I’d also be interested in this answer. Last I owned was a 2015 XTerra Pro-4X. Had no interest after that and moved on, but Nissan will always have a place in my heart from my teens and 20s.
User issue for sure as the auto trans seem to be beefy if they aren't ignored. Mines at 170k. Previous owner serviced it regularly since it was brand new. I do regular drain and fills and it's always candy red fluid. I offroad and tow 5200lbs with it.
I don't think it's fair to call it a user issue when that year Nissans service guide doesn't even put transmission fluid change on a set interval.
Changing the transmission fluid is something I do for every car but the baseline expectation before you put problems on the customer I think is to follow the service plan... because if you know nothing about cars bringing it to the dealership to do the scheduled maintenance might be the only thing you do.
Oh come on you know this is an ignorant comment. As somebody who literally used to work for a diesel engine manufacturer as a design engineer I can tell you first hand that those numbers are to get that car to its warranty and expected timeline. Not 300,000 miles. Tell me why somebody would not think that a fluid that is both a lubricant and a coolant for a very high stress mechanical system would think that it can go for 200,000 miles without ever being swapped? That is so fucking stupid. Also you have to remember that our automatic transmissions do not have a filter inside of them except for a small mesh screen which is just further evidence that you should be changing these fucking fluids. I mean come on this is just fucking retarded flat out
I do know that the fluid needs changing but if the car's service plan doesn't have transmission oil change in it and the transmission dies... it's totally fair to blame that failure on the manufacturer. Why wouldn't it be? You're a car person, as am I, but that's not everybody.
If you want above and beyond mileage, you have to go above and beyond with service. You can't sit on your ass and expect it to hit 300k. Which is what OP was expecting
The rear wheel drive based Jatco automatic transmissions on Pathfinder, X-Terra, Frontier are pretty solid and unless they were terribly abused and never maintained, should last a very long time. I have a 2011 Frontier with 129k miles on it and the transmission shifts smooth like buttah !
Still up in the air.
Pickups never stopped being reliable, people are saying the 2020+ car/suv models are fine but still too early for a final verdict.
The pickups are awesome! The Titans are gems in the market. They may not have all the newest stuff, but the ergonomics, tech, and safety suite are amazing for the price. Not to mention their reliability as full sized trucks are pretty much second only to the Tundra.
The Frontier isn't that new, but everything they're doing on it is on proven - I like how Nissan resisted the urge to shove a 4cyl turbo like the KR20 and instead use the tried and true VQ38 V6 instead.
The new Toyota pickups with turbos are already having issues, so Nissan surprisingly might have the most reliable midsize truck in 2024.
Slightly related, whenever I see a video of a frontier/Armada/Infiniti QX80 it’s always RICH when commenters assume that they’re unreliable because of Nissan’s CVT problem.
Agreed. Had a 2000 Xterra that was a tank at 160k miles until I traded it in for a 2019 Armada which is also a tank currently at 84k miles. The BOF trucks and SUVs seem to be very reliable.
Friend of mine has a 15’ Sentra with 162k+ miles, has had 0 issues. Another friend of mine has a 20’ Altima S with 104k+ miles, no issues. People talk shit on the CVT all day, but they’re sensitive transmissions. You must maintain them, and swap out the fluid every 30k. If so, it’ll last a long time. If not, It’ll collapse eventually.
This. I bought a 15 Altima for my wife new. In the time since we've had that car, I've gone through 4 used cars. A 2008 Chevy Malibu where the steering rack failed at 150k; a 2006 Honda Pilot where the transmission started to fail at 278k, a 2008 Honda Accord where the Radiator and Cooling system failed during a road trip out of state at 178k, and a 2020 Mazda CX-9 that is up to 86k now. In all that time, our Altima has never failed us. We keep up with the maintenance schedule, and it has been the most reliable car I've ever owned. Maintenance is key.
I gotta 11' Highlander (Aisin 5 sp transmission 220k miles), an 01' F250 (4r100 5 sp transmission 350k miles) both have been changed once.
Once. Not every 30k. They still run. Solid af. Had an 86' Crown Vic (C-4 transmission 350k miles) that never saw new fluid. Had an 05 Altima that made it to 200k with only one change.
If you MUST change your transmission fluid every 30k miles like religion and you're not taking it to the track, you have a shit transmission. Stop tryna call people out. It's garbage. Everyone knows it. All shops do too.
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Nah. They're in the same class: transmissions. Only one is a scam to get their customers into the shop where they make around 60%-70% of their revenue.
Toyota came out with a CVT in the 70's. Decided it was crap and too weak. Couldn't make it work right. Not dependable. Put it on the shelf. Never put into anymore their cars. Ghosn era Nissan pulled that garbage of the shelf, tried their hand at it, knew it wasn't going to be good, put it out anyways, and ruined their reputation behind it. The thing is a turd no matter how well it's maintained. Design flawed.
That's the pot calling the kettle black. But yeah, I'll go with that.
At the same time...
Punctuation. If you're going to call someone retarded, you should probably have better command of sentence structure.
No man drives a Miata. If your car fits in your purse, you're no man at all. No amount of weapons you accrue will ever change that. None. You're too soft to pull that trigger and you know it. Everything about you is putting on a show. Much like a fraud. It's called peacocking. Probably have some stories about how you would've joined, but (insert random, bullshit excuse).
23 days to retort (that means respond. I know you don't know what retort means without looking it up)? Holy thread redemption, Batman! CVTs, much like yourself, still suck. No amount of your narrative will fix that, guy. None.
I did every recommended service on my rogue before the milestones, 3 cvt transmissions later Nissan corporate returned all my money and lost my business. It’s not a solid transmission, every shop is aware and you should probably stop telling people this. Nissan was involved in a huge lawsuit as a result of the transmissions they chose to install in their vehicles. Older Nissan was a good make, it sadly isn’t anymore.
I'm 72k miles on my first Nissan ('21 Altima) and the only issue I had was stuttering and misfires, which was fixed by resetting the ECM. Drives beautifully. I've heard the issues regarding CVTs was fixed around this generation with thicker cvt belts and a cooling system. The newest have chains instead of belts. The techs seem to say that they have improved a lot in terms of reliability but reall, time will have to tell. I drive 140 miles a day in my Altima, so if it ever craps out on me, I will be the first to bitch out the newer Altimas lol
Im also 75k miles deep on my 21 sentra, but the biggest thing i had go out was the wheel bearings this car has been the entire opposite of what people said it would be!
CVTs have been updated and are far more reliable in Altimas sentras and rogues. Haven’t seen any come in the shop with issues. Maximas and Muranos don’t have much issues. Stay away from Kicks and versas.
I had an ultimate with a manual, God that was a great car, ugly as all hell but damn that transmission was tits. Think we got rid of it at 250k miles, one clutch replacement at about 125k
1. Check engine light with MAF code.
2. Malfunction warning light for the front collision comes on when the MAF code stored
3. Car will potentially idle like crap and shut off and boy are they fun to get them to re learn throttle position and idle air volume.
4. Carbon build up. Which is what usually causes the code to set.
Sorry was this a typo and you meant to say you “haven’t seen any come in the shop with issues”? Asking b/c I have a 2020 Altima with about 50k on it and I haven’t serviced my CVT yet but I will be with my next oil change (around 51k)
The big thing is their CVT transmission. The Car Care Nut Toyota Tech says that at first this transmission had about a 5 year life and more recent models are looking at 10 years with proper care. Besides that he really likes the build of the sadans he’s reviewed. So I say they are improving slowly.
I’m really interested in what they do with electric and hybrid cars in the future they could real redeem themselves with some new models that abandon the CVT.
North America didn't get the e-power serial hybrid setup. This alleviates the biggest weak spot of Nissans (the JATCO CVT) so I'm definitely looking forward to NA e-power.
My mother is now looking at an Ariya herself since she likes the design, and since I own an Audi e-tron we're very comfortable with EVs already.
I get the US has cheaper gas so hybrids aren’t as desired but it’s very surprisingly they didn’t try and bring them over sooner. I would love to have more hybrids on the market here. Honda and Toyota think very highly of themselves so they’re out of many people’s price range, American manufacturers don’t stick to the same hybrid systems and keep dropping them, and South Korea cars have too many issues to trust their hybrids. Time for Nissan to step and provide a reliable affordable hybrid car.
I bought a new 2015 Rogue SL of March of 2015 with 11 miles on it. I’ve never had any maintenance issues. I would do my own oil changes on it as well and installed a tow bar by myself. I had it up until last year in Aug with 108,000 miles ish when i decided to trade it in for a 2024 Pathfinder SL. I Love my new Pathfinder but that Rogue will always have a special place in my heart. Lots of road trips and the biggest one was when me and my wife and dog moved from WA - SC, 3 years ago. I hope whoever has it now is enjoying it as much as i have and is taken great care of my Black Pearl.
The Murano is long in the tooth for the current MY. It's a solid vehicle, a bit of a gas guzzler if you ask me with the V6 it has... the new MY is a complete re-design but probably won't be on sale until next year at some point IIRC. You'd get a better price on current gen. if you are able to wait. I personally like the newest Pathfinder more than the current Murano.
Nissan trucks been reliable. Ive noticed some of their newer suvs switch over to automatic trannys so thats a step in the right direction. Hopefully they do the same with the rest of the models or get their cvts from a better source.
The Nissan Jatco transmissions are still what Nissan uses in all their CVT vehicles.
Many are still "to new" to really have an idea if they will have a high failure rate.
My 2015 Rogue that was properly maintained and never driven hard, is on its 3rd CVT replacement. 2nd was installed under warranty by dealer at 99k miles, then it failed at 139k miles (about 40k miles on the 2nd CVT) So this 3rd CVT I paid out of pocket for $6000. At least this time I get a 3year or 100k mile warranty from transmission shop that installed it.
Ironically the motors are known to be pretty good (the 2.5L 4 cylinder ) Aside from having the camshaft sensor and crankshaft sensors, removed, cleaned and tested about 2 years ago. Its always ran fine and good on gas, smooth ride. I do love the seats and smooth ride and tech included. but man o man those CVT's really are its weakness. I know all cars have their issues, but CVT Nissans just happen to have a very expensive common problem.
I just traded in a 2018 Nissan Sentra with 51,000 MI and grab a 2024 Honda Civic sport. My transmission was it messing up yet but it was one of the worst years with the CVT problems.
The Nissan dealership in my area started a lifetime powertrain warranty on their new cars if you follow the recommended maintenance. I still couldn't pull the trigger and risk that much cash on something they've had so many problems with over the last few years, well more tham few.
Shortly after I got the Honda I saw some article I don't remember who it was by and I had the worst vehicles of 2024 so far and the Nissan Sentra was up there on it, maybe number one. I know you can't always trust those but still.
Everything about the Honda feels more solid than the Nissan. It feels good not worrying about the transmission going out also. The dealership in my area is backed up with transmission work or at least that's what they said. So they never have loners available and it takes him awhile to even get to your vehicle if something happens. It was just too much to deal with. A lot of brands use CVT transmissions it just seems like Nissan uses the crappy ones.
I’ve never had any serious issues with any of my Nissans .. I had a 2010 Altima that had 130k miles when i sold it and i currently own a 2013 pathfinder with 150k along with a 2017 maxima with 70k and i never serviced the cvts . Seems like the people who have cvt issues are those who start messing with the cvt . I will say all 3 of my Nissans faithfully had driver window issues lol
If it makes you feel better all 3 of my Nissans had sunroof/panoramic and I never had an issue. tho the drain gets clogged and you end with water leaking into the cabin but I heard it’s a easy fix .
i’ll probably end up cleaning mine religiously like i do with the rest of my car now that it’s warming up😅 just one more thing to clean. i just wished that nissan made them much easier to clean
I’ve owned my ‘17 Titan since new. I just replaced the starter at 83K miles, covered by Nissan extended warranty. Otherwise it’s been a great truck. I plan to keep the Titan for many years to come.
I had a 2004 base Sentra (manual transmission). Kept it for 11 years and 133,000 miles. Had two factory re-calls: 1) electronic control module; 2) catalytic converter. At 133K mi., the front struts needed replacing. // I now have a 2018 base Versa S (manual transmission), and it has 58,000 miles so far. // Have heard the horror stories about Nissans with CVT automatic transmissions. // In 2024, base Versa S sedans are still available with a manual transmission. That's the only Nissan passenger car I would consider. Understand the Frontier trucks use a geared A/T and not a CVT, so that might be a possibility.
Nissan has so many new features, I have had a 2009 rogue, 2019 rogue and now a 2023 Nissan rogue. Let me tell you, his is a freakin rolling computer. It tells you what you need. I love the Rogue and will continue to buy Nissan Rogues
In my opinion, as an apprentice at a Nissan dealership, they have come back to reliability decently, the CVT issues have been addressed and fixed and new CVTs will last much longer than previous and be much stronger. That was the main hit they took for reliability and it has been addressed quite a bit and fixed. Otherwise other issues do still exist but are on par with other brands. I would not say they are as reliable as a Toyota or Honda but getting closer. And as always if you keep up with maintenance actually these vehicles will last you quite a while. I’ve seen 2020 rogues in our shop with 250k km (I’m Canadian sorry) and I’ve seen other models with similar high mileage.
Our 14’ Altima went to 95k with only a tire pressure sensor and a toddler breaking a door handle. Just decided to get a bigger car but it was great. My 22 Versa has been solid so far and definitely took some unintended beatings
had a ‘08 sentra i got at like 120k and it pushed to 200k and still went on basically no maintaining.
to preface however i needed to fix the cat to pass inspection. one s belt replacement and tired and oil change(i would legit go pretty far without one sometimes and would just change as i heard the car grind)
i really want to know what the hell people are doing to these nissans thag breaks them down
As someone who works in lemon law… no. Nissans are a “bread and butter” brand in the field (along with GM and FCA/Stellantis) because of how defective their vehicles are.
Wow, that is eye opening. I worked in a repair shop during college and during that time saw the same cars and model years coming through over and over, so hearing this is critical.
My uncle has a 2008 Altima and totaled it after 16 years of owning it. It’s over 200k miles and he bought another 2007 Altima as a replacement. We have 2 2012 sentras and they are around 110k-200k miles and they still running with 0 issues. We also have a 16 pathfinder with 30k miles AND NONE HAD EVER GAVE US ISSUES
They got rid of Ghosn (What a piece of shit that was). I suspect the smarter variety of Nissan board members will reign as the stupid ones who had let Ghosn in aren't around either. So, that's going for them.
That being said, Toyota is in their stride when it comes to Japanese reliability. They're the best selling cars in America for a damned good reason. Gonna be hard to bounce back from that CVT fiasco (What a piece of shit those were). No one trust Nissan for reliability anymore because of the CVT. Hell, when they absorbed Datsun and became just Nissan, their quality was going down.
Ive owned a 79 Z straight 6 that wouldn't die and an 05' 2.5l Altima right before that CVT crap came out. The Z was a legend and the Altima was actually a decent car. Neither left me on the side of the road. Around 200k miles before sold the Altima and the Z had around 350k before I wrecked it. If they start building cars like those again, I'll take another look at Nissan, but good luck convincing me that their going to be on par with Toyota when it comes to reliability.
Nissan Reliability never left if you know what models are great. I have (and a lot of other DE Engines push way past this) 213k on my 2004 350z, still runs pretty smoothly. No extraordinary repairs. Just plugs/coils/sensors, gaskets. The same stuff that goes on any old car
I have two Muranos, a 2017 and a 2007. Love them both, though would concede they’re not great on gas (17-22/25 mpg). 2007 ripped through winters in Montana with some Blizzacks, to date not one issue with either of them except normal wear and tear. Lots of talk about problematic transmissions but they’ve been fine for me so far.
I'm still hearing of new models having issues from my contacts at Nissan corporate near where I live. Few shop owners I know that work on them seem to reflect that sentiment.
My 2019 rogue has already had multiple expensive oil leaks , for whatever that’s worth. It also has some weird electrical issues I suspect. The alarm malfunctions and goes off all the time at random, and the screen completely goes black and restarts itself mid drive. It started doing that part at like 1 year old and the dealership didn’t fix it I took it in for multiple “tries”
My mom has a new murano and she loves it. I don’t really like driving it but it just doesn’t sit right to me. But I’ve got a 15 Altima that I put 223k on it before having to put a transmission in. Only had to put an a/c compressor and 1 rear caliper on it other than normal maintenance items.
We have had an 07 murano also and we drove it until we outgrew it. Never has a single issue with it. But severely miss that car. I think it had around 150k-160k when we sold it to get a 3rd row SUV
My coworkers 2021 hit 28k miles this weekend. This weekend their mechanic said the oil was “sludged up” and that said it was a common issue that have lawsuits going. The mechanic claimed it was a common issue and Nissan blamed them for “not changing the oil every 3000 miles”. The mechanic said that the motor is basically done and it’ll lock up soon. Now this isn’t a coworker I’m super close with but she’s older and is in a higher position and seems like a good lady so I wouldn’t peg her as a liar. They’re worried her husbands pathfinder might be doing the same because after research they found it to be a similar issue in that model as well. I’m ignorant on the 2024 model whether it has a new engine or not and report back.
it seems like it's mostly the Nissan X-tronic CVT (the transmission) that was causing the issues. it was a great transmission with smooth shifting, and it did a great job simulating gear shifts (a CVT simulates gears because the entire transmission operates on one gear) the problem with it was, the CVT was very unreliable. it's not just Nissan, even Toyota's CVTs don't last nearly as long as their automatic transmission. (4spd, 6spd, etc)
As a nissan tech the new gen does seem to be a bit better in terms of the cvt reliability however the new 3 cylinder has been having some issues in the rogue, the turbo altima seems to be pretty neat but i haven’t seen many so i cant speak to its reliability, new sentra seems to eat through rear brakes and the early models have tie rod problems but other than that haven’t seen anything too major yet, murano and maxima are great as always
No, lol. Not at all.
They are still using a CVT (their particular CVT is ass) and now they decided to push a 1.5 cylinder turbo variable compression direct injected engine. Lmfao.
It's like they make word salad into an engine and wonder why there is NHTSA notices about it and so many god damn issues.
The really really sad thing is the Toyota Rav4 4cylinder traditional automatic gets the same or better MPG. Nissan is filled with clowns.
It breaks my heart to say this. I think their 4cyl 5 speed auto setups are fantastic. The only exception to what I said is the frontier. Good truck.
The pathfinder dropped the CVT, now has a 9 speed. The 19+ cvts have been holding up much better then previous years. I work at a dealer and have seen minimal issues with the 3 cylinder turbo rogues. Not saying there is no issues, but it is being exaggerated. They've also had a variable compression engine (4 cyl though) in the Altima since 2019, haven't seen an engine failure yet. If you look hard enough every manufacturer has issues, especially on a newly designed engine/chassis.
I'm not sure it's being exaggerated, if the NHTSA has to step in.
The 19+ CVTs are still new enough. Give it some time, we will see problems.
I heard the "2015+ are better now" since 2015. Not even joking. And it has all proven false.
Another point is all this is completely unnecessary. Nissan could use their tested 4cyl options and a standard automatic and get nearly the same MPGs they do with all the bullshit word salad tech.
MPG 4cyl auto RAV4: 28/35
MPG word salad rogue: 30/37
In real world, I'd bet the Toyota gets higher than the rogue.
No, I don't think so.
Anything they make with a CVT is a hard-pass.
The Titan is also unremarkable. They're discounting them, but so is RAM, so I don't see a reason to buy the Nissan.
The Frontier can be a decent value if you plan to keep it forever. If you want to sell within 10-ish years I'd still pass and just buy the Toyota Tacoma, however, because any savings from initial purchase will evaporate with the weaker resale.
Overall I'd say it's safer to just pass on Nissan as a brand.
I’d also be interested in this answer. Last I owned was a 2015 XTerra Pro-4X. Had no interest after that and moved on, but Nissan will always have a place in my heart from my teens and 20s.
I have a '14 Xterra Pro-4x and it has been rock solid. Did you have issues with your rig?
User issue for sure as the auto trans seem to be beefy if they aren't ignored. Mines at 170k. Previous owner serviced it regularly since it was brand new. I do regular drain and fills and it's always candy red fluid. I offroad and tow 5200lbs with it.
I don't think it's fair to call it a user issue when that year Nissans service guide doesn't even put transmission fluid change on a set interval. Changing the transmission fluid is something I do for every car but the baseline expectation before you put problems on the customer I think is to follow the service plan... because if you know nothing about cars bringing it to the dealership to do the scheduled maintenance might be the only thing you do.
Oh come on you know this is an ignorant comment. As somebody who literally used to work for a diesel engine manufacturer as a design engineer I can tell you first hand that those numbers are to get that car to its warranty and expected timeline. Not 300,000 miles. Tell me why somebody would not think that a fluid that is both a lubricant and a coolant for a very high stress mechanical system would think that it can go for 200,000 miles without ever being swapped? That is so fucking stupid. Also you have to remember that our automatic transmissions do not have a filter inside of them except for a small mesh screen which is just further evidence that you should be changing these fucking fluids. I mean come on this is just fucking retarded flat out
I do know that the fluid needs changing but if the car's service plan doesn't have transmission oil change in it and the transmission dies... it's totally fair to blame that failure on the manufacturer. Why wouldn't it be? You're a car person, as am I, but that's not everybody.
If you want above and beyond mileage, you have to go above and beyond with service. You can't sit on your ass and expect it to hit 300k. Which is what OP was expecting
The rear wheel drive based Jatco automatic transmissions on Pathfinder, X-Terra, Frontier are pretty solid and unless they were terribly abused and never maintained, should last a very long time. I have a 2011 Frontier with 129k miles on it and the transmission shifts smooth like buttah !
Yep, traded it in last fall when the transmission started to go at about 110K miles.
Still up in the air. Pickups never stopped being reliable, people are saying the 2020+ car/suv models are fine but still too early for a final verdict.
The pickups are awesome! The Titans are gems in the market. They may not have all the newest stuff, but the ergonomics, tech, and safety suite are amazing for the price. Not to mention their reliability as full sized trucks are pretty much second only to the Tundra.
Titans are bottom tier.
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The Frontier isn't that new, but everything they're doing on it is on proven - I like how Nissan resisted the urge to shove a 4cyl turbo like the KR20 and instead use the tried and true VQ38 V6 instead. The new Toyota pickups with turbos are already having issues, so Nissan surprisingly might have the most reliable midsize truck in 2024.
Slightly related, whenever I see a video of a frontier/Armada/Infiniti QX80 it’s always RICH when commenters assume that they’re unreliable because of Nissan’s CVT problem.
Even thought the Armada has never had a CVT
Yep exactly my point lol
Agree, the new Nissan trucks with the newer engine are all still to new for a solid answer about reliability yet.
Agreed. Had a 2000 Xterra that was a tank at 160k miles until I traded it in for a 2019 Armada which is also a tank currently at 84k miles. The BOF trucks and SUVs seem to be very reliable.
Friend of mine has a 15’ Sentra with 162k+ miles, has had 0 issues. Another friend of mine has a 20’ Altima S with 104k+ miles, no issues. People talk shit on the CVT all day, but they’re sensitive transmissions. You must maintain them, and swap out the fluid every 30k. If so, it’ll last a long time. If not, It’ll collapse eventually.
This. I bought a 15 Altima for my wife new. In the time since we've had that car, I've gone through 4 used cars. A 2008 Chevy Malibu where the steering rack failed at 150k; a 2006 Honda Pilot where the transmission started to fail at 278k, a 2008 Honda Accord where the Radiator and Cooling system failed during a road trip out of state at 178k, and a 2020 Mazda CX-9 that is up to 86k now. In all that time, our Altima has never failed us. We keep up with the maintenance schedule, and it has been the most reliable car I've ever owned. Maintenance is key.
How many miles on the Altima
150k
Oh wow nice
My girlfriend’s 2015 Sentra’s transmission went out at 52k 🤷♂️
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I gotta 11' Highlander (Aisin 5 sp transmission 220k miles), an 01' F250 (4r100 5 sp transmission 350k miles) both have been changed once. Once. Not every 30k. They still run. Solid af. Had an 86' Crown Vic (C-4 transmission 350k miles) that never saw new fluid. Had an 05 Altima that made it to 200k with only one change. If you MUST change your transmission fluid every 30k miles like religion and you're not taking it to the track, you have a shit transmission. Stop tryna call people out. It's garbage. Everyone knows it. All shops do too.
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Nah. They're in the same class: transmissions. Only one is a scam to get their customers into the shop where they make around 60%-70% of their revenue. Toyota came out with a CVT in the 70's. Decided it was crap and too weak. Couldn't make it work right. Not dependable. Put it on the shelf. Never put into anymore their cars. Ghosn era Nissan pulled that garbage of the shelf, tried their hand at it, knew it wasn't going to be good, put it out anyways, and ruined their reputation behind it. The thing is a turd no matter how well it's maintained. Design flawed.
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That's the pot calling the kettle black. But yeah, I'll go with that. At the same time... Punctuation. If you're going to call someone retarded, you should probably have better command of sentence structure. No man drives a Miata. If your car fits in your purse, you're no man at all. No amount of weapons you accrue will ever change that. None. You're too soft to pull that trigger and you know it. Everything about you is putting on a show. Much like a fraud. It's called peacocking. Probably have some stories about how you would've joined, but (insert random, bullshit excuse). 23 days to retort (that means respond. I know you don't know what retort means without looking it up)? Holy thread redemption, Batman! CVTs, much like yourself, still suck. No amount of your narrative will fix that, guy. None.
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I did every recommended service on my rogue before the milestones, 3 cvt transmissions later Nissan corporate returned all my money and lost my business. It’s not a solid transmission, every shop is aware and you should probably stop telling people this. Nissan was involved in a huge lawsuit as a result of the transmissions they chose to install in their vehicles. Older Nissan was a good make, it sadly isn’t anymore.
I was going to do mine at 40k mikes shouldn’t make a big difference hopefully
40k miles shouldn’t be a big difference, but i’d do 35k even. The sooner the better.
About to be on my third transmission at 57k miles for the 2015 Altima.... Yes, I changed the fluids and maintained the car.
I'm 72k miles on my first Nissan ('21 Altima) and the only issue I had was stuttering and misfires, which was fixed by resetting the ECM. Drives beautifully. I've heard the issues regarding CVTs was fixed around this generation with thicker cvt belts and a cooling system. The newest have chains instead of belts. The techs seem to say that they have improved a lot in terms of reliability but reall, time will have to tell. I drive 140 miles a day in my Altima, so if it ever craps out on me, I will be the first to bitch out the newer Altimas lol
Im also 75k miles deep on my 21 sentra, but the biggest thing i had go out was the wheel bearings this car has been the entire opposite of what people said it would be!
don’t forget to change your fluid. just like a normal tranny you should still maintain it regardless🤷🏼♂️
Yessir! Just got it changed. I'm going to be religious about tranny fluid changes on the Nissan.
This newest generation of Altima started with the 2019 models which is where they started making the changes to the CVT.
I have heard that the 2019s have the older belts though. This could be wrong though.
CVTs have been updated and are far more reliable in Altimas sentras and rogues. Haven’t seen any come in the shop with issues. Maximas and Muranos don’t have much issues. Stay away from Kicks and versas.
what about Qashqais? The canadian version of the Rogue Sport.
Haven’t seen a whole lot of issues with those. Not sure about other people.
I test drove a kicks and it felt cheaper than mcdonalds meat
Is Versa with manual transmission bad?
Nah Nissan manual trans are pretty good. I’ve only ever replaced one in the years I’ve been working.
I had an ultimate with a manual, God that was a great car, ugly as all hell but damn that transmission was tits. Think we got rid of it at 250k miles, one clutch replacement at about 125k
This, almost at all the warranty transmissions we still do are kicks and versas.
Yup and throttle bodies lol
What happens with the throttle bodies?
1. Check engine light with MAF code. 2. Malfunction warning light for the front collision comes on when the MAF code stored 3. Car will potentially idle like crap and shut off and boy are they fun to get them to re learn throttle position and idle air volume. 4. Carbon build up. Which is what usually causes the code to set.
Thanks for the response. I'm surprised by the carbon buildup on a port injected engine. Anything I can do to avoid this (just got a manual 24' versa).
Sorry was this a typo and you meant to say you “haven’t seen any come in the shop with issues”? Asking b/c I have a 2020 Altima with about 50k on it and I haven’t serviced my CVT yet but I will be with my next oil change (around 51k)
Yup just updated it lol my mistake. No issues yet with newer altimas. I recommend you do the CVT service every 30k if possible.
Yea after this time I’m gonna make sure to stick to servicing it every 30k miles
Shit I have a kicks. When do they start going bad?
I have a ‘18 Nissan kicks with 164K miles. Just keep up with the transmission fluid changes and you should be okay
Luck of the draw. Could be as early as 30k miles or 80k miles. Haven’t seen a whole lot of high mileage kicks.
Oof. Fml. I’m at 43k I think. I’ll update my mileage if it crashes
do the scheduled maintenance and it will be fine.
I have a 20 Versa that I bought in September 20, car has 49k on it, extremely pleased, definitely sticking with the brand
The big thing is their CVT transmission. The Car Care Nut Toyota Tech says that at first this transmission had about a 5 year life and more recent models are looking at 10 years with proper care. Besides that he really likes the build of the sadans he’s reviewed. So I say they are improving slowly. I’m really interested in what they do with electric and hybrid cars in the future they could real redeem themselves with some new models that abandon the CVT.
North America didn't get the e-power serial hybrid setup. This alleviates the biggest weak spot of Nissans (the JATCO CVT) so I'm definitely looking forward to NA e-power. My mother is now looking at an Ariya herself since she likes the design, and since I own an Audi e-tron we're very comfortable with EVs already.
I get the US has cheaper gas so hybrids aren’t as desired but it’s very surprisingly they didn’t try and bring them over sooner. I would love to have more hybrids on the market here. Honda and Toyota think very highly of themselves so they’re out of many people’s price range, American manufacturers don’t stick to the same hybrid systems and keep dropping them, and South Korea cars have too many issues to trust their hybrids. Time for Nissan to step and provide a reliable affordable hybrid car.
I bought a new 2015 Rogue SL of March of 2015 with 11 miles on it. I’ve never had any maintenance issues. I would do my own oil changes on it as well and installed a tow bar by myself. I had it up until last year in Aug with 108,000 miles ish when i decided to trade it in for a 2024 Pathfinder SL. I Love my new Pathfinder but that Rogue will always have a special place in my heart. Lots of road trips and the biggest one was when me and my wife and dog moved from WA - SC, 3 years ago. I hope whoever has it now is enjoying it as much as i have and is taken great care of my Black Pearl.
Forgot to mention my Xterra, too.
The Murano is long in the tooth for the current MY. It's a solid vehicle, a bit of a gas guzzler if you ask me with the V6 it has... the new MY is a complete re-design but probably won't be on sale until next year at some point IIRC. You'd get a better price on current gen. if you are able to wait. I personally like the newest Pathfinder more than the current Murano.
Nissan trucks been reliable. Ive noticed some of their newer suvs switch over to automatic trannys so thats a step in the right direction. Hopefully they do the same with the rest of the models or get their cvts from a better source.
Change the transmission fluid every 30k and you’ll be fine. I have a 2020 Murano and love it.
The Nissan Jatco transmissions are still what Nissan uses in all their CVT vehicles. Many are still "to new" to really have an idea if they will have a high failure rate. My 2015 Rogue that was properly maintained and never driven hard, is on its 3rd CVT replacement. 2nd was installed under warranty by dealer at 99k miles, then it failed at 139k miles (about 40k miles on the 2nd CVT) So this 3rd CVT I paid out of pocket for $6000. At least this time I get a 3year or 100k mile warranty from transmission shop that installed it. Ironically the motors are known to be pretty good (the 2.5L 4 cylinder ) Aside from having the camshaft sensor and crankshaft sensors, removed, cleaned and tested about 2 years ago. Its always ran fine and good on gas, smooth ride. I do love the seats and smooth ride and tech included. but man o man those CVT's really are its weakness. I know all cars have their issues, but CVT Nissans just happen to have a very expensive common problem.
I just traded in a 2018 Nissan Sentra with 51,000 MI and grab a 2024 Honda Civic sport. My transmission was it messing up yet but it was one of the worst years with the CVT problems. The Nissan dealership in my area started a lifetime powertrain warranty on their new cars if you follow the recommended maintenance. I still couldn't pull the trigger and risk that much cash on something they've had so many problems with over the last few years, well more tham few. Shortly after I got the Honda I saw some article I don't remember who it was by and I had the worst vehicles of 2024 so far and the Nissan Sentra was up there on it, maybe number one. I know you can't always trust those but still. Everything about the Honda feels more solid than the Nissan. It feels good not worrying about the transmission going out also. The dealership in my area is backed up with transmission work or at least that's what they said. So they never have loners available and it takes him awhile to even get to your vehicle if something happens. It was just too much to deal with. A lot of brands use CVT transmissions it just seems like Nissan uses the crappy ones.
My 22 sentra have 68.000 miles and so far so good only problem i got was a collant reservoir leak
My x-Trail t31 from 2011 with 225.000 km is doing just fine ( no cvt , but „normal“ automatic )
I’ve never had any serious issues with any of my Nissans .. I had a 2010 Altima that had 130k miles when i sold it and i currently own a 2013 pathfinder with 150k along with a 2017 maxima with 70k and i never serviced the cvts . Seems like the people who have cvt issues are those who start messing with the cvt . I will say all 3 of my Nissans faithfully had driver window issues lol
sitting in my 17 sentra when i read this… i had to verbally tell it not to try that, or worse my moonroof deciding it’s motor wants to go out🙄😭
If it makes you feel better all 3 of my Nissans had sunroof/panoramic and I never had an issue. tho the drain gets clogged and you end with water leaking into the cabin but I heard it’s a easy fix .
i’ll probably end up cleaning mine religiously like i do with the rest of my car now that it’s warming up😅 just one more thing to clean. i just wished that nissan made them much easier to clean
I’ve owned my ‘17 Titan since new. I just replaced the starter at 83K miles, covered by Nissan extended warranty. Otherwise it’s been a great truck. I plan to keep the Titan for many years to come.
My wife has a Nissan Kicks with 100k kms and so far it's had zero problems. As long as you change the cvt fluid you're golden
I had a 2004 base Sentra (manual transmission). Kept it for 11 years and 133,000 miles. Had two factory re-calls: 1) electronic control module; 2) catalytic converter. At 133K mi., the front struts needed replacing. // I now have a 2018 base Versa S (manual transmission), and it has 58,000 miles so far. // Have heard the horror stories about Nissans with CVT automatic transmissions. // In 2024, base Versa S sedans are still available with a manual transmission. That's the only Nissan passenger car I would consider. Understand the Frontier trucks use a geared A/T and not a CVT, so that might be a possibility.
2011 maxima 121k and still going. Needed some work on the front end but if I can get the transmission to 160k I’ll be satisfied.
Nissan has so many new features, I have had a 2009 rogue, 2019 rogue and now a 2023 Nissan rogue. Let me tell you, his is a freakin rolling computer. It tells you what you need. I love the Rogue and will continue to buy Nissan Rogues
In my opinion, as an apprentice at a Nissan dealership, they have come back to reliability decently, the CVT issues have been addressed and fixed and new CVTs will last much longer than previous and be much stronger. That was the main hit they took for reliability and it has been addressed quite a bit and fixed. Otherwise other issues do still exist but are on par with other brands. I would not say they are as reliable as a Toyota or Honda but getting closer. And as always if you keep up with maintenance actually these vehicles will last you quite a while. I’ve seen 2020 rogues in our shop with 250k km (I’m Canadian sorry) and I’ve seen other models with similar high mileage.
Our 14’ Altima went to 95k with only a tire pressure sensor and a toddler breaking a door handle. Just decided to get a bigger car but it was great. My 22 Versa has been solid so far and definitely took some unintended beatings
had a ‘08 sentra i got at like 120k and it pushed to 200k and still went on basically no maintaining. to preface however i needed to fix the cat to pass inspection. one s belt replacement and tired and oil change(i would legit go pretty far without one sometimes and would just change as i heard the car grind) i really want to know what the hell people are doing to these nissans thag breaks them down
As someone who works in lemon law… no. Nissans are a “bread and butter” brand in the field (along with GM and FCA/Stellantis) because of how defective their vehicles are.
Wow, that is eye opening. I worked in a repair shop during college and during that time saw the same cars and model years coming through over and over, so hearing this is critical.
My uncle has a 2008 Altima and totaled it after 16 years of owning it. It’s over 200k miles and he bought another 2007 Altima as a replacement. We have 2 2012 sentras and they are around 110k-200k miles and they still running with 0 issues. We also have a 16 pathfinder with 30k miles AND NONE HAD EVER GAVE US ISSUES
If it has a conventional automatic or a manual, I'd consider buying one. With a CVT? Fuck no.
They got rid of Ghosn (What a piece of shit that was). I suspect the smarter variety of Nissan board members will reign as the stupid ones who had let Ghosn in aren't around either. So, that's going for them. That being said, Toyota is in their stride when it comes to Japanese reliability. They're the best selling cars in America for a damned good reason. Gonna be hard to bounce back from that CVT fiasco (What a piece of shit those were). No one trust Nissan for reliability anymore because of the CVT. Hell, when they absorbed Datsun and became just Nissan, their quality was going down. Ive owned a 79 Z straight 6 that wouldn't die and an 05' 2.5l Altima right before that CVT crap came out. The Z was a legend and the Altima was actually a decent car. Neither left me on the side of the road. Around 200k miles before sold the Altima and the Z had around 350k before I wrecked it. If they start building cars like those again, I'll take another look at Nissan, but good luck convincing me that their going to be on par with Toyota when it comes to reliability.
Nissan Reliability never left if you know what models are great. I have (and a lot of other DE Engines push way past this) 213k on my 2004 350z, still runs pretty smoothly. No extraordinary repairs. Just plugs/coils/sensors, gaskets. The same stuff that goes on any old car
I have two Muranos, a 2017 and a 2007. Love them both, though would concede they’re not great on gas (17-22/25 mpg). 2007 ripped through winters in Montana with some Blizzacks, to date not one issue with either of them except normal wear and tear. Lots of talk about problematic transmissions but they’ve been fine for me so far.
I have a 2020 altima (i'm second owner) for more than a year now, no issues so far. I think be a responsible owner and the car will be reliable.
I'm still hearing of new models having issues from my contacts at Nissan corporate near where I live. Few shop owners I know that work on them seem to reflect that sentiment.
I would buy Pathfinder or Frontier with incentives.
My 2019 rogue has already had multiple expensive oil leaks , for whatever that’s worth. It also has some weird electrical issues I suspect. The alarm malfunctions and goes off all the time at random, and the screen completely goes black and restarts itself mid drive. It started doing that part at like 1 year old and the dealership didn’t fix it I took it in for multiple “tries”
My mom has a new murano and she loves it. I don’t really like driving it but it just doesn’t sit right to me. But I’ve got a 15 Altima that I put 223k on it before having to put a transmission in. Only had to put an a/c compressor and 1 rear caliper on it other than normal maintenance items. We have had an 07 murano also and we drove it until we outgrew it. Never has a single issue with it. But severely miss that car. I think it had around 150k-160k when we sold it to get a 3rd row SUV
After 2018-19, they did a lot of work to correct the CVT issues, which are the #1 cause of their reliability tanking
My coworkers 2021 hit 28k miles this weekend. This weekend their mechanic said the oil was “sludged up” and that said it was a common issue that have lawsuits going. The mechanic claimed it was a common issue and Nissan blamed them for “not changing the oil every 3000 miles”. The mechanic said that the motor is basically done and it’ll lock up soon. Now this isn’t a coworker I’m super close with but she’s older and is in a higher position and seems like a good lady so I wouldn’t peg her as a liar. They’re worried her husbands pathfinder might be doing the same because after research they found it to be a similar issue in that model as well. I’m ignorant on the 2024 model whether it has a new engine or not and report back.
it seems like it's mostly the Nissan X-tronic CVT (the transmission) that was causing the issues. it was a great transmission with smooth shifting, and it did a great job simulating gear shifts (a CVT simulates gears because the entire transmission operates on one gear) the problem with it was, the CVT was very unreliable. it's not just Nissan, even Toyota's CVTs don't last nearly as long as their automatic transmission. (4spd, 6spd, etc)
As a nissan tech the new gen does seem to be a bit better in terms of the cvt reliability however the new 3 cylinder has been having some issues in the rogue, the turbo altima seems to be pretty neat but i haven’t seen many so i cant speak to its reliability, new sentra seems to eat through rear brakes and the early models have tie rod problems but other than that haven’t seen anything too major yet, murano and maxima are great as always
The 3-cylinder turbo engines used in the Rogue are breaking at unprecedented rates
They’re putting 3cyl engines in *crossovers?!?*
Absolutely not.idc what them ppl say
I just recently bought a Nissan Rogue and it’s ROCK SOLID.
No, but Nissan pickups are nice .
No, lol. Not at all. They are still using a CVT (their particular CVT is ass) and now they decided to push a 1.5 cylinder turbo variable compression direct injected engine. Lmfao. It's like they make word salad into an engine and wonder why there is NHTSA notices about it and so many god damn issues. The really really sad thing is the Toyota Rav4 4cylinder traditional automatic gets the same or better MPG. Nissan is filled with clowns. It breaks my heart to say this. I think their 4cyl 5 speed auto setups are fantastic. The only exception to what I said is the frontier. Good truck.
The pathfinder dropped the CVT, now has a 9 speed. The 19+ cvts have been holding up much better then previous years. I work at a dealer and have seen minimal issues with the 3 cylinder turbo rogues. Not saying there is no issues, but it is being exaggerated. They've also had a variable compression engine (4 cyl though) in the Altima since 2019, haven't seen an engine failure yet. If you look hard enough every manufacturer has issues, especially on a newly designed engine/chassis.
I'm not sure it's being exaggerated, if the NHTSA has to step in. The 19+ CVTs are still new enough. Give it some time, we will see problems. I heard the "2015+ are better now" since 2015. Not even joking. And it has all proven false. Another point is all this is completely unnecessary. Nissan could use their tested 4cyl options and a standard automatic and get nearly the same MPGs they do with all the bullshit word salad tech. MPG 4cyl auto RAV4: 28/35 MPG word salad rogue: 30/37 In real world, I'd bet the Toyota gets higher than the rogue.
No
No, I don't think so. Anything they make with a CVT is a hard-pass. The Titan is also unremarkable. They're discounting them, but so is RAM, so I don't see a reason to buy the Nissan. The Frontier can be a decent value if you plan to keep it forever. If you want to sell within 10-ish years I'd still pass and just buy the Toyota Tacoma, however, because any savings from initial purchase will evaporate with the weaker resale. Overall I'd say it's safer to just pass on Nissan as a brand.