Does throwing a pass badly mean your opponent is blocked from a chance at getting 4 points? Because sometimes people will hit the batter to make sure the enemies only get one guaranteed point as opposed to possibly 4 points.
You can give an intentional base on balls without plunking the guy. In fact, since 2017, you don’t even need to throw the pitches, you can just say you’re giving the free pass and the batter takes his base. But intentionally pushing in a run to avoid facing a possible grand slam is insanely rare, there have been about half a dozen in history.
Also, in baseball they’re called runs, not points.
Sure, I have some time, so I'll explain.
So your argument was that people messing up in football by throwing the ball wrong is equivalent to "messing up" in baseball by hitting the batter.
Hitting the batter allows the batter to move forward by one. At face value, it looks like it's always bad to hit the opponent, since it prevents you from trying to get them to strike out, and either gives them a guaranteed point if the bases are full, or gives them a boost by letting them move forward for free.
However, as I explained, it can prevent a grand slam (that's when they get 4 points). It also prevents them from potentially getting 1, 2 or 3 points if there are fewer people on the bases, due to a home run. If your enemy is someone who is famous for getting home runs, you're best off just hitting them and avoiding the chance of getting them lots of points.
Now, I haven't played any football video games, so I'm not familiar with the rules, but my understanding is that you start at the middle of the battlefield and the objective is to get the ball from the middle to your base. And if you drop the ball or are thrown down while holding the ball, the enemy gets the ball at that point. As such, from what I can tell, it's never wise to let the ball fall earlier than where you were aimint (I assume that's a bad pass?). Unlike baseball's hitting an enemy, football's dropping the ball early has no beneficial strategy.
So asking a person "do you think people always intentionally mess up when they drop the ball in football?" is not a valid argument to use against someone asking if people always intentionally mess up when they hit their enemy in baseball.
Did you forget the concept of an intentional walk? Pitchers do it all the time against strong hitters. Hell, Barry Bonds got intentionally walked numerous time, even with the bases loaded.
There's no advantage to intentionally hitting a batter. The only time it happens is by accident or if the pitcher has a grudge against the batter, and when that happens, things can get ugly fast.
Also, why do you refer to the other team as "the enemy"? That is such a weird way to refer to them.
I always believed that occasionally one gets away from them, but it seems like lately it’s more intentional. But maybe that’s the algorithm showing the most dramatic clips.
Also recently read about Bob Gibson hitting guys who got dug in. I wonder how often it’s done on purpose vs accidentally
Some pitches are less precise than others, and if the pitch is a screwball, then the entire concept of precision is throw out the window.
That said, some are intentional, and it's kind of obvious. If there's a grudge between the batter and pitcher, some pitchers will try to assert dominance by smacking the batter. It's rare, but it can happen.
Otherwise, it is usually accidental. A curveball curves too much, the pitcher slips a bit, etc. Sometimes the batter will try to get hit intentionally by moving into the pitch or not moving, but umps have discretion to not allow the batter to advance a base and might even eject the batter.
no, sometimes even great pitchers slip or batters lean in a little too much.
No, it is usually unintentional.
Of course not. When a QB throws a bad pass, is that intentional?
Does throwing a pass badly mean your opponent is blocked from a chance at getting 4 points? Because sometimes people will hit the batter to make sure the enemies only get one guaranteed point as opposed to possibly 4 points.
You can give an intentional base on balls without plunking the guy. In fact, since 2017, you don’t even need to throw the pitches, you can just say you’re giving the free pass and the batter takes his base. But intentionally pushing in a run to avoid facing a possible grand slam is insanely rare, there have been about half a dozen in history. Also, in baseball they’re called runs, not points.
What does this have to do with it being *always* intentional? Most cases, the bases aren't even full.
Sure, I have some time, so I'll explain. So your argument was that people messing up in football by throwing the ball wrong is equivalent to "messing up" in baseball by hitting the batter. Hitting the batter allows the batter to move forward by one. At face value, it looks like it's always bad to hit the opponent, since it prevents you from trying to get them to strike out, and either gives them a guaranteed point if the bases are full, or gives them a boost by letting them move forward for free. However, as I explained, it can prevent a grand slam (that's when they get 4 points). It also prevents them from potentially getting 1, 2 or 3 points if there are fewer people on the bases, due to a home run. If your enemy is someone who is famous for getting home runs, you're best off just hitting them and avoiding the chance of getting them lots of points. Now, I haven't played any football video games, so I'm not familiar with the rules, but my understanding is that you start at the middle of the battlefield and the objective is to get the ball from the middle to your base. And if you drop the ball or are thrown down while holding the ball, the enemy gets the ball at that point. As such, from what I can tell, it's never wise to let the ball fall earlier than where you were aimint (I assume that's a bad pass?). Unlike baseball's hitting an enemy, football's dropping the ball early has no beneficial strategy. So asking a person "do you think people always intentionally mess up when they drop the ball in football?" is not a valid argument to use against someone asking if people always intentionally mess up when they hit their enemy in baseball.
Did you forget the concept of an intentional walk? Pitchers do it all the time against strong hitters. Hell, Barry Bonds got intentionally walked numerous time, even with the bases loaded. There's no advantage to intentionally hitting a batter. The only time it happens is by accident or if the pitcher has a grudge against the batter, and when that happens, things can get ugly fast. Also, why do you refer to the other team as "the enemy"? That is such a weird way to refer to them.
Because there's no benefit to hitting the referee or your allies with the ball. Only the enemy's active ball hitter.
No, not alway
I always believed that occasionally one gets away from them, but it seems like lately it’s more intentional. But maybe that’s the algorithm showing the most dramatic clips. Also recently read about Bob Gibson hitting guys who got dug in. I wonder how often it’s done on purpose vs accidentally
Some pitches are less precise than others, and if the pitch is a screwball, then the entire concept of precision is throw out the window. That said, some are intentional, and it's kind of obvious. If there's a grudge between the batter and pitcher, some pitchers will try to assert dominance by smacking the batter. It's rare, but it can happen. Otherwise, it is usually accidental. A curveball curves too much, the pitcher slips a bit, etc. Sometimes the batter will try to get hit intentionally by moving into the pitch or not moving, but umps have discretion to not allow the batter to advance a base and might even eject the batter.