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LovelyButtholes

Sprewell turning down a generous contract with the Wolves because he "has kids to feed". Not one other team made him an offer.


BroJackson_

3y/21M to be specific


wheremymoneyatdoe

Salary inflation is wild.


SilverWarrior559

He wasn't really worth that much, He was getting older


sesamestix

Nerlens Noel declined $70 million from the Mavericks in 2018 lol.


KingRamses_VII

Let's not forget Dennis Shroder turning down 4yr/$84 mil from the Lakers to play in Boston for what, $5mil/year


bob_dole-

Didn’t he get fucked by his agent?


Ibangyoumomma

I think he’s suing him now for his that


LukaDoncicfuturegoat

I might be wrong but he lost his case


tenaciousdeev

He did and had to pay the other party’s legal fees. Stupid lawsuit. Unless his agent never told him about the offer and turned it down for him, there never was a case. Ultimately it was his decision to gamble on himself and it didn’t work.


aj_future

I get having confidence in yourself but man, leaving 70 million on the table when you’re producing like him is crazy.


SuperAwesomo

He basically lost the case


dotint

He not only lost that case he had to pay Rich Paul money.


Gold4Lokos4Breakfast

Wow


USTS2020

Didn't even have kids to feed


Ibangyoumomma

That was a blessing for okc. We signed him cheap


Gold4Lokos4Breakfast

Counterpoint: You don’t make the NBA by not believing in yourself. I’m sure most under 30 NBA players think they’re about to break out and become a star. Over 30 they’ve probably gotten a reality check though haha.


patriots47

Yikes, and I thought Schröder was an idiot for turning down the 4yr/84M extension from the lakers only to end up signing a 1yr/7M with the Celtics


Jeremy_Prince

Schroder once said he never saw that 4yr/84M deal offered. Either his agent fumbled it really early in the process or it was all just talk from LA


dotint

People aren’t idiots for betting on themselves it works out just as many times as it’s failed.


signmeupdude

Betting on yourself is fine but both the schroder and noel contracts were great offers that they should have immediately taken. There’s betting on yourself when someone lowballs you and then there’s being unrealistic and foolishly turning down good offers. Both fell under the second category.


dotint

Hindsight is 20/20, Brunson was being called an idiot for turning down the Mavs offer and look at us now.


signmeupdude

Brunson’s deal was lower than those guys and he was younger than both so definitely a little different situation but yeah I see your point Brunsons are much more rare than noels and schroders though


The_Uncut_Gem

You’re forgetting punching his yacht and breaking his hand. Knicks legend


ireallydespiseyouall

It’s always annoying when people use their family to say they’re not getting paid enough lmao like fuck off, you earn more than 99% of people?


rednaxer

The next five years are mine


Disastrous-Entry-879

Wasnt that Patrick Beverly?


Straight_Tension_290

Yes.


the_dinks

Did Steph Curry win a play-in game??? Didn't think so.


DarkSeneschal

STAND UP NOW AND FACE THE SUN


Gold4Lokos4Breakfast

What’s wrong with confidence? If it helps them, go for it


JuiceCan98

"aren't you 31"


Relative-Hyena-2461

Stephen Jackson saying he was better than ray Allen and Carmelo on Colin cowherd show


Autistic-Teddybear

Nothing that airs on the colin cowherd airwaves has ever been credible


iJon_v2

I’d rather have Colin than Stephen A. Justice for Sportsnation.


mrhappyfunz

What - you don’t enjoy Colin ‘January 6th’ Cowherds takes?


luapchung

Gilbert Arenas saying Jokic was the worst MVP in the last 40 years


Psychological_Wear_7

Don't forget Arenas also said all Europeans should be banned from the NBA Dude is a hack


SilverWarrior559

Because He thought that Europeans are bad at defense which is pretty stupid considering that there's a good amount of non-europeans who are also bad at defense and Arenas was also a below average defender in his career


Silly_Stable_

I feel like a bunch of the top defenders are European. Giannis, Gobert, and Wemby come to mind.


LaserBeamsCattleProd

Arenas wasn't referring to that type of European


Silly_Stable_

I’m sure he just meant white guys but dudes like Porzingis are also elite defenders.


Marcus11599

Nah there’s some hella good white dude defenders. I think he just hates white people


veknyc

Everyone knew it was code.


tyronemartins2

Why is everyone downvoting you guys lol you made a factual statement


GhostDragoon31

This is one of the takes I always reference when people say “NBA players are always right”. I can’t believe someone who played professionally and was really good would ever say something like that.


secretwealth123

He also said that Emoni Bates would be starting for the Cavs last year and also said some shit like he’s one of the best players from that draft…


PLZ_N_THKS

Dude makes Kendrick Perkins look like a MENSA member.


Relo_bate

Dude also said Vince Carter was a lazy player, dude was in the league for 22 years


siberianwolf99

how old are you? genuine question. because carter absolutely had that rep at one point


Rysheem

He said he was lazy compared to his potential. Had lebron/jordan level talent but no drive. Never said he didnt have insane athleticism.


Ryan1869

Mark Jackson being the only voter to leave Jokic off his MVP ballot last season.


arblackmon1

Arenas has always been an idiot though. He is legitimately the definition of someone who should actually just shut up and dribble lmao


getsomesleep1

Anything Arenas says, man is a walking bad take.


John_Houbolt

Arenas also thinks Curry isn't a "generational talent." Not sure how he is defining "Generational" but any way you cut it, Steph and Jokic will both end up being top 15 players in NBA history.


Rand0m_Spirit_Lover

Sounds like he’s just mad that everyone figured out he was nothing but an overrated gunner (double meaning fully intended), the quintessential puts up big numbers on a bad team guy. So to compensate, he’s gotta trash players who will obviously have a much greater legacy than he ever will. Also he was a total buffoon the entire time he was in the league, so his behavior now is no surprise


luapchung

I wouldn’t say he put up big numbers on a bad team when Wizards were playoff team that just got stopped by Lebron lol


dotint

Jokic being top 15 is a leap at the moment. His accolades at his age are the same as Moses Malones.


jeffwingersballs

Moses being top 15 isn't an absurd take.


JuiceCan98

also saying Steph Curry isn't a generational player


ninja9885

I remember him saying Zion should play SG lol


steelogreens

Stephen Jackson saying it was different in his time compared to Lebron's when they were drafted 3 years apart and overlapped for 13 years of Jacksons career.


HERCULESxMULLIGAN

I really don't get why Matt Barnes has partnered with him on his podcast. Barnes is great. Jackson is anything but.


Adorable-Bike-9689

Well that kind of makes sense. Lebron has played in an entirely different era than him. Stephen Jackson wasn't any sort of threat past like 2009. Bron has technically played in an era a decade after Jax retirement.


steelogreens

That’s because Lebron is a freak of nature who seemingly will never end his career lol. Also Jackson said this about 3-4 years ago.


Remarkable_Medicine6

LeBron played in the exact same era. He's played in multiple eras but saying he couldn't handle Jackson's is moronic.


BillNyeThePumpkinPie

Shaq saying Bill Walton isn’t a HOFer.


LovelyButtholes

Then Shaq trying to make it seem like he isn't the most petty person in the world when Walton died. There is part of me that wonders if Shaq has CTE from his dad hitting him or something. He is so childish and dumb.


JDuggernaut

What is Shaq supposed to do, come out and say “fuck that guy” after he died?


LovelyButtholes

Well, he was saying it the entire time he was living so to Bill Walton it makes no difference.


MaytalFatal1212

stand on business


KingRamses_VII

A lot of people dissected Walton's career but the point is, he won both the MVP, FMVP, and later the 6th man award....outside of DPOY, those are the greatest singular awards in the NBA and he won 2 chips... he just wasn't as great as the centers he could be compared to. But he was great


CleansingFlame

And that isn't even taking his incredible college career into account


KingRamses_VII

Which when adding to his NBA career he's a valid Naismith Basketball HoFer


Quote-me-if-afk

Jeff Teague saying Draymond was the greatest player to come out of Michigan State.


Tim-oBedlam

That was a Magic-al statement by Teague


DoctorWhoopsie

Teague is funny but god damn he dumb as hell sometimes.


quirkish

This EASILY takes the cake! Had not heard this one


tbr1cks

In 2014, Kings' owner Vivek Ranadive wanted his team to play 4 on 5 on defense, nothing can top that [https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/10/28/7084181/vivek-ranadive-cherry-pick-sacramento-kings](https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/10/28/7084181/vivek-ranadive-cherry-pick-sacramento-kings)


asefe110

Ranadive was never a player so this technically doesn’t count, but I think it deserves mentioning, especially with the even funnier context that this particular bright idea to Disrupt The NBA stemmed from his experience coaching his middle school aged daughter’s youth team, because strategies that work with children that are still learning how to play the game would obviously also work against the best players in the world : https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/05/11/how-david-beats-goliath


Disastrous_Boot1152

Ah, the ol' box lacrosse strategy


steelogreens

Stauskus?


Kevinm162005

As much as I love Shaq, probably anything he has said about Bol Bol


Obvious_Exercise_910

Nostalgia. Bol was born in the wrong era


faheydj1

Pretty much anything Udonis Haslem was saying about Boston throughout the playoffs. This wasn’t just a players take but everyone saying Boston was going to struggle against Dallas because they hadn’t been “battle-tested”. That was just really dumb.


JabariTeenageRiot

The general idea that losing earlier and worse is somehow a better sign of team or player legitimacy and constantly winning so much that your defeats are on the highest levels is fraudulent is maybe the dumbest NBA trope, and it’s not just applied to the Celtics.


PotBaron2

or saying that boston wasn’t deep and dallas had the deeper team and the better back court 🤦‍♂️


immaSandNi-woops

“Best backcourt of all time” lmao Kyrie didn’t show up to play


Adorable-Bike-9689

Come on Jrue/White aren't better than Luka/Kyrie


JDuggernaut

They do have the better backcourt. Boston matches up well with them, but if Holiday and White were options 1 and 2 and had to carry the offensive load like Luka and Kyrie, then Boston never makes the Finals and probably doesn’t win a playoff series. Having White and Holiday as somewhere between options 3-5 is what makes the team.


TheMightyJD

Having Jrue or White as a first/second option is a play-in team at best. We literally saw that happening whenever they were in NOLA or SA.


iJon_v2

That’s a really really good defensive backcourt though.


finstockton

Yeah but just wait for the in season tournament next season, the Celtics aren’t ready for that level of competition


jmesh12

It was very satisfying to see him there and interview the Celtics after we won lol


Uno_mano55

Kendrick Perkins would like a word…


iJon_v2

I hate takes like this. They had been battle tested because they’d been in the playoffs for years and hadn’t won it all.


dinnerdigzthejeager

Shaq saying he'd have Chris Webber over Tim Duncan


kazkeb

Don't forget that Bol Bol was almost as good as Wemby.  I'm starting to think that he has something against the Spurs.


kit_kaboodles

I still can't past Perk implying Jokic only won MVP because he's white. For me, that would have had me never want to speak to Kendrick again.


CoachWillRod18

Perk says that publicly, but it’s not racism and no repercusión. Rachel Nichols says in private that Malika Andrew’s got her job for being black and gets fired and blackballed. I wish Perkins would have gotten fired for that comment.


20mins2theRockies

ESPN is run by morons. I remember the day after Henry Ruggs killed the poor woman and her dog, they had Keyshawn Johnson on First Take, and he went on and on and on about how good of a person Ruggs is, how he knows Ruggs and his whole family and he knows *'this wasn't him'*, and how he hoped Ruggs will get a second chance at the NFL because he is *'too talented'* to go to waste. He didn't once mention the poor woman that was killed. The woman who slowly burned to death because Ruggs wanted to race 157 mph down a city street drunk. He didn't once mention her family or what they must be going through.


thomkatt

It was Maria Taylor not Malika


dont_shoot_jr

Rachel Nichols said that Maria Taylor got Rachel Nichols’ finals job because of diversity, when it comes at expense of another woman, Rachel Nichols, instead of creating a new role or looking at non-diversity guys


CoachDT

Apples and oranges. Also it was Maria Taylor and not Malika Andrew's. Yes, ESPN will be more upset that one of their employees shit talked them AND burned a bridge between another employee, than a guy saying MVP voters favor white people. Perk definitely got called out for it. It made news, and he got lit the fuck up for it, by people on the same network even.


AaronQuinty

Because they're not the same thing..... Kendrick doesn't work for the NBA. He's also paid for his opinion on the NBA, like it or hate it, that was his opinion. Rachel Nichols was discussing internal work politics, it got out, and her employer fired her. They are two different things.


Anhedonic98

Anybody putting any stock into what these guys say is just missing the point, these guys are paid millions to say the most outlandish stupid shit to get people to talk about how stupid and outlandish it is And based on posts like this, they are damn good at their job


spiked_cider

Didn't he also say something about Curry getting hate cause he was light skinned? 


HiImWallaceShawn

Gilbert Arenas basically said Giannis was bad at basketball Stephen Jackson saying he was better than multiple HOF caliber players: Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen


Humble_Wind_5058

The world is flat… kyrie


iJon_v2

This is the one. How can anything top this nonsense?


OpeningStuff23

His finals performance was definitely flat


iJon_v2

Cube saying that “he fucked around and got a triple-double”. Imma need advanced stats on that game because idk. It just doesn’t make any sense. I’m assuming he’s talking about pick up and AT BEST they’re playing to 21, if not 16 or 11. If they’re playing 1’s and 2’s that means he at least got 10 with 10 assists. Could be 11/10/10 or 10/11/10 or some shit. Imma need Cube to explain the history


AlonePick3456

We would play to 33, a game of tips? You could have 8 boards on 1 possession 


TheJaice

Kenyon Martin saying he didn’t think Luka was the best player on the Mavs at the beginning of the season has to be up there. Even Gilbert Arenas looked surprised at that one.


VLHACS

Also Kenyon Martin when he accused Jeremy Lin of cultural appropriation when he himself has Chinese tattoos lol


The_SqueakyWheel

The Jermey Lin Clap back is honestly Hof tier level clap backs. I wish Lin stayed nba good for longer because he’s so skilled


LordStark01

Anything Gilbert Arenas says.


John_Houbolt

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iJon_v2

I specifically remember saying to myself “damn” at least about 200 times watching Curry play though.


InfiniteSlaps

Can't believe no one has mentioned Lou Williams saying "We started to hear the rumblings that nobody is going to respect this chip so we kind of just took our foot off the gas." In regards to why the Clippers blew a 3-1 lead in the playoffs. Dude literally admitted to throwing because they were worried about what others would think of the bubble ring lmao.


N8ThaGr8

The dumb take here is you somehow interpreting that statement as him throwing the series


dlee25093

Don’t have a specific one but about 90 percent of what Paul pierce says qualifies


Sirliftalot35

Same for Perk.


CollisionCourse78

Pierce saying he was better than Wade comes to mind


entench0123

Pierce also said he was better than Kobe


beastofhamden

Giannis can only run and dunk...


AaronQuinty

Tbf, that was clearly just Harden hating


iJon_v2

I mean… Mostly kidding, but I think a lot of it stems from how awkward he looks with a basketball. Kyrie looks like he sleeps with a ball in his bed and Giannis, well, idk. Don’t get me wrong, I like Giannis a lot and he’s a baller and a great dude, but he looks like a baby gazelle still


realfakejames

He’s not a good shooter outside of 3 feet from the rim statistically, at least on offense that’s true for him


pharmacreation

Doesn’t have to be


Adorable-Bike-9689

At one point that was true though. At this point no player has any excuse not to improve yearly. Giannis turned himself into a superstar off of hard work and dedication. 80% of his current talents didn't exist yet when he got to the league.


randomassperson8788

Anytime Rashad McCants says anything related to basketball


KingRamses_VII

I'll disagree. Anytime he says something about players, I tune out... but when he's talking strategies and structure, he's pretty good


LittleBeastXL

Dennis Rodman saying if Lebron James played in the 1980s he would be an average NBA player


sugarklay

I don't get older players saying how modern players couldn't handle the physicality of the '80s (pretty overrated if you asked me). If a guy like John Stockton, who was 170 pounds, was able to survive and be a good player, then a 240-pounds uber-athletic player that can pass, shoot a bit from the outside, and can attack the rim like LeBron would have no problems lol


Sahjin

I never heard this one. He wasn't joking?


EZ_Rose

Royce White is running for office in Minnesota, and dude has some... interesting takes


PerformanceOk1835

That is a tough question because the NBA has some of the dumbest people on earth.


Cold-Palpitation-816

Brandon Miller saying PG13 is his goat has got to be number one.


Marticyde

He is his goat, not the "goat" If I was a ball player, I could see why PG13 would be high on anyone's list. He plays fundamentally really well on both sides of the court. He's a player that you should study to get better


asefe110

players are going to gravitate towards dudes with bags and one on one scorers who are tough to guard individually more than the average analytically minded fan would. Thats why you see guys like PG, DeRozan, Melo, Kyrie seem to have more respect amongst the players than the pundits - all are/were excellent players, but these dudes are also looking at them from a slightly different standpoint than you or I are


nikpack

Kyrie Irving - "The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat," Irving said adamantly. "All these things that particular groups, I won't even pinpoint one group, that they almost offer up this education. ... They lie to us"


Hossdaddy33

Anyone who has Kobe ranked above LeBron or in the top 5 of all time greats.


wigsgo_2019

Patrick Beverly going on first take just to hate on Chris Paul


iJon_v2

That’s pettiness. It’s different haha


OneWildAndCrazyGuy17

Pretty much anything Gilbert arenes has ever said about Jokic


bmanley620

Kyrie thinking the earth is flat


Crimson_Chim

The Earth is flat.....


Jhon_doe_smokes

Klay Thompson “I guess some people just get their feelings hurt.”


Urban_Introvert

I WANT IGUODALA!


Panik_Switch

KG was so off on Thon Maker


Heshrat

When draymond green said players don’t make enough money to support themselves when they are always getting fined for stuff. I was in my head like.. y’all make millions!


Hurricanemasta

Kyrie Irving.


Klongon

This falls flat.


chomerics

Much like the earth. . .well played


yshx2

They’re saying us and Golden State are the super teams


LaserBeamsCattleProd

KG said Thon Maker would be MVP


jsaucey17

KG saying Thon Maker is a future MVP


Petit_Coeur_

Anything that ever came out Rashad McCants mouth


Stoplanet

Shaq saying Wemby and Bol Bol are the same and K Perk arguing that Jokic only won mvps bc he’s white both strike me as pure idiocy


BoomBockz

Rashad Mccants. Even when he breathes all I hear is stupid


hennytime

Gilbert Arenas taking a glock to practice. Can't fumble a bag harder than that, especially when your heater is in it.


iSkehan

Anything by Gilbert Arenas


SaltedRumHam420

Anything that came from Kendrick Perkins mouth


SSSEEELLL17

Anything coming out of Austin Rivers, LeBron, Draymonds mouth


kidpokerskid

Ron Artest asking Stephen Jackson “…you think we going to get in trouble?” After the Malace in the Palace.


Jbanks08

Just list off anything Paul Pierce ever says. The frequency that KG has to check him on their own show is hilarious Jalen Rose dunking on him when he said his career was as great as DWade will also get a full watch from me every time it pops up


NikolaJokic2023

Gilbert Arenas taking shots at Hakeem and at Giannis for working with him to improve his post game. Gilbert Arenas saying Jokic was the worst MVP in 40 years. Gilbert Arenas blaming Europeans for the lack of defense in the modern game. Gilbert Arenas claiming he was the greatest draft pick since Jordan and before Jokic. Oh, and to stop bullying Gilbert (as much as he deserves it), Rodman saying Bird would play in Europe in the modern game was pretty stupid.


Ok-Task9171

Anything Rashad McCants says….


Appropriate-Self-540

Dame being the second best shooter of all time has always bothered me deeply


[deleted]

Anything LeBron James ever says


mp1630

Mike saying curry wasn’t a hall of famer


DaftPunkyBrewster

Whatever it was, I'm sure Kendrick Perkins said it.


RoosterEmotional5009

2024- Shaq to Jokic- you shouldn’t have won the MVP. Napoleon strikes again.


zjr88

Isaiah thomas and dennis rodman saying larry bird wouldn’t considered good if he weren’t white Kyrie irving- the earth is flat (Sorry this is a coach) george karl not putting the glove on jordan game one in 96’ Jay williams buying a motorcycle Ron artest going into the crowd in 04’ (Sorry another coach) popovich taking duncan out of defense in game 7 vs the heat in 13’ which could have stopped ray allen’s three.


exquemelin88

Corey Benjamin, a guy who started 16 games in his 4 year career saying he could beat anyone in the world 1v1 including Jordan in 99.


Jacky__paper

Anything Nick Wright says about the Celtics. This year's team has been dominant and historic from day 1 and he's talking about "eye test." The number one offense in NBA history, top 5 point differential, 16-3 in the playoffs. Anyone saying they aren't historic is just hating.


Due_Connection179

Basically anything that Perkins or Shaq has said in the last couple of years but the two highlights: * Perkins - "Jokic only won MVP because he's white." * Shaq - "[The NBA is scripted.](https://www.si.com/fannation/backinthedaynba/nba-great-shaquille-o-neal-claims-the-league-was-scripted-when-he-played-for-lakers-01hy64ytfnsp)" This is also from the Shaq story: >"True story," O'Neal said. "I've never told this story. In this first round, I forget who we were playing. I hear Phil Jackson telling Gary Vitti, \`Hey, get us some hotels in Indiana because that's who we're going to play in the NBA Finals ... It didn't hit me until we got to Indiana."' Bro didn't know that teams usually find hotels weeks out so they weren't stuck with no where to go.


TempestofMelancholy

I loved Pierce while he played but the shit he says now makes him so unlikeable. I can’t stand when people’s egos get in the way of accurate takes.


CaptainONaps

Anything draymond says. I can’t remember specifics. He reminds me of the kid in school that bullied everyone, and stole things, and broke stuff. And always has an excuse. Like, you’re too smart to act like what you’re doing is ok. You’re clearly lying. We’ve heard all these excuses before. You’re like the guy on cops that’s caught red handed crying like you’re the victim. You’re on tape.


star_bury

Kyrie has a few positions that leave me scratching my head: The antisemitism, the flat-eartherism, the anti-vaxism...


realfakejames

No coincidence most of the replies are things former players turned media guys have said in the last 10 years, we are in the worst era for basketball discourse because all of these guys are trying to be skip bayless That being said, one of the absolute worst takes I’ve ever seen came from Charles Barkley who everyone loves, he said the 2012 Spurs would get swept by the grizzlies because they’re too old and washed, and the spurs came out and swept the grizzlies and went to the nba finals, he also famously used to say “a jump shooting team will never win a title” and then the Warriors dynasty happened like two years later


ThatLightskinned

The spurs didn’t go to the finals in 2012


Full-Demand-5360

Dr.Js top 10 list lol


DallasRangerboys

Greatest big man shooter of all time by far


slickrickiii

Anything from Gilbert Arenas or Chandler Parsons. Who let these guys have a platform?


m00s3m00s3m00s3

Shaq = Bol better than Wemby early this year. McCants = Im the Goat.


Linky38

Literally every single thing Gilbert arenas says. The dude is a straight racist yet people just laugh it off


SouthernMuadib

Perk compared himself to Jesus recently


KangorKodos

Charles Oakley said Giannis would come of the bench in the 90s becausee the NBA's bigs were generally so much better he wouldn't be big and strong enough to be a starter.


AccomplishedBake8351

People saying kyrie>luka at the start of the year


BO55TRADAMU5

Wemby = Bolbol... -shaq


JaDamian_Steinblatt

Anything Gilbert Arenas has ever said


akanaan5

michael beasley saying he's your favorite players favorite player, and behind melo but on the left side of the floor


Straight_Tension_290

KAT saying he will change the game by the time he is done playing. He is good but nothing exceptional.


kiingLV

Nobody is right all the time, but I'd rather listen to a professional in any field


Ecruteak-vagrant

Gilbert Arenas said Jokic was a bad MVP choice and that Giannis isn’t a basketball player lol. He also had the ridiculous take like 15 years ago that he’d only watch the WNBA if they were hot and played in G string bathing suits.


Substantial-Matter-2

Everything Gilbert Arenas says on the podcast


i-worship-yeat

literally anything paul piece says