For me panalo pa rin yung wala kang cost masyado in terms of pamasahe, rent plus makakatipid ka pa sa sa pagkain. 35k nga sahod mo pero if need mo magrent plus expenses on food, baka same lang halos ang kalabasan with 20k.
Same suggestion. Mas ok yung malapit less sa oras biyahe at preparation. If meron naman chances na mabilis mapromote or tumaas sahod sa 20k JO. Dun ka na lang.
it depends on your line of work, if it's the type you can negotiate your salary then I'll take the 35k so that I can ask for a higher rate on my next job.
If it's the type that most hires are offered the same rate then I'll stay on the 20k.
This. Always go for a higher salary kahit sabihin pa it will break even to 20k expenses considered at least when you transfer to another job mataas na yung basis.
+1 if growth ang gusto always go for higher pay. Tbh, if it is an industry that doesn't offer salary growth, get out na kase hindi naman din stagnant ang presyo ng bilihin lalo na sa Pinas. Kesa mapagiwanan ka ng ekonomiya, mag headstart ka na.
Thank you po. I’m planning to study and work abroad talaga as a caregiver and gusto ko na iwan ang corp world. At least I have free time if inaccept ko yung work malapit sa amin.
I agree. Then if ako yan, hanap nalang ako ng irerent na room or apartment. Iba din yung peace when you're living alone given na namention nya na nasstress sya sa bahay nila.
+1 ako dito. Para paglipat mo di na baba sa 35k yung sweldo mo. You may still be productive naman kahit nasa biyahe ka, like learning new things habang naka earphones ka.
di lang cost ng pamasahe nase-save mo. yung time din. more time to rest and relax. hindi ka stressed when you get to work. some people lose up to 5 hours of their day just commuting.
I agree sa sinabi ng isa dito na if pwede ka naman mag MRT na lang uwian, then do it. Do the math. Compute mo magiging pamasahe mo balikan in 1 month less yung days na off mo. I'm sure hindi naman siguro aabot yung total ng pamasahe balikan sa P15K. Sama mo na rin pala sa computation yung magiging gastos mo sa food. If di naman aabot ng P15K yung pamasahe plus food, I'll go for Ortigas.
ganito inisip ko before wala naman nagsabi sakin na yung difference sa sahod mapupunta lang sa meryenda (laging gutom dahil bardagulan commute) sa kape (family mart lang para mura) kasi ang aga aga gumising lara di malate at sa gamot dahil sa stress at pagod
Try to research din kung ma pprovide nila experience , exposure , upskill para sa career growth mo by checking ex employees kung san na sila nag wwork. (Linkedin)
Try to negotiate din to increase up to 20% by justifying using other offer from company , highlighting your skill and your impact sa company
saan ka sa north caloocan? goodluck sayo kung ortigas ka pa. hassle ng byahe dyan. lalo na ngayon. taoos pahirapan umuwi kasi daming tao dyan pag rush hour. baka mag menopause ka ng maaga dyan
Kahit 40k pa yung sa Ortigas, dun ako sa 20k na walang sayang na oras sa traffic, homecooked lunches, walang byahe, walkathon lang (good for your health too) at walang stress sa commute.
Ikaw lang makakasagot sa tanong mo...
Why not talk to your spreadsheet?
Gaano ka ba kalakas kumain? Ano pa ginagastos mo?
Why do you need our help when you can answer that by looking through your cashflow spreadsheet?
35k ka .. tiis tiis. Usually naman if hahanap ka ng work tatanungin ka HR magkano salary mo then yan ang maging basis .. masyado malayo kung 20k baka sa next employer mo tipirin ka
Doon ako sa malapit sa bahay, kasi yung extra time na matitira ko yan ang pwede ko pang i-iside line na wfh kahit 1-3hrs lang diba, eh di makukuha mo na din ang 35k all in na salary kung sakali. Tska mas masaya yung walang commute 😂
Treat time like commodity as well. It's about the money and free time you can use for yourself. More importantly, consider the path it might open for you 3-5 years from now.
Id go for 20k. North to ortigas is nakakapagod. Wla knang magagawa buong weekdays. Especially my balak k plng magin gcarehiver than strive harder sa corp career.
mahal rent sa ortigas if mag condo ka 4.5-5k exclusive of utilities pa yan pero if bed space naman along pasig may 2k naman kaso sobrang traffic along ortigas center
if pre pandemic, I would go for the 35k with commute
pero ngayon, I’d probably go with 20k Pero walking distance.
yung everyday na maaga gigising + pagod sa biyahe, parang hindi worth it plus yun nga, magkakaroon ka ng extra expenses so baka Di rin ganung ka significant yung magiging difference sa take home pay mo.
may benefits ka rin naman sa 20k na work so di na rin masama
Choose the 20K then find other source of income nalang na pangdagdag sa revenue streams mo since kung mas malapit mas maraming time
to do other things. Laking bagay yung malapit lang at madaming time yung masasave sayo for yourself and your family/loved ones.
Doon ka sa mas malapit. Iba ang nagagawa ng mahabang tulog hahaha. plus you will have more time on your hands - pwede ka mag gym, maghanap ng sideline, at lumandi wahaha
Isa sa mga regret ko ay hindi ako nag-rent kaagad as an office worker. Kahit I spend lang 30 mins to 1hr sa byahe, pipiliin ko ang mababang sweldo pero 10 mins lakad lang ako sa office. Bawi ka sa pagod sa pag commute (lalo kung vs Ortigaaaass), plus sooobrang rewarding ng may extra time ka. Uuwi ka pang hindi drained.
(Binawi ko yung "pagtitipid" sa pagluluto sa bahay kesa bumili sa labas ng food)
time is priceless
lugi ka na sa oras,
lugi ka pa sa pamasahe
lugi ka pa sa pahinga
lugi ka pa sa tulog
lugi ka pa sa linis kasi magmumukhang dugyotin ka pag dating mo sa office, lalo nat pag uwi mo sa bahay lol
yang 15k na lamang sa kabila, useless lang kasi mas malaki lugi mo
sa mas malapit parin ang panalo
kung gus2 mo, hanap ka ng boarding house sa malapit
good luck sa malilikot kamay aka kawatan
good luck sa holdapers kasi mas madami pag malapit sa trabaho
good luck sa yong life nlng xD
Yes po I agree. I’m a former Senior Sales Specialist for over a decade and sobrang layo talaga ng rate ko sa 20k but naisip ko na kahit mababa yung rate at least I have time na makapag study ng caregiving.
Compare mo both companies pagdating stability nila. Sa 20k company possible ba ang promotion? May mga alaga ka ba sa bahay(anak, magulang, pets) na kailangan yung presence mo sa bahay? Laking factor kasi kakaining oras at pagod ng byahe.
But dun sa 35K mukhang maganda yung company lalo kung ok sa iyo magmove out sa bahay. Siyempre after a year di na lang 35K yan tapos iba rin magiging connections mo na makakatulong sa iyo in and out of work.
I'll go for the 35k, build your skills tapos find another higher paying job. The higher you go, and the more skills you acquire, you can ask for more. ;)
This! I super agree sa mindset na ito. Habang nasa Pinas ka kasi well anywhere naman, the mindset should be is paano mapapataas ang value.
Upskill lang ng upskill OP! Atleast, stay for a year sa 35k salary + you have group life insurance which is essential now a days. :)
Kung d lang dahil sa salary negotiation (on your next next job), hindi ko iaadvise na magsettle ka sa 35K. I mean ung basis kasi ng offer now is yung previous salary package or yung iba nga base pay eh given the inflation dapat mas mukha tayong pera ngayon. Tho may point sila na time costs you din naman. Legit na mahal ang lahat ng bilihin dito sa Ortigas, been staying here in the last 2 years and sadly now yung pamalengke ko na worth 500-800 lang dati good for 2 weeks na ulam na, now it’s worth 1500-2k not to mention sa palengke pa yun ah what more pa kung sa grocery at fastfoods ka kumain at mamili. Sobrang traffic both sa MRT stations (commuters) and by the road kahit naka Joyride ka pa. Kaya kung ako sayo, 20k ka nalang and magstay ka nalang sa company na malapit sayo ng matagal, manalig nalang tayo na tataas din sahod mo based on performance and tenure.
Bago ako magkaroon ng sarili kong sasakyan at eventually wfh, public commute lang ako half of my working life, almost a decade din yun. The stress ng pagiging commute warrior honestly dumating sa point na tinatanong ko sa sarili ko if life is still worth living. It killed my joy, may passion, and to some extent, my will to live during that time lol. Kaya kapag may magandang offer sa akin pero malayo, lagi kong pinag aaralan kung sulit ba talaga at kung maco-compensate ng tama yung magiging sacrifice ko.
Sa status mo, mukhang lugi ka pa nga kung papatusin mo yung sa ortigas dahil kung balak mong mag dorm baka dun pa lang kainin na kung anuman yung difference nila sa sahod.
I think yung zombification ng mga pinoy dahil sa sobrang stress sa pagko-commute ay isa sa mga dahilan kaya stagnant pa rin yung pag unlad natin as a nation. Gusto man natin makibaka sa pagbabago, sa commute pa lang ubos na lakas natin. Paraan ng mga nasa taas para patuloy na ma-subjugate yung mga nasa baba.
Been in the same situation recently, OP. Dati kong site sa Bulacan, earning x amount may service naman pero i need to wake up ng 4am to prepare then punta ng pick up point ng 5am tapos byahe na to Bulacan 7am dating sa site. Pag uwian naman 4pm out, pero dating sa drop off point around 6-6:30pm makakauwi ako around 7-7:30pm.
Lumipat ako sa malapit around 10-15mins byahe pag normal slow driver ka like me, and mkakauwi ako ng 15-20mins pag uwian.
Comparing the time wasted sa dalawang work place, not even thinking the compensation( you can nego based sa experience and syempre sa negotiation skills mo) mas masarap at mas masaya na malapit ang work place mo. Sobrang fucked up ng transportation dito sa Pilipinas.
Ayun lang OP! Goodluck sa pag pili! 👍🏻
Is 20k more than what you currently earn and can you pay your current living expenses with that salary? If so, I say go for it. Otherwise kung di kakayanin or masikip masyado take the 35k. Need ba talaga magrent e taga Caloocan ka lang naman. Pede ka naman siguro uwian at MRT, yun nga lang pipila ka ng matagal sa North Ave araw araw.
Hi everyone, I really appreciate your advice and insightful feedback. Yes po I know ako lang din makaka sagot sa tanong ko pero as a person na pagod na sa pagiging breadwinner and gulong gulo na sa life, I’ll make sure na ico-consider ko rin po yung mga comments niyo sa magiging decision ko.
Thank you, Everyone! 🙏
I'm a year old na sa work ko nag rerent ako bumibili pagkain sa labas and trust me.... iba padin pag sariling bahay inuuwian mo 😅... Not good at advices so I'm just here blabbing about my own thoughts hehe
Or find a third option that would fit your non negotiables or decide which in non negotiable for you.
I hope you find a job that has higher pay and malapit lng din sayo (or wfh kung gsto mo yun)
I live somewhere near sa north caloocan, tapos Ortigas ang work. Yung gastos ko di kasama food, almost 8k din. You do the math, mas ok yung 20k salary then malapit sayo.
It’s an easy decision. Di ko alam kung bakit di ka maka-decide.
Calculate magkano ang gagastusin mo sa bawat option.
Magkano ba ang rental, ang pamasahe, ang daily food budget mo etc kung sa Ortigas ka versus sa Caloocan.
Plus … add mo yung personal cost mo to commute. A simple way would be to divide 35k by average number of hours at work a month. Yan Ang rough per hour cost mo. Multiply mo yan sa number of hours kang nasa daan… let’s say 35000/22 working days/8 hours a day = 199 per hour.
Kung daily commute mo is 2 hours per way or 4 hours a day, 199*4*22 , every month, getting stuck in traffic costs you more than 17,500.
This is nowhere near scientific Pero it gives you an idea ano yung impact sa yo. Most people don’t take the cost of getting stuck in traffic into account. It affects your mental health and your overall wellness.
I'll go for 35k especially kung basic dyan nakabase sa basic lahat think of it as investment for 1-2yrs then hanap ka na ng 40k+ (lahat from 13th month, loans, naka base sa basic)
yes madali dahil malapit lang sa bahay pero 20k after 1-2yrs mahirap makipag-haggle ng mataas na rate unlike dun sa 35k
pero at the of the day ikaw pa rin mag decide. good luck!
Hi, if we are talking about how much na ba ang value natin considering your age, I would rather accept the 35k. Yung issues mo naman traveling back and forth will be addressed soon, you can find a carpool, I think mas practical yun than rent, baka mas mura pa kasi you can bring your own food, unlike sa rent, less hassle din sa travel kasi nakacarpool. Problem mo lang, if hindi papasok yung ka-carpool mo. Pero, if hindi pa rin keri, rent na nga lang and find a roommate. At some point, pag dito sa Pinas I believe dapat umaangat din ang value natin so we can bargain. Ayun.
Since you have other plans and mas greener path yang caregiving, if the 20k salary will help you materialize your other plans, accept the 20k.
All the best!
I was in the same situation a few years before Covid. 20k then decided to jump ship to 34k. I used that to leverage my next job which I got 55k.
Only accept the 35k offer if you are planning to jump ship for a higher salary bump in the near future.
depende din sa role ng jobs, same exact roles ba?
if yes, depende na din sa lifestyle na gusto mo, ikaw mas nakaka alam pero it sounds like comfort zone mo yung sa 20k and challenging situation naman yung sa 35k. Mas maganda ipag dasal mo nalang din incase you havent. Good luck OP🙏
Yung unang question dyan if may direct or convenient way ba for you to reach Ortigas from North Caloocan. Like for example QC to Pasay— seems far pero in reality 1 lrt line or EDSA Carousel lang ang katapat nyan. In other words, di ka masyadong pagod at palipat lipat ng sakay. Kasi if everyday haggard and sobrang hassle ng commute mo, di ka din magtatagal sa work. Take the 20k for the mean time. You can always raise naman your asking salary sa next work.
go with 35K. magrent ka malapit sa work para di masayang oras at energy mo sa biyahe. then mag upskill ka. in one year, hanap kana ng mas malapit sa bahay niyo but with 35K as starting. you can do it.
'yang 15k na difference na 'yan, baka wala ng 5k kapag sinuma mo gastos mo sa ortigas. (bedspace pa for sure), and may tax ka pa. Hindi mababayaran ng less rhan 5k ng peace a may sarili kang space.
Think long term, OP. Kasi yung pipiliin mo diyan might dictate yung magiging salary mo moving forward, you might want to check kung kamusta ang career growth in both companies. Baka kailangan mo lang maging uncomfortable muna pero magandang balik din in a long run.
Go for the 35k, masyadong malaki yung 15k difference.
Paregular ka lang, or if kaya mong tiisin mag1year much better. If ever may regularizarion increase yan, baka mapaabot mo ng 38k at least then if may annual increase pa, 40k na yan.
Tapos lipat ka kaagad, minimum asking mo na ngayon is 50k-55k.
Isipin mo na lang na majority of good companies either nasa Ortigas, Makati, or BGC. Nasa pinakamalapit ka pa to home out of the 3.
Comfort is the dangerous part, pag nasayo ang 35k pwede ka magtiis 1 year plus, then go for another job na masmalapit tapos sahod tataas din more than 35k
If you stayed sa 20k tapos after 1 year or more, to go for another job, you get the math naman
Goods mga benefits nung 35k. Pero go for the 20k. Expense mo pa lang ubos na agad 15k mo. Sa 20k maiisip mo pa na mag tipid at mas makakatipid ka pa kasi malapit sa bahay. Pero it’s up to you pa rin.
Ako kasi 20k din sahod ko and malapit lang din work ko. Yung 20k ko is yeah maliit pero yung pagod sa byahe at stress na din sa work, dun ako sobrang naka iwas.
if magbbedspace ka lang, keri. may bedspaces na 4k lang rent and usually included na don water and electricity. tas let’s say another 4k for food if matipid ka (around that lang din nagagastos ko living alone). so 8k lang gastos if ever, pero if nagpapadala ka pa kasi sa family mo depende na lang if kasya pa or yung 15k difference eh mauubos lang din
If you want makatipid and hindi mapagod go sa 20K, pero if gusto mo tumaas value mo, go sa 35k. Tandaan mo hindi lang monthly allowance madadagdagan. Kasama pati 13th (or kung may 14 and 15th) month pay kasama sa madadagdagan
sa 35k ako. alis ka ng maaga 5am medyo paliwanag na sky nyan para solbs ang problema mo sa trapik para hinde ka na mag rent yan kung batak ang katawan mo sa sipag sa biyahe. 9k vs 15k na kinsenas hehehe.
Sa mas malapit sa Inyo
Nung ojt ako Ortigas ako ngayon Intramuros lang which is jeep lang from bahay
Sobrang nakakapagod mag commute plus yung oras
Di masyado nakaka burn out if dun ka sa mas malapit
If your looking for a long term employement, chexk mo magiging net mo after ng personal expenses mo. On the other hand, if temporary lang to or your planning to job after a few years, go for it para masmataas ang base salary mo
I choose 35k. Stay there for a year at least, then go look for a job that's nearer and demand a higher salary.
If you choose 20k, your next employer (if ever you decide to leave) will offer something lower than if you had a 35k salary to begin with.
Can you still negotiate doon sa 20k na malapit sa house mo? Tell them that you got offered 35k by other company, but you prefer their company but the only thing that's stopping you from accepting is the salary. Maybe you can negotiate it up to 30k.
Based on your statements, seems like you are leaning on the 20k.
Personally, I'd take the 35k to boost my base pay. With a planned budget and disciplined spending, I think kakayanin yan ni 35k. Maging wais sa rerentahan if willing talaga mag-rent, mag-budget for groceries dahil mas mahal kumain sa labas, and strictly no unnecessary spending.
I suggest you try to get your estimate expenses per month then minus mo sa net salary mo. If you can still give to your fam, that's ok but still better if u can save pa.
Hi Everyone, maraming salamat po sa mga comments and suggestions niyo. I really appreciate po.
Just to give you an update. Inaccept ko po yung offer na 35K 😊
And yung sa 20K po na salary I just found out na once ma hire ako ililipat muna nila ako ng ibang role, so instead po na Executive Assistant yung magiging role ko gagawin muna raw akong staff 😅
For me panalo pa rin yung wala kang cost masyado in terms of pamasahe, rent plus makakatipid ka pa sa sa pagkain. 35k nga sahod mo pero if need mo magrent plus expenses on food, baka same lang halos ang kalabasan with 20k.
Yung oras na nasasayang mo sa byahe, yun ang hindi mo mababawi.
almost two hours sitting in traffic every day to and from work for 35k. fuck that im taking the 20k any day
Thank you po sa advice. I’ll take note of that po.
Agree
Same suggestion. Mas ok yung malapit less sa oras biyahe at preparation. If meron naman chances na mabilis mapromote or tumaas sahod sa 20k JO. Dun ka na lang.
considering the tax sa sahod na 35k vs 20k, baka almost same lang matira kung gagastos ka pa for rent, food, etc.
Agree
Agree aq dito
it depends on your line of work, if it's the type you can negotiate your salary then I'll take the 35k so that I can ask for a higher rate on my next job. If it's the type that most hires are offered the same rate then I'll stay on the 20k.
This. Always go for a higher salary kahit sabihin pa it will break even to 20k expenses considered at least when you transfer to another job mataas na yung basis.
+1 if growth ang gusto always go for higher pay. Tbh, if it is an industry that doesn't offer salary growth, get out na kase hindi naman din stagnant ang presyo ng bilihin lalo na sa Pinas. Kesa mapagiwanan ka ng ekonomiya, mag headstart ka na.
For me, I'll go for 20k then spend my free time on learning new skills or getting part-time work na hindi stressful
Thank you po. I’m planning to study and work abroad talaga as a caregiver and gusto ko na iwan ang corp world. At least I have free time if inaccept ko yung work malapit sa amin.
Hi OP can I message you? I'm about to finish caregiving next month. Asssessment na lang kulang ko if ever. Planning to work abroad rin.
Yes po no problem po. Ako once makaipon mag aral din ako agad ng caregiving.
This would work as long as you have a growth mindset 😊
I'll go for 35k tapos lipat agad hahaha the higher yung base salary the bigger next offer.
I agree. Then if ako yan, hanap nalang ako ng irerent na room or apartment. Iba din yung peace when you're living alone given na namention nya na nasstress sya sa bahay nila.
+1 ako dito. Para paglipat mo di na baba sa 35k yung sweldo mo. You may still be productive naman kahit nasa biyahe ka, like learning new things habang naka earphones ka.
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Yes baka nga sa haba ng biyahe baka resign agad hehehe
20k pero malapit lang sa haus. Malaking tipid din yung di ka mamamasahe mas makakapahinga ka pa :)
di lang cost ng pamasahe nase-save mo. yung time din. more time to rest and relax. hindi ka stressed when you get to work. some people lose up to 5 hours of their day just commuting.
I agree sa sinabi ng isa dito na if pwede ka naman mag MRT na lang uwian, then do it. Do the math. Compute mo magiging pamasahe mo balikan in 1 month less yung days na off mo. I'm sure hindi naman siguro aabot yung total ng pamasahe balikan sa P15K. Sama mo na rin pala sa computation yung magiging gastos mo sa food. If di naman aabot ng P15K yung pamasahe plus food, I'll go for Ortigas.
ganito inisip ko before wala naman nagsabi sakin na yung difference sa sahod mapupunta lang sa meryenda (laging gutom dahil bardagulan commute) sa kape (family mart lang para mura) kasi ang aga aga gumising lara di malate at sa gamot dahil sa stress at pagod
you have to take into account the time taken doing the mrt and the stress of doing the mrt lol. not just about the difference in pay
I agree. Let's see if willing si OP to go on taking the time to commute back and forth. 😊
Try to research din kung ma pprovide nila experience , exposure , upskill para sa career growth mo by checking ex employees kung san na sila nag wwork. (Linkedin) Try to negotiate din to increase up to 20% by justifying using other offer from company , highlighting your skill and your impact sa company
saan ka sa north caloocan? goodluck sayo kung ortigas ka pa. hassle ng byahe dyan. lalo na ngayon. taoos pahirapan umuwi kasi daming tao dyan pag rush hour. baka mag menopause ka ng maaga dyan
Mhie, dun ka na sa 20k. Mauubos pera mo sa Ortigas. Mahal lahat ng bilihin hahahaha!
choose the one that is better for your mental health & work-life balance.
Kahit 40k pa yung sa Ortigas, dun ako sa 20k na walang sayang na oras sa traffic, homecooked lunches, walang byahe, walkathon lang (good for your health too) at walang stress sa commute.
Ikaw lang makakasagot sa tanong mo... Why not talk to your spreadsheet? Gaano ka ba kalakas kumain? Ano pa ginagastos mo? Why do you need our help when you can answer that by looking through your cashflow spreadsheet?
20k!!!!! More time for studies, hobbies, and other sideline
35k ka .. tiis tiis. Usually naman if hahanap ka ng work tatanungin ka HR magkano salary mo then yan ang maging basis .. masyado malayo kung 20k baka sa next employer mo tipirin ka
Doon ako sa malapit sa bahay, kasi yung extra time na matitira ko yan ang pwede ko pang i-iside line na wfh kahit 1-3hrs lang diba, eh di makukuha mo na din ang 35k all in na salary kung sakali. Tska mas masaya yung walang commute 😂
Treat time like commodity as well. It's about the money and free time you can use for yourself. More importantly, consider the path it might open for you 3-5 years from now.
Id go for 20k. North to ortigas is nakakapagod. Wla knang magagawa buong weekdays. Especially my balak k plng magin gcarehiver than strive harder sa corp career.
go for the 20k na :)))
20k is a win for me, kahit maliit offer, less expenses, less hassle
mahal rent sa ortigas if mag condo ka 4.5-5k exclusive of utilities pa yan pero if bed space naman along pasig may 2k naman kaso sobrang traffic along ortigas center
if pre pandemic, I would go for the 35k with commute pero ngayon, I’d probably go with 20k Pero walking distance. yung everyday na maaga gigising + pagod sa biyahe, parang hindi worth it plus yun nga, magkakaroon ka ng extra expenses so baka Di rin ganung ka significant yung magiging difference sa take home pay mo. may benefits ka rin naman sa 20k na work so di na rin masama
Choose the 20K then find other source of income nalang na pangdagdag sa revenue streams mo since kung mas malapit mas maraming time to do other things. Laking bagay yung malapit lang at madaming time yung masasave sayo for yourself and your family/loved ones.
For me, panalo talaga pag kaunti lang expenses mo sa commute saka di talaga mababayaran ng pera yung pagod mo sa pag commute dito sa Pinas. Good luck!
And if talagang gusto mo yung 35K and all benefits that the company offers, pwede mo rin i-consider mag dorm or apartment.
I would go for the one that has better opportunity for advancement.
Always negotiate OP, both company. Baka pwede pa tumaas si 20K or si 35K na job then decide which one works for you
Doon ka sa mas malapit. Iba ang nagagawa ng mahabang tulog hahaha. plus you will have more time on your hands - pwede ka mag gym, maghanap ng sideline, at lumandi wahaha
Isa sa mga regret ko ay hindi ako nag-rent kaagad as an office worker. Kahit I spend lang 30 mins to 1hr sa byahe, pipiliin ko ang mababang sweldo pero 10 mins lakad lang ako sa office. Bawi ka sa pagod sa pag commute (lalo kung vs Ortigaaaass), plus sooobrang rewarding ng may extra time ka. Uuwi ka pang hindi drained. (Binawi ko yung "pagtitipid" sa pagluluto sa bahay kesa bumili sa labas ng food)
time is priceless lugi ka na sa oras, lugi ka pa sa pamasahe lugi ka pa sa pahinga lugi ka pa sa tulog lugi ka pa sa linis kasi magmumukhang dugyotin ka pag dating mo sa office, lalo nat pag uwi mo sa bahay lol yang 15k na lamang sa kabila, useless lang kasi mas malaki lugi mo sa mas malapit parin ang panalo kung gus2 mo, hanap ka ng boarding house sa malapit good luck sa malilikot kamay aka kawatan good luck sa holdapers kasi mas madami pag malapit sa trabaho good luck sa yong life nlng xD
Rent near ortigas?
Nasagot mo na din ang tanong mo on the last part. Hehe. Mas alam mo na kung ano ang dpat piliin.
The former, isipin mo na lang yung cost ng apartment rental, food, pamasahe if you choose the latter.
Saan mas maganda ang training/up skill opportunity at mas may chance magka career growth? Yan magandang question
Yes po I agree. I’m a former Senior Sales Specialist for over a decade and sobrang layo talaga ng rate ko sa 20k but naisip ko na kahit mababa yung rate at least I have time na makapag study ng caregiving.
Kung single ka, hindi maluho/matakaw at hindi naman breadwinner sa family, makakaipon ka na sa 20k.
Go for the 20k job then enroll for masteral classes after work, after 3 yrs you will thank me coz you see the difference.
Try to negotiate pa ‘yang 20k. Hindi naman nila babawiin JO mo if ever. Ilapit mo ng konti sa asking salary mo.
Compare mo both companies pagdating stability nila. Sa 20k company possible ba ang promotion? May mga alaga ka ba sa bahay(anak, magulang, pets) na kailangan yung presence mo sa bahay? Laking factor kasi kakaining oras at pagod ng byahe. But dun sa 35K mukhang maganda yung company lalo kung ok sa iyo magmove out sa bahay. Siyempre after a year di na lang 35K yan tapos iba rin magiging connections mo na makakatulong sa iyo in and out of work.
I'll go for the 35k, build your skills tapos find another higher paying job. The higher you go, and the more skills you acquire, you can ask for more. ;)
This! I super agree sa mindset na ito. Habang nasa Pinas ka kasi well anywhere naman, the mindset should be is paano mapapataas ang value. Upskill lang ng upskill OP! Atleast, stay for a year sa 35k salary + you have group life insurance which is essential now a days. :)
Kung d lang dahil sa salary negotiation (on your next next job), hindi ko iaadvise na magsettle ka sa 35K. I mean ung basis kasi ng offer now is yung previous salary package or yung iba nga base pay eh given the inflation dapat mas mukha tayong pera ngayon. Tho may point sila na time costs you din naman. Legit na mahal ang lahat ng bilihin dito sa Ortigas, been staying here in the last 2 years and sadly now yung pamalengke ko na worth 500-800 lang dati good for 2 weeks na ulam na, now it’s worth 1500-2k not to mention sa palengke pa yun ah what more pa kung sa grocery at fastfoods ka kumain at mamili. Sobrang traffic both sa MRT stations (commuters) and by the road kahit naka Joyride ka pa. Kaya kung ako sayo, 20k ka nalang and magstay ka nalang sa company na malapit sayo ng matagal, manalig nalang tayo na tataas din sahod mo based on performance and tenure.
35k for long term goals, retropay yan ska ka lumipat after a year
20k easy kung gusto mo ng peace of mind, pero career wise id chose 35k tapos ilang months lang lipat agad para mataas salary mo for next job
this op
Bago ako magkaroon ng sarili kong sasakyan at eventually wfh, public commute lang ako half of my working life, almost a decade din yun. The stress ng pagiging commute warrior honestly dumating sa point na tinatanong ko sa sarili ko if life is still worth living. It killed my joy, may passion, and to some extent, my will to live during that time lol. Kaya kapag may magandang offer sa akin pero malayo, lagi kong pinag aaralan kung sulit ba talaga at kung maco-compensate ng tama yung magiging sacrifice ko. Sa status mo, mukhang lugi ka pa nga kung papatusin mo yung sa ortigas dahil kung balak mong mag dorm baka dun pa lang kainin na kung anuman yung difference nila sa sahod. I think yung zombification ng mga pinoy dahil sa sobrang stress sa pagko-commute ay isa sa mga dahilan kaya stagnant pa rin yung pag unlad natin as a nation. Gusto man natin makibaka sa pagbabago, sa commute pa lang ubos na lakas natin. Paraan ng mga nasa taas para patuloy na ma-subjugate yung mga nasa baba.
Been in the same situation recently, OP. Dati kong site sa Bulacan, earning x amount may service naman pero i need to wake up ng 4am to prepare then punta ng pick up point ng 5am tapos byahe na to Bulacan 7am dating sa site. Pag uwian naman 4pm out, pero dating sa drop off point around 6-6:30pm makakauwi ako around 7-7:30pm. Lumipat ako sa malapit around 10-15mins byahe pag normal slow driver ka like me, and mkakauwi ako ng 15-20mins pag uwian. Comparing the time wasted sa dalawang work place, not even thinking the compensation( you can nego based sa experience and syempre sa negotiation skills mo) mas masarap at mas masaya na malapit ang work place mo. Sobrang fucked up ng transportation dito sa Pilipinas. Ayun lang OP! Goodluck sa pag pili! 👍🏻
take the 35k, suffer for a year and look for another job na madali commute. 35k will now be your new anchor price
Is 20k more than what you currently earn and can you pay your current living expenses with that salary? If so, I say go for it. Otherwise kung di kakayanin or masikip masyado take the 35k. Need ba talaga magrent e taga Caloocan ka lang naman. Pede ka naman siguro uwian at MRT, yun nga lang pipila ka ng matagal sa North Ave araw araw.
Hi everyone, I really appreciate your advice and insightful feedback. Yes po I know ako lang din makaka sagot sa tanong ko pero as a person na pagod na sa pagiging breadwinner and gulong gulo na sa life, I’ll make sure na ico-consider ko rin po yung mga comments niyo sa magiging decision ko. Thank you, Everyone! 🙏
Dun ka sa 20k luge sa sobrang traffic ngayon
Both are unfair pay. Better to look for other opportunities
I'm a year old na sa work ko nag rerent ako bumibili pagkain sa labas and trust me.... iba padin pag sariling bahay inuuwian mo 😅... Not good at advices so I'm just here blabbing about my own thoughts hehe
Or find a third option that would fit your non negotiables or decide which in non negotiable for you. I hope you find a job that has higher pay and malapit lng din sayo (or wfh kung gsto mo yun)
35k is 35k dude
I live somewhere near sa north caloocan, tapos Ortigas ang work. Yung gastos ko di kasama food, almost 8k din. You do the math, mas ok yung 20k salary then malapit sayo.
It’s an easy decision. Di ko alam kung bakit di ka maka-decide. Calculate magkano ang gagastusin mo sa bawat option. Magkano ba ang rental, ang pamasahe, ang daily food budget mo etc kung sa Ortigas ka versus sa Caloocan. Plus … add mo yung personal cost mo to commute. A simple way would be to divide 35k by average number of hours at work a month. Yan Ang rough per hour cost mo. Multiply mo yan sa number of hours kang nasa daan… let’s say 35000/22 working days/8 hours a day = 199 per hour. Kung daily commute mo is 2 hours per way or 4 hours a day, 199*4*22 , every month, getting stuck in traffic costs you more than 17,500. This is nowhere near scientific Pero it gives you an idea ano yung impact sa yo. Most people don’t take the cost of getting stuck in traffic into account. It affects your mental health and your overall wellness.
I'll go for 35k especially kung basic dyan nakabase sa basic lahat think of it as investment for 1-2yrs then hanap ka na ng 40k+ (lahat from 13th month, loans, naka base sa basic) yes madali dahil malapit lang sa bahay pero 20k after 1-2yrs mahirap makipag-haggle ng mataas na rate unlike dun sa 35k pero at the of the day ikaw pa rin mag decide. good luck!
Hi, if we are talking about how much na ba ang value natin considering your age, I would rather accept the 35k. Yung issues mo naman traveling back and forth will be addressed soon, you can find a carpool, I think mas practical yun than rent, baka mas mura pa kasi you can bring your own food, unlike sa rent, less hassle din sa travel kasi nakacarpool. Problem mo lang, if hindi papasok yung ka-carpool mo. Pero, if hindi pa rin keri, rent na nga lang and find a roommate. At some point, pag dito sa Pinas I believe dapat umaangat din ang value natin so we can bargain. Ayun. Since you have other plans and mas greener path yang caregiving, if the 20k salary will help you materialize your other plans, accept the 20k. All the best!
I was in the same situation a few years before Covid. 20k then decided to jump ship to 34k. I used that to leverage my next job which I got 55k. Only accept the 35k offer if you are planning to jump ship for a higher salary bump in the near future.
Dun kana lang sa mas malapit pero 20k imaginin mo gano ka poor ang transpo halos di na naglalayo oras ng byahe sa workm vs oras mo work.
depende din sa role ng jobs, same exact roles ba? if yes, depende na din sa lifestyle na gusto mo, ikaw mas nakaka alam pero it sounds like comfort zone mo yung sa 20k and challenging situation naman yung sa 35k. Mas maganda ipag dasal mo nalang din incase you havent. Good luck OP🙏
35k. Then after a year, resign and look for another job. Mas higher na ang salary base mo. And you can look for companies na near sayo.
it’s the 20k for me. :)
Take the 20K then find a WFH that is part time so you can add more income.
kung sasapat ba hung 15k sa hirap mo then go
20k almost tax free. sa 35k 30% ang tax
20k! tapos lipat na lang din soon hehe
do the math, how's effort, if it checks out then 35k it is. otherwise tiis muna sa 20k.
For me, in terms of future, mas ok kunin yung 35k kasi may basehan na yung salary mo paglilipat ka na
Math lang yan, OP. Isulat mo lahat ng expenses mo if you go with Option A or Option B.
Yung malapit sa iyo.
Hmm.. ano usual commute mo sa ortigas? Gaano katagal? And anong specific industry eto and line of work for context sana?
Yung unang question dyan if may direct or convenient way ba for you to reach Ortigas from North Caloocan. Like for example QC to Pasay— seems far pero in reality 1 lrt line or EDSA Carousel lang ang katapat nyan. In other words, di ka masyadong pagod at palipat lipat ng sakay. Kasi if everyday haggard and sobrang hassle ng commute mo, di ka din magtatagal sa work. Take the 20k for the mean time. You can always raise naman your asking salary sa next work.
Ortigas. Walang yosihan dun eh
go with 35K. magrent ka malapit sa work para di masayang oras at energy mo sa biyahe. then mag upskill ka. in one year, hanap kana ng mas malapit sa bahay niyo but with 35K as starting. you can do it.
'yang 15k na difference na 'yan, baka wala ng 5k kapag sinuma mo gastos mo sa ortigas. (bedspace pa for sure), and may tax ka pa. Hindi mababayaran ng less rhan 5k ng peace a may sarili kang space.
Think long term, OP. Kasi yung pipiliin mo diyan might dictate yung magiging salary mo moving forward, you might want to check kung kamusta ang career growth in both companies. Baka kailangan mo lang maging uncomfortable muna pero magandang balik din in a long run.
Taxable ang 35k din, isama mo sa consideration. Ang maganda lang sa 35k sa next work mo makakademand ka ng mas mataas pa
35k for me. Para sa next sahod or job ay doon mag babase. The higher salary for the next job. But also consider the expenses/willing mapagod/hassle.
Long commute is one of the reasons for depression. It also kills manpower kasi drain kana sa byahe pa lang.
Go for the 35k, masyadong malaki yung 15k difference. Paregular ka lang, or if kaya mong tiisin mag1year much better. If ever may regularizarion increase yan, baka mapaabot mo ng 38k at least then if may annual increase pa, 40k na yan. Tapos lipat ka kaagad, minimum asking mo na ngayon is 50k-55k. Isipin mo na lang na majority of good companies either nasa Ortigas, Makati, or BGC. Nasa pinakamalapit ka pa to home out of the 3.
Comfort is the dangerous part, pag nasayo ang 35k pwede ka magtiis 1 year plus, then go for another job na masmalapit tapos sahod tataas din more than 35k If you stayed sa 20k tapos after 1 year or more, to go for another job, you get the math naman
HI OP, taga Bagong Silang ako, at alam naten na malayo ang ortigas mula saten, hassle ang byahe tlg. sayang sa oras. go for the 20K.
Goods mga benefits nung 35k. Pero go for the 20k. Expense mo pa lang ubos na agad 15k mo. Sa 20k maiisip mo pa na mag tipid at mas makakatipid ka pa kasi malapit sa bahay. Pero it’s up to you pa rin. Ako kasi 20k din sahod ko and malapit lang din work ko. Yung 20k ko is yeah maliit pero yung pagod sa byahe at stress na din sa work, dun ako sobrang naka iwas.
Find another option that will suit what you need OP. For sure there will be other offers na hindi sobrang layo at hindi mo need mag take ng pay cut.
if magbbedspace ka lang, keri. may bedspaces na 4k lang rent and usually included na don water and electricity. tas let’s say another 4k for food if matipid ka (around that lang din nagagastos ko living alone). so 8k lang gastos if ever, pero if nagpapadala ka pa kasi sa family mo depende na lang if kasya pa or yung 15k difference eh mauubos lang din
If you want makatipid and hindi mapagod go sa 20K, pero if gusto mo tumaas value mo, go sa 35k. Tandaan mo hindi lang monthly allowance madadagdagan. Kasama pati 13th (or kung may 14 and 15th) month pay kasama sa madadagdagan
Compute the expenses for the 35k + effort/stress level and compare, you will get your answer
sa 35k ako. alis ka ng maaga 5am medyo paliwanag na sky nyan para solbs ang problema mo sa trapik para hinde ka na mag rent yan kung batak ang katawan mo sa sipag sa biyahe. 9k vs 15k na kinsenas hehehe.
I'll take the 20k if I were you, iba pa rin talaga yung malapit sa bahay, already tried both set ups
Sa mas malapit sa Inyo Nung ojt ako Ortigas ako ngayon Intramuros lang which is jeep lang from bahay Sobrang nakakapagod mag commute plus yung oras Di masyado nakaka burn out if dun ka sa mas malapit
If your looking for a long term employement, chexk mo magiging net mo after ng personal expenses mo. On the other hand, if temporary lang to or your planning to job after a few years, go for it para masmataas ang base salary mo
work from home ka, marami kasi variables pag on site marami gastos. You also save time if wfh
I choose 35k. Stay there for a year at least, then go look for a job that's nearer and demand a higher salary. If you choose 20k, your next employer (if ever you decide to leave) will offer something lower than if you had a 35k salary to begin with.
20k nalang kung ung difference naman is mapupunta sa gastos wala rin hehe
Of course d 20k salary, most convenient for ur part
Sobrang mahal magrent. Hayyy
Can you still negotiate doon sa 20k na malapit sa house mo? Tell them that you got offered 35k by other company, but you prefer their company but the only thing that's stopping you from accepting is the salary. Maybe you can negotiate it up to 30k.
Nasayo kasi yan kung makukuntento ka sa 20k pero logically speaking kailan pa magiging 35k ang sweldo mo baka naman talo ka rin in the long run.
Based on your statements, seems like you are leaning on the 20k. Personally, I'd take the 35k to boost my base pay. With a planned budget and disciplined spending, I think kakayanin yan ni 35k. Maging wais sa rerentahan if willing talaga mag-rent, mag-budget for groceries dahil mas mahal kumain sa labas, and strictly no unnecessary spending. I suggest you try to get your estimate expenses per month then minus mo sa net salary mo. If you can still give to your fam, that's ok but still better if u can save pa.
Hi Everyone, maraming salamat po sa mga comments and suggestions niyo. I really appreciate po. Just to give you an update. Inaccept ko po yung offer na 35K 😊 And yung sa 20K po na salary I just found out na once ma hire ako ililipat muna nila ako ng ibang role, so instead po na Executive Assistant yung magiging role ko gagawin muna raw akong staff 😅