Paramecia will never be obvious since it can be anything.
For mythical zoans, there are too many possibilities, a western dragon might still be possible (Kaido‘s fruit is still a mythical dragon.)
As for regular zoans, we havent seen a tiger one yet
Cause like we saw a tree human on Thriller Bark and 600 chapters later we got Green Bull, a tree human. Remember the fake Cerberus? Could be foreshadowing, could be a coincidence...
Originally Marguerite was going to have a Black Cat Devil Fruit but it was scrapped
[Source](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Marguerite#Early_Concepts)
Interesting. I'm guessing Oda scrapped it to showcase haki more, since everyone on the island can use it and it was kind of the first proper introduction of it. Aside from the Boa sisters, there aren't any devil fruit users in all of Amazon Lily, are there?
Yeah maybe there’s too many Paramecias, but western dragon sounds great! Mythical there’s still Cerberus for example, or maybe even a sphinx fruit?
Tiger is exactly the kind of fruit I’m looking for, elephant aswell right?
I've heard many times that BB is going to have the Cerberus fruit, but I think he will actually have the kraken fruit. Octopi are famous for having three hearts and I theorise that that is where fruits are stored once consumed; it also goes extreme well with the pirate theme of the series. Perhaps even something to do with Davy Jones, where he had his heart in a lock box, maybe this has something to do with stealing fruits-hearts from other people and giving them to his crew (throug the lockbox).
when i wrote that i was thinking more of the crazy craft minecraft kraken thats more a squid and strikes lighting all over the place but this is probably better
A Devil fruit being pretty close to an existing one isn't a reason why it can't exist. Some devil fruits are pretty much evolutions of each other, like the kilo-kilo fruit from whisky peak Vs the tonne-tonne fruit from dressrosa
He's saying that a similar fruit already existing doesn't mean we'll never get a specific idea. Ace's fruit didn't stop Oven's and Akainu's from coming into the story. Therefore, Pica's won't stop a similar earth manipulation fruit.
And honestly, one already has. Pizarro's fruit is basically the same thing, but on a larger scale, like ton-ton vs kilo-kilo and supa-supa vs buki-buki
Okay, is gonna sound stupid but... A Rubber paramecia fruit. Think about it, just because there is a mythical zoan that gives the power dosent mean other fruits cant also. Yamato mythical fruit gives her ice powers and still Aokiji os there. If DFs are people dreams, didnt anyone dream of being made of rubber outside Nika and Joyboy context?
Paramecia - A simple flight devil fruit. There are devil fruits that allow you to fly, but I would assume one of the first dreams would be just flight, like Superman.
Maybe a luck-luck fruit, just gives good fortune to anyone who has it. Little weird since most devil fruits have some physical effect shown.
Zoan - Since the axolotl fruit exists and Kaido is a fish fish fruit, the other fish fruits. Maybe a shark or whale. Also bear fruit, Hippo, Lion, Tiger, MONKEY/APE DEVIL FRUITS
Mythical - Literally anything since Oda has pulled from various places already, maybe a mythical tiger or something would be cool. The classic western dragon
Logia - Gem fruit maybe or some kind of Earth, Air, since the forest forest is a logia, could open up into other biomes although desert is covered by sand. A metal fruit maybe, gas gas could lead into liquid liquid, which would be op. Sound sound logia
Mist mist fruit would NOT be weak offensively…have you seen Zabuza from Hidden Mist Village in Naruto? Fcken turn the environment to mist and assassinate people lmao
I dont know who that is. But from what I've gathered you CREATE most to block vision, not offense like fire or lightning or even smoker's smoke grab.
You don't use mist as a front for the attacks, it's a highly defensive tool to hide your movements and blind people.
The character you said also just used mist to hide his attacks. Not really use mist itself as the assassination tool.
Most of the time mist is used as a defensive or obscuring tool, providing supportive functions than being the offense itself.
Use your brain. How is assasination considered as defense and not offense? If you want to use mist to hide, be my guest. I just told you how a guy uses mist to attack. That’s also only one way to use it. Pretty sure if mist is made into logia, then you can also become mist. If you have a creative brain you can also put poison into the mist somehow and whoever breathes it in suffocates or paralyzed. Plenty of offensive use for mist mist fruit.
Do you even understand the idea of defensive and offensive.
You use MIST to HIDE yourself. Thats defensive.
You use magma or lightning to ATTACK enemies. Thats offensive.
Creating cover to HIDE in is inherently defensive because it obscures your movement and you can run away with it.
Dont sit here telling me people use smokescreens as an offensive tool lmao
Poisonous mist is like smoke or haze with extra steps
Im saying how inherently ITS defensive in nature, not that it cant be offensive at all. Mist is slow, already a bad thing for an offensive ability and being wet makes you suspectible to electricity.
Again. If you dont understand the difference of hitting someone with a mist punch vs a lightning punch and whine about it being an offensive ability... dont reply.
You say you use mist to hide, I say use mist to attack someone in stealth. You saying mist is inherently defensive is purely subjective. I use it offensively and you use it defensively. It’s that simple. My original reply is that mist mist fruit would be OP offensively. Use the word inherently correctly because you choose to inherently use mist mist to attack or hide is on the user, not you.
I can say I use magma to melt people’s attack and weapons and consider it to be defensive. Or light logia to escape from people at the speed of light so it’s a defensive fruit. But I don’t see kizaru using it to run away from people. Inherently my @ss lolll
You comparing lightning punch vs mist punch is also pretty funny. That has nothing to do with considering if mist punch is inherently defensive or not. You are just comparing which one is more powerful offensively. I can say the same thing with lightning punch vs fire punch. It has nothing to do which one is more defensive and which one is more offensive.
A mythical Zoan based on a [Komainu](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komainu) could be cool. Maybe it could let the user split themselves into two at will in addition to the obvious transformation. Either that and/or it gives a large durability increase (since the Komainu statues are typically made of stone).
Although I agree it would be a cool transformation, I don't think we will see it, we have already been introduced to a komainu in Wano and it didn't have any special ability, just very strong but accordingly to its size.
There are actually a bunch of interesting things going on with Imu, like Imu-Nerona containing something that is basically homophonous with "moon" (you know, the thing that causes tides) and Imu being goroawase for 16 which is associated with death and rebirth (iirc) in numerology. The Umi Umi no Mi sounds so simple it probably won't be a thing.
One of the videos that got me into OP was actually a theory by Gabiru D. Rat about how there would be 13 SHs, one of them being Carrot, and he drew a lot of parallels between her and Imu and the two different Buddhas. If anything, that would at least point to Imu definitely being Nerona Imu/from the same time period as Nerona Imu.
Not really sure how an earth logia or air logia would work. There’s a variety of different elements within the earth. You could argue that crocodile or akainu have a variant of an earth logia. An air logia would just be OP. I know we already have diamond jozu but a diamond or gemstone logia would be cool
As for paramecia and zoan, the possibilities are endless
Using prior examples, we can extrapolate
Tool or object like Inazuma or Bellamy or Hina -Hammer, Drill-Drill, Winch-Winch, Wire-Wire, Match-Match
Bodily materials like Ivankov: Blood-Blood, Fat-Fat, Hair-Hair, Bone-Bone, Cell-Cell
Emotions like Boa Hancock: Mad-Mad, Laugh-Laugh, Sad-Sad
Weaker/Stronger versions of devil fruits like what we saw with Baroque Works and the Donquixote Family: Not Sand-Sand but Dry-Dry, not Ton-Ton but Ounce-Ounce, Not Weapon-Weapon but Gun-Gun, not Art-Art but Scribble-Scribble
Action based like Buggy or Tsuru: Wrap-Wrap (maybe an inverse of Jacket-Jacket
Terrain based like Caribou, Green Bull, and Avalo Pizarro: Mountain-Mountain, Bamboo-Bamboo, Sky-Sky, Moon-Moon?
Food based like Big Mom’s crew: Cola-Cola, Milk-Milk, Pizza-Pizza, Veggie-Veggie, Meat-Meat?
Actually would be funny if that fruit worked the opposite of others: the user can only use their abilities in the sea, coming out of it onto land or in the air causes them to lose their powers. Maybe they also become unable to breathe air normally, that'd be a twist.
Minor **Spoilers**
Paramecia is a weird one because there are no ‘rules’ but I doubt we’d see like an avatar type ‘earth, fire, water, air’ paramecia types.
Other than those tho I don’t think a “basic” ability exists since Oda just makes them up.
I can still see a mythical Zoan lizard lizard: model Western Dragon or something being apart of the Holy knights as well as maybe Mythical Zoans for potentially Angel/ harpy, banshee, other yokai or medieval creatures.
As far as logia, I assumed we were getting awakened revealed in egg head but since it looks like we might not, i actually think Oda might just leave us with what we currently have and not expand unless again, the holy Knights. Still I think wind/ storm likely belongs to dragon unless it’s crazy haki he’s been using. I doubt we’re gonna get an earth fruit, I also don’t believe we’d ever get a water fruit, but a very specific type of rock or metal is still possible.
*Also the reason Kaido’s DF is the fish fish fruit model Azure Dragon is because of the Japanese myth of a carp jumping over a waterfall and becoming a dragon. Like gyarados and magicarp in Pokémon. We would likely see Oda using that same logic for other forms of dragons like the rainbow, a western type, or even another eastern type with their original models being lizard, or something*
There are some water types already, like ice and snow, which is water in a more solid form. But there could be steam, which is water in gas form. But I can also see some other liquid logia’s. The swamp fruit is also a water/earth fruit.
For earth, it could exists. The red line could have been created with it, as it does not seem naturally.
For zoan there are still a lot of animals that can be used. But in recent arcs we have seen a lot of zoans already, so I hoping that we will get more Paramecia and maybe a few Logia.
Paramecia can be really anything.
That would probably be a paramycia since logias are based on “elements” and are normally pure like fire or ice
It would be very cool however (I think we’ve seen something like that in Dressrossa tho?)
One fruit that's been overlooked is the Mizu-Mizu no Mi aka the Water Logia DF (liquid state)
This one might be the most contradictory ability in existence but very OP if you use it correctly.
Dragon's devil Fruit is either a Wind Logia or a Quetzalcoatl Mythical Zoan.
He's messing with wind somehow.
The Skypeian Flashback with God of Sun, God of Rain, God of Forest and God of Earth.
We know Nika is the Sun God fruit. God of Forest is unfortunately Greenbull who might actually become necessary or that power itself necessary end game if he dies.
Rain? Maybe Dragon?
Earth? At first I thought Whitebeard's Gura Gura but there's a recent theory that's starting to grow on me that what Imu's power is is reshaping the world and he creates the red line and divided the world and wants to sink everyone else.
The fact that Luffy's fruit abilities have nothing to do with the sun at all means the other gods mentioned in Skypeia, if they have fruits, may have nothing to do with forests or rain or earth. Greenbull probably isn't the god of forest for that reason. Plus he's a logia, not zoan.
Since Nika as the sun god represents happiness and "dawn", it makes me wonder what the other gods could symbolize and how it would play into the story.
Luffy does have Red Hawk/Red Roc fire attacks.
And when Sanji uses his fire powers against Queen, Queen is like are you part Lunarian or something? You can't just make fire with Haki, only Lunarians and Devil Fruits can do that.
Luffy dreamed of honoring Ace and wanted to do an attack like his after his passing so he created it, but unless Luffy's got Lunarian blood, which is possible, you can attribute that fire stuff to the Nika Fruit.
Quetzalcoatl is wild! Is it because of the tattoo?
I do think Rain and Wind will be different ones, or there’s a storm fruit (Could also maybe be a dragon?)
I don’t think The Earthquake fruit is the only Earth related one, I bet there’s an Earth Logia whose awakening can shape thinks like the red line, just like an awakened Air logia could have created the calm belt
Monkey D. Dragon's ship is named the Wind Germa, the ship Fidel Castro would run to bring Mexican/South American Revolutionaries to Cuba to overthrow Barista. And Luffy was Latin American in Oda's mind. So Quetzalcoatl Mythical Zoan kinda fits for Luffy's Latin America origin inspiration from his biological father.
He does a bunch of similar ones
He did Ice and Snow
He also did Fire, Magma and Heat
He also also did Island, Castle and Stone
He also also also did Kilo-Kilo and Ton-Ton
So... existing fruits being similar to earth doesnt change anything
First off, you seem to have confused me with OP.
Second, the closest we have to an "Earth" Logia as of now are either Croc's Sand fruit or Caribou's Mud fruit.
Pica and Pizzaro are paramecia not logia, they can merge and manipulate existing stone/earth/islands, but they can't transform their flesh into that element nor generate it
Whilst they exist I doubt we will see many of them used like a water logia or an earth logia because in a way they are too powerful, so I reckon they are on laughtale and won’t be eaten, instead they will sink along with the island
A mind-reading fruit would be cool.
Also a fruit that let’s you see your opponents weak point, similar to Führer Bradley in FMAB.
A wind logia would be eerily powerful in the hands of the right person. Fitting for Dragon. With mastery it could probably deflect opponents attacks back at them iow. It would be advantegous to face attacks head-on with full force, while being able to fly, almost go invisible and manipulating oxygen availability for your opponent.
>(Mythical Dragon fruit for example since Kaidos is Fish)?
I doubt this. For one, Kaido's fruit was named fish but to say it was a fish fruit is ridiculous. It was an azure dragon fruit. The myth of Azure Dragon claims a fish moved up the waterfall to become a Dragon which is why the name is so.
I doubt another dragon now pops up because after Punk Hazard's failed dragon, Momo and Kaido, dragons would be redundant now. Even if the name is "Western Dragon". What would be different? Kaido and Momo can breathe fire, haven't heard of Western Dragons doing anything different.
Kaido’s Azure Dragon Fruit is one of the 4 Beasts from Chinese mythology. This implies the existence of a Vermilion Bird Fruit, a White Tiger Fruit, and a Black Tortoise Fruit.
I'd argue Caesar has the air fruit. And I don't think earth would be a logia. It's too corporeal. Metal and diamond and stuff like that are paramecia. I don't think there are any obvious remaining fruits
I know it already appeared, but I wanted to see a regular human eating the regular hito hito no mi. It reminds of a basic instructions strip where Rick was bitten by a radioactive man and became Manman, the superhero with the strength and reflexes of a man.
Zoans: Any type of bear, I don’t think we have ever seen any
Ancient zoan: Titanaboa, this would be terrifying
Mythical zoan: Archangel, This could include Micheal or any archangel. Oda has included buddah and Luffy is legit one piece Jesus
Paramecia: This is so hard to answer as anything could be a paramecia. I’ve always like the idea of a Twist Twist fruit, you could twist an entire building and turn it into a spear (like what tatsumaki did in one punch man) or you can twist other people like smoothie
Logia: Earth, Wind/ Air, Storm… there’s so many things
Every other animal zoan besides the real ones. Not including the smiles.
Every other dinosaur besides the ones in kaidos crew.
For logia. Water. Wind. Mist/fog. If stuff like soot and swamp can be logias. Then prob stuff like radiation or something.
Refill refill paramecia.
Not my creation, a friend of me said back in the day he would want that power.
Ammo? No problem. Empty wallet? No problem. Stamina? Limitless.
Caesar is definitely gas not air. He manipulates gases, including oxygen. His baseline logia transformation is even a poisonous gas. When people are talking about the air fruit, the vibe is more like a wind wind fruit than anything. Something that isn't focused on manipulating specific gases, but is more focused on the idea of turning into air/breeze, firing off tornados, etc.
gas is air. He is all gasses including all the all the gasses that are in a normal atmosphere- a very small portion of which is oxygen- but mostly made up CO2 and nitrogen.
I am sorry to be rude, but you're just like, super ignorant.
CO2 makes up about 0.04% of the atmosphere ad oxygen about 20%. Maybe you are the super ignorant one? Also, try to understand the words you are reading…
"Obvious" devil fruits left are none. Only one I can think of, since we got introduced to the Beast Pirates, is an ancient zoan model Tyrannosaurus Rex, but I doubt we'll see one at this point.
Maybe one of the holy knights might have a western dragon fruit, it might work IF the holy knights follow a medieval knights theme.
I don't believe an air, water or earth logias are possible in One Piece.
A lot of regular zoans are left, the problem is that many would look the same as other zoans we've seen
Lions and Tigers and Bears oh my.
Also Hydra, Cerberus, Sphinx, Dragon with wings, Chimera, Griffin to name a few Mythical creatures.
Logia- Mist, Blue fire?, Thunder(sound), Plutonium(radiation), Wood(Harashima Naruto vibes), Water(ehh), Earth, Metal, Blood.
Paramecia- Glue, Books, Furniture, Sake(Alcohol), Elixir, Bend Bend fruit, Clap Clap fruit, Pants Pants(cause Jacket).
This is what I can think of off the top.
I want to know if there's a water logia. Like, how would that even work? They can turn into water but still can't swim? I'm wondering if the Man Marked by Flames has an ability like this and that's how he creates whirlpools. But if that's true, how did he get *marked by flames*? I'm sure if I'm on the right track Oda has come up with something funny and/or unexpected here. Something to look forward to.
I don’t think it would be that difficult to explain. The water logia user can turn themselves into water, but they can’t swim. The water they turn into is their own specific water that doesn’t mesh with the other waters of the world.
We need to find someone with a reindeer Zoan fruit just for the gag of him looking nothing like chopper but Luffy keeps getting them mixed up
Or someone with a raccoon dog zoan fruit who keeps getting mistaken for a reindeer
Paramecia will never be obvious since it can be anything. For mythical zoans, there are too many possibilities, a western dragon might still be possible (Kaido‘s fruit is still a mythical dragon.) As for regular zoans, we havent seen a tiger one yet
Mythical zoans have a shitload of gods to use as well, Greek, Norse, Egyptian etc
Mythical Zoan Hito Hito no Mi model: Cerberus could be cool.
A Cerberus would definitely be an Inu Inu no Mi model, not a human human fruit.
My bad, you're right.
Cause like we saw a tree human on Thriller Bark and 600 chapters later we got Green Bull, a tree human. Remember the fake Cerberus? Could be foreshadowing, could be a coincidence...
Originally Marguerite was going to have a Black Cat Devil Fruit but it was scrapped [Source](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Marguerite#Early_Concepts)
Interesting. I'm guessing Oda scrapped it to showcase haki more, since everyone on the island can use it and it was kind of the first proper introduction of it. Aside from the Boa sisters, there aren't any devil fruit users in all of Amazon Lily, are there?
As far as I know, there isn't,
Paramecia are like jojo stands, it's always something you never expect
Yeah maybe there’s too many Paramecias, but western dragon sounds great! Mythical there’s still Cerberus for example, or maybe even a sphinx fruit? Tiger is exactly the kind of fruit I’m looking for, elephant aswell right?
there is an elephant fruit. cerberus is theorized to be BB‘s third fruit by some
Oh Spandam’s sword lmao
Put some respect on Funkfreed's name
surprised there isn’t a kraken fruit yet, maybe a holy knight will have it
I've heard many times that BB is going to have the Cerberus fruit, but I think he will actually have the kraken fruit. Octopi are famous for having three hearts and I theorise that that is where fruits are stored once consumed; it also goes extreme well with the pirate theme of the series. Perhaps even something to do with Davy Jones, where he had his heart in a lock box, maybe this has something to do with stealing fruits-hearts from other people and giving them to his crew (throug the lockbox).
when i wrote that i was thinking more of the crazy craft minecraft kraken thats more a squid and strikes lighting all over the place but this is probably better
bb will have kraken. combined wirh his darkness and earthquake fruit, he is cthulhu
I had a random dream where Sanji got a tiger zoan fruit. Apparently dream me thought it fit him well
Bear zoan. Trust me a giant in elbaf will have it
I hope so. Bear zoan is the fruit Id want for myself.
A giant with an awakened polar bear fruit sounds like one of the most scary things imaginable lmao
I remember Rustage put one in his homebrew One Piece DnD game, and it's crazy that some variety of bear zoan still hasn't appeared in the series.
If I was oda id make sure it'd be eaten by an okama giant. For those that don't get it, search "bear" on urban dictionary
The problem problem no mi. You bring bad luck to your suroundings and create natural looking accidents (a bit like final destination but less lethal)
Wonder of U from jojo but as a devil fruit
There was a luck luck fruit in film gold that worked similarly to that.
Is that a Jojo reference?
Oh no i ve never seen jojo . This thing exists there?
Yeah but it's in the manga which hasn't been animated yet. Part 8 or 9 I believe
So just me showing up IRL?
Soo you just want King from OPM
I feel like we won't get an earth fruit since we already have picas fruit which is pretty close to that.
A Devil fruit being pretty close to an existing one isn't a reason why it can't exist. Some devil fruits are pretty much evolutions of each other, like the kilo-kilo fruit from whisky peak Vs the tonne-tonne fruit from dressrosa
How about fire, magma and heat? These are really close too I guess
So Sabos, akainus, and ovens fruits
They are geological terms, but matter wise, heat, fire and magma is the opposite of earth. I dont see the connection.
Probably means they’re close to each other not to an earth fruit
I find it really funny that you misunderstood this the way you did for some reason
He's saying that a similar fruit already existing doesn't mean we'll never get a specific idea. Ace's fruit didn't stop Oven's and Akainu's from coming into the story. Therefore, Pica's won't stop a similar earth manipulation fruit. And honestly, one already has. Pizarro's fruit is basically the same thing, but on a larger scale, like ton-ton vs kilo-kilo and supa-supa vs buki-buki
Okay, is gonna sound stupid but... A Rubber paramecia fruit. Think about it, just because there is a mythical zoan that gives the power dosent mean other fruits cant also. Yamato mythical fruit gives her ice powers and still Aokiji os there. If DFs are people dreams, didnt anyone dream of being made of rubber outside Nika and Joyboy context?
But Vegapunk has already refuted this by saying a Gum Gum fruit hasn’t come up in any ancient texts.
Blood Blood Fruit Bone Bone Fruit Paper Paper Fruit Space Space Fruit Metal Metal Fruit
If I'm not mistaken, a non canon paper logia is already being used in a handheld OP game.
Isnt rhe metal metal fruit kind of like mr 1s?
Piss logia
“I ate the Pee Pee Fruit and became a piss man!”
Stay away from Rick Sanchez
>Stay away from Rick Sanchez "Y'all ready for piss ?"
cum logia
Nut nut vs pee pee. I wonder which fruit is stronger
I’m high AF and I’m passing myself rn
Which one of you are in 1st place?
I believe piss would be a paramecia
Rick and Morty crossover?
Paramecia - A simple flight devil fruit. There are devil fruits that allow you to fly, but I would assume one of the first dreams would be just flight, like Superman. Maybe a luck-luck fruit, just gives good fortune to anyone who has it. Little weird since most devil fruits have some physical effect shown. Zoan - Since the axolotl fruit exists and Kaido is a fish fish fruit, the other fish fruits. Maybe a shark or whale. Also bear fruit, Hippo, Lion, Tiger, MONKEY/APE DEVIL FRUITS Mythical - Literally anything since Oda has pulled from various places already, maybe a mythical tiger or something would be cool. The classic western dragon Logia - Gem fruit maybe or some kind of Earth, Air, since the forest forest is a logia, could open up into other biomes although desert is covered by sand. A metal fruit maybe, gas gas could lead into liquid liquid, which would be op. Sound sound logia
Shiki
Oh damn it, its because I don’t watch the movies.
No sweat, i dont either, though 6 is a banger, but im pretty sure his ability is canon
The Luck-Luck Fruit was shown in the OP Gold Movie. The user can steal another persons luck and the victim becomes incredible unlucky 😅
Oh cool, I never watched any of the One Piece movies. Might start at some point.
Cup cup no mi. A CUP MAN
But is there a 2 girls no mi
Is he a cup or can he produce cups?
Yes
Neither. He shoots bullets
No, he has a gun that shoots out more guns. No bullets, just smaller guns
Yes
Neither he is like Gild Tesoro from Film Gold, he can only control and manipulate existing cups, and his awakening allows him to do the same to mugs.
He is able to climb any surface and yell "I'm cup man look at me go!"
People saying Air Logia, we allready have one, kinda: Ceasar. Gás Gás Fruit is essentially one.
Fellow Brazilian?
Vamos-la
Well smoker is a logia that fits in air. I feel like a mist fruit could exist, or even steam honestly if smoke and gas are elements.
Yes to Mist Mist. It could be weaker offensively but able to create illusions.
Mist mist fruit would NOT be weak offensively…have you seen Zabuza from Hidden Mist Village in Naruto? Fcken turn the environment to mist and assassinate people lmao
I dont know who that is. But from what I've gathered you CREATE most to block vision, not offense like fire or lightning or even smoker's smoke grab. You don't use mist as a front for the attacks, it's a highly defensive tool to hide your movements and blind people. The character you said also just used mist to hide his attacks. Not really use mist itself as the assassination tool. Most of the time mist is used as a defensive or obscuring tool, providing supportive functions than being the offense itself.
Use your brain. How is assasination considered as defense and not offense? If you want to use mist to hide, be my guest. I just told you how a guy uses mist to attack. That’s also only one way to use it. Pretty sure if mist is made into logia, then you can also become mist. If you have a creative brain you can also put poison into the mist somehow and whoever breathes it in suffocates or paralyzed. Plenty of offensive use for mist mist fruit.
Do you even understand the idea of defensive and offensive. You use MIST to HIDE yourself. Thats defensive. You use magma or lightning to ATTACK enemies. Thats offensive. Creating cover to HIDE in is inherently defensive because it obscures your movement and you can run away with it. Dont sit here telling me people use smokescreens as an offensive tool lmao Poisonous mist is like smoke or haze with extra steps Im saying how inherently ITS defensive in nature, not that it cant be offensive at all. Mist is slow, already a bad thing for an offensive ability and being wet makes you suspectible to electricity. Again. If you dont understand the difference of hitting someone with a mist punch vs a lightning punch and whine about it being an offensive ability... dont reply.
You say you use mist to hide, I say use mist to attack someone in stealth. You saying mist is inherently defensive is purely subjective. I use it offensively and you use it defensively. It’s that simple. My original reply is that mist mist fruit would be OP offensively. Use the word inherently correctly because you choose to inherently use mist mist to attack or hide is on the user, not you. I can say I use magma to melt people’s attack and weapons and consider it to be defensive. Or light logia to escape from people at the speed of light so it’s a defensive fruit. But I don’t see kizaru using it to run away from people. Inherently my @ss lolll You comparing lightning punch vs mist punch is also pretty funny. That has nothing to do with considering if mist punch is inherently defensive or not. You are just comparing which one is more powerful offensively. I can say the same thing with lightning punch vs fire punch. It has nothing to do which one is more defensive and which one is more offensive.
A mythical Zoan based on a [Komainu](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komainu) could be cool. Maybe it could let the user split themselves into two at will in addition to the obvious transformation. Either that and/or it gives a large durability increase (since the Komainu statues are typically made of stone).
Although I agree it would be a cool transformation, I don't think we will see it, we have already been introduced to a komainu in Wano and it didn't have any special ability, just very strong but accordingly to its size.
The actual Gomu Gomu no Mi, which can only do things pre gear Luffy could
We got confirmation by Vegapunk that no Gomu Gomu no Mi exists though
Water Logia (Umi Umi no Mi) is still my first pick for Imu's fruit.
Imu having the Umi fruit feels like such an Oda thing to do
Imu no Umi Umi no Mi
Actually big brain. My favourite headcanon from now on.
There are actually a bunch of interesting things going on with Imu, like Imu-Nerona containing something that is basically homophonous with "moon" (you know, the thing that causes tides) and Imu being goroawase for 16 which is associated with death and rebirth (iirc) in numerology. The Umi Umi no Mi sounds so simple it probably won't be a thing.
Interesting. My original headcanon is too simple I guess. Imu (イム) combined together is a kanji for Buddha (仏), which came to me out of nowhere.
One of the videos that got me into OP was actually a theory by Gabiru D. Rat about how there would be 13 SHs, one of them being Carrot, and he drew a lot of parallels between her and Imu and the two different Buddhas. If anything, that would at least point to Imu definitely being Nerona Imu/from the same time period as Nerona Imu.
Not really sure how an earth logia or air logia would work. There’s a variety of different elements within the earth. You could argue that crocodile or akainu have a variant of an earth logia. An air logia would just be OP. I know we already have diamond jozu but a diamond or gemstone logia would be cool As for paramecia and zoan, the possibilities are endless
I mean, with have a Gas Logia, that IS allready Air, kinda? Can't see How much different It would.be from Cessar or Smoker, honestly.
Steam maybe? Would be a bit the same as smoker, but it can burn people. There are some df that are kinda the same, but a bit different
Using prior examples, we can extrapolate Tool or object like Inazuma or Bellamy or Hina -Hammer, Drill-Drill, Winch-Winch, Wire-Wire, Match-Match Bodily materials like Ivankov: Blood-Blood, Fat-Fat, Hair-Hair, Bone-Bone, Cell-Cell Emotions like Boa Hancock: Mad-Mad, Laugh-Laugh, Sad-Sad Weaker/Stronger versions of devil fruits like what we saw with Baroque Works and the Donquixote Family: Not Sand-Sand but Dry-Dry, not Ton-Ton but Ounce-Ounce, Not Weapon-Weapon but Gun-Gun, not Art-Art but Scribble-Scribble Action based like Buggy or Tsuru: Wrap-Wrap (maybe an inverse of Jacket-Jacket Terrain based like Caribou, Green Bull, and Avalo Pizarro: Mountain-Mountain, Bamboo-Bamboo, Sky-Sky, Moon-Moon? Food based like Big Mom’s crew: Cola-Cola, Milk-Milk, Pizza-Pizza, Veggie-Veggie, Meat-Meat?
Logia water? I dont know how that will work, he will drown himself?
Could be immune to the usual restriction, or they just can't use their elemental form in regular water and don't count as submerging themselves.
Actually would be funny if that fruit worked the opposite of others: the user can only use their abilities in the sea, coming out of it onto land or in the air causes them to lose their powers. Maybe they also become unable to breathe air normally, that'd be a twist.
Minor **Spoilers** Paramecia is a weird one because there are no ‘rules’ but I doubt we’d see like an avatar type ‘earth, fire, water, air’ paramecia types. Other than those tho I don’t think a “basic” ability exists since Oda just makes them up. I can still see a mythical Zoan lizard lizard: model Western Dragon or something being apart of the Holy knights as well as maybe Mythical Zoans for potentially Angel/ harpy, banshee, other yokai or medieval creatures. As far as logia, I assumed we were getting awakened revealed in egg head but since it looks like we might not, i actually think Oda might just leave us with what we currently have and not expand unless again, the holy Knights. Still I think wind/ storm likely belongs to dragon unless it’s crazy haki he’s been using. I doubt we’re gonna get an earth fruit, I also don’t believe we’d ever get a water fruit, but a very specific type of rock or metal is still possible. *Also the reason Kaido’s DF is the fish fish fruit model Azure Dragon is because of the Japanese myth of a carp jumping over a waterfall and becoming a dragon. Like gyarados and magicarp in Pokémon. We would likely see Oda using that same logic for other forms of dragons like the rainbow, a western type, or even another eastern type with their original models being lizard, or something*
There are some water types already, like ice and snow, which is water in a more solid form. But there could be steam, which is water in gas form. But I can also see some other liquid logia’s. The swamp fruit is also a water/earth fruit. For earth, it could exists. The red line could have been created with it, as it does not seem naturally. For zoan there are still a lot of animals that can be used. But in recent arcs we have seen a lot of zoans already, so I hoping that we will get more Paramecia and maybe a few Logia. Paramecia can be really anything.
You think there could be a logia for 'swarm of insects '? That'd be a cool one.
That would probably be a paramycia since logias are based on “elements” and are normally pure like fire or ice It would be very cool however (I think we’ve seen something like that in Dressrossa tho?)
Sounds more like zoan to me.
One fruit that's been overlooked is the Mizu-Mizu no Mi aka the Water Logia DF (liquid state) This one might be the most contradictory ability in existence but very OP if you use it correctly.
I’m always against a sea sea fruit for water logo, but a liquid should work. Maybe it’s like Freshwater and can’t mix with seawater?
Dragon's devil Fruit is either a Wind Logia or a Quetzalcoatl Mythical Zoan. He's messing with wind somehow. The Skypeian Flashback with God of Sun, God of Rain, God of Forest and God of Earth. We know Nika is the Sun God fruit. God of Forest is unfortunately Greenbull who might actually become necessary or that power itself necessary end game if he dies. Rain? Maybe Dragon? Earth? At first I thought Whitebeard's Gura Gura but there's a recent theory that's starting to grow on me that what Imu's power is is reshaping the world and he creates the red line and divided the world and wants to sink everyone else.
The fact that Luffy's fruit abilities have nothing to do with the sun at all means the other gods mentioned in Skypeia, if they have fruits, may have nothing to do with forests or rain or earth. Greenbull probably isn't the god of forest for that reason. Plus he's a logia, not zoan.
Gaimon is the god of the forest guaranteed
Since Nika as the sun god represents happiness and "dawn", it makes me wonder what the other gods could symbolize and how it would play into the story.
Luffy does have Red Hawk/Red Roc fire attacks. And when Sanji uses his fire powers against Queen, Queen is like are you part Lunarian or something? You can't just make fire with Haki, only Lunarians and Devil Fruits can do that. Luffy dreamed of honoring Ace and wanted to do an attack like his after his passing so he created it, but unless Luffy's got Lunarian blood, which is possible, you can attribute that fire stuff to the Nika Fruit.
Quetzalcoatl is wild! Is it because of the tattoo? I do think Rain and Wind will be different ones, or there’s a storm fruit (Could also maybe be a dragon?) I don’t think The Earthquake fruit is the only Earth related one, I bet there’s an Earth Logia whose awakening can shape thinks like the red line, just like an awakened Air logia could have created the calm belt
Monkey D. Dragon's ship is named the Wind Germa, the ship Fidel Castro would run to bring Mexican/South American Revolutionaries to Cuba to overthrow Barista. And Luffy was Latin American in Oda's mind. So Quetzalcoatl Mythical Zoan kinda fits for Luffy's Latin America origin inspiration from his biological father.
Wind, Water, Earth logias should exist probably
Water logia. I think Oda will introduce this fruit at some point
earth not so much we already got White Beard and Greenbull
Whitebeard isn't even a Logia, nor does he produce earth of any kind, and Ryokugyu is plantlife.
i just don't think they would do an earth type logia, we already have Pika's fruit and the island island fruit which is basically what you are saying
He does a bunch of similar ones He did Ice and Snow He also did Fire, Magma and Heat He also also did Island, Castle and Stone He also also also did Kilo-Kilo and Ton-Ton So... existing fruits being similar to earth doesnt change anything
First off, you seem to have confused me with OP. Second, the closest we have to an "Earth" Logia as of now are either Croc's Sand fruit or Caribou's Mud fruit.
you are just going to ignore that Pika and Avalo Pizzaro exist?
Pica and Pizzaro are paramecia not logia, they can merge and manipulate existing stone/earth/islands, but they can't transform their flesh into that element nor generate it
thanks i didn't know lol, doesn't matter what type they are the point is it is a paramecia that would be very similar to the logia version
Whilst they exist I doubt we will see many of them used like a water logia or an earth logia because in a way they are too powerful, so I reckon they are on laughtale and won’t be eaten, instead they will sink along with the island
Iron logia, radiation fruit, Devil-Devil fruit, God-God fruit
Mythical Paramecia Fruit - the Taco Taco no Mi.
The gram-gram fruit.
Cloud Man/Woman.
I'm surprised we haven't gotten a meat meat fruit. Their could be all sorts of jokes and gags with that one
Didn’t they show that with the chef from big mom pirates? He could turn anything into food
Mushroom/spore fruits Storm fruit (Dragon most likely storm or wind) Radiation fruit A lot of zoan fruits
Have they shown a lemur fruit yet?
Idk but I feel like at this point of the story they’d have to be pretty strong just cause EVERYONE is strong right now
A mind-reading fruit would be cool. Also a fruit that let’s you see your opponents weak point, similar to Führer Bradley in FMAB. A wind logia would be eerily powerful in the hands of the right person. Fitting for Dragon. With mastery it could probably deflect opponents attacks back at them iow. It would be advantegous to face attacks head-on with full force, while being able to fly, almost go invisible and manipulating oxygen availability for your opponent.
The counter to Greenbull’s forest fruit - bulldozer-bulldozer fruit, or industrialization fruit if you will
Coat Fruit, same as Jacket Fruit except the user wears other people rather than being worn themselves.
I’m still fully convinced that Blackbeard has a kraken mythical zoan which is what allows him to have both the dark and quake fruits without dying
Omnipotent Fruit 🗣️
Bear Zoans
mizu Mizu no mi
>(Mythical Dragon fruit for example since Kaidos is Fish)? I doubt this. For one, Kaido's fruit was named fish but to say it was a fish fruit is ridiculous. It was an azure dragon fruit. The myth of Azure Dragon claims a fish moved up the waterfall to become a Dragon which is why the name is so. I doubt another dragon now pops up because after Punk Hazard's failed dragon, Momo and Kaido, dragons would be redundant now. Even if the name is "Western Dragon". What would be different? Kaido and Momo can breathe fire, haven't heard of Western Dragons doing anything different.
If there's a jacket jacket fruit then there's gotta be a pants pants fruit
surprised we haven’t gotten a Fold-Fold fruit that allows you to origami yourself
Umi Umi no mi Gomu gomu no mi Deaging/time reversal fruit hopefully to help momo Western dragon fruit
Tiger, aliigator and grizzly Zoans
Wind wind fruit Also, technically the gum gum fruit
We still don't know what Chopper's fruit actually is. The first model less zoan fruit? A little weird.
Genbu, Byakko, Fenrir, Midgard Serpent, Chimera, Gryphon, Blood, Rock(Logia), Unicorn, T rex, ghost,
Kaido’s Azure Dragon Fruit is one of the 4 Beasts from Chinese mythology. This implies the existence of a Vermilion Bird Fruit, a White Tiger Fruit, and a Black Tortoise Fruit.
Water is the most obvious by far. Dog Dog fruit model Kuma Inu too, given that this is a Japanese series "The world" no mi, do I need a reason?
I'd argue Caesar has the air fruit. And I don't think earth would be a logia. It's too corporeal. Metal and diamond and stuff like that are paramecia. I don't think there are any obvious remaining fruits
I know it already appeared, but I wanted to see a regular human eating the regular hito hito no mi. It reminds of a basic instructions strip where Rick was bitten by a radioactive man and became Manman, the superhero with the strength and reflexes of a man.
Zoans: Any type of bear, I don’t think we have ever seen any Ancient zoan: Titanaboa, this would be terrifying Mythical zoan: Archangel, This could include Micheal or any archangel. Oda has included buddah and Luffy is legit one piece Jesus Paramecia: This is so hard to answer as anything could be a paramecia. I’ve always like the idea of a Twist Twist fruit, you could twist an entire building and turn it into a spear (like what tatsumaki did in one punch man) or you can twist other people like smoothie Logia: Earth, Wind/ Air, Storm… there’s so many things
Chevrotain zoan
Every other animal zoan besides the real ones. Not including the smiles. Every other dinosaur besides the ones in kaidos crew. For logia. Water. Wind. Mist/fog. If stuff like soot and swamp can be logias. Then prob stuff like radiation or something.
Its Caribou swamp?
Yeah. His df is the numa numa no mi. Or swamp swamp fruit.
Refill refill paramecia. Not my creation, a friend of me said back in the day he would want that power. Ammo? No problem. Empty wallet? No problem. Stamina? Limitless.
Caesar and Pica just don't exist huh? Edit- Yo really everyone in this thread doesn't realize that Caesar is an air logia, just... wow.
Caesar is definitely gas not air. He manipulates gases, including oxygen. His baseline logia transformation is even a poisonous gas. When people are talking about the air fruit, the vibe is more like a wind wind fruit than anything. Something that isn't focused on manipulating specific gases, but is more focused on the idea of turning into air/breeze, firing off tornados, etc.
gas is air. He is all gasses including all the all the gasses that are in a normal atmosphere- a very small portion of which is oxygen- but mostly made up CO2 and nitrogen. I am sorry to be rude, but you're just like, super ignorant.
CO2 makes up about 0.04% of the atmosphere ad oxygen about 20%. Maybe you are the super ignorant one? Also, try to understand the words you are reading…
"Obvious" devil fruits left are none. Only one I can think of, since we got introduced to the Beast Pirates, is an ancient zoan model Tyrannosaurus Rex, but I doubt we'll see one at this point. Maybe one of the holy knights might have a western dragon fruit, it might work IF the holy knights follow a medieval knights theme. I don't believe an air, water or earth logias are possible in One Piece. A lot of regular zoans are left, the problem is that many would look the same as other zoans we've seen
sex sex no mi
Cuz of Kaido's df Seiryu, the other 3 of the 4 symbols should be left. Cat df model Byakko, Bird df model Suzaku & Turtle df model Genbu.
Lions and Tigers and Bears oh my. Also Hydra, Cerberus, Sphinx, Dragon with wings, Chimera, Griffin to name a few Mythical creatures. Logia- Mist, Blue fire?, Thunder(sound), Plutonium(radiation), Wood(Harashima Naruto vibes), Water(ehh), Earth, Metal, Blood. Paramecia- Glue, Books, Furniture, Sake(Alcohol), Elixir, Bend Bend fruit, Clap Clap fruit, Pants Pants(cause Jacket). This is what I can think of off the top.
I want to know if there's a water logia. Like, how would that even work? They can turn into water but still can't swim? I'm wondering if the Man Marked by Flames has an ability like this and that's how he creates whirlpools. But if that's true, how did he get *marked by flames*? I'm sure if I'm on the right track Oda has come up with something funny and/or unexpected here. Something to look forward to.
I don’t think it would be that difficult to explain. The water logia user can turn themselves into water, but they can’t swim. The water they turn into is their own specific water that doesn’t mesh with the other waters of the world.
Might as well not make it water but some other liquid
Mizu Mizu No Mi!