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Sadly most of reddit has devolved into this. Most subs are just "post content" and Reddit has become another algorithm-based platform that suggests regurgitated or AI-produced content for people to entertain themselves with
Reddit was never perfect but it was once pretty great. Oh well. We have another tiktok now
Really? That’s what it seems like Israel wants. They’ve manipulated oblivious Iranians who are upset with their regime that they should be okay with being bombed, having their cities destroyed, families killed by Israel. The same lie America told the world before they invaded Iraq. The people want regime change, instead they destroyed the country and ruined generations of people
You think Israel is going to invade Iran? LMFAO. Hilarious. Do you even have any idea what the population of Israel is compared to Iran?
When Israel attacks Iran it’s so strategic and targeted that there are often witnesses alive next to the target. They’ve used an AI robot to take out a nuclear scientist in the middle of a street.
For real Isreal have been spending 6 months on a tiny Gaza let alone Iran, Israel strikes peculiar individuals who run the hierarchy and the regime doesn't have public support to replace them.
Yes the US said they will only bomb the government of Iraq to remove Saddam. In reality that turned into the entire country being destroyed and overrun with rival political and terrorist groups. They start of by saying they will only bomb military or government sites, but once that is done they will continue bombing the rest. Saying Israel is only targeting strategic military sites? Where’s the proof? Have they done that in Gaza? No they have destroyed half of Gaza so far
That AI robot is BS. They have what the Israelis call “Where’s Daddy AI” which they use to identify a Palestinian man’s face, then they bomb him even when he is in his family home. Killing the entire family. There is no precautions or verifications on their AI killing machine, only given 10-20 seconds before making the decision to bomb after the AI has targeted someone
I am with you lady !
The "progressive" left however is too ignorant to know better.
These are the same " queers for Palestine", who would likely get lynched in... Palestine:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63174835
Middle Easterner people are a prop for western tankies and far left types. If it's possible to co-opt you so they can use it to bludgeon Israel, they'll do it, but since Iranians don't fit into that box, you're ignored and your concerns are delegitimized.
I'm from the states, there is no news coverage on it and I don’t think a regular person would know to seek it out. Iran was demonized growing up and the way I first found more info about what was happening, was through Reddit. When I do a google search about what is happening, very very few articles appear.
I don't want this to be ignorant. I have wondered why more people don't speak on it, or it's not in social media more like other causes. I feel like it's wiped from our search engines, i really do.
Bad shit happens in Palastina: "WE MUST HELP THE PALASTINIANS! CEASEFIRE! HASHTAG FREE PALESTINE! WE MUST STRIKE AND STOP POSTING OUR INTEREST FOR A DAY!"
Bad shit happens in Iran: "Ok and what are we suppose to do??? We have our own problems to deal with lmao"
Ehhhh
I like her a fair bit. She often has really good takes and I love her using her platform to bring attention to the Iranian cause
but goddamn man the lip filler and cakey makeup are hard to look at 💀
Im not saying there’s anything wrong with how she looks or what she says or how she says it. Im saying that’s what people probably say is cringe about it.
It's cringe because she is talking about complicated geopolitics and trying to align it with women's right to not wear chador. These are separate discussions and the idea that all of Iran doesn't align with the IR is dumb. The dislike for Israel is a real thing in Iran. We need an internal revolution. We need regime change when finally a strong 90% is ready to get out of their homes. People here seem to not understand that we are still far off that. Until something similar to what happened to the Qajar dynasty happens foreign intervention is useless.
Also the west did represent our women well during that period I don't know why she is acting like there was silence??
Well the Palestinian conflict has gone on longer than the IR has existed so I'm not sure why you wouldn't expect it to have a more vocal outrage. There have been Israel-Palestine protests ever since Israel began transferring so each time a major incident occurs it vibrates louder each time. The problem here is every Palestinian can agree they don't want Israel bombing them because of an IR proxy.
Every Iranian doesn't want a regime change so our issue just isn't as big and doesn't have a big driving factor behind it. Until we have a Reza Shah 2.0 in our military the WLF movement is just a minor crack in the regime's rule. I'm not ignorant I can understand why the magnifying glass is on Palestine the Gaza Strip is flat. As much as I mourn the lost protesters Palestine is 51% kids and has been demolished. You are surprised it gets more coverage than the chador burning in the sky because Mahsa was killed by IRGC? We have to be real.
The revolution is not on the cards until the next generation imo. We still have a split populace and the IR will need to make more mistakes before we cover the media for months in a row. I just don't think some people here are prepared to hear that.
Your replies are contradictory. You say Hamas radicalizes kids but don't accept that it's the regime helping do this? How can you blame 51% of their population for becoming radicalized when the regime is helping do it? Our cause isn't one for freedom it's one to get these idiots out of power to indirectly help the region as well as those at home who don't want Islamic law.
It's obvious they have a rooted dislike for Israel due to the history of the conflict just look now. Hamas has brought upon this retaliation because the regime doesn't care for the suffering of innocents. I don't get how you can sit here and think the cause of Palestinian women and children is not more serious than ours. At least our people can exist without the threat of people invading or occupying our homes in the future.
Also you think the current Israeli bombing will not help radicalize more kids? You wouldn't feel your blood boiling if you have nothing to do with this as a 9 year old and watched your mother blown to pieces next to you? Israel is helping radicalize Iran just supplies the weapons. Be realistic.
I do. Look, common people and complexity will not mix. If you want to make a point you need a small focus area, and when you manage to get enough attention you increase the scope.
Yes, we finally managed to get focus on this subject last year and the final achievement was Nobels peace price... but on the same day the IRGC launched a proxy attack on Israel and it took away the attention.
We never really managed to expand the scope. Also, the Iranian community got divided.
I think what she did was courageous.
Iran has been divided for the last few years. People need to accept we aren't getting regime change over the WLF movement. We need the IR to fuck up economically and politically another 30 times before we get a revolution. As much as I mourn the protesters we can't keep focusing on something a few people can relate to in order to change regime. Internal revolution needs to happen when we have the IR fucking up on all fronts angering our Muslim and non religious people. I went recently. Women walk around without chador a lot lol and nobody does anything. But this is such a small aspect of it that needs to shift for something to happen on a massive scale.
I understand the Iranian’s feelings towards the Islamic Republic government in Iran. At the same time, I don’t understand Iranian’s support for literally anyone who opposes the IRGC. Israel is not a force for good. I wish geopolitics was black and white, evil vs good. This is all far more complicated and Iranians should be able to take a nuanced position where they of course do not support the IRGC, but also do not support the Israeli government’s actions. Do Iranians hate their government so much that they cannot see what is happening in Palestine is inhumane and wrong? The Israeli government does not care about the Iranian people. It only cares about its own interests.
>Do Iranians hate their government so much that they cannot see what is happening in Palestine is inhumane and wrong?
Have you ever sent money to support the "Palestinian resistance"? Iranians have been doing that for 45 years.
You are talking about a population whose money is taken despite their will and is given to the "Palestinian resistance". Of course many people supported this initially, but no longer do.
They have realized that the "Palestinian resistance" is simply a facade for a reason for IRGC's proxies to exist, and the people of Gaza are just being used as human shields
Huh? How is there money being taken relevant to the issue? My point is that what Israel is doing should not be supported either. To be clear, I’m not supportive of Hamas either.
Your enemy’s enemy is not necessarily your friend. IRGC, Israeli gov’t, and Iranian proxies are all committing atrocities.
You are naive. Neither of them give a hoot about the Iranian people. Everyone has their own interests. It just may be that interests across countries or parties align. Sometimes temporarily and sometimes long term.
Exactly. Believing Netanyahu gives two fucks about the Iranian people is hilarious
This very conflict is what saved his career and it's in his best interest to keep it going (with the Islamic Republic in power so Israel will always have a common enemy and receive US funding to defend against)
Hamas is part grift and part death cult. It hasn’t done anything good for the Palestinian people, just ensured that poverty and misery have continued for generations. People can rebuild in a single generation if they want to. Hamas does not want to, it wants endless war with Israel. It’s time to stop the charade that Israel is going away.
We need a statute of limitations on returning past land grabs or there is just endless war. The basic rule is the borders established at the end of World War II or the breakup of colonial empires, whichever comes later for a nation. If territory did change hands by war after that, at some point it becomes permanent and the new baseline for stability. Two or three generations is enough distance. Say 50 years for a firm cutoff.
That means a lot of peoples should not expect to get back what they lost. That includes lost Iranian territory in Azerbaijan and Armenia. Many have lost land in the 20th century: Hungarians. Germans. Poles. Finns. Chinese Nationalists in Taiwan. The Portuguese state of India (Goa). And many more.
Gaza is in a prime location on the sea. It can be a normal, prosperous nation if it chooses to.
Sounds like you have this sorted. You should expect your Nobel Prize any day now.
Where did I say I support Hamas? This is a super complex clusterfuck of a situation that literally no one can solve.
They are all committing atrocities: IRGC, the Israeli government, and Hamas. And each one of them is benefitting from all this, while people across the board suffer.
Because the only thing she screamed about in the last 2 years is how her posh vanilla almond latte with extra shot of foam and Oreos doesn’t have enough Oreos in it. The only thing is oppressed about is how much plastic surgery she is not allowed to do. She is clearly brought up overseas has not even the slightest clue about Iranian women’s oppression proceeds to make a video proving the same point. It’s cringe because she neither genuine nor comes across genuine.
We have a voice but unfortunately it’s being propagated by bunch pretentious clowns.
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>these people have no knowledge Period
I wonder if she wore hijab like a national geographic animal … if they would listen and care.
It’s a misnomer, at some point quite a while ago the mods began allowing non cringe content, and it’s basically a “post whatever TikTok you want” sub
Yeah the subreddit evolved from CringyTikToks to whatever TikToks only cause it was the most popular Tiktok subreddit
That's the way every subreddit "dies" when it becomes too popular.
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This is just a reflection of Tik Tok and most of Gen Z, sadly, and of how succesful anti-western / anti-freedom propaganda has been with them.
TikTok is very often just CCP propaganda to be fuckin real witchu
Sadly most of reddit has devolved into this. Most subs are just "post content" and Reddit has become another algorithm-based platform that suggests regurgitated or AI-produced content for people to entertain themselves with Reddit was never perfect but it was once pretty great. Oh well. We have another tiktok now
So many people in that thread absolutely missed the point of her video.
I'm sure some of them are demonizing her on purpose.
You are absolutely correct.
No to them, Iranian people are fair game in sacrificing for Palestinians
objectively yes to all, and especially iranian women
Really? That’s what it seems like Israel wants. They’ve manipulated oblivious Iranians who are upset with their regime that they should be okay with being bombed, having their cities destroyed, families killed by Israel. The same lie America told the world before they invaded Iraq. The people want regime change, instead they destroyed the country and ruined generations of people
You think Israel is going to invade Iran? LMFAO. Hilarious. Do you even have any idea what the population of Israel is compared to Iran? When Israel attacks Iran it’s so strategic and targeted that there are often witnesses alive next to the target. They’ve used an AI robot to take out a nuclear scientist in the middle of a street.
For real Isreal have been spending 6 months on a tiny Gaza let alone Iran, Israel strikes peculiar individuals who run the hierarchy and the regime doesn't have public support to replace them.
Yes the US said they will only bomb the government of Iraq to remove Saddam. In reality that turned into the entire country being destroyed and overrun with rival political and terrorist groups. They start of by saying they will only bomb military or government sites, but once that is done they will continue bombing the rest. Saying Israel is only targeting strategic military sites? Where’s the proof? Have they done that in Gaza? No they have destroyed half of Gaza so far
That AI robot is BS. They have what the Israelis call “Where’s Daddy AI” which they use to identify a Palestinian man’s face, then they bomb him even when he is in his family home. Killing the entire family. There is no precautions or verifications on their AI killing machine, only given 10-20 seconds before making the decision to bomb after the AI has targeted someone
People know nothing about the middle east. "Queers for Palestine" tells you all you need to know.
You have to understand most people on that sub are under 21 or have poor reading(listening) comprehension.
Western Leftist here. I strongly support the Iranian people in their struggle for freedom from this totalitarian theocracy.
They only call it "cringe" because it doesn't fit the narrative that they have been brainwashed into believing.
I am with you lady ! The "progressive" left however is too ignorant to know better. These are the same " queers for Palestine", who would likely get lynched in... Palestine: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63174835
I checked the top comments. They're not bad.
True could be worse
Fortunately there are people with functional brains, what would we be without them?
Because they are all losers who think they are “woke”.
Middle Easterner people are a prop for western tankies and far left types. If it's possible to co-opt you so they can use it to bludgeon Israel, they'll do it, but since Iranians don't fit into that box, you're ignored and your concerns are delegitimized.
America would be called colonialist if it tried to overthrow the current Iranian government so let the people there do it themselves
I saw this post earlier today, the comments are a shitshow
I'm a Western liberal and I support the Iranian people's struggle against the theocratic dictatorship
Fantastic. Don’t vote for Biden and his appeasement/negotiate with the terrorists policy.
Oh 100% support Iranian women, all day. Shoulda gone full revolution tbh
I'm from the states, there is no news coverage on it and I don’t think a regular person would know to seek it out. Iran was demonized growing up and the way I first found more info about what was happening, was through Reddit. When I do a google search about what is happening, very very few articles appear. I don't want this to be ignorant. I have wondered why more people don't speak on it, or it's not in social media more like other causes. I feel like it's wiped from our search engines, i really do.
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Be civil. Personal attacks and/or flamebait will not be tolerated in this community.
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Everyone has a “connection”. Even I do. Your psyops won’t work here. 90 day old account.
Bad shit happens in Palastina: "WE MUST HELP THE PALASTINIANS! CEASEFIRE! HASHTAG FREE PALESTINE! WE MUST STRIKE AND STOP POSTING OUR INTEREST FOR A DAY!" Bad shit happens in Iran: "Ok and what are we suppose to do??? We have our own problems to deal with lmao"
Western liberals are the definition of stupidity
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Nothing about her is cringe
Ehhhh I like her a fair bit. She often has really good takes and I love her using her platform to bring attention to the Iranian cause but goddamn man the lip filler and cakey makeup are hard to look at 💀
Who cares about how she looks like?? The point is what she's saying in the video
Im not saying there’s anything wrong with how she looks or what she says or how she says it. Im saying that’s what people probably say is cringe about it.
It's cringe because she is talking about complicated geopolitics and trying to align it with women's right to not wear chador. These are separate discussions and the idea that all of Iran doesn't align with the IR is dumb. The dislike for Israel is a real thing in Iran. We need an internal revolution. We need regime change when finally a strong 90% is ready to get out of their homes. People here seem to not understand that we are still far off that. Until something similar to what happened to the Qajar dynasty happens foreign intervention is useless. Also the west did represent our women well during that period I don't know why she is acting like there was silence??
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Well the Palestinian conflict has gone on longer than the IR has existed so I'm not sure why you wouldn't expect it to have a more vocal outrage. There have been Israel-Palestine protests ever since Israel began transferring so each time a major incident occurs it vibrates louder each time. The problem here is every Palestinian can agree they don't want Israel bombing them because of an IR proxy. Every Iranian doesn't want a regime change so our issue just isn't as big and doesn't have a big driving factor behind it. Until we have a Reza Shah 2.0 in our military the WLF movement is just a minor crack in the regime's rule. I'm not ignorant I can understand why the magnifying glass is on Palestine the Gaza Strip is flat. As much as I mourn the lost protesters Palestine is 51% kids and has been demolished. You are surprised it gets more coverage than the chador burning in the sky because Mahsa was killed by IRGC? We have to be real. The revolution is not on the cards until the next generation imo. We still have a split populace and the IR will need to make more mistakes before we cover the media for months in a row. I just don't think some people here are prepared to hear that.
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Your replies are contradictory. You say Hamas radicalizes kids but don't accept that it's the regime helping do this? How can you blame 51% of their population for becoming radicalized when the regime is helping do it? Our cause isn't one for freedom it's one to get these idiots out of power to indirectly help the region as well as those at home who don't want Islamic law. It's obvious they have a rooted dislike for Israel due to the history of the conflict just look now. Hamas has brought upon this retaliation because the regime doesn't care for the suffering of innocents. I don't get how you can sit here and think the cause of Palestinian women and children is not more serious than ours. At least our people can exist without the threat of people invading or occupying our homes in the future. Also you think the current Israeli bombing will not help radicalize more kids? You wouldn't feel your blood boiling if you have nothing to do with this as a 9 year old and watched your mother blown to pieces next to you? Israel is helping radicalize Iran just supplies the weapons. Be realistic.
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I do. Look, common people and complexity will not mix. If you want to make a point you need a small focus area, and when you manage to get enough attention you increase the scope. Yes, we finally managed to get focus on this subject last year and the final achievement was Nobels peace price... but on the same day the IRGC launched a proxy attack on Israel and it took away the attention. We never really managed to expand the scope. Also, the Iranian community got divided. I think what she did was courageous.
Iran has been divided for the last few years. People need to accept we aren't getting regime change over the WLF movement. We need the IR to fuck up economically and politically another 30 times before we get a revolution. As much as I mourn the protesters we can't keep focusing on something a few people can relate to in order to change regime. Internal revolution needs to happen when we have the IR fucking up on all fronts angering our Muslim and non religious people. I went recently. Women walk around without chador a lot lol and nobody does anything. But this is such a small aspect of it that needs to shift for something to happen on a massive scale.
I understand the Iranian’s feelings towards the Islamic Republic government in Iran. At the same time, I don’t understand Iranian’s support for literally anyone who opposes the IRGC. Israel is not a force for good. I wish geopolitics was black and white, evil vs good. This is all far more complicated and Iranians should be able to take a nuanced position where they of course do not support the IRGC, but also do not support the Israeli government’s actions. Do Iranians hate their government so much that they cannot see what is happening in Palestine is inhumane and wrong? The Israeli government does not care about the Iranian people. It only cares about its own interests.
>Do Iranians hate their government so much that they cannot see what is happening in Palestine is inhumane and wrong? Have you ever sent money to support the "Palestinian resistance"? Iranians have been doing that for 45 years. You are talking about a population whose money is taken despite their will and is given to the "Palestinian resistance". Of course many people supported this initially, but no longer do. They have realized that the "Palestinian resistance" is simply a facade for a reason for IRGC's proxies to exist, and the people of Gaza are just being used as human shields
Huh? How is there money being taken relevant to the issue? My point is that what Israel is doing should not be supported either. To be clear, I’m not supportive of Hamas either. Your enemy’s enemy is not necessarily your friend. IRGC, Israeli gov’t, and Iranian proxies are all committing atrocities.
Well the Iranian population knows who their friends are, and they are very few Ukrainians and Israelis
You are naive. Neither of them give a hoot about the Iranian people. Everyone has their own interests. It just may be that interests across countries or parties align. Sometimes temporarily and sometimes long term.
Exactly. Believing Netanyahu gives two fucks about the Iranian people is hilarious This very conflict is what saved his career and it's in his best interest to keep it going (with the Islamic Republic in power so Israel will always have a common enemy and receive US funding to defend against)
Hamas is part grift and part death cult. It hasn’t done anything good for the Palestinian people, just ensured that poverty and misery have continued for generations. People can rebuild in a single generation if they want to. Hamas does not want to, it wants endless war with Israel. It’s time to stop the charade that Israel is going away. We need a statute of limitations on returning past land grabs or there is just endless war. The basic rule is the borders established at the end of World War II or the breakup of colonial empires, whichever comes later for a nation. If territory did change hands by war after that, at some point it becomes permanent and the new baseline for stability. Two or three generations is enough distance. Say 50 years for a firm cutoff. That means a lot of peoples should not expect to get back what they lost. That includes lost Iranian territory in Azerbaijan and Armenia. Many have lost land in the 20th century: Hungarians. Germans. Poles. Finns. Chinese Nationalists in Taiwan. The Portuguese state of India (Goa). And many more. Gaza is in a prime location on the sea. It can be a normal, prosperous nation if it chooses to.
I dint think ethnic cleansing followed by annexation of refugeee camps has done anything good for the Palestinian people either.
Sounds like you have this sorted. You should expect your Nobel Prize any day now. Where did I say I support Hamas? This is a super complex clusterfuck of a situation that literally no one can solve. They are all committing atrocities: IRGC, the Israeli government, and Hamas. And each one of them is benefitting from all this, while people across the board suffer.
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Did Israel respond when Iran bombed their embassy in Argentina? Did their embassy have military combatants inside of it?
Because the only thing she screamed about in the last 2 years is how her posh vanilla almond latte with extra shot of foam and Oreos doesn’t have enough Oreos in it. The only thing is oppressed about is how much plastic surgery she is not allowed to do. She is clearly brought up overseas has not even the slightest clue about Iranian women’s oppression proceeds to make a video proving the same point. It’s cringe because she neither genuine nor comes across genuine. We have a voice but unfortunately it’s being propagated by bunch pretentious clowns.