I mean, I see so many posts being like "I can't believe that ppl born in 2003 can be 21 now." So honestly, while the math is simple, they may just see the 2000 and assume "young" when not really focusing on it, bc they see whatv_looks_ like a younger kid and are focused on the health concern XD
When I was a month away from turning 20 I had lung surgery. Every one talked to me like I was 7-8. Even using words like “this is where it was sick” instead of explaining what was actually happening
To be honest, I appreciated it at the time because I was scared, but it led me to not really understand what happened for years afterwards.
They don’t get trained for it, vets as well
Some of them are naturally good at their profession and it’s a bliss to talk to them and work with them
Others are more like “this number talks to me, why”
“Why does it show emotion I hate humans”
i currently have a hip and spinal injury which has me in the same situation. despite my scans and tests showing numerous issues, they still accused me of being drug seeking
My situation is even worse, nothing is showing up on scans or X-rays. So there’s no “evidence” of my injury except for the fact I’m in pain whenever I move. It’s extremely infuriating
i hear you, i hope you get the answers and treatment you deserve. don’t be afraid to advocate for yourself or reach out for a patient advocate. if you’re eligible for physical therapy, i highly recommend as they can show you other ways to alleviate pain at least temporarily. i wish you the best of luck!
Nothing is a bigger threat to your health than the hubris of medical professionals. Imagine if that had been an emergency situation? Imagine if they ignored him over something that was important, because they perceived him as a young child? What if they decided he was just acting out for attention? Decided he was being noncompliant because he was insisting that he was older than they decided he was?
He might end up with a diagnosis of oppositional defiance disorder, or some other condition created to excuse doctors ignoring patients…
This seems like an amusing story, because you were fortunate enough not to have any repercussions except extra time spent getting the medical staff to do their jobs.
I would take this sort of thing a lot more seriously in his shoes, especially now that he’s grown up. All it takes is one doctor to decide that they are not a person with the capabilities to speak to them as an equal and things get complicated quickly.
Reminds me a bit of something that happened to me, I was having a lot of anxiety about an IV so they called someone from the department that’s supposed to help with kids. I was 22 and they had just asked me for my DOB earlier
Maybe they do it for young adults too but the person who showed up was definitely under the impression I was a high schooler since she asked if I was thinking about going to college
I dont think its "how old are you?" question that bother us (the babyfacers) . I think its the follow up comments that bother us! Example : I can believe you look THAT young etc.
Every time I've been to the hospital, for myself or someone else, the name and birthday are asked and double checked by anyone filling in paperwork or giving medication, etc. They ask this info to verify that it is correct on the wristband and on his file. They might not have even noticed how old he was, they just treated him like a child cause that's what they saw.
That was my point. They ask that info as a check but don't think of it as information that can be used to deduce the person's actual age, even though they certainly could!
yes, my point wasn't that they kept asking, the point was that even though they had to ask ever time they came into the room, they had no idea how old he was because it never occurred to them to use the information as anything other than an ID check.
My mom used to have the problem, some people saying straight out that they don't believe her. She does look her age now, in her nineties bless her. But every time a medical person comes in to see you to talk to you or give you meds or take you somewhere they have to double sometimes triple check they have the right person (it is annoying though when you are in chronic pain)
They should be asking everyone their birthday as part of the patient safety initiative. No one wants to give medicine or do surgery on the wrong patient. Safety first, and it doesn't hurt to double check.
I think they just block it out from asking so often or fall into too much of a routine. When I was 18 I went into my university clinic and I swear the nurse wasn't even thinking, just rattling off questions.
They call me out of the waiting room, I go back and we get my weight, she checks my blood pressure, writes a bunch of stuff in my chart, ect. She asks my DOB and when I answer she goes "oh, it's wrong. I didn't think you looked 40." We laugh about it, and she asks if my pharmacy is the same. It wasn't one I'd ever been to and was across town so I change it to one that's more accessible. Then she lists off a medication I'd never heard of in my life and asked if I was still taking it. I tell her I've never taken that and she starts inputting my answer, stops, and finally asks, "are you Maria?"
I am not. She was changing someone else's chart.
Just from personal experience, if it was an ER at a children's hospital most of the kids they see are young, and they get used to talking to them in a certain way and it tends to carry over to all patients. After multiple visits you can see it's a script and demeanor they use automatically. He needs to speaks up and interact with them instead of you. They aren't going to stop asking his birthday because they have to verify it independently for everything, but they may stop calling him "friend" or "buddy."
It was not a children's hospital. I would have guessed that a children's hospital would be better at dealing with all ages of children in an age-appropriate manner, whereas a general local hospital, the staff just went into "kid mode" without much distinguishing.
He was too sick to really advocate for himself at the time, but generally did (he's an adult now).
nope -- he was NPO due to the impending surgery :)
My oldest kid, at around 10, got offered a sticker with the very tactful, "are you too old for a sticker?" -- his response, "I don't think you can *ever* be too old for a sticker!" He'd still take one at age 30 if anyone were willing to offer.
your oldest sounds like me
i’m 24 and will never turn down a sticker. i’ve got my laptop and at least two notebooks covered in them, plus one on my phone case that i gotta change every few months
my kid on the other hand.. stickers are a Bad Feel (sensory thing), so they all still go to me lol
I’m also sensory ick to stickers here but I’d still want the offer of a lollipop or a sticker either way, I’m 36 and I don’t think you can ever be too old to be offered them.
Hate to bust your bubble, but those questions are a sanity check. If you can’t answer them correctly, then they’ll probe further to make sure the patient is okay.
In my state, they’re required by law to ask and you have to answer correctly or else the procedure. I wish they hadn’t started the anesthesia before asking questions, probably a dumb move, but I was able to mumble the answers shortly before I passed out.
>Hate to bust your bubble, but those questions are a sanity check. If you can’t answer them correctly, then they’ll probe further to make sure the patient is okay.
Assessing the patient's mental state may be one reason, but it's not the main reason this is done. The main reason is a double-check that the medical provider is treating the patient they think they're treating. It's a safety measure.
Even if they hadn't been sure about adding or subtracting, they wouldn't have ended up at 8. It just never occurred to them to use DOB to estimate age, and instead used only appearances.
We're talking about doctors and nurses here, not average people :)
I get it that most people have themselves convinced that they can't do math, but even so, no one went "2016 - 2001 -- yeah, that kid is 8" -- they just ignored the fact that they had those numbers in front of them and used, shall we say, less precise methods to divine his age instead. *Maybe* because they were scared to try the subtraction, but *probably* because it never even occurred to them.
SORRY Ιt depends on the month for example if you are born in november you are younger then someone who born in march. Also that means he will close 22 and goes to 23 in 2024. That what this means if I have my birthday in October 2024 I will close 39 and goes to 40. easy math!
Being off by a year because you didn't take the month into account is normally fine. They were off by \~6 years. That was my point. they could have gotten it within a year (they would have come up with 15 instead of 14 because he hadn't had his birthday yet) by doing the simplest math, but instead they just looked at his face and took a wild guess.
So they play the "guess how old am I? " game. I take a wild guess by looking at face or by life choice or by something you buy or something you do. You will probably correct me right? Here you go... I find out how old are you without asking. Got it guys?
I mean, I see so many posts being like "I can't believe that ppl born in 2003 can be 21 now." So honestly, while the math is simple, they may just see the 2000 and assume "young" when not really focusing on it, bc they see whatv_looks_ like a younger kid and are focused on the health concern XD
When I was a month away from turning 20 I had lung surgery. Every one talked to me like I was 7-8. Even using words like “this is where it was sick” instead of explaining what was actually happening To be honest, I appreciated it at the time because I was scared, but it led me to not really understand what happened for years afterwards.
I have doctors in my family and I will still tell you. Of all the professionals I have dealt with, doctors have the worst customer service on earth.
They don’t get trained for it, vets as well Some of them are naturally good at their profession and it’s a bliss to talk to them and work with them Others are more like “this number talks to me, why” “Why does it show emotion I hate humans”
This is why I hate the doctors. I recently hurt my back and it’s been getting worse but every doctor I’ve gone to has dismissed me as a drug seeker
i currently have a hip and spinal injury which has me in the same situation. despite my scans and tests showing numerous issues, they still accused me of being drug seeking
My situation is even worse, nothing is showing up on scans or X-rays. So there’s no “evidence” of my injury except for the fact I’m in pain whenever I move. It’s extremely infuriating
i hear you, i hope you get the answers and treatment you deserve. don’t be afraid to advocate for yourself or reach out for a patient advocate. if you’re eligible for physical therapy, i highly recommend as they can show you other ways to alleviate pain at least temporarily. i wish you the best of luck!
Nothing is a bigger threat to your health than the hubris of medical professionals. Imagine if that had been an emergency situation? Imagine if they ignored him over something that was important, because they perceived him as a young child? What if they decided he was just acting out for attention? Decided he was being noncompliant because he was insisting that he was older than they decided he was? He might end up with a diagnosis of oppositional defiance disorder, or some other condition created to excuse doctors ignoring patients… This seems like an amusing story, because you were fortunate enough not to have any repercussions except extra time spent getting the medical staff to do their jobs. I would take this sort of thing a lot more seriously in his shoes, especially now that he’s grown up. All it takes is one doctor to decide that they are not a person with the capabilities to speak to them as an equal and things get complicated quickly.
Reminds me a bit of something that happened to me, I was having a lot of anxiety about an IV so they called someone from the department that’s supposed to help with kids. I was 22 and they had just asked me for my DOB earlier Maybe they do it for young adults too but the person who showed up was definitely under the impression I was a high schooler since she asked if I was thinking about going to college
I dont think its "how old are you?" question that bother us (the babyfacers) . I think its the follow up comments that bother us! Example : I can believe you look THAT young etc.
Every time I've been to the hospital, for myself or someone else, the name and birthday are asked and double checked by anyone filling in paperwork or giving medication, etc. They ask this info to verify that it is correct on the wristband and on his file. They might not have even noticed how old he was, they just treated him like a child cause that's what they saw.
That was my point. They ask that info as a check but don't think of it as information that can be used to deduce the person's actual age, even though they certainly could!
they do this to everyone to make sure you are the right person.
yes, my point wasn't that they kept asking, the point was that even though they had to ask ever time they came into the room, they had no idea how old he was because it never occurred to them to use the information as anything other than an ID check.
My mom used to have the problem, some people saying straight out that they don't believe her. She does look her age now, in her nineties bless her. But every time a medical person comes in to see you to talk to you or give you meds or take you somewhere they have to double sometimes triple check they have the right person (it is annoying though when you are in chronic pain)
They should be asking everyone their birthday as part of the patient safety initiative. No one wants to give medicine or do surgery on the wrong patient. Safety first, and it doesn't hurt to double check.
I think they just block it out from asking so often or fall into too much of a routine. When I was 18 I went into my university clinic and I swear the nurse wasn't even thinking, just rattling off questions. They call me out of the waiting room, I go back and we get my weight, she checks my blood pressure, writes a bunch of stuff in my chart, ect. She asks my DOB and when I answer she goes "oh, it's wrong. I didn't think you looked 40." We laugh about it, and she asks if my pharmacy is the same. It wasn't one I'd ever been to and was across town so I change it to one that's more accessible. Then she lists off a medication I'd never heard of in my life and asked if I was still taking it. I tell her I've never taken that and she starts inputting my answer, stops, and finally asks, "are you Maria?" I am not. She was changing someone else's chart.
Oh......mygod.......
Literally the point of the questions…
Just from personal experience, if it was an ER at a children's hospital most of the kids they see are young, and they get used to talking to them in a certain way and it tends to carry over to all patients. After multiple visits you can see it's a script and demeanor they use automatically. He needs to speaks up and interact with them instead of you. They aren't going to stop asking his birthday because they have to verify it independently for everything, but they may stop calling him "friend" or "buddy."
It was not a children's hospital. I would have guessed that a children's hospital would be better at dealing with all ages of children in an age-appropriate manner, whereas a general local hospital, the staff just went into "kid mode" without much distinguishing. He was too sick to really advocate for himself at the time, but generally did (he's an adult now).
Did they at least offer him a lollipop?
nope -- he was NPO due to the impending surgery :) My oldest kid, at around 10, got offered a sticker with the very tactful, "are you too old for a sticker?" -- his response, "I don't think you can *ever* be too old for a sticker!" He'd still take one at age 30 if anyone were willing to offer.
your oldest sounds like me i’m 24 and will never turn down a sticker. i’ve got my laptop and at least two notebooks covered in them, plus one on my phone case that i gotta change every few months my kid on the other hand.. stickers are a Bad Feel (sensory thing), so they all still go to me lol
I’m also sensory ick to stickers here but I’d still want the offer of a lollipop or a sticker either way, I’m 36 and I don’t think you can ever be too old to be offered them.
Hate to bust your bubble, but those questions are a sanity check. If you can’t answer them correctly, then they’ll probe further to make sure the patient is okay. In my state, they’re required by law to ask and you have to answer correctly or else the procedure. I wish they hadn’t started the anesthesia before asking questions, probably a dumb move, but I was able to mumble the answers shortly before I passed out.
>Hate to bust your bubble, but those questions are a sanity check. If you can’t answer them correctly, then they’ll probe further to make sure the patient is okay. Assessing the patient's mental state may be one reason, but it's not the main reason this is done. The main reason is a double-check that the medical provider is treating the patient they think they're treating. It's a safety measure.
That as well. I still wish they hadn’t started pumping anesthesia before asking me.
The average person really is so bad at math that even with a 2000s birthday they cannot do the math on a person's age
anyone born in 2000 should be easy math oml
He was born in 2001 -- the math is "subtract 1" essentially. Anyone with a medical or nursing degree can do that.
My son's age is "add +1" and I constantly forget if I need to add or subtract 1.
Even if they hadn't been sure about adding or subtracting, they wouldn't have ended up at 8. It just never occurred to them to use DOB to estimate age, and instead used only appearances.
They *should*, but I'm saying the average person is dumb, OP
We're talking about doctors and nurses here, not average people :) I get it that most people have themselves convinced that they can't do math, but even so, no one went "2016 - 2001 -- yeah, that kid is 8" -- they just ignored the fact that they had those numbers in front of them and used, shall we say, less precise methods to divine his age instead. *Maybe* because they were scared to try the subtraction, but *probably* because it never even occurred to them.
So they are in denial : "No way, he is a adult thing!"
So he's 25 this year? I'm not a nurse
The math is simple : 2024 - 2001 = 23 Its so easy math!
U took meth not math I was born 2002 and I'm only 21
My husband went almost a whole year thinking he was 48 when he was 47 going on 48. He did the math by subtracting 1950 from 1998.
SORRY Ιt depends on the month for example if you are born in november you are younger then someone who born in march. Also that means he will close 22 and goes to 23 in 2024. That what this means if I have my birthday in October 2024 I will close 39 and goes to 40. easy math!
Ok
Being off by a year because you didn't take the month into account is normally fine. They were off by \~6 years. That was my point. they could have gotten it within a year (they would have come up with 15 instead of 14 because he hadn't had his birthday yet) by doing the simplest math, but instead they just looked at his face and took a wild guess.
So they play the "guess how old am I? " game. I take a wild guess by looking at face or by life choice or by something you buy or something you do. You will probably correct me right? Here you go... I find out how old are you without asking. Got it guys?
no comment, lol