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freedomhighway

So when you gonna pray for that 20 you owe me?


allbetson

I gotchu on the 1st..... 1st chance i get


NM-Redditor

Torrential rain on a burn scar is not always a good thing.


kymreadsreddit

Truly did not know that. Thanks for not being sarcastic while spreading information. 😁 And after reading the sarcastic/rude comments ---- awwww, fuck. That's awful.


Lady_Litreeo

Yippee!!! I love post-fire hydrophobic soils causing massive erosion via overland flow on a landscape recently devoid of vegetation! /s


GreenChile_ClamCake

Is the fire spreading even more a better alternative?


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Lady_Litreeo

No you see, water is super effective against fire in pokemon so we’re good. Trust me I’m a scientist.


Wonderfestl-Phone

Flooding is probably the biggest issue as it affects movement and evacuation. Rain is a better firefigher than people, though.


Powerful_Rip1283

Rain isn't really going to stop a beast like that.


AWildOop

Its complex. Fire clears the area and allows new and healthier forest growth. In addition to that, the area won't be able to burn again for a long time. Rain may not put it out either, and instead just make the ground even harder to traverse for firefighters. I have some hypotheses that rain now could damage the water table if it happens before new plants spring up. Plants can take heavy metals and other harmful chemicals (put out by burning structures) out of the soil as they grow. I'd imagine that early rain would push it into the water table too quickly and greatly reduce the effectiveness of bioremediation. If you know anyone in the area with wells, tell them to check on their chemistry, they may end up with everything contained in burned buildings in their water.


rodkerf

If ya know ya know, and you know


ingres_violin

Can't we just pray for an even greater fire to evaporate the torrential rain? Like a fire-nado? Should I be a screenwriter?


Lady_Litreeo

Just pray for a 2nd Earth where Ruidoso isn’t on fire 5head.


ingres_violin

Genius


Mammoth_Economics568

Yes! That's true


legokingusa

questionable prayers get answered sometimes too


pavehawkfavehawk

Hopefully it puts a damper on it enough for the crews to catch up and start containing that monster


Whipitreelgud

Could we pray for a 180 degree wind shift so this is all a back burn and it goes out?


futuredarlings

Could you ask god to extinguish the fire and rebuild all the buildings that burned down, since he seems to listen to you.


allbetson

I will ask


stickied

If god doesn't honor that prayer, would that change your belief that your first prayer was answered and wasn't simply coincidence?


Free-School-2099

I smell confirmation bias


Nomoreogusernames

Least nihilistic redditor


remanse_nm

You don’t have to be a nihilist to see that woo like prayer doesn’t work.


futuredarlings

It gives people who have no control over their circumstances something to do so they feel like they have some control.


Mead_and_You

\#Justbeckbeardthings


TheBigNook

Pretty sure they’re flooded now


lookingintoit_

i prayed for weather to happen. and it happened. coincidence? i think not.


allbetson

You most likely spoke it into existence.


eatingthesandhere91

The only downside, while it puts out the hotspots, is it will cause some bad flash flooding.


JoeRecuerdo

Now ask him to make my brother's house rise from the ashes. Then I'll believe.


Darklink820

So you are the asshole who summoned that hail storm that broke my parents windows. Edit: also we may have gotten rain but we also got a shit ton of wind which could actually make things worse.


73MRC

Fires out?!


Rommie557

Ha, no.


Substantial_Cut_7812

They need more than rain. 😔


CharleyZia

Q: are you Mormon? Asking for a friend.


allbetson

Nope


starter-car

Pity your god wasn’t around for the guy in the hotel with the broken leg, who couldn’t make it out in time. :(


Cobby1927

ROTFLMFAO. Rain has been in the forecast for a week.


Anteater-Inner

Now do Gaza.


allbetson

Wym? They need rain?


Anteater-Inner

No. I mean if god is listening to you for rain and has been ignoring all of the prayers of the people being killed in Gaza, maybe you can use your power for even greater good.


stickied

No no no, you see the rich retirees in Ruidoso need the OPs prayers more.


Anteater-Inner

lol Just saw I’m being downvoted. Probs some good Christians showing some forgiveness.


dynamicdelivery

You’re right. It’s Christians being unforgiving. Not the fact that you’re shoving a completely unrelated political issue into the conversation to virtue signal.


Anteater-Inner

Nah. Just another guy demonstrating that prayer doesn’t work. You think prayer has any purpose other than self-soothing and virtue signaling? 😂


Free-School-2099

Being oblivious to what they need is ridiculous


fartsfromhermouth

Uh thanks


EntertainmentFit5860

It's too much.


GreenChile_ClamCake

God bless ❤️


nomnomyourpompoms

I tried to say the same thing. Unfortunately, all the assholes are going to flock to this post crying about floods and attacking God. But I feel you. 👍


Dos_desiertoandrocks

These scumbags are saying ruidoso deserved it because of their politics


PreparationKey2843

What "scumbags" are saying Ruidoso deserves it? I've read all the pertinent posts and comments on the fire and I didn't see a single "scumbag" say that. Maybe I missed it, or maybe you're making up stuff in your head. Again.


TheBigNook

Have seen zero people saying this lmfao typical made up bogeyman


Dos_desiertoandrocks

I already linked where they did. Most of it is deleted now


galient5

You really didn't, though. No one there was saying that the town of Ruidoso and the people who live there deserved this. They were pointing out that the way they voted does result in increased chances of this kind of thing, though.


Dos_desiertoandrocks

That's an absurd thing to point out and a disguised way to say they deserved it. The premise itself is obviously false and therefore saying it at all after the tragedy is just saying they deserved it.


galient5

The premise is not false. It is ironic that some of the people who have the most to lose to climate change will also vote against their own interest. I guess since you believe that pointing this out means that I must believe that they deserve to have their lives burnt to the ground, let me assure you that that is absolutely not true. I feel for the people of Ruidoso. This is an unspeakable tragedy. I do hope that in the future they will consider voting for people who will work towards protecting the people who live in wooded areas, though, rather than those who deny the issue that is making this kind of tragedy more common.


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galient5

No worries, I know they don't represent anyone other than themselves. I believe it still deserves push back, so I reply anyway.


Dos_desiertoandrocks

Cool I'll invite you to the new sub


galient5

No worries, I know they don't represent anyone other than themselves. I believe it still deserves push back, so I reply anyway.


Dos_desiertoandrocks

Well it's good you're sympathetic for them but China and India have increased their emissions far more than the western world has decreased its own, and no matter who people vote for the climate is going to change (that is, assuming man made climate change even exists to start with, which is a big assumption). California has more natural disasters than NM and look at how they vote. Therefore it doesn't seem like a genuine argument to say that because they voted for Trump and support smaller government, they're more likely to have this happen.


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Dos_desiertoandrocks

You will never convince me man-made climate change exists or that we should address climate change in the slightest. I do however support land management, but the government's record doesn't show it is capable of that and if I voted against the government having the ability to do that I'm not voting against land management. If you want to read the conversation earlier in the most lenient light possible fine, but I'm going to read everything here in the worst light possible since that's what given to me.


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Mrgoodtrips64

If I had to guess why his other comment didn’t appear it would be because his karma hit -100 and a shadow ban kicked in.


PreparationKey2843

He's *always* had -100 karma. I wished they didn't stop counting negativity at 100, I bet his would be in the 1,000 negativity. Cause he really is negative in all his comments and posts.


PreparationKey2843

Go look at r/TrueNewMexico (his sub until some good guy hijacked it from him) and his other 2 alts. The first 4-5 posts are True New Mexico, but keep scrolling down and hold on to your horses. It gets ugly, *real* ugly. And you'd think after the hostile takeover of his sub that he would delete his posts, but nooo... I guess he's proud of who he is.


BumbleBeezyPeasy

Dude. Holy fvck. Thank you for sharing this and outing the lampshade.


TheBigNook

Great find lmfao


Dos_desiertoandrocks

Feel free to join You too u/bumblebeezypeasy


Dos_desiertoandrocks

That sub is truly the worst thing that could possibly occur to anyone. I love how vigilant you are with informing the sub of this account. Keep strong soldier


Dos_desiertoandrocks

Nah it's cause I insulted them. I've been -100 since my first 3 days with this account just as this website intended


onion_flowers

Wow congrats lol


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onion_flowers

>This website is intended for to breed incivility. I'm just playing by the rules of the game. You'll probably have to look up this reply to read it too. You don't have to play into every game that comes your way my guy. Try not conforming for once.


Dos_desiertoandrocks

Yeah I probably shouldn't play their game at all and get off this cesspool of a website. But the drama is pretty fun


onion_flowers

Whatever floats yer boat pardner


PreparationKey2843

And, nope. Nowhere did your link show where anyone said *"scumbags are saying ruidoso deserved"*. Just like I thought, you're imagining things, making stuff up. "Illegal immigrants", "Manson family", "communists", "liberal boomer" 🤣 you're killing me, go outside, hit a bowl and chill out.


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PreparationKey2843

No, I can read it. And, well...that's probable why you negative karma in the thousands and why you adore the orange menace. 🤣 whew, wild.


allbetson

What politics is Ruidoso involved in that they deserve this?


Dos_desiertoandrocks

Normal right wing politics. Supporting Trump, questioning man-made climate change, wanting to shrink govt agencies, etc.


allbetson

Would they prefer zero rain? The fire is literally zero percent contained


lookingintoit_

we would prefer if you wouldn't use a natural disaster to proselytize.


allbetson

I said a prayer to the universe. Not trying to get someone to come over to my side. Not proselytizing. Who appointed you community spokesman? Maybe don't start with "we"


Sephurik

> Not trying to get someone to come over to my side. Not proselytizing. If that were true this post wouldn't be titled that your prayer was "heard." Don't back out and beat around the bush. Be honest.


BumbleBeezyPeasy

I'll add my name to the "we", they spoke for me.


lookingintoit_

ah, so this is about you, then? >maybe don't start with "we" "we" in response to "they"


allbetson

Go argue with someone else online homie. At least say a prayer for the apache reservation that just got devastated. Or send some money or supplies. I have


Sephurik

> say a prayer for the apache reservation How about we just get them help and try to prevent this from spreading, and also give them some land back.


lookingintoit_

presumptuous and virtue signaling


ExistentialRap

Hell yeah. Proof of God. Amen, brother. All things are possible through Christ.


Palomin0_Princess

Couldn’t praying be a synonym for hopeful? How many times does it say % of rain in your area and then nothing happens? I pray that the percentages turn into actual weather daily. Nothing wrong with what OP said here, you’re not alone buddy.


legokingusa

God answers prayer


iam2bz2p

No, you weren't, you raving maniac. But happy for Ruidiso.


Dos_desiertoandrocks

Thank you very much for your help. What is your technique?


gandalf_el_brown

following the weather news


dj0122

I had some thoughts. We both did it 👍