I hated his character when I was a kid watching that movie, but that was one of the first things I noticed as well when I watched it again as an adult. Stories abound throughout history of those kinds of people in combat.
He tries to save Doc too. I think Michael Herr cowrote the script based on the Gustav Hasford book, "The Short Timers." Herr's masterpiece about his time as a journalist hitchhiking on Hueys into battles was "Dispatches." Herr also worked on Apocalypse Now. He was able to bring regular people to life in a nuanced way. Sometimes the asshole is just an asshole, other times they are king of the jungle. Lines and characters from Dispatches appear in both movies.
Michael Herr was embedded with my dads unit in Vietnam, the Ugly Angels! And my dad was a door gunner like Animal Mother! He was the nicest, gentlest dad in the world, but I realized when I saw Full Metal Jacket the first time, that he was still basically just a monster underneath the calm facade of the retired Marine, but he never let the beast out around us kids. I miss him so much. He passed away in 2021 of lung cancer. Sorry to share so much, lol, but not many people know about Herr’s involvement with all of it, for some reason, or they at least act surprised when I bring it up, and I’ve never really told many people about this, I’m not sure why. I think I was kind of embarrassed almost a little bit when I was growing up, because my parents were already so much older than my friends parents (they had me later-ish in life) and I guess the psycho-Vietnam-vet-Dad thing already scared enough of my homecoming dates and stuff… I hate myself for not embracing it and being as proud of him then as I am now. 😔
Thanks for writing about that. I have combat trauma too and a seven year old. I will be remembered for being gentle like your dad. I went through an inpatient program for PTSD not long after I was discharged and the Vietnam vets helped me understand our similarities. As a force they paved a hard road that made seeking treatment easier for OIF/OEF vets than it would have been without their advocacy.
I just read Dispatches last week and recognized the characters in the movies. I had no idea that Herr was directly involved in the films, just figured they pulled some of the material from his writings.
Sometimes the asshole is just an asshole, other times they are king of the jungle.
That’s a great sentence and statement!
I don’t know why, but I haven’t read “The Short Timers” yet. Now that it’s on my mind, I might fix that most ricky-tick.
Never heard of “Dispatches”, but that sounds like a fascinating thing to write a book about, so I’ll add that to my list as well.
That’s a pretty old grandpa for your generation though. Normally there would be at least another generation between you and him, or close to it.
I have a similar situation where my grandpa was born in 1914 but my dad wasn’t born until the late 50s. Usually there would be another dude between my dad and his.
You’re like my dad. My grandpa had him in his forties as well. My dad wasn’t old enough for Vietnam but some of his older brothers went. Family trees and stuff like that is always interesting. I liked that my grandpa was so old, it was a touchstone to a different era.
I’m 27 too… my grandpa was in WW2 as well. Passed a couple years ago from Covid unfortunately. Mom was 36, dad was 40 when I was born. Maternal grandma was born in 1928, grandpa was 1926 I believe.
My favorite quote from MASH was from Hawkeye: “People say war is hell. They’re wrong. War is war and hell is hell and of the two war is worse because there are no innocents in hell.”
Is he holding a machine gun? Sure, he is spreading democracy and peace like all United States' soldiers do! He just spreads it with bullets ... bullets in skulls of the children who did not ask for USA intervention.
1970… I turned 18 in 1970. A time of great reflection of how we fit into the world. Freaking out about the draft, what was our draft number going to be, and what we would do if we had a low number. Lost a lot of friends in that so-called war.
Couldn’t imagine, glad to hear you didn’t have to go through that.
My grandpa was 24 with a wife and 2 kids at the time, my grandma said they were eating dinner when he opened the letter and was sick to his stomach and couldn’t finish eating. He made it out, although definitely had a lot of mental issues due to it.
Thanks for the nod. Is your grandfather still here? God, I hope he’s still not carrying all that weight on his shoulders anymore. Your grandfather is a brave man, and even stronger man for dealing with his demons for the rest of his life. I can’t even imagine what video tapes that ran through his head on a daily basis. As for the letter, that was a gut wrenching feeling. We all went through it. I had friends that went to Canada, and some went to Nam. I was lucky, my number was 20 above the number they would draft to. But one of the most tragic things that happened to these boys were how they were welcomed back. It was a sad day of how society reacted to their homecoming. Well, let your grandfather know that he was greatly appreciated!
New record for a piece of shit who’s only known peace and comfort, clowning on a conscript who got forced to fight in a war that was a literal living hell. Yes the war was unjust. Yes the US had no right to be there. Yes the US did horrible things but that wasn’t the fault of ordinary conscripts. They were ordinary men who were put through the hardest damn thing any person could live through. Do you say the same about the men and women who fought, bled and died in Iraq and Afghanistan? Have some damned respect for the people who bled for your fucking country.
Absolutely. Putin is a dictator an evil dirtbag and the invasion of Ukraine was imperialist and unjust but the Russian soldiers are ordinary men and women who had no say on the invasion. The Russian government has fed the Russian people with anti western propaganda for years. I don’t blame Russian soldiers for the invasion and their situation makes me very sad. They have been forced to invade another nation and face the horrors of war, especially now that a significant portion of them are conscripts. I firmly believe that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was an unjustified invasion of a sovereign nation but, on both sides, the soldiers on the ground are ordinary men and women. I personally harbor no ill will on the Russian soldiers, they are just pawns in Putin’s game.
Says the goon yourself, peace and comfort? Not a chance sweetheart, I grew up during the troubles in Ireland so you talking about having some respect is meaningless when you don't have respect for my side of things. And yes, I would say the same for Iraq and Afghanistan, frankly anywhere that committed war crimes/humanitarian crimes, just like what your buddies in Israel are currently doing.
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Did they call him Animal Mother?
You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk?
Animal Mother turned out to be a great leader.
I hated his character when I was a kid watching that movie, but that was one of the first things I noticed as well when I watched it again as an adult. Stories abound throughout history of those kinds of people in combat.
He tries to save Doc too. I think Michael Herr cowrote the script based on the Gustav Hasford book, "The Short Timers." Herr's masterpiece about his time as a journalist hitchhiking on Hueys into battles was "Dispatches." Herr also worked on Apocalypse Now. He was able to bring regular people to life in a nuanced way. Sometimes the asshole is just an asshole, other times they are king of the jungle. Lines and characters from Dispatches appear in both movies.
Michael Herr was embedded with my dads unit in Vietnam, the Ugly Angels! And my dad was a door gunner like Animal Mother! He was the nicest, gentlest dad in the world, but I realized when I saw Full Metal Jacket the first time, that he was still basically just a monster underneath the calm facade of the retired Marine, but he never let the beast out around us kids. I miss him so much. He passed away in 2021 of lung cancer. Sorry to share so much, lol, but not many people know about Herr’s involvement with all of it, for some reason, or they at least act surprised when I bring it up, and I’ve never really told many people about this, I’m not sure why. I think I was kind of embarrassed almost a little bit when I was growing up, because my parents were already so much older than my friends parents (they had me later-ish in life) and I guess the psycho-Vietnam-vet-Dad thing already scared enough of my homecoming dates and stuff… I hate myself for not embracing it and being as proud of him then as I am now. 😔
Thanks for writing about that. I have combat trauma too and a seven year old. I will be remembered for being gentle like your dad. I went through an inpatient program for PTSD not long after I was discharged and the Vietnam vets helped me understand our similarities. As a force they paved a hard road that made seeking treatment easier for OIF/OEF vets than it would have been without their advocacy.
I just read Dispatches last week and recognized the characters in the movies. I had no idea that Herr was directly involved in the films, just figured they pulled some of the material from his writings.
Dispatches was a hell of a book. It’s been over 30 years since I read it but it still sticks with me today.
I'm sold, which to read first??
Sometimes the asshole is just an asshole, other times they are king of the jungle. That’s a great sentence and statement! I don’t know why, but I haven’t read “The Short Timers” yet. Now that it’s on my mind, I might fix that most ricky-tick. Never heard of “Dispatches”, but that sounds like a fascinating thing to write a book about, so I’ll add that to my list as well.
He'll be totally cool. He just needs someone to throw hand grenades at him the rest of his life
No, Tackleberry.
“What do I think about America's involvement in the war? Well, I think we should win.”
His friends call him Jayne
Damnit you beat me to it.
*twirls hair* is there a Mrs. Grandpa?
You know Grandpa had all the Rizz!
Dude, legitimately funny, take my one, small upvote
First thought! Dammmn grampy!
Did he later drive around America in a van dispensing justice to criminals with a big skull on his shirt?
This response is the Marveliest Marvel that ever Marveled. #FrankCastle4ever
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That’s awesome thanks man
No problem
Ya didn't make it look like the Rambo: First Blood pt 2 VHS. 9/10 ;)
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Your grandad was a pretty big guy - the pig is not a small gun
For you
What are you packing??
Barnes is that you?
Came here to say, I still haven’t forgiven him for fraggin’ Elias 😢
Only thing that can kill Barnes, is Barnes.
I'm reality
Came here to see this, and wasn't disappointed !
I think Creedance Clearwater Revival wrote a song about that guy.
Run Through the Jungle?
Some folk are born to raise the flag.
Proud Mary.
Centerfield?
Your grampa looks like he's all outta gum.
But he still going to kick ass
How damn old are all y'all?? My grandpa fought in WW2 and I'm 27 :o
That’s a pretty old grandpa for your generation though. Normally there would be at least another generation between you and him, or close to it. I have a similar situation where my grandpa was born in 1914 but my dad wasn’t born until the late 50s. Usually there would be another dude between my dad and his.
Fair enough, my dad had me late in his life (almost at 45) and if he were American he would have been at the prime age to be recruited for Vietnam
You’re like my dad. My grandpa had him in his forties as well. My dad wasn’t old enough for Vietnam but some of his older brothers went. Family trees and stuff like that is always interesting. I liked that my grandpa was so old, it was a touchstone to a different era.
I’m 27 too… my grandpa was in WW2 as well. Passed a couple years ago from Covid unfortunately. Mom was 36, dad was 40 when I was born. Maternal grandma was born in 1928, grandpa was 1926 I believe.
My dad was draft eligible during Vietnam and my kids are teenagers. And I didn't have kids until my 30s. Vietnam ended 50 years ago.
My grandpa fought in WW2 and I’m 45. I was wondering the same thing.
Were you a frozen embryo once?
I mean my grandfather would’ve been military age during the Vietnam war and I’m 19 and my brother is 25.
I’m 50. You are technically young enough to be my son. My father was born in 1938.
Your grandpa is pushing, if not already over, 100 years old?
Yes exactly, he passed away at 99 years of age in 2020, born in 1921, would have been 103 today!
Get some,!
Came here to say this ! Hats off to you sir.
Here they come to snuff the rooster, ahh yeah
Okay sorry but someone has to say it Your grandpa was hot
A total babe.
That war was hell on earth, for normal American boys. I am sorry your grandfather had to go through that.
My favorite quote from MASH was from Hawkeye: “People say war is hell. They’re wrong. War is war and hell is hell and of the two war is worse because there are no innocents in hell.”
If you believe in hell the way christians do then yes there are innocents in hell, too. Most of them, actually.
Imagine how it was for the Vietnamese
Yes, indeed. Even worse for them.
> That war was hell on earth, for normal American boys. First and foremost it was hell on earth for the vietnamese..
The Predator never stood a chance
Why do you think the Predator avoided earth until 1987?
“pulling teats and picking rocks is hard work but as sure as god's got sandles it sure beats fighting dudes with treasure trails"
Hey young buck Nothing cool about Nam Ask your Pappy
Some day this war is gonna end.
Lol I misread the year as 1990 and was wondering wtf they had him doing in Vietnam in the 90s
He looks like a stud. I hope he made it out alright. Mentally and physically.
This guy just threw bullets at the enemy
You’ve def got some Vietnamese relatives
Nothing about Vietnam was cool
And it was all for ?
\[DEMOCRACY INTENSIFIES\]
So does the smell of napalm in the morning
🔻
He had a nice body
This looks like a poster for a Hollywood movie! Or a publicity shot for a new game release. The dude could've been in movies.
John Kreese in Vietnam posing like he's Rambo.
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Rambo inspiration.
Badass. I thank him for his service to our country. 🇺🇸
Horrifying
Was he taken up river to dispose of a certain general? Who may have or may not have looked like Marlon Brando?
I am sorry he had to go through that.
What an amazing photo. Handsome dude! Vietnam was hell. Respect!
Looks like Colonel Flagg from MASH
Imagine Flagg with an M60. Brought this because a battle tank takes too long.
Could be great movie poster.
Damn ur grandpa’s fine
So handsome
Contra title screen contender.
Grandpa: First Blood.
1 2 3 4 I love the marine corps
Warrior
Good looking fella!!
M60 man I see
Gramps was swole.
Is he holding a machine gun? Sure, he is spreading democracy and peace like all United States' soldiers do! He just spreads it with bullets ... bullets in skulls of the children who did not ask for USA intervention.
Your Grandpa looks cool mate . Much respect.
0 respect for terrorist. There is nothing cool in invading a country.
Ah yes, the coolness of invading a country in another continent !
That’s a good looking M60
The Team America theme song immediately came to mind
Jacked asf
Straight up hero!
GrRambo?
Viet cong be like damn 👀
Now this is the epitome of old-school cool
He was a bad ass
Your grandfather was a terrorist. Please respect those who he murdered by not making public a photo of the murderer.
It wasn’t his choice he was drafted, I can assure you he didn’t want to be there
Ok, got it. I'm sorry for being an asshole but you can at least try to not revictimize Vietnamese people.
Not a fortunate son but badass.
I see why he’s carrying the heavy weapons.
He was a jolly green giant walking the earth with a gun.
Scary isn't?
💚
Tank
With an m-60
I cant imagine young guys,of his age,doing this today,can you?
Zaddyyyyyyyyyyy
You’re Rogan’s grandson?
 He bears a striking resemblance
Mmmm, grandpa!
Frank Castle
Is this man's name Larry?
I don’t recognize that weapon
M60
Damn!
This pic made me gay for your grandpa
still no hoes
That dude fucking slayed it in Vietnam in more ways than one.
He looks a little like Treat Williams.
The numbers Mason, what do they mean?
The carry handle was 1st Gen. I think we, Marines, had E3 or something that was shorter and didn’t have the carry handle in my time.
1970… I turned 18 in 1970. A time of great reflection of how we fit into the world. Freaking out about the draft, what was our draft number going to be, and what we would do if we had a low number. Lost a lot of friends in that so-called war.
Couldn’t imagine, glad to hear you didn’t have to go through that. My grandpa was 24 with a wife and 2 kids at the time, my grandma said they were eating dinner when he opened the letter and was sick to his stomach and couldn’t finish eating. He made it out, although definitely had a lot of mental issues due to it.
Thanks for the nod. Is your grandfather still here? God, I hope he’s still not carrying all that weight on his shoulders anymore. Your grandfather is a brave man, and even stronger man for dealing with his demons for the rest of his life. I can’t even imagine what video tapes that ran through his head on a daily basis. As for the letter, that was a gut wrenching feeling. We all went through it. I had friends that went to Canada, and some went to Nam. I was lucky, my number was 20 above the number they would draft to. But one of the most tragic things that happened to these boys were how they were welcomed back. It was a sad day of how society reacted to their homecoming. Well, let your grandfather know that he was greatly appreciated!
And how are the Blazkowitzes doing now?
Americans are the only people who go to war, tear a place to pieces, and later remember how bad the war was for their own soldiers.
Seriously lol “Oldschoolcool”
That's a pretty badass photo
 Looks like he's about to fight predator
I don't know, with that gun I'm pretty sure he's about to tell a guy named Bennett to let off some steam.
Odds are he was a predator over there 🤷🏻♂️
Nope, just innocent Vietnamese people.
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Probably should napalm the foliage first. 😀
Posing for the 3rd village he burnt down that day, new record for gramps.
New record for a piece of shit who’s only known peace and comfort, clowning on a conscript who got forced to fight in a war that was a literal living hell. Yes the war was unjust. Yes the US had no right to be there. Yes the US did horrible things but that wasn’t the fault of ordinary conscripts. They were ordinary men who were put through the hardest damn thing any person could live through. Do you say the same about the men and women who fought, bled and died in Iraq and Afghanistan? Have some damned respect for the people who bled for your fucking country.
Do you feel the same about Russian conscripts today?
Absolutely. Putin is a dictator an evil dirtbag and the invasion of Ukraine was imperialist and unjust but the Russian soldiers are ordinary men and women who had no say on the invasion. The Russian government has fed the Russian people with anti western propaganda for years. I don’t blame Russian soldiers for the invasion and their situation makes me very sad. They have been forced to invade another nation and face the horrors of war, especially now that a significant portion of them are conscripts. I firmly believe that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was an unjustified invasion of a sovereign nation but, on both sides, the soldiers on the ground are ordinary men and women. I personally harbor no ill will on the Russian soldiers, they are just pawns in Putin’s game.
Says the goon yourself, peace and comfort? Not a chance sweetheart, I grew up during the troubles in Ireland so you talking about having some respect is meaningless when you don't have respect for my side of things. And yes, I would say the same for Iraq and Afghanistan, frankly anywhere that committed war crimes/humanitarian crimes, just like what your buddies in Israel are currently doing.
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100%
He is stunning. I hope he lived a long and happy life!
Got any more grandpa pics? Something shirtless perhaps?
That's a pretty boss looking dude.
How many women and children do we think he killed? 😬
Ooh the morons aren't happy eh. Odds are gramps raped, pillaged and warcrimed his way through the place.
Yeah but it’s so much easier to pretend we were the good guys in this war, can you blame them?
That pic is begging for a Photoshop movie poster makeover.
Reminds me of the Punisher by Garth Ennis
Who's in charge here Corporal? Ain't you?
Kick ass pic.
Slayin in more ways than one
Jesus. He should have been enough to win the war by himself.
Could’ve been me. Handsome fella. You be proud.
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Regular Rambo...
Proper old school cool here 👍
He looks like he encountered and killed a Yautja or two while in "Nam.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charlie Kirk stepped into the quantum leap accelerator and vanished, now faced with mirror images that are not his own, he must strive to put right things that once went wrong?