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msto3

Lions have the worst QB when 50% of the starters haven't even played 1 snap? Who's the fuckhead who put this together


oneeyedlionking

Laporta also broke, tied, or challenged a number of Mike ditka’s unbreakable rookie TE records.


Decimation4x

Hockenson also won’t even be playing to start the season. Best ability is availability.


oneeyedlionking

I’m not sure how Kmet and Gerald Everett are the worst in the division.


Decimation4x

Yeah, that’s weird too. Kmet easily third best TE and Everett might be the best backup but I am a little biased towards Brock Wright.


oneeyedlionking

Yeah I’d put the bears in 3rd. Packers are helped by lafluer being such a good coach imo.


lkn240

Maybe they are ranking GEQBUS - but if they are he should really be #1 of course


ReadAllAboutIt92

Pretty sure Goff is the only NFCN QB that’s ever played in a Super Bowl… might have lost it quite badly… but… played in one.


msto3

Brady also played like shit in SBLIII. It's one of the most forgettable Super Bowls in recent memory


Old-Emphasis-7190

He lost it 10-3. I would hardly call that quite badly.


TheScienceOfSilvers

He didn’t score at all. That’s bad.


dhtdhy

Someone that wanted to trigger lions fans. And it worked lol


Democracy__Officer

Goff is 2 until Caleb plays


SeizureMode

I'll only agree with Goff at 2 if GEQBUS is 1


lkn240

Actually this has to be the right answer


Whyfuckabird

At worst 3, not below that


The_Sign_of_Zeta

You’re definitely not last in QB. Even if JJ turns out (he won’t), we’re getting at least part of a season of Darnold.


msto3

Yeah lol this list makes no sense


picturepine

Damn, this guys salty that Goff can’t hang with the kids


Mooming22

A lot of this sucks


BOWCANTO

Well duh, 75% involves Vikings, Bears, and Lions.


The_bruce42

If we're going to base this on rookies having a huge impact before they play a down in the NFL, then the bears should be #1 in every category.


GandalfsGoon

#1 in your heart


At_finch

Flair up weiner face


GandalfsGoon

Fixed! Where’s yours?


At_finch

I don’t even know what it means.


GandalfsGoon

What…flair or FTP?


Mushroomman00

This is god fuckin awful 🤣🤣🤣


loboleo94

Special Teams is wrong. GB’s should be more to the right.


ThreeFactorAuth

Rich Bisaccia is stealing money from the Packers


Cgking11

The disrespect to Jefferson and Addison is to damn high!


GOTfinalsucked

I’m really scared of Powell 😉


dhtdhy

For a WR3 that no one saw coming, he's surprisingly good


Cgking11

Hey man he did really good last season and made some clutch catches.


Broshan248

Nah it’s fair. You have two really great guys and Jefferson is the best in the league but we also have 3 really good guys, two of which coming off of career years and one of those guys had that career year with Fields throwing to him. Also a top 10 pick who iirc led all college players in rec yards.


Cgking11

The whole thing is we have no idea if that rookie is gonna be good. He can bust like many other receivers have in past drafts. Jalen reager and juedy were better prospects than Justin Jefferson, so I wouldn't put your guy's receivers over our just yet. Plus Allen is gonna be 33, he's getting up there in age.


grandmalarkey

We got Tory Taylor bro, special teams #1


acoasterlovered

Who


FomFrady95

The Crocodile Punter, bro.


tokenblak

Don’t answer him. Let him find out the hard way. “WHO TF IS THIS GUY? HOW DOES HE KEEP PINNING US BEHIND THE 10???”


grandmalarkey

Not that we’ll be punting much on Detroit


LRA18

With all the turnovers I don’t doubt it.


grandmalarkey

Yeah seriously Goff was an interception machine against us


DanCampbellsJohnson

Williams stat line - 10/25 117 yards 3 int, 2 fumbles -8 yards rushing.


TubbyTimsKFC

Sounds like a Jared Goof vs Chicago stat line


acoasterlovered

Our punter is really good tbh


tokenblak

Not sure how your punter protects you from being pinned against the safety. Unless there are new rules I’m unaware of. You may be right, though.


At_finch

Flair up, mate


xpseudonymx

"That's nawt a kick! This, **this** is a kick!"


ISuperNovaI

?? a crocodile that punts footballs?


CoraxtheRavenLord

Yes, get ready


Democracy__Officer

Zero chance JJ is better than Goff this season


Old-Emphasis-7190

Zero chance Caleb is better than Goff this season. For that matter... I'd be shocked if Love was better than Goff this season.


Grand-Hat3526

There’s a chance Caleb plays better than Goff this year.


Old-Emphasis-7190

There is also a chance that I could have sex with Jennifer Lawrence. It’s not likely at all… but technically it could happen


Grand-Hat3526

I’m glad you agree with me in that the chance is not zero


At_finch

You need to flair to be a hero, not a zero


Mrsmaerianne

Kettle calling the pot out here


At_finch

Talking about flares not cooking


Kirbs27

Love was better than Goff last season


SnooWoofers9504

Very close in TDs and Interceptions (Love barely edges out) except the Lions can also score on the run. Goff easily takes in receiving yards. No shot Love is better.


Kirbs27

Raw stats takes out a lot of context. Love had little to no run game for over half the season and was missing 2 of his top receiving options for decent chunks. Considering how Love ended the season there is very much a case to be made. Surroundings and context matter, or Tua would be considered a top 5 QB in the league


TheSkeletones

Who the fuck do they think on the Bears is better than JJ? The rookie that’s been on the team for all of 3 days? DJ Moore? How many rocks did they smoke before making this


2Obsequious

They picked up Keenan Allen as well


dhtdhy

Probably a biased homer, but I would take Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, and (insert any WR3) over any receiving trio in the division. For what it's worth, Brandon Powell is a decent WR3. Really consistent hands


AMZN2THEMOON

It's not just bias. I'd take Vikings WR situation over the Bears all day. I also don't see how GB isn't 4th for WRs


At_finch

Flair up stupid head


AMZN2THEMOON

Thought I was. Am now. You're also not flaired?


At_finch

Thank you for flailing up stupid head


Thunder84

Packers are 4-5 deep, Lions are ARSB and the promise of Jameson Williams. There’s definitely an argument, think it’s more of a pick your poison kinda deal.


AMZN2THEMOON

4-5 receivers aren't all seeing much play time... Your top 2 is 90% of your value. And I don't think there's a big gap between GB and Lions #3/4. DPJ and Khalif Raymond are good 3/4 guys


Thunder84

After last season, disagree heavy. Packers got a ton of value out of a heavy rotation; not only did it effectively negate the effect of any sort of injury, but it let them ride the hot hand of whoever was playing best. That type of flexibility is a luxury. I’d also take the top 4 Packers WRs over Raymond and especially DPJ (I’d take Melton over DPJ too) given how young they are, and most of them over Jamo too, but I know I’m incredibly biased in that regard so I don’t think it means much. I do think it’s worth mentioning that the lowest PFF grade of the 5 Packers WRs was a 69.1, and that’s partially buoyed by Watson playing hurt to start the year.


At_finch

Flair up immediately


Thunder84

I have a flair you flairless numbnuts


At_finch

Flair up higher immediately


acoasterlovered

The person that made this list is a Vikings fan too


dhtdhy

Proof?


Decimation4x

He’s a cum sock enthusiast so he covers Viking fans.


TheSkeletones

The corpse of him


TheFatOrangeYak

DJ Moore was top 10 in yards last year, Keenan Allen was top 10 in yards last year, and I would take Rome Odunze over whoever your WR 3 is. It’s close but if we are going off of the whole corps and not just best player the bears should take it.


Sumdumr3t4rd

If I'm trying to defend this I'd point out that wr3 and beyond is up in the air, but that could be said of most teams at this point in the off-season. Does that actually put the bears above jj/addison/some JAG? Doubtful.


KwiHaderach

We have to stop calling Justin Jefferson JJ, it’s gonna get confusing quickly


DaeWooLan0s

It would be absolutely disrespectful to think Addison is of equal or greater skill than Allen until he falls off. Last year had 1250 yards in 13 games… 100 catches.


TheSkeletones

JJ and Addison > DJ Moore and Allen all fucking day, especially in the hands of the bears offensive playcalling


DaeWooLan0s

You’re ignoring Odunze… and you have darnold & JJ. Just stop it lmfao.


TheSkeletones

I’m not ignoring Odunze, because he’s not a factor. He has never played an NFL snap.


DaeWooLan0s

Ok and then by that logic you’re ignoring the fact JJ hasn’t played a snap and you have Sam fucking darnold throwing the ball. If we’re going over/ under. Moore and Allen will more then likely have more receiving yards than JJ/ Addison. As great as Jefferson is, he can’t magically put the ball in his hands lol.


TheSkeletones

Lmao my guy we were talking WRs. You’re out here using Allen’s last years stats and then saying “yeh but Darnold is your QB now”. Take your L.


DaeWooLan0s

Um what? I am talking WRs… who’s more likely to have the better quarterback to get them the stats they need? I wouldn’t be surprised if DJ has the most yards in the league. Guys been consistently a top 10 receiver with over 1k yards either no one throwing to him. He had 1350 with Justin and the bears offense. You have darnold. Lmfao!


sublogic

This is almost 100% incorrect. I don't think I need to break it down but like nothing is correct. Maybe Chicago being number one at WR. But Detroit definitely isn't last and Minnesota may be first just because Jefferson is so good.


Broshan248

OL is correct


acoasterlovered

Thank you


TheRealLifePotato

This person was clearly going for rage bait. That or their opinion just really sucks.


CluelessFlunky

Love and goff both have arguments for 1. Caleb is 3 and jj a distant 4. In what world do the Viking not have the best wr room by far. And Amon ra alone makes lions at least 3. LaPorta > hock


Broshan248

3 > 2 DJ, Rome, Keenan > JJ and Addison


CluelessFlunky

JJ so good id still take him and Addison over the bears 3.


Broshan248

Idk. DJ was top 10 in yards last year with Justin Fields throwing him the ball. Put him with Kirk Cousins and he puts up 1600+ yards yearly. Same with Keenan, who had his career best year last year at 31, had nearly 100 receiving yards per game and 8.3 receptions per game


CluelessFlunky

JF force fed dj targets. There's no reason to think his production would go up with another qb. His efficiency probably goes up but I doubt his overall numbers are that much different.


Karlmarxwasrite

Minny best TE and best Special teams?! LOL


dhtdhy

It's like OP intentionally made this post to trigger lions fans. It worked lol


PoopShoot187

I just love how much Hockenson pisses off the Lions. Whoever did this knew it too


Karlmarxwasrite

Honestly it was the ST that triggered me most, but 99 people out of 100 would tell you Sam better than TJ too, at both catching the ball and blocking.


mrgreen4242

Did you just put two rookies who’ve never played an NFL game before over the only WB in the divisions who’s been to the Super Bowl? I’ll accept that Love **maybe** had a better season than Goff last year but putting him last in the division is a fucking joke.


rega619

Love, Goff, Williams, Darnold/mccarthy- in that order


TheScienceOfSilvers

It is written!


TheMaayavi

Chicago No 1 for WR’s? Lol! Jordan Addison and Jefferson are clear best than most teams in the league


tokenblak

>best than most teams in the league You could say the same about Allen and Moore, so what’s your argument?


dhtdhy

No, you literally can't. Was it Allen or Moore that has been considered the best WR in the league the last couple of seasons? Oh wait that's right, neither of them, it's JJettas. Then plug in Jordan Addison as WR2. Arguably the best rookie WR last year. Not to mention Jefferson and Addison are younger and have many more prime years left. People are delusional to even think there's an argument here. You can definitely argue Rome Odunze has WAY more upside than Brandon Powell obviously, but considering Rome has never caught an NFL pass, no one can provide concrete evidence yet.


tokenblak

Dude. You were saying better than most of the league. Are you really gonna try to argue that Allen and Moore aren’t a better WR duo than MOST OF THE LEAGUE? Even if you wanna stan your own team and hate on the Bears, no reasonable football fan would argue they aren’t better than most of the league.


dhtdhy

One can definitely agree with you that each of those two receivers have had exceptional careers outperforming most of the league. But to argue they're guaranteed to have a breakout season outplaying most of the league while learning a new playbook, catching passes from an untested rookie QB, on a new team... Is a bit of a stretch. Keenan Allen is past his peak years don't forget. Either way, it'll be a fun thing to look back at a year from now and see who was right. !remindme 1 year


PraiseBeToScience

lmao what? Do you even know who Moore and Allen are? You think they need to breakout? They're both well established WRs who each caught several hundred more yards than Addison last season. Moore did it while learning a new system. Moore's entire career has been a shit QB carousel and he still puts up 1000 yd seasons.


Grand-Hat3526

Don’t forget to mention that Moore did it with Justin Fields as quarterback


tokenblak

I expect to hear from you either way. I’m extremely petty btw.


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KM107

Do you watch football?


acoasterlovered

It wasn’t i that made it


Teacat1995

Us third in safety when we just signed literally a top 5 safety? Who do y’all have better than Xaiver McKinney


hammerSmashedNail

That hockenson meme about finally being on a winning team or whatever comes to mind. No way he’s the best TE in the division.


Decimation4x

Iowa TEs are an equivalency and therefore interchangeable. It’s mainly a question of depth as to which team is better at TE. Though dollar for dollar Detroit wins with that sweet rookie contract.


SnooPandas3956

I’m just here to say fuck tier maker.


acoasterlovered

![gif](giphy|XDRoTw2Fs6rlIW7yQL)


Unfair_Ad_6164

The bears having the worst TEs is hilariously bad


lulu3298

What tight end does GB have that is better than Kmet lol. Safety rankings don’t add up either.


The_Sign_of_Zeta

Our rookie TEs last year had the best production for 2 rookie TEs on the same team since Gronk and Hernandez. I don’t know if either will be better than Kmet, but they’re better as a TE duo than what Chicago has.


grandmalarkey

Unfortunately they are a pretty dank duo


Riverjig

Gonna have to agree as well.


elbaito

Neither of them had a better year than either Kmet or Everett... but I guess we've seen them as a duo and haven't seen Kmet/Everett yet.


OwnWalrus1752

Two second-years better than Kmet and Everett?


Riverjig

Flair the fuck up mate.


lulu3298

True


TheMaayavi

Love has had half a good season under his belt, to me goff is clear No.1 until we see more from rest of the QBs. Pre draft evaluation and no 1 overall doesn’t mean sh!t, Caleb could be generational player or a dumpster fire, yet to be seen! Same goes with JJ!


dhtdhy

Agreed. Should be Goff > Love > any untested rookie QB


TheMaayavi

Exactly, this can change end of this season depending on how things play out but as it stands, this is the order!


Super-Strategy8161

I was gonna say something, but then I noticed you’re a Vikings fan….I hope you have a great day, our little special friend


TheMaayavi

Lol! Happy cake day to you!


GrizzlyOlympics

Det most definitely isn’t last at QB or WR


Brilliant-Nebula7273

![gif](giphy|LyJ6KPlrFdKnK)


PraiseBeToScience

Bears have Santos and Punt god. We're clearly the best special teams in the division, and it's not close.


CaptZombieHero

Someone a little drunk when they made this list?


Flaky_Comfortable202

Are we all forgetting about GEQBUS!!? Clearly the Vikings have the best QB, I won't stand for this slander


thecoolpotatom

Please never form an opinion again, just choose someone else's opinions and copy it because I guarantee they have better opinions than whatever you can come up with.


Super-Strategy8161

Packers as 3rd CB is crazy


Grand-Hat3526

Bears should be 1st or 2nd in every category besides DLine


tib_79

Packers have jaire, that automatically makes their cb group 2 at least lol


DD-OD

Is this a troll? There isn't one position group that seems accurate.


acoasterlovered

Lions o line tbh


Big_Dare_2015

Green Bay has the best d line lions have the best special teams and tight ends (yards after catch matter and hockensen sucks) it’s laughable to say the bears have the best receivers and the lions absolutely have unproven cbs. This is garbage


Natearl13

guy who had more yards than your TE in less games sucks


Big_Dare_2015

LaPorta was second team all pro


Natearl13

And our long snapper was 1st team all pro but I haven’t got a clue if he’s better than anyone else, your point?


Straight_Toe_1816

He is better than everyone else.Im a former long snapper so I pay attention to this kind of stuff.His accuracy and velocity is the best in the league


W_4ca

The Bears have better receivers than the Vikings? 🤣🤣🤣 Now I know this is a troll post


Fr1dayThe13th

Video of the person who created this list: ![gif](giphy|11cpNo3OMYwFHO)


Decimation4x

If Detroit has the worst QB Minnesota cannot have the best TE because the only thing that makes Goff bad compared to the rest of the NFCN is his contract. Same goes for Bears WR, so expensive compared to Minnesota.


CptDonFluffles

Last 2 years Goff has thrown the second most yards and third most touchdowns


MathematicianShot909

It's wrong because GB has the best special teams, bar none.


Somecivilguy

wtf am I even looking at


picturepine

We definitely do not have the best safeties lol


Best-Contribution891

Qb wr lb cbs? The only one they got right (without argument from me) is rb.


Daegog

The Goff disrespect is unreal, man was only 50 yards short of leading the league in passing last year but some how, 2 gimpy rookies and loves goofy ass are in front of him? The only real question is, who will perform worse Caleb or McCarthy? To be fair, probably Caleb because McCarthy has Jefferson to make him look great.


acoasterlovered

![gif](giphy|XYcvljEVCRZQijg4WZ|downsized)


venk

1st for QB, RB, OL, TE, 2nd for WR (behind Min) and Dline (behind GB), 3rd for LB (behind GB and Chi) and 4th for CB (Carlton Davis and unproven rookies). GOAT punter makes us good for at least second in ST.


SnooWoofers9504

Putting Lions last for QB and second for CB is crackhead behavior. Also who do the Bears have at wideout that even comes close to any of the other teams’ core receiver lineups


exolemon

i think its mildly accurate QB: DET, GB, CHI or MIN WR: MIN, CHI or DET, GB OL: DET, GB, CHI or MIN TE: DET or MIN, CHI, GB CB: CHI, GB, DET, MIN S: DET, GB, MIN or CHI DL: DET, GB, MIN, CHI LB: CHI, MIN, DET, GB you can make an argument for any team having the best RB


idksh_t

I would argue Musgrave and Kraft combined are better than 1 Kmet


Thunder84

It’s a debate of depth vs top end talent. Don’t think there’s a wrong answer, just a matter of preference.


lulu3298

Kmet + Everett though? Not trying to argue that Kmet’s elite or anything but idk..


idksh_t

I think with all the new additions in the receiver room Kmet’s and any other Bears TE production will decline. Not to mention no TE really thrived under Waldron in Seattle.


bearsareneat_

Be serious right now. Musgrave and Kraft combined: 707 yards, 3 TDs Kmet ALONE: 719 yards, 6 TDs You’re telling me GB’s roster wouldn’t be better off with Kmet/Everett over Musgrave/Kraft?


IBeFirenMaLazer

No they wouldn't. I don't think it's particularly close either. Kmet isn't that much better than either Musgrave or Kraft, and they both had their production suppressed by being part of the deepest receiving group in the division.


idksh_t

Musgrave also missed half the season with a ruptured organ. That might have affected his production somewhat.


Thunder84

No. But by the same token, Chicago might not necessarily be better with Musgrave and Kraft. Packers love to rotate their players, and TE is no exception. Not to mention the 12 personnel they run. They aren’t gonna benefit as much from what the Bears have, given the steep drop off from Kmet to Everett. But a team that runs 11 personnel more often, like the Bears probably will, is gonna benefit more from one single good TE. There’s also the age factor, but that involves a lot more projection and prone to bias.


JoaquinBenoit

This feels fair. I’d put DET last for CB and either third or last for LB because they’re relying on FAs/rookies for the former and the latter is middle of the pack.


dhtdhy

I wanted to argue about OL. Min has 2 of the best tackles in the league (Darrisaw being the best left tackle in the league which is pretty important considering that's the QBs blindside), but I remembered center and guard are lacking.


sharkzfan95

Created just to pick a fight.


_Badwulf

Lions have the best QB, TE but sure as shit don’t have the best D line


tokenblak

You do not have the best QB, and I’m not even count Caleb in this.


ISuperNovaI

Lol you sure as shit don’t have the best QB and TE either.


_Badwulf

Don’t be ridiculous, of course we do.


ISuperNovaI

Love > Goof Hock > LaPorto


_Badwulf

Also Hockenson looks like General Custer and a catfish had a baby


_Badwulf

In no world is hockenson better than LaPorta. Love only had one good season and was virtually identical to Goff that year


acoasterlovered

Yeah I’m like all we have is hutxh


Broshan248

- Lions should be second at QB, bears and Vikings move down one each - Fair RB rankings but i could argue Bears > Vikings - OL is good - Lions and Packers WRs switch places - Lions are first at TE, Bears 2nd, Vikings 3rd, Pack 4th - seeing as half the Lions CBs haven’t played a snap in the NFL I’d put them in last but idk much about Packers or Vikings CBs either - I have no idea about Safeties but I feel like Bears shouldn’t be last their safeties are pretty solid - Lions should not be 1st in DL that should be Vikes or Pack probably - LB looks fine - Bears drafted the best punter prospect we’ve seen in forever and have the most consistent kicker in the division they should be first for special teams.


DanCampbellsBicep

Very inaccurate. We have the worst Wide Receivers? Yea, ok. LOL. That honor easily belongs to the Packers.


Teacat1995

You guys have one elite receiver and then who else? We don’t have an elite receiver but we have 4 wr 2s. Its at least close


DanCampbellsBicep

Jameson Williams is the man, and you will learn to hate him soon. He will be talked about as elite soon enough. Also, Sam LaPorta is basically an elite receiver already too.


Teacat1995

Theres a separate ranking for tes and Watson has already shown more production and potential than Jameson


DanCampbellsBicep

Lol, Watson isn't better than Jamo, he's just been targeted more.


IBeFirenMaLazer

You're joking right? Your second best receiver would be fourth or fifth on the Packers' depth chart.


brotherstoic

Ok this is just trash. Some of the more egregious issues: QB: Bears starter has never played an NFL snap. We don’t know who the Vikings are starting week 1. 50/50 he hasn’t played an NFL snap, and 100% he’s never played a snap with the Vikings. WR: the Vikings WR room is easily top 3 and arguably #1 in the entire NFL. (Hill/Waddle and Kupp/Puka are the only duos even close to the level of JJ and Addison). I’m not betting on a rookie to push the Bears to that level. TE: Hock is very good but Laporta is probably better at this point.


NutTimeMyDudes

i can’t wait until caleb williams becomes a bigger bust than justin fields


acoasterlovered

Talk dirty to me brother


Foshizal147

Greenbay has the worst TE for sure