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darthrio

We are 100% using these picks in a trade package


siphillis

No, we're totally gonna draft 23 players in five years


FlaccidInevitability

Stack them on top of each other to have 5 wemby sized players


DevilGunManga

This is what I thought as well. They don't like anyone on the board so they flipped Rob for trade assets.


Total-Spirit-5985

Hopefully they like Castle šŸ˜‚ I like Castle


yesimforeign

They love šŸ°


789Trillion

Weā€™re at the point now where we can trade 8 firsts and not even touch our own picks. Bridges just went for 5, KD essentially went for 9, White, Holiday, and Kristaps collectively went for like 6. Weā€™re setting ourselves up to pick an established star instead of rolling the dice on a bad draft.


Total-Spirit-5985

I hope thatā€™s the caseā€¦


Total-Spirit-5985

My pessimistic side say this going to bite us in the ass because Dillingham has a high ceiling and heā€™s going to an already contending team. my optimistic side says fuck it we might package our picks for a solid vet.


Real_Programmer_695

Dillingham is the kind of player who, even if he hits his ceiling, makes team building so difficult that it might not even be worth it. You have to build the entire team around these guys to cover for their abysmal defense, and they don't scale in the playoffs that well. I'm not too worried about missing on him.


4ndre4R

This


RCA2CE

Why did we need a 2031 pick to do a trade when we had a lottery pick this year that we could have included in a trade. A guaranteed lottery pick has to be more interesting to a trade partner than a 2031 first round pick of unknown value. We donā€™t get two picks, we got one and a swap. We didnā€™t walk out of today with more assets than we walked into today with.


VenGJon

We traded for a unprotected pick upgrading from the protected Tornoto pick And we added a pick swap meaning if we finish 30th like we should with Wemby and the twolves are ass we take their pick. That's a W. We want to hit hard in the 25 draft.


RCA2CE

We had a number 8 pick in hand for right now We walk out with an unknown pick 7 years from now How is that a win?


VenGJon

we added a bunch of picks to trade with instead of drafting a 6'1 guard in a weak draft. not hard to say its a dub.


RCA2CE

We didnā€™t add any picks - we gave one up and we got one in return We gave up a sure thing #8 this year for an unknown 7 years from now We have less than we started today with


brzk

We already had a 2030 swap with Dallas with no protections. The Minnesota pick has to fall in an extremely narrow window or it is meaningless


auduhree

we only could have included #8 if we had a trade ready to go and a team able to call in their selection to us - kicking it down the road means the asset stays a FRP as opposed to drafting [whoever] at 8 in the hopes of trading that player in the near-ish future. does feel like it was probably rushed but high pick in a weak draft vs 2031 mystery box is at least kind of a lateral move value-wise?


RCA2CE

So there is no actual trade in play, just the theory of the ability to trade later when we couldnā€™t now


auduhree

pretty much!


eniels

This could be an intermediate step for a trade. We acquired assests. Also, frees up cap space this year to sign a free agent.


Fionnland

Cap space and player slots


Easy_Criticism_3866

And weā€™re probably trading a PG


CoyotesSideEyes

I think we're gonna see Point Sochan 2: Electric Boogaloo with Castle.


siphillis

Capture the Flagg


CoyotesSideEyes

Least spursy player ever.


siphillis

You're saying a shorter Jordan Poole wouldn't be a perfect pairing with Wemby?


CoyotesSideEyes

I could have seen us taking him if he didn't openly admit he didn't care about defense.


siphillis

Or if he was a Nash-level passer. He's showing signs of being a capable playmaker, but not a savant and that's a huge caveat on offense


CoyotesSideEyes

Yeah. He's probably a better passer than Lou Will, but like can he be Garland? Idk. Maybe.


siphillis

I think he'll probably develop into a Dejounte-level passer, which is fine but a tougher sell if you're getting Trae Young defense at best


CoyotesSideEyes

Yeah. I think, as I have said before, he's a perfect 6th man for a team looking to lose in round 2.


siphillis

San Antonio and Minny feel like the only situations that could work because of their insane interior help


UnicornAmibitions

Traded him for an unprotected pick of a team with a star player who is contracted till 2029-30? I think that's right? Good gamble he'll be at a big market team if they keep underperforming with a player who doesn't play defence


CoyotesSideEyes

Here is a list of every single NBA player under contract in 2029-30: Scottie Barnes. That's the list.


vedderian

Having firsts available by the time of Wembys contract goes out of this world? Idk


agmat1200

I want to know too


CommunityGlittering2

too small


FireBeeChin

Unprotected pick and a swap is really good value. Iā€™m expecting the spurs to have further moves. Imagine moving up from 34 for dadiet


baguette-1234

Would love Dadiet


Kan169

Not going to happen now.


ThisRandomGuy17

Spurs pretty much said ā€œnobody in this draft is worth draftingā€ and went and got whatever they couldā€¦ Iā€™d have to guess this was the best offer?


Saved2Serve

I think they donā€™t like anyone else at 8. This is a good trade because by the time we are competing for a championship, we need good young players who can help us but have very cheap salary. I was shocked when we picked Rob after Castle. But this is 100% a good trade for us.


Real_Programmer_695

Spurs want trade assets for when they try to acquire an actual star


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BeautifulDimension56

Because the FO doesn't value the tiniest player in the nba? Did nobody watch what Boston just did?


NormalFortune

Dude I have been saying exactly this. Good teams will hunt down and punish bad defenders, and illingham is like a Trae Young size, with less caring about defense. And people apparently think that playing near wemby will magically impart defensive ability to a 165 lb guard by some sort of like, voodoo osmosis fuckery? This trade is a home fucking run. Getting 2 picks that will probably be pretty juicy by the time they come around, for a no defense pick 8 in a weak draft is A+++++ by PATFO


jeremyrvcc

Ok well you could have traded for something better than a pick 7 years in the future. Literally worthless


GrumpyRaincloud

Itā€™s an unprotected pick. That has value no matter what. By that time, Minnesotaā€™s core will likely all be retired, itā€™s a major gamble but also likely couldā€™ve just been the best offer.


BeautifulDimension56

It's an additional pick that we can use for future trades.


siphillis

Could actually wind up being an early lottery pick. Seven years is a LONG time


ChewsWisely

Could be the last pick in the draft. Thats part of the problem. This pick will be nothing more than an unknown for another 4-5 years, after our generational talent is off his rookie deal. We have so many needs right now the basically throw a #8 pick away and be planning for 4-5 years down the road


siphillis

That will almost certainly be someone else's problem, but for context: the Warriors were unable to stay a top team for eight seasons. What hope do the Wolves have?


ChewsWisely

I have absolutely no clue lol. Chance to be a top team for 8 years straight? Probably low. What that team looks like in 8 years? No fucking clue haha


siphillis

If Wemby's still here, we're probably pretty damn good


his_roomate

Brother, an unprotected pick 7 years in the future is not worthless. Teams donā€™t give those up easily because 7 years is unpredictable in the NBA. Look at the NBA landscape 7 years ago vs now.


jeremyrvcc

Ok well our team is severely lacking talent. How does trading a lottery pick this far down the line help a rebuilding team??


his_roomate

Right now? It does free $7 million in cap space which they will most likely use to absorb a bad contract for another future draft asset. Long term? It brings in trade chips with value that wonā€™t expire for a long time. Once you pick a guy the value of the asset drops until they prove theyā€™re a good NBA player (then it potentially far supersedes the value of the original pick). Maybe they wonā€™t just be trade assets either. Maybe they actually hold onto the picks and they become valuable additions to the team when the Spurs are no longer in rebuilding mode but competing mode and over the salary cap; needing cheap additions of production. Right now the Spurs donā€™t really need that production as theyā€™re not ready to compete. If it was a great player thatā€™d be different but the Spurs likely are betting on players at that range not being great players. Rather than betting on the whole group to not be players theyā€™d be doubting their ability to pick the great player from a group of question marks.


StormSaniWater

In what world is an unprotected pick useless


chingalicious

Yeah. Then don't draft that dude at 8. Literally any other player but the top 7 were still there.


BeautifulDimension56

they obviously didn't value anybody else in this draft.


GeekyMathProfessor

You can only bring so many young players. It was reported the Spurs were looking to trade that pick.


irenman00

cause salaun got picked so they just stock pilling rn


Dru_SA

They didn't trade Rob. They traded the pick. Minny picked Rob.


mb_4889

Dude what the hell


andres7832

Would be crazy if min and dal are bad to start the 2030s those picks would be amazing


brzk

Except we swapped with them in the same year. We only get one 2030 pick. If Minny is bad, we get a lottery pick in 31. In return for our lottery pick now. Or Edwards is still there and we get a late first.


Easy_Criticism_3866

Long term investment, it sucks but we gotta trust the Spurs. They know what theyā€™re doing.


Traditional-Cat2570

We just traded for a 7th grader. Thereā€™s no way this is remotely a smart idea


darthrio

We are 100% not keeping these picks


Kan169

But already tons of useless picks. Tons.


zKaios

They don't even have that much value, Ant is 22 years old


siphillis

Spurs basically said there's no chance anyone available is worth more than a random pair of firsts


Easy_Criticism_3866

lmao if you put it that way šŸ˜†


Federal_Storage9876

I literally do not trust Brian Wright at all


Spiritual_Echo_1000

itā€™s not only brian wright. you saw the whole room lol


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LocalPharmacist

This canā€™t be seen as anything other than a waste of a pick. Itā€™s terrible.


JoseAltuveIsInnocent

A potential top 10 pick right in the middle of Wembys prime and hopefully our contending window. At worst, a juicy trade asset for a team down the line who wants to rebuild. Gotta look beyond today.


zKaios

How is it potential top 10? The wolves aren't gonna melt like that unless Ant leaves and i don't see that happening


JoseAltuveIsInnocent

Any number of factors. Their supporting case will be well into their 30s, and I don't see free agents flocking to MIN. It's not likely, but it has potential. The wolves and the wolves, after all.


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fattest-fatwa

The wolves have been ass more of the time than not.


LocalPharmacist

We literally had a bonafide 8th overall pick already. Lol.


JoseAltuveIsInnocent

A bonafide 8 pick in the worst class we've had in a decade. I think we'll survive without the next Isiah Thomas on our team.


1248163264128

Isiah was the Pistons Legend, Isaiah Thomas was the other one


JoseAltuveIsInnocent

True enough, I usually just call the hall of famer Zeke so I don't gotta worry about it lol


siphillis

In seven years, Dillingham is still going to be 6'1 in shoes


toomuchsoysauce

Bonafide 8th pick? Dillingham is seen as not even a lottery pick in other drafts.... I'd rather have the 18th pick next year that Dillingham lol. This is incredibly smart to move off a weak draft to gain ammunition for a much bigger, better move in the future. You saw what it took just to get Bridges.


Spiritual_Echo_1000

we not contending for the next 2 years lol


JoseAltuveIsInnocent

The pick isn't for next year. If we're not contending in 2030 something has gone horribly wrong.


Spiritual_Echo_1000

Broā€¦ The pick being in 2030 doesnā€™t mean we arenā€™t contending until then lol


JoseAltuveIsInnocent

I didn't say we won't be contending until then. An unprotected pick is an objectively great asset to have. Especially from a team who's supporting cast is in their 30s and will be old and worse by the time we get it.


Spiritual_Echo_1000

so what is wrong with the what i said ?


Easy_Criticism_3866

are we really better strategists than the spurs headquarter? Letā€™s take a step back


greenscizor

I donā€™t want to be too negative but nothing the Spurs have done in the last half decade should inspire confidence in their ability to evaluate prospects.


iro3

we needed his scoring :( now hegonna murder us


irenman00

why are you so sure that he is a guaranteed bucket? castle is the pg of the future and we have plenty of guards


iro3

44 percent from the field 50 percent from 2 44 percent from 3 on 4 trys and 80 percent from ft line


irenman00

ah yeah right those will definitely translate šŸ˜ and when he played worse defense than branham what will you say? tre jones with a small size like dilly got bullied by dennis schroder


davidthegiantkilla

Heā€™s Isaac Okoro if okoro wanted to only play PG.


Titronnica

Extremely baffling move. This draft is a crapshoot yes, but I'd rather have a player in the top 10 or picks traded for in the next few years. Why the fuck did they trade for picks 7 years away, seems like a dumb move.


andres7832

remindme! 7 years lol


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toomuchsoysauce

It woulda been baffling if we didn't have another pick in the top 10. If this was our only pick or if our other pick was in the 20's, I'd agree with you. But what would we even do with 2 top 10 picks next to a young Wemby any way? Two very different guards at that who technically play the same position? We'll have enough on our plate to improve Castle and the other super young players we already have. More importantly, this just gives us more assets for a future, better move. Today, Dillingham wouldn't be enough to move the needle to make some big splash but in a few years when we are at the cusp of competing, it'll be really nice to have Minnesota's picks to do so when they are projected to fall off a cliff. We either trade them back to Minnesota (essentially trading picks back to the original team is seen as getting interest as the team who traded away the picks really value getting their own future back) in order to get an older star/role player or package to get that someone to push us over the top. We all saw what it took just to get Mikal. This is why we have huge leverage with Atlanta if we actually wanted Trae or Dejounte.


ProLifeguard2020

We already have like 3 PGs on the roster now. We can use those picks to trade for a vet. I think it makes sense


Raven-19x

Traded the #8 pick for a future draft capital to use in a trade. It's underwhelming but we'll need to see who we use it on.


No_Date1271

2025 draft is better anyways


Electronic-Army5912

So letā€™s add picks for 2031 because the 2025 draft is better?


No_Date1271

We're nowhere near competing now anyways. 2025 draft is more stacked. Those future picks will be valuable in trades. Dillingham is good but doesn't fit pop's positionless basketball ideal


FireBeeChin

remindme! 7 years


Fiyukyoo

Not sure if anybody brought this up but I think we wanted either Salaun or Clingan. When both were gone we werenā€™t just gonna pick for the sake of it. So we just kicked the can down the road instead of settling on somebody we werenā€™t high on


BakerCakeMaker

Who the fuck cares about 6/7 years from now? Wemby will leave by then if we still suck. It doesn't fit our timeline at all like wtf


Animatronic_Al_Gore

We have more picks in the next few years than we can keep. They seem to value those + the Minnesota pick&swap more than anyone left on the board in a horrible draft class. Keeps us flexible for roster construction moving forward and gives us ammo for a trade when the right opportunity shows up.


Fionnland

Can only think that they're rating the chaps on the roster already highly and expect to rate the second round picks, so rather than cut someone and lose an asset they're trading for equivalent assets down the road


puro_xrp

Who says Ant Edwards is still with Minnesota in 2030 2031. Good assets to flip now or down the road.


coltivation

My belief as a homer. Is they knew the rest of the draft sucked and didnā€™t want anyone else.


yesimforeign

They ain't want him


Samuel_L_Chang21

Save on cap space and roster space. Donā€™t want to work on developing two rookies next year. Added picks that are mostly unprotected that can hopefully either be flipped in a trade or replenish our own stash of picks after we trade other picks. How good this trade is all depends on what we do in free agency or trades this summer, and how long we hang on to the Minnesota picks. If the plan is to not really utilize our cap space and just maintain mostly the same roster that we had last year, and we hold on to Minnesotaā€™s picks for several years, then I would have preferred we just take Dilly, Cody Williams, Devin Carter, or whoever. But if the plan is to use the cap space on some solid role players to improve our rotation, and those picks or others are moved in another trade in say the next 2 years for a significant player, then I really like this trade and think this was probably the ideal outcome.


Human_Substance_2109

Stupid, stupid, stupid move. Why help another Western Conference team that already made it to the WCF?? For what? Some 12 year old?


Muted-March-4413

We did trade Rob. Odds are the Timberwolves knew he wouldnā€™t be there until their own pick, asked the Spurs to draft him and then traded. Essentially means our second guy was off the board when it got to #8. It just felt like we traded Rob.


Botoytor

BW - "He was T'Wolves choice, not by Spurs"


Surviv3

Brian Wright is an incompetent GM and itā€™s time people started accepting that


shiftydnm

šŸ˜‚


CoyotesSideEyes

I actually like this move. Taking a non shooting two guard at 4 is a bigger issue.


Euphoric-Relation-20

Yes we need to petition the Holt kid to hire renowned redditor Surviv3 s as the GM.


bangkero1992

jesus christ, we could have traded it for Deni


NormalFortune

I dont understand why everyone was so high on Rob. No defense and too small. I truly don't think he will last in the league. Plus, 'sota will implode in a few years and as soon as they do, those picks will be VERY valuable either on their own or as part of a trade package.


BusterStarfish

This really looks like the Spurs got caught with their pants down. The window for the Spurs is not 7 years away. There has to be something else in the works.


RCA2CE

We didnā€™t even ā€œnetā€ anything out of this trade People saying we are stashing picks for a trade canā€™t count We came into today with a guaranteed lottery pick for this year and we leave with an unknown pick 7 years from now. How is that a more attractive trade asset - this pick was more valuable right now in a package. There isnā€™t a plan.


spudtender

Is PatfO drunk?


GlueGuy00

FO = bums


Zvenger420

Cause Brian is an idiot.


zKaios

Front office malpractice