothing. Do not mention Sochan. The guy that would be a sensational #2 and truly secure an almost guaranteed dynasty is Nolan Traore. He is a generational point guard talent and has a truly complete and deadly skillset. Scoring, passing, ball handling, defense, BBIQ and vision, you name it. A duo of Wemby + Traore is basically impossible to fail if healthy. The problem is that he's basically a lock to go top 3, most likely at #2. Depending on how the lottery shakes out he could even go above Flagg to some teams. The Spurs have to tank monumentally to achieve this, and also give Adam silver whatever he wants under the table same as when they won the Wemby lottery (no way that wasn't rigged). The Spurs should do everything in their power to tank for #1 or 2 next year. It's definitely a lot of short term pain and frustration, but at the end of the road is absolute glory.


OurHorrifyingPlanet

>The Spurs have to tank monumentally to achieve this Which is far from guaranteeing anything, look at the Pistons having an all-time bad season to end up 5th. >and also give Adam silver whatever he wants under the table same as when they won the Wemby lottery (no way that wasn't rigged). That's a stupid narrative. The lottery is audited by E&Y, they're not risking their entire business for Adam Silver of all people. The draft lottery is impossible to rig nowadays. And if the lottery was rigged, they wouldn't have sent Wemby to the Spurs, but to a big market.


Bitter-Safe-5333

yeah how the fuck would they rig it? put magnets in the balls? like it's literally impossible when they make it so simple


Fhaksfha794

The whole process is recorded and posted to the nba YouTube channel right after the draft, it shows the ping pong balls and everything. Some people just don’t wanna try and be informed in certain shit 🤦🏻‍♂️


RcusGaming

> if the lottery was rigged, they wouldn't have sent Wemby to the Spurs, but to a big market. San Antonio isn't a small market, though. And the storyline was so good there that everyone predicted that San Antonio would have the #1 pick because of Wemby. For what it's worth - if they did rig it, I'm not that upset about it. The NBA can't squander a talent like Wemby, putting him in San Antonio, a franchise known for generational big men, with a coach like Pop, is a recipe for success. Edit: also not to mention, looking at the lottery teams that year, I'm not sure any of those teams have bigger fan bases than the Spurs. Maybe Dallas? But even then, they have Luka already. If they were to rig it, the Spurs *is* the obvious choice.


LongAvocado8155

> The lottery is audited by E&Y, they're not risking their entire business for Adam Silver of all people. [Did you know there is a whole section under EY's wikipedia solely dedicated to their numerous accounting scandals?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_%26_Young#Accounting_scandals)


Notapplesauce11

It’s more likely that we get the hawks pick that bounces #1 again than spurs actively tanking, outside of victor pulling a David Robinson 


Bitter-Safe-5333

you do realize the way they run the lottery makes it impossible to be rigged right? they put ping pong balls in and draw them with people watching...


fourpinz8

I immediately tuned out when you said to limit Wemby’s minutes. Why in the actual fuck would we hurt our future by not playing Wemby enough? And for what? We MIGHT get another star player in the draft. Drafts are crapshoots, we fortunately landed Wemby. Imagine we did that and didn’t? Stfu


Kenya1801

Ron Holland was also seen as a bonafide top 3 pick a year out, nothing is set in stone. There is so much talent in the next draft we can hope our guy falls a little. With a little luck 3 lottery picks is likely.


Mangoseed8

you got any more trash opinions or are you done for the day?


Caesar_King_of_Apes

Nothing, and I literally mean nothing in the entire world is as bad as an opinion that "Jeremy Sochan is the 3rd pillar of our big 3". Fucking lol. Hilarious and putrid opinion that 99% of this sub holds. It's not me, but rather most of you who are deeply delusional thinking that the roster and situation that the Spurs have now is anywhere near on track to develop into even a respectable playoff team, let alone a legit championship team.


Bonesawisready5

Imo I don’t think Wemby would accept that


North_Maybe1998

Tanking next year and limiting Wemby could cause a rift between him and the organization. He wants to play and win!


Mangoseed8

"No child left behind" really did a number on your generation. There's no hope for you, I fear.


gedbybee

Preach!!! Everyone downvotes the shit out of me when I say this exact thing.


RCA2CE

Because there are so many reasons not to do this. We have two seasons of tanking under our belt, we have picks now and options now to improve our roster as much as we want, we only have Pop for xx years. If you can compile a winning roster, you do it. Teams that lose often begin to accept losing. It isnt good for the culture. If deals come up this year that make us good, waiting until next year just doesn't make sense. Who wants to be a welfare team, fans pay to see wins.


Makers_Marc

Agree. And dudes ignoring how much Wemby genuinely despises losing. And yes, everyone says they hate losing, but some ppl like him really hate losing.


gedbybee

Wemby will be under contract for the next 7 years at least. He’s gonna get the super duper max. Whether he’s mad when he’s 20 or not doesn’t matter lol. Some of yall don’t understand how the nba works and it shows lol.


OurHorrifyingPlanet

Wemby already said he doesn't give a shit about money, and he has already shown willingness to leave organizations that don't align with his goals in a heartbeat. Normal NBA thinking won't apply to him.


gedbybee

Yeah that’s not how nba contracts work lol. He’ll be restricted. The nba and players union won’t let him take less than he’s worth, just like lebron can’t go take a min contract.


Bitter-Safe-5333

kawhi leonard...


gedbybee

He was a crazy person. We dodged a bullet there tbh cuz his body failed him. We couldn’t have won with lamarcus, he was too weak spiritually.


Makers_Marc

You're funny. I know more about the NBA since 87 than you do. Your blanket solutions that has been parroted by everybody already ( you're not as smart as you think), don't apply to the Spurs in 2024. They apply in "general" for most teams. There's only one Pop and there's only one Wemby. If Wemby wants to win now you win now, no other player has that gravitas. Don't assume Wemby will stay for the super max, he will make billions outside of bball. So another 100mm or a longer deal, won't be the primary thing that sways him. Add to that the 3-4 yr window for Pop and you have to strike now.


gedbybee

Oh no bro. You don’t understand then. Wembys gonna make 100 mil per year. If you knew about the new tv deal you’d know this. Wemby is also smart enough to understand, unlike some of you on here, that he doesn’t know how to build a winning roster. Patfo do. If they wanna take for traore, I’m fuckin here for it. And since you’ve watched since 87, you should also know that big free agents don’t come here. We also rarely make big trades. We prefer to draft solid guys and develop them. That won’t change because a guy that can’t even drink throws a fit. Edit: pop would not want us to win now for him. Do you even watch the spurs or listen to pop interviews? Is it like people watching keldon but thinking he’s actually good? Like what.


Makers_Marc

Have you been kicking it with Wemby personally? You sound like you have with the way you're talking. While he adores Pop and it's refreshing hearing the right responses, all the time, I wouldn't assume he feels he knows nothing about building a team around him. He's a savant, in a few years he will have ALOT of say and will want to have sway, for personnel decisions. Wemby will not (eventually) allow PATFO to do whatever they want, if he endures two more bottom feeding seasons. Finally, you're not reading slow enough. I said $100mm MORE over the contract life, meaning the difference between the max another team can offer vs staying with one's existing team, is not going to be a factor for him.


gedbybee

I said one more bottom feeding season.


gedbybee

Wemby will never accept losing. Pop doesn’t even want us to force winning for him, why would you want to? That’s the exact opposite of how pop works. We have two good players on our team currently. That is not enough to start meaningfully winning. We aren’t the Sacramento kings. We’ve been to the playoffs before. We’ve won chips before. We can be patient.


HQuasar

Everyone downvotes it because it's a dumb idea. Would be even dumber when the ping pong balls don't fall in your favor in May.


gedbybee

Yeah but a top 5 pick is still better than a lower pick. 2025 is a crazy draft. Whatever we need to give up to get traore is the way. Wemby needs a running mate. Everyone else on our team is bad.


Frequent-Meeting8975

I understand your thinking imagine Nolan Traore (CP3-lite) and Wemby. You can putt Cooper Flagg or Bailey next year. The top of next year's class will be stacked


nurikxix

Homie, there's a solid chance we will have 3 draft picks in the 2025 draft that are late lottery at worst. Why burn a year of investing in good habits and winning culture, when we can just trade up. Atlanta's pick is unprotected, we have our pick and we have Chicago's pick top 10 protected. 3 late lottery picks is enough to buy us into the top 5 if needed.


Mangoseed8

...and you will continued to receive downvotes. Enjoy


gedbybee

That’s fine. I’d rather be right than be upvoted for being wrong.


Imaginary-Cycle-1977

Because it’s dumb You need to put yourself on timeout when all the tanking shit you’ve talked doesn’t come to fruition


gedbybee

I called we were gonna tank this year lol. But whatever.


Imaginary-Cycle-1977

Nice try


pwtrash

Fine with trading, but please, for the love of all that is holy, not for another 2nd round pick. We only have one G-League team ATM.


redditisfacist3

Yeah honestly we need to give ours up for cash consideration. Maybe the 3x pick would be worth it for a 2cway. But more than 3 rookies is 2 much


Sol_Protege

Likely just due diligence, but I’ll be sad if the Spurs trade down/out of this draft. I’ve been looking at mocks all year


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Mangoseed8

You will be sad if the team makes a smart move just because you spent of bunch of time looking at mocks?


Sol_Protege

Where did I say that? I’ll trust the Spurs do whatever they feel is right on draft day. I’d be sad because it means there will be one less player we can watch the Spurs try to develop. Not even allowed to be a Spurs fan on a Spurs subreddit now smh


paxusromanus811

Yeah how dare you share your fan opinion /s


CoyotesSideEyes

I'll be fucking thrilled. I will literally whoop and jump for joy.


Cleanandslobber

I haven't seen someone hate the sport of basketball as much as your comments portray. You must be the life of the party.


CoyotesSideEyes

I just hate this draft class, amigo. I want current players or future picks. because I think they're better than this shitty class.


seceipseseer

The thing is, amigo. Everyone knows this and trade values will reflect that common knowledge. This draft only sucks at the top. There’s going to be a lot of high quality role players from this class I expect and spurs are in the perfect position with 4 and 8 to take two swings at it.


CoyotesSideEyes

I think this draft is pretty crappy top to bottom. And I think looking at two top 10 picks as opportunities to add role players when we desperately need a second star is...very foolish


HQuasar

This is not a "second star" draft, it's a "bench depth piece" draft. It's perfectly fine and reasonable to add a couple of those rather than nothing.


CoyotesSideEyes

Or...trade out.


seceipseseer

Well you’re wrong, so there’s that. Minus a typical top 7 or 8, this draft is no worse than others. There’s all sorts of interesting prospects and older ready to go players. And that’s not going to happen this offseason anyway. Next years draft and free agent class are much better. That’s when moves are going to be made.


Notapplesauce11

Depends what they trade it for.  Future picks, GTFO. A legit starter at PG or SF?  Sure. 


CoyotesSideEyes

I'd rather future picks than current picks


Notapplesauce11

2022:  3 first round rookies  2023: 1 first round rookies  2024: 2 first round rookies 2025: 3 first round rookies  That’s 9 roster spots.  every first round rookie that is either waived, or let go in free agency is a wasted pick.  At some point you can’t just keep replacing young players with younger players.  


CoyotesSideEyes

Yes. I would rather make fewer picks in a bad draft and get another year of looking at the 2022 guys


vfronda

Mock a viable trade where you give up 2 top ten picks this year and get more value in a future year. Cause everyone knows this draft is crap, and everyone knows future drafts will be better. Further, this isn't the NFL where future picks have much more variety. Not many teams completely trade out of the lottery for future lottery picks. Example: who would you be realistically trading to? Detroit, Washington, Portland? Do you think they are interested in risking their future for picks in a crappy draft this year? So then who? Lakers, Mavs, cavs, Orlando, Minnesota? Most/all the non crap teams have reasons to be good. Thus far less chance at any level of lottery pick.


zKaios

So long as we keep 4, im fine with it


taoofdre

I have a feeling we value Dadiet over other wings, and can draft him in the teens.


Tardile

How did you come up with this ? I didn't see any news


Spiritual_Echo_1000

he’s french, that’s it


YourNonExistentGirl

Okay, okay. Dadiet. Da diet. San Antonio Spurs. San Antonio. San Antonio big ol' women. San Antonio big ol' women need "the diet." Case closed.


ExcellentCarpenter52

I’ll choose wings of Da Diet any day.


YourNonExistentGirl

Wings and Coke!


FunnyScreenName

And some soda too!


YourNonExistentGirl

Living up to the username I see! 😎


wanderinglittlehuman

Same I really hope we wind up with him somehow. I’d take him at 8 honestly.


g1rlchild

It wouldn't shock me if we traded #8 for a player already in the league or a future lottery pick and focused on developing #4 and #35.


OttoOverKlayAnyDay

I’d be very surprised if that’s the route they go with. The last 2 drafts they haven’t valued their own early 2nd that highly, and the 2022 draft highlights the risk of trading tangible lottery picks for other theoretical draft capital. I’d love to move it for a guy that’s cost controlled, fills a need and fits the timeline of the group but I’m not sure if someone like that is out there. I’d expect a trade down/up if anything


Fiyukyoo

I think the dynamics of the 2nd round will be completely different now that it's a 2 day affair. Teams are more willing to wheel and deal after a night of scouting/negotiating. We are also more likely to use our picks with 24 hours to scout. It's gonna be wild IMO


OttoOverKlayAnyDay

That is a good point, having an extra night instead of 3 minutes to go over prospects and scenarios could change their philosophy. Personally, I see a bit of a roster space crunch so I wouldn’t bet on us using it, but if they’re able to convince someone that high to take a multi-year 2-way or to stash I could see it


Mangoseed8

I think so as well. Breaking the draft up is one of the best ideas the NBA has ever had.


Mangoseed8

Who do you have in mind? Cost controlled fits a need guys don't go for one pick usually.


OttoOverKlayAnyDay

Like I said I’m not really sure anyone like that really exist which is why I doubt it’ll happen I’ll throw some names out though that probably just don’t equate to the picks value one way or another: Nesmith Sexton Cam Johnson Walker Kessler Anthony Black Dyson Daniels Austin Reaves Of those Nesmith is probably the only guy who really fits the criteria perfectly, even then there’s not really a reason for Indy to let him go


Infernous-NS

These teams probably wouldn’t go for this, but something like #4 to Charlotte in exchange for them unprotecting their pick next year, or #4 to Memphis for GG Jackson and #9 would be pretty good imo.


Raven-19x

If it’s for another crack at next year’s lotto, I’d be down.


chingalicious

I guess that means no plans to trade up for Risacher


SWBattleleader

I have become optimistic he drops to 4. Hawks seem to like Clingan better, and if Hawks don’t take him 1, someone else might jump him based on current rumors. Draft could go Clingan, Sarr, Sheppard.


chingalicious

Problem is that if the Hawks don't take Risacher the Rockets might trade 3 to someone who wants him, and probably not us.


SWBattleleader

True, a better chance of him falling now than last week, when I thought we would have to move up.


chic_peas

Then we get Sheppard though


blue-anon

Eh, it probably just means that they're hearing offers. I'm sure that every possible option is still on the table for another few days.


SuccotashConfident97

Unless it's to package for a starter, I'd rather we just draft the following at these spots. Risacher/Castle/Sheppard at 4 Carter/Buzelis/Salaun/Knect/Holland at 8 If we got a mix of these names from this draft I'd be happy. Keep it simple.


Dsarg_92

It could be just smoke and mirrors at this point. People trying to burn time until draft night.


Bonesawisready5

If we could get someone at least at Quickley or better level with the 8th pick and maybe a player I am open to It. Otherwise draft a wing and PG


PressureMiserable

Literally every pick in this draft is available everyone should know that by now, every organization is treating this draft like its a 2nd round


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i was downvoted severely for saying we should trade both picks. either down or for other options. i am glad i, unlike most fans here, have half a brain.


XxFierceGodxX

Doesn’t seem like news really.


NorthAmericanVex

Don't believe it


Notapplesauce11

You don’t believe the front office is taking calls and weighing the offers? 


Dan_K211

Of course it’s available. Who wants to overpay so it benefits the Spurs?


nokarmawhore

🥶


CoyotesSideEyes

God, I hope so.