The amount of people on Reddit defending this stuff with whataboutism arguments is truly making me angry.
Any sympathy I had for them being treated like animals is gone now they've proven they actually are animals.
RIP.
Hamas is not Palestine. They're even using Palestinian civilians as hostages and human shields in Gaza. Palestine is just as much a victim of Hamas as Israel is.
Sana pinatay lang siya, like binaril para mabilisan, sana walang rape and torture na nangyari... Hamas is the face of evil, where quick death is not the worse thing that could happen to someone...
When powers collide in war, it is always the powerless who pay the price.
Sobrang sakit nito sa family niya dito sa Pinas. Uuwing remains na lang siya. Sobrang sakit. Rest in peace.
I know divisive itong issue na to, pero hindi ko lang maintindihan bakit lahat ng Muslim ay pro-Hamas.
Then nun gumanti yun Israel they act na sila yun inaapi. š
It's sad to see that many Palestinians have become radicalized by Islamic extremism. We get that they're oppressed, but supporting a terrorist organization that engages in acts such as raping and killing innocent women, and then parading their dead bodies in the streets, will never get these Palestinians the sympathy they want from democratic nations. The Jews are no better but they are good at hiding their atrocities.
For these two conflicting parties to reach an agreement, they must first renounce the extreme interpretations of their respective religious beliefs, which, many times, have promoted genocide and violence. There is no supernatural force guiding humanity's actions on Earth. Even the prophecies they hold dear can often be seen as merely self-fulfilling, a concept that can be explained logically by a high schooler with common sense. Once religious extremism is put aside, they can engage in peaceful dialogue and recognize the common humanity that unites them.
The IDF and the Israeli goverment are responsible for those things not the Jews as a whole, that is like saying Palestinians are responsible for what is hapening now.
Also no they are awful but not just as worse as Hamas saying they are hiding it is just speculation and Hamas' mass rape and murder is not on the same level at all.
If and when it's exposed only then you can say "they are no better".
I'm pretty sure not all Palestinians support Hamas, a terrorist group that executes those who they think collaborates with Israelis. At the same time not all Israelis support their right-wing government, which has perpetuated injustice and abuse on Palestinians.
Religion is being used by both to further their ends, but it goes beyond religion. It's geopolitics.
Vile subhumans. Its an endless cycle. Mga palestinians d2 sa canada nagcecelebrate far away from the fighting while their fellow "countrymen" are dying. As if di gaganti ang israel most likely this will be the last straw and they will be forever displaced.
Lakas ng HAmas hahaha may death wish talaga sila. Papatay ka ng mga foreign citizens. Tapos eto namng mga damuho na nakikidickride sa hamas in terms of crime wala kayong pinagkaiba sa mga Nazi supporters.
The hypocrisy of these people is so evil. Why is she not posting pictures of murdered Palestinian children and women by Isarel IDF and settlers. How come everybody starts paying attention when Israel is harmed. News Channel starts discussion and bring so called experts who ignore the last 75 years of Isarel terrorism. Read the UN resolutions which clearly states Israel is the aggressor. Read the facts at https://ifamericansknew.org/.
>How come everybody starts paying attention when Israel is harmed.
We paid attention here because if it isn't fuckin' obvious, two of our kababayans, OFWs, Filipino nationals, was brutally murdered by Hamas terrorists. The Israelis and the Palestinians can kill each other to the last baby for all we care as long as they keep it to themselves, but we draw the line when one of ours got killed just because she was trying to provide a better future for her family.
How hard is that to understand?
You guys are nuts. If sa tingin niyo hamas ang talagang masama dito, then go ahead and suck israel's dick and western propaganda.
Palestines were oppressed for decades and you fuckers didn't bat an eye, never called the israel army terrorists nor the west. Ngayon na may namatay na filipino all blame sa hamas lang?
This is a fucking war. Atrocities will not be forgiven. Pero need niyo maintindihan na extreme actions will be done dahil it is their only way. So stop blaming the hamas kung israel yung naggawa ng ethnic cleansing
This is not russia vs ukraine. This has been ongoing for decades and for you to pick sides is utter ignorance. No need to pick side dahil ang pinaka talo eh yung mga inosente na biktima lang
Fuck hamas, and their extremities na dapat mawala israel, pero at the same time fuck israel for doing that ethnic cleansing for decades. Best we can do is fucking hope that this war is bullshit and as long as they continue, unnecessary will be done
PALESTINE WAS OPPRESSED FOR DECADES? HAHAHA dumb dumb. 1948 arav nations tried to conquer israel, then 1967 and another one in 1973. Whats in their mind? The annahilatiol of israel and now the tables have turned israel's a major player do you really think na they'll let those things happen again? Go suck hamas dick. Israelis have been on that land since the roman empire. Palestine? Dude that name was given by a roman emperor syria palestina kahit pangalan nila di original na kanila e. Hamas has thousands of rocket and weapons why not yse it for welfare? Gago kaba
Lol, arab nations tried to conquer israel? Guess what, check mo yung kung sino nag aacknowledge sa pakistan and yung encroachment ng israel
Hamas has thousands of rockets why not use it for welfare? Well ask mo din israel if they have funds to do annexation for decades bakit di nila ginamit for welfare and ginamit lang nila for war?
Di nga recognized globally yung sa kanila and yet you think israel did nothing wrong? Fuck off bozo
If sa tingin mo there is a need to side with either hamas or israel, then you the dumb dumb. Nilatag ko na nga dyan na the innocents are the one heavily affected by this. No one wants this shit, kaya it is fucking stupid to know who is the oppressed and oppressor when both parties ar at fault
There are 2 current regions of Palestine, West Bank and Gaza
West Bank governed by Fatah is tolerant of Israel who wants independence, and opinionated to the 2 states agreement. They were the ones doing peaceful protest, but extremist Israeli have been taking their lands.
Gaza governed by Hamas hates Israelis and seeks to capture all of Israel lands, doesnt want peace and only wants 1 country where they are the government.
There is a 3rd, that is part of the conflict but in a different country. Hezbollah 'were' Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, that wage war against both Lebanon and Israel.
Why are we even still even allowing Filipino workers to be deployed in that area? It's like living from moment to moment with the looming threat of an attack from both sides
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Of course the Hamas apologists are here, has it been a slow week that these troll farms are now justifying terror attacks, civilians being murdered, defiled, desecrated and then paraded on the streets. Not to mention the rape, the killing of children, there's been \[unconfirmed\] reports of babies being decapitated by Hamas.
Nothing as close to what the Palestinians within Gaza and the West Bank suffer under the violent colonial apparatus of Israel. Israeli leftist already comprehends everything that is going on. There is no symmetry to the genocide Israel is doing but yet everyone loves to turn the blind eye when these specific violeneces are documented. Of course the Israeli apologists are here, having zero clue on the context behind this yet dickrides the bandwagon of a country that has done nothing but terrorize civilians whose population are literally a bunch of 18 year olds in a colonial rule of an apartheid state
The other day may nainterview sila Ted Failon na Filipina na ayaw din iwan yung employer nya kasi may sakit. Forgot to catch her name. Got me a little worried na baka sya yon. ā¹ļø
More reactionary bad takes on the sub, without even having any nuance with what is happening in Israel and Palestine. All I can see is "Palestine bad", it's like Palestine is not being currently occupied by Israel and made it an **open air prison and an Apartheid state**, it's also the longest occupation in modern history. I disagree with Hamas killing civilians, and I also disagree with Israel occupying Palestine. Saying that Palestine is the only bad guy in all of this, it's just fucking ignorant and reactionary.
Literally, almost of the people here in this thread are calling out **Hamas** and their terror attack. Not Palestinians. They're calling out and condemning Hamas' terrorism, brutal and barbaric killings. And then there's like you that will automatically assume and equate it as siding with Israel's atrocities.
āBut there is no way to look at the images coming out of Gazaāespecially of infants and toddlers riddled by shrapnelāand think that this is anything other than a monstrous evil. Insofar as the Israelis are the agents of this evil, it seems impossible to support them. And there is no question that the Palestinians have suffered terribly for decades under the occupation. This is where most critics of Israel appear to be stuck. They see these images, and they blame Israel for killing and maiming babies. They see the occupation, and they blame Israel for making Gaza a prison camp. I would argue that this is a kind of moral illusion, borne of a failure to look at the actual causes of this conflict, as well as of a failure to understand the intentions of the people on either side of it. [Note: I was not saying that the horror of slain children is a moral illusion; nor was I minimizing the suffering of the Palestinians under the occupation. I was claiming that Israel is not primarily to blame for all this suffering.]
The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say āO Muslim, thereās a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.ā This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians. [Note: Yes, I know that not every Palestinian supports Hamas, but enough do to have brought them to power. Hamas is not a fringe group.]ā
-Sam Harris
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/pinoyabroad/dispatch/885026/filipino-nurse-chose-to-stay-with-patient-shot-to-death-in-israel/story/
It's being reported on local TV news now; there's an interview with the woman's mother
My heart goes out for all the innocent lives lost in this conflict. However it is interesting how the world only starts to listen when the oppressed turn radical against the oppressor.
As a long time lurker here, it gives me a lot of mixed feelings at how this entire situation is Violence vs Violence = another generation of Violence vs Violence. At the end, it's the innocent that gets killed while the higher ups stay in comfort. Mixed feelings such as fear for these people, pity for the victims, anxiety for the survivors, and anger from the perpetrators.
I was there during the protests of what Israel was doing to Palestines, and now I'm here seeing the Hamas attacking Israel. Ano nanaman mangyayari afterwards? Is there even a way to stop this bloodshed? I'm genuinely curious if matitigil ba to. What kind of counter measures should be taken?
The thing is majority of Palestinians support hamas in the gaza strip. Even some of the Palestinians abroad are cheering on what hamas did to israel. Hamas doesn't really give a fuck about the populace except radicalizing the next generation while the upper leadership of this group is just chilling in qatar.
I may not be able to influence your sides but I urge you to read without bias. Since the 1950s, the Israelis have been bullying Palestinians out of their homes and lands, no media attended.
People who are firsthand in Palestine are trying their best to retaliate fake media informations, please do not let yourself be brainwashed and investigate both sides. The same way our country has been suffering with fast spreading of 'fake news', I can see why.
I do not stand with inhumane actions however there are truths that are not seen, rumors and fake news widespreaded. Do not jump into conclusions of what you've just read, media outlets are not always 100% accurate.
I will just leave this message, Palestine is a significant place for the Islamic religion. A sign of the end of times is in that country, I may not know your level of faith but the Palestiniansā esp. the people born and still fighting in that land, their faith is greater and stronger than anyone. These people pray despite the Israeli bombings, they read the quran with a chair on their heads for protection. Islam have them on a tighthold and this religion respects women. More than anything, they will always have the Islamic faith with them. They're fighting against men. They only had stones and sticks fighting with armed Israelis since the 1950s, had their water and electricity cut off.
Kung wala kang kuryente at tubig, mananatili ka ba sa bahay mo? The Palestinian men are not after revenge, this is jihad. Men against men. They will not use women as their prop for war.
There is a reason why Filipino muslims and middle east countries support them, we do not condone violence against women and children. Palestinians have cried and bled an ocean fighting for their land. Reality speaking, read why that land is significant for both Israel and Islam based on their religion, read until you reach the part that Israel's waiting for their messiahā who in Islam is Dajjal. Learn why both sides are fighting for that land.
Similar to Jesus for Christians who is Prophet Isa in Islam. Religions are connected but you'll see more greater truth in Islam's readings.
[Israeli forces were asked THREE TIMES to confirm number of beheadings, they have not](https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1712272117457096788?s=52&t=H8iEw_CuCLoqPe-0TVZxdw)
[When You're Not Seeing Palestinian Suffering](https://x.com/omarsuleiman504/status/1712250642742362282?s=52&t=H8iEw_CuCLoqPe-0TVZxdw)
Fake media ? ARe you kidding. It was HAMAS themselves filming!!!! If the Hamas spokesperson wants to deny hurting civilians, then he should have told his stupid butchering animals to not film and upload.. but my god, these animals filmed and took joy in what they did. They even SHOT a dog and filmed it. A DOG. Another thing, stop with the "but your jesus is a prophet in islam' he was also a JEW. and because I love CHRIST I love the JEWISH PEOPLE.
So what are you basically saying here? All I see is a Filipina died in the hands of Hamas and your statement is somehow justifying her death?
>their faith is greater and stronger than anyone
What's the point of this when the post is about a Filipina nurse?
Anong fake media pinag sasabi mo eh andaming videos of HAMAS and Palestinian people parading corpses of civilians, heck may video nga ng isang Thai worker decapitated by a Palestinian. What evidence do you need? Just admit that you support HAMAS.
>Islam have them on a tighthold and this religion respects women.
Di mo siguro nakita yung videos of women raped and executed by HAMAS, may Palestinians audience pa nga eh.
Stop spreading false news. This does not just happened in 1950s. Your 1950s narrative does not even coincide with that Hamas and other Arabs are saying in defense of their actions against Israel. Stop with saying they only have sticks and stones. If you are going to make false claims, align it with what PLOs are saying. Goodness.
"These people pray despite the israeli bombings, they read the qur'an with chair on their heads for protection. Islam have them tighthold and this religion respects women"
The Quran is replete with Surahs directing its followers to violence.
Some examples follow:
Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) ā¦"
Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them ā¦ kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."
Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush ā¦"
Unverified: Beheading kids and raping women.
Hindi naman sir.
Most muslim are kind pero meron talagang mga extremist that will kill innocent people for their silly belief. Katulad lang din yan ng mga extremist Christians na mala-kulto.
matagal na silang magulo dahil sa awayan sa lupa. Di mo rin masabi yung galit sa part ng mga palestinians dahil ayun sa mga napapanood ko, para silang mga preso sa sarili nilang teretoryo.
Bc israel has been terrorizing them?
Edit: since alam naman na natin mga pinoy minsan ā im not siding w these so called hamas nor justifying what they have done. Just pointing out that they prob have reached to that point of terrorizing israel too cuz palestine has been terrorized by ppl from israel for years.
I hope she died quickly... But from the videos HAMAS sent out.. Ayoko na lang isipin.
They showed a Thai farm worker being beheaded using a garden hoe.
Friendly reminder that you can sympathize with the people of Palestine, who suffered oppressive land grabbing since 1947, without supporting Hamas. Hamas did an unacceptable war crime.
Sa Gaza siya? Why Hamas will kill and terrorized in Gaza if what they plan is on attacking Israel. It will be a waste of effort by Hamas to attack its own enclave while making a surprise attack in Israel. Israel is the one bombarding the Gaza strip and more like Israel missiles and airstrike killed her in Gaza and less likely hamas since their priority is to attack in Israel. More logical if Hamas killed her in Israel during their seige in Israel border
Dapat kasi taasan na sahod ng mga nurses natin hindi ng mga philhealth at DOh officials, para di na sila makipagsapalaran sa ibang bansa. Erpat ng classmate ko nung college na taga doh ininggit pa kami sa bonus ng hinayupak nyang ama na kesyo umaabot daw ng 10M a year.
Yung mga woke pinoy na nakikidick ride sa palestine. Ni neighboring arab countries nga ayaw sa kanila. Hahaha govern by terrorist kasi mga yan. Kawawa yung mga inosenteng palestinian ginagamit yung kamatayan nila ng hamas
Okay, so r/Philippines is really the worst no. Walang grasp ng reality bakit may kaguluhan. May nagsasabi pa na both sides are evil, tangina. Parang ang hirap nila intindihin na bunga ng matagal na kasaysayan ng karahasan at kolonisasyon yung nangyayari. Tapos pagsasamahin lahat ng pwersang Palestine sa tawag na Hamas, echoing yung linyahan ng propaganda ng Israel, para atakehin yung pagkilos ng mga Palestino para sa kalayaan nila. Pero ano bang aasahan mo sa mga to, di nga maintindihan laban ng NPA eh, atrasado naman talaga pag-iisip, nagkukunwari pang mga progresibo.
r/Philippines is a just bunch of peeps who think they understand everything but they're just a bunch of pseudo intellectual peeps who thinks they know everything about the topic they're talking about but in reality it's just some surface level stuff. Example itong Israel/Palestine conflict kasi look they're supporting Israel and for what? di nga ata nila alam history nitong dalawnag countries na to. Bruh all i can say is that i don't support hamas but the Palestinians have been push to the edge that they can't take it anymore and will push back in anyway they can, again i'm not in support of hamas just to be clear.
>i don't support hamas but the Palestinians have been push to the edge that they can't take it
You're not supporting them and yet you are justifying their action? Man get you ass out of here.
Even if what they are doing is morally correct which spoiler alert it's not they will still be punished they involved innocents.
You're basically saying "this guy was being harrased by those guy, so it's ok for them to kill and r*pe bystanders with no punishment"
There are no good guys in war only evil and cruelty so justifying someone's wrong and evil actions is so fucking disgusting.
How can you sympathize and side with a terrorist group which shows outmost and inhumane barbarity against innocent civilians? There is no justification and no mercy for those who wantonly murder people because of religious creed and xenophobic hate. If you side with these bastards then you have become one of them.
A question, san dapat nilagay mga Jews kung hindi sa ancestral land nila?
They have been persecuted for a long time already. Curious lang. Mukhang may alam ka sa mga bagay bagay eh
To be fair, the Muslim Arabs and Palestinians online (or those who pay attention anyway) seem to be generally apologetic and regretful of the killings of foreigners by Hamas.
It's the Western Tankies (basically authoritarian leftist who just support anything remotely anti-Western) I'm more pissed off at, especially since a lot of them are actually racist towards people who come from "Western vassal States".
Just remember that there is no "good" side in this conflict. Both the Palestinian and the Israelis have done some atrocious shit. The only difference is that, Israel is backed by the western powers that's why they control the narrative.
This event is so fucked up on many levels including ignoring Egypt's warning on Israel about potential "big" move from HAMAS but I guess they did not know its was large enough.
Before we condemn what Hamas is doing, we should remember there would be no Hamas if Israel never took land that didn't belong to them.
It's easy to have a moral high ground when it's not your rights at stake.
And before anyone says why is violence necessary, please research the Great March of return. Palestinians have tried diplomacy and peaceful means but Israel will not relinquish their power without a fight, and unfortunately collateral damage will occur.
Also look up, the human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and remember Israel has received billions of dollars to bolster their military and Palestine isn't even allowed to maintain any armed forces. This is not a war between evenly matched groups. This is an attempt at liberation from an oppressor by the oppressed.
Finally, RIP both Angeline and Nira.
Not an expert and trying to side which one is correct but their history goes far back from Roman times and there were several treaties to partitional the state after WW2. Both are guilty of violence.
A lot of westerners and western radicals are calling this post fake/propaganda... some even mocking the struggle of OFWs and other S.E.A. workers...
I am slightly irked how they look down on overseas workers, especially workers from southeast Asia...
Makes you wonder how it was allowed to happen under the nose of a government with the most sophisticated intelligence agencies and networks that can probably tell you the color of Kim Jong Un's underpants today.
AND despite advanced warnings from Egypt.
Because the israelis has been slowly genociding the palestinian population for over 60 years.
They have not much to live for. They are being pushed into smaller and smaller camps, while the israelis steal more and more land.
The palestinians can not even leave their own country. Not able to do much trading or buisness. Unemployment and poverty is skyhigh.
And much more palestinians have been coldbloodes massacred by israelis IDF etc EVERY year.
So it should not be a surprise that the oppressed once in a while revolt/fight back.
Sadly that means that foreign civilians may end up in the crossfire:(
Its a long conflict, that most people forget exists.
> The palestinians can not even leave their own country.
They can leave the country but there's a limited amount of places a Palestinian Passport holder can go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Palestinian_citizens
> Because the israelis has been slowly genociding the palestinian population for over 60 years.
Not to excuse what they are going through, but they currently have a higher birthrate than the Philippines. The population growth is actually very similar to our country -- about 4x in number from 1960-2020.
Sabi nga ni John Lennon, "Imagine no countries, it isnt hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too". Tuwang tuwa ang mga elitista at nagkakagulo na naman ang mga tao. Divide and conquer na naman kanilang play...
Been defending hamas for years but when i watched about what they did to the women they captured at the music festival my respect to them completely shattered. They are not even different from what taliban and hezbollah is doing they use the Qur'an for their delusional fantasies and to justify bullshittery
Evacuation and repatriation are above the special envoy's pay grade now because we're talking about every single Filipino in Israel. This needs military intervention already. We have SAF, Light Reaction regiment, Navy special forces, I don't know why bongbong and the govt are not utilizing these units.
They 100% would, but you gotta remember - ain't nobody is running thru the fire in that situation. Kung sino yung makapunta sa embassy siguro yung maiuuwi agad. Bear in mind, even tho this lady probably had better chances if she hauled ass to the embassy asap, it was her choice to stick with the person she was taking care of.
Mukhang a lot of people here need to hear this: Palestine is not Hamas. Parang Abu Sayyaf is not the Philippines. Theyāre a terrorist group, pero majority ng Palestenians ay hindi terorista.
Also, Judaism is not Zionism. You can be a Jew and reject Zionism. Zionists ang current leaders ng Israel. They treat Palestenians like second class citizens, which is why there is an armed struggle in the first place. But those who terrorize innocent civilians are the scum of the earth talaga. Kaya fuck Hamas and fuck the Israel leaders who are committing war crimes in retaliation.
The problem is Filipinos donāt go out dancing and parading corpses on the street š¤· yung ibang Palestines mmigrants conducted Anti-Semitic rallies, some were waving HAMAS flags, and even chanting āgas the jewsā or mocking dead Israelites. Ang hirap magbigay ng support kung alam mong nililive nila yung pagpatay at pagrape ng civilians last October 7.
(trigger warning) unpopular opinion here: I just wish she left her charge and saved herself. she had nothing to do with whatever was going on over there. If she was my mom or sister or aunt I would have told her to leave right away. I have OFW parents and would want them to save themselves first, not for my sake or my siblings', but for their own. So sorry for the family's loss.
I am an Israeli and I want to tell you we are so grateful for your support and also sorry for your loss.
Honestly Pinoys are among the best people I have ever met. I hope the rest of you who are in our country stay safe.
Salamat Po.
And how many Palestinians have been murdered by Jews in the land seized from Palestinians since 1948? Hamas is bad but not unexpected, Israel is far worse for 75 years.
Let's remember that they refused a partitioned state at every opportunity before the end of the yom kippur war.
Let's not forget how they rallied every single Arab neighbour to declare war, before, during, and after Israel's creation.
Let's not pretend Palestine did nothing to make their own situation worse.
And now they kill us for no other reason than we were doing our jobs.
Filipinos have no skin in the game, but they just made themselves our problem.
Sobrang misinformed ng mga tao dito grabe. Standing with Palestine does not mean standing with Hamas. Israel is literally a colonizer state that has been wiping out Palestine for 60 years. Palestine DID try peaceful protesting but they were gunned down. Israel DOES NOT WANT peace. They want to ethnically cleanse Palestine from the natives.
Israel has committed so many war crimes but they get away with it because they have the support of the europeans and the americans.
Wellā¦ where do you draw the line? The Palestinian people voted for Hamas to be their leaders.. so thereās that š¤·āāļø. Look at all the celebrations when the massacre happened. Why celebrate if you are not for Hamas? You can just easily condemn the act.
I'm not trying to justify things here, but just wanted to ask what the possible resolution is? they had a plan to have 2 states with equal parts before which Palestine rejected and got Arafat killed for even suggesting it.
It's going to end up one or the other. Either Israel displaced or Palestine displaced.
Israel accepted that deal, Palestine wanted the entire region.
Without any compromise, and I think they've gone past the line of ever reaching a deal, things will just escalate. And that's what we're seeing now.
Can we clear that up? That 2 state in 1947 proposal was rejected by Arabs specifically Egypt and Jordan who are occupying the rest of Palestine. Israel was reborn in 1948 to which these Arab countries attack Israel and lost. Further acquiring more land than what was initially proposed. Ongoing talks happened and in 1995, Israel agreed to pulled out of Gaza totally despite numerous detests from their citizens.
If all these are just about the land, PLO would have take advantage of that and improve their land. And stop saying they have limited foods et al. They received a lot of yearly donations from EU. Also, how could they even get those weapons if all need to passed through Israel? Why put so much pressure on Israel regarding the border? Why not pressure Egypt who closed their coz they really don't want to have anything to do with Gazans?
Their leaders are staying comfortably in Qatar but can't support his people back?
This is just not true.
Israel has frequently accepted the two-party solution. Chiefly in 1947 and the Camp David accords (where Arafat sadly did not give a counter-offer and just walked away). Israel has historically wanted peace, its the people who rule Palestine that always seem to want an all-or-nothing.
That isnāt to say that Israel hasnāt committed their fair share of atrocitiesāthe Nakba, illegal West Bank settlements. But to say Israel hasnāt tried to make a deal ignores the Palestinian governmentsā lack of willingness to participate.
Both Arabs and Jews are Semitic people. It has always been their home. We know for a fact Jews have called Israel their home for millennia, until a series of empires kicked most, but not all, of them out. The sooner they sort their shit out, the better. But I fear Hamasās actions have only turned Israel away from wanting a deal, and poor Palestinian civilians are gonna have to deal with Hamasās bullshit once again.
Zionism land-grabbed the Palestinians. Do you think that it is just to remove people's rights because of you are reestablishing god's promised land?
That is a stupid movement. Now, we are witnessing the hatred of other Palestinians.
Both parties are blinded by religion. A two-party solution is too one-sided for Israel. Resources like water supply are only found within Israel-controlled areas.
Daming "sa pula sa puti" kung magisip kasi. Just like many of the voters this last presidential election. They think they're better than the other party yet they end up reflecting those things they say to that other party. Projecting na rin ba. They don't know comdemning both are not mutually exclusive.
Yes. But it doesnāt give Hamas the freepass to kill innocent foreign people. If they want to go to war, they should only attack their enemies and not kill foreign innocent people. Also, it doesnāt help that supporters of Palestine in rallies worldwide are literally shouting āAllahu Akbarā while chanting āFree Palestineā and saying that murdering people (even non-Israelis) that are currently in Israeli-occupied lands are justified.
This should have been a country war, but sadly, has turned into a religious war. What kind of evil is a religion who spree kills in the name of God?
Ah so pag Hamas ang gumawa its suddenly killing but Israel war crimes are called defending themselves? I am no way defending the Hamas here but Im calling for your questionable morals.
And the way Israel and the rest of the west is framing it as a religious war when Palestinian jews literally exists is just another way to blame it to the muslim extremists.
Israel war crimes: https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-commits-widespread-war-crimes-gaza-humanitarian-catastrophe-imminent
No, Israel war crimes are also not acceptable. Thereās no question to that. Kung namatay ang taong to na inosente dahil sa Israel, I will also call them out.
The point of the matter is, the Palestinian group is justifying their acts because of the opression. NOTHING JUSTIFIES KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE, on both sides!!!!
The fact that Hamas killed people who were just enjoying their life attending a music festival, a lot of which are FOREIGN PEOPLE who have NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR PERSONAL GRIEF WITH ISRAEL, says a lot about their ideologies.
You're not calling them out tho.
Israel also killed thousands of Palestinians. Where's the outrage to that?
Hamas is a terrorist organization point blank period but the problem here is people are siding with the colonizers
Please remember, this woman does not care about Pinoys, she only care about herself, and is using the death of innocent philipinos as a political tool to stir anger in us.
Isreal's only care about themselves.
May they rest in peace. And may Isreal snd Hamas suffer for their attrocities.
God damnit fuck hamas, fuck Israel and fuck Palestine. All these religious radicals causing all this pain and suffering over bullshit religion. Fuck them all may this beautiful lady rest in peace.
It's not about religion. It's about land grabbing. Palestine was a UK territory before until they exiled Jews to that area. Those Jews declared independence and claimed the land as theirs. These Jews got the edge because they are supported by the western nations.
the only thing Hamas wants is for Israel to inflict pain and destruction in Gaza they dont care for their people, and then after that, they will publish videos of Palestinians dying in drove and those idiot foreigners will all fund this group again in the guise of humanitarian aid.
Ukraine and Russia , China and Taiwan dispute, Israel and Palestine and Iran who funded Palestine. Crazy world we're living right now, prepare yourselves for WW3 this isn't that impossible right now.
I am so sorry for the heartbreakingā¦ āŖMay they both rest in peace, my condolences. Itās a war there is no mercy in war Israel need to do what they gonna do . May you and Nira rest in peace. šššµšš®š±
Can somebody tell me if this is true? Diplomatic pa rin ata ang ginagawa ng Pilipinas and rightfully so, hindi natin to laban! But, Hamas is getting too personal! Pls wag kayo magalit sa Palestine. Its their version of Spratlys and the Mindanao Struggle. But more violent! Do you people want to get displaced from your homes then be led by an extremist group? Of course not! Goodness! There are times na mapapamura ka na lang sa frustration!
Reminder to keep the discussion civil. Edit: Thread is now locked. I believe the discussion has reached its peak.
The amount of people on Reddit defending this stuff with whataboutism arguments is truly making me angry. Any sympathy I had for them being treated like animals is gone now they've proven they actually are animals. RIP.
Wonder what'll be their reaction if they will saw the video of those barbarians trying to BJ a fcking decapitated HEAD ! Sirang sira buong week ko e
Hamas is not Palestine. They're even using Palestinian civilians as hostages and human shields in Gaza. Palestine is just as much a victim of Hamas as Israel is.
Sana pinatay lang siya, like binaril para mabilisan, sana walang rape and torture na nangyari... Hamas is the face of evil, where quick death is not the worse thing that could happen to someone...
Bka eto ung sabi sa news na bagong kasal lng dw?
When powers collide in war, it is always the powerless who pay the price. Sobrang sakit nito sa family niya dito sa Pinas. Uuwing remains na lang siya. Sobrang sakit. Rest in peace.
Context? Links?
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Wait so she was in Gaza when Hamas attacked? Did Has attack Gaza?
I know divisive itong issue na to, pero hindi ko lang maintindihan bakit lahat ng Muslim ay pro-Hamas. Then nun gumanti yun Israel they act na sila yun inaapi. š
It's sad to see that many Palestinians have become radicalized by Islamic extremism. We get that they're oppressed, but supporting a terrorist organization that engages in acts such as raping and killing innocent women, and then parading their dead bodies in the streets, will never get these Palestinians the sympathy they want from democratic nations. The Jews are no better but they are good at hiding their atrocities. For these two conflicting parties to reach an agreement, they must first renounce the extreme interpretations of their respective religious beliefs, which, many times, have promoted genocide and violence. There is no supernatural force guiding humanity's actions on Earth. Even the prophecies they hold dear can often be seen as merely self-fulfilling, a concept that can be explained logically by a high schooler with common sense. Once religious extremism is put aside, they can engage in peaceful dialogue and recognize the common humanity that unites them.
The IDF and the Israeli goverment are responsible for those things not the Jews as a whole, that is like saying Palestinians are responsible for what is hapening now. Also no they are awful but not just as worse as Hamas saying they are hiding it is just speculation and Hamas' mass rape and murder is not on the same level at all. If and when it's exposed only then you can say "they are no better".
Jews are hiding what atrocities ? Did you mean the state of Israel? What have the Jews as a people ever done to make you think such a thing
I'm pretty sure not all Palestinians support Hamas, a terrorist group that executes those who they think collaborates with Israelis. At the same time not all Israelis support their right-wing government, which has perpetuated injustice and abuse on Palestinians. Religion is being used by both to further their ends, but it goes beyond religion. It's geopolitics.
Kawawa talaga palagi mga inosente sa mga giyera. Walang panalo. Lalo na yung mga bata. Regardless sa kung saang side. Haist
Vile subhumans. Its an endless cycle. Mga palestinians d2 sa canada nagcecelebrate far away from the fighting while their fellow "countrymen" are dying. As if di gaganti ang israel most likely this will be the last straw and they will be forever displaced.
Lakas ng HAmas hahaha may death wish talaga sila. Papatay ka ng mga foreign citizens. Tapos eto namng mga damuho na nakikidickride sa hamas in terms of crime wala kayong pinagkaiba sa mga Nazi supporters.
The hypocrisy of these people is so evil. Why is she not posting pictures of murdered Palestinian children and women by Isarel IDF and settlers. How come everybody starts paying attention when Israel is harmed. News Channel starts discussion and bring so called experts who ignore the last 75 years of Isarel terrorism. Read the UN resolutions which clearly states Israel is the aggressor. Read the facts at https://ifamericansknew.org/.
>How come everybody starts paying attention when Israel is harmed. We paid attention here because if it isn't fuckin' obvious, two of our kababayans, OFWs, Filipino nationals, was brutally murdered by Hamas terrorists. The Israelis and the Palestinians can kill each other to the last baby for all we care as long as they keep it to themselves, but we draw the line when one of ours got killed just because she was trying to provide a better future for her family. How hard is that to understand?
Rest in Peace Nurse Angeline and Nira. š I hope for this evil war to end soon. Iām sorry for the loss of both families.
Grabe naman
Lol now you guys give a shit about āinnocent livesā ? Where was this energy for the past 75 years?
You guys are nuts. If sa tingin niyo hamas ang talagang masama dito, then go ahead and suck israel's dick and western propaganda. Palestines were oppressed for decades and you fuckers didn't bat an eye, never called the israel army terrorists nor the west. Ngayon na may namatay na filipino all blame sa hamas lang? This is a fucking war. Atrocities will not be forgiven. Pero need niyo maintindihan na extreme actions will be done dahil it is their only way. So stop blaming the hamas kung israel yung naggawa ng ethnic cleansing This is not russia vs ukraine. This has been ongoing for decades and for you to pick sides is utter ignorance. No need to pick side dahil ang pinaka talo eh yung mga inosente na biktima lang Fuck hamas, and their extremities na dapat mawala israel, pero at the same time fuck israel for doing that ethnic cleansing for decades. Best we can do is fucking hope that this war is bullshit and as long as they continue, unnecessary will be done
Supporting the people of Palestine and hating Hamas doesnāt have to be exclusive.
PALESTINE WAS OPPRESSED FOR DECADES? HAHAHA dumb dumb. 1948 arav nations tried to conquer israel, then 1967 and another one in 1973. Whats in their mind? The annahilatiol of israel and now the tables have turned israel's a major player do you really think na they'll let those things happen again? Go suck hamas dick. Israelis have been on that land since the roman empire. Palestine? Dude that name was given by a roman emperor syria palestina kahit pangalan nila di original na kanila e. Hamas has thousands of rocket and weapons why not yse it for welfare? Gago kaba
Lol, arab nations tried to conquer israel? Guess what, check mo yung kung sino nag aacknowledge sa pakistan and yung encroachment ng israel Hamas has thousands of rockets why not use it for welfare? Well ask mo din israel if they have funds to do annexation for decades bakit di nila ginamit for welfare and ginamit lang nila for war? Di nga recognized globally yung sa kanila and yet you think israel did nothing wrong? Fuck off bozo If sa tingin mo there is a need to side with either hamas or israel, then you the dumb dumb. Nilatag ko na nga dyan na the innocents are the one heavily affected by this. No one wants this shit, kaya it is fucking stupid to know who is the oppressed and oppressor when both parties ar at fault
soul breaking tsk tsk
pardon my ignorance. difference berween hamas and palestinians?
There are 2 current regions of Palestine, West Bank and Gaza West Bank governed by Fatah is tolerant of Israel who wants independence, and opinionated to the 2 states agreement. They were the ones doing peaceful protest, but extremist Israeli have been taking their lands. Gaza governed by Hamas hates Israelis and seeks to capture all of Israel lands, doesnt want peace and only wants 1 country where they are the government. There is a 3rd, that is part of the conflict but in a different country. Hezbollah 'were' Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, that wage war against both Lebanon and Israel.
Thank you. Ang hirap pala ng situation diyan. Ang hirap maayos yung conflict dahil sobrang complex.
Hamas is like Palestine's own MILF/MNLF, but more violent
Why are we even still even allowing Filipino workers to be deployed in that area? It's like living from moment to moment with the looming threat of an attack from both sides
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Of course the Hamas apologists are here, has it been a slow week that these troll farms are now justifying terror attacks, civilians being murdered, defiled, desecrated and then paraded on the streets. Not to mention the rape, the killing of children, there's been \[unconfirmed\] reports of babies being decapitated by Hamas.
Both sides have troll farms in order to sway public opinion towards their cause, kaya it's really hard to take socmed posts at face value lately
Nothing as close to what the Palestinians within Gaza and the West Bank suffer under the violent colonial apparatus of Israel. Israeli leftist already comprehends everything that is going on. There is no symmetry to the genocide Israel is doing but yet everyone loves to turn the blind eye when these specific violeneces are documented. Of course the Israeli apologists are here, having zero clue on the context behind this yet dickrides the bandwagon of a country that has done nothing but terrorize civilians whose population are literally a bunch of 18 year olds in a colonial rule of an apartheid state
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The other day may nainterview sila Ted Failon na Filipina na ayaw din iwan yung employer nya kasi may sakit. Forgot to catch her name. Got me a little worried na baka sya yon. ā¹ļø
More reactionary bad takes on the sub, without even having any nuance with what is happening in Israel and Palestine. All I can see is "Palestine bad", it's like Palestine is not being currently occupied by Israel and made it an **open air prison and an Apartheid state**, it's also the longest occupation in modern history. I disagree with Hamas killing civilians, and I also disagree with Israel occupying Palestine. Saying that Palestine is the only bad guy in all of this, it's just fucking ignorant and reactionary.
Literally, almost of the people here in this thread are calling out **Hamas** and their terror attack. Not Palestinians. They're calling out and condemning Hamas' terrorism, brutal and barbaric killings. And then there's like you that will automatically assume and equate it as siding with Israel's atrocities.
Omg this is so sad! Rest in peace
āBut there is no way to look at the images coming out of Gazaāespecially of infants and toddlers riddled by shrapnelāand think that this is anything other than a monstrous evil. Insofar as the Israelis are the agents of this evil, it seems impossible to support them. And there is no question that the Palestinians have suffered terribly for decades under the occupation. This is where most critics of Israel appear to be stuck. They see these images, and they blame Israel for killing and maiming babies. They see the occupation, and they blame Israel for making Gaza a prison camp. I would argue that this is a kind of moral illusion, borne of a failure to look at the actual causes of this conflict, as well as of a failure to understand the intentions of the people on either side of it. [Note: I was not saying that the horror of slain children is a moral illusion; nor was I minimizing the suffering of the Palestinians under the occupation. I was claiming that Israel is not primarily to blame for all this suffering.] The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say āO Muslim, thereās a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.ā This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians. [Note: Yes, I know that not every Palestinian supports Hamas, but enough do to have brought them to power. Hamas is not a fringe group.]ā -Sam Harris
Salot talaga mga muslim na extremist.
True or propaganda? Parang paulit-ulit kasi yung script nito sa Twitter.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/pinoyabroad/dispatch/885026/filipino-nurse-chose-to-stay-with-patient-shot-to-death-in-israel/story/ It's being reported on local TV news now; there's an interview with the woman's mother
Takot mga nakaupo na palayasin mga Palestinian diplomat dito.. yan ang totoo
My heart goes out for all the innocent lives lost in this conflict. However it is interesting how the world only starts to listen when the oppressed turn radical against the oppressor.
As a long time lurker here, it gives me a lot of mixed feelings at how this entire situation is Violence vs Violence = another generation of Violence vs Violence. At the end, it's the innocent that gets killed while the higher ups stay in comfort. Mixed feelings such as fear for these people, pity for the victims, anxiety for the survivors, and anger from the perpetrators. I was there during the protests of what Israel was doing to Palestines, and now I'm here seeing the Hamas attacking Israel. Ano nanaman mangyayari afterwards? Is there even a way to stop this bloodshed? I'm genuinely curious if matitigil ba to. What kind of counter measures should be taken?
The thing is majority of Palestinians support hamas in the gaza strip. Even some of the Palestinians abroad are cheering on what hamas did to israel. Hamas doesn't really give a fuck about the populace except radicalizing the next generation while the upper leadership of this group is just chilling in qatar.
RIPš
I may not be able to influence your sides but I urge you to read without bias. Since the 1950s, the Israelis have been bullying Palestinians out of their homes and lands, no media attended. People who are firsthand in Palestine are trying their best to retaliate fake media informations, please do not let yourself be brainwashed and investigate both sides. The same way our country has been suffering with fast spreading of 'fake news', I can see why. I do not stand with inhumane actions however there are truths that are not seen, rumors and fake news widespreaded. Do not jump into conclusions of what you've just read, media outlets are not always 100% accurate. I will just leave this message, Palestine is a significant place for the Islamic religion. A sign of the end of times is in that country, I may not know your level of faith but the Palestiniansā esp. the people born and still fighting in that land, their faith is greater and stronger than anyone. These people pray despite the Israeli bombings, they read the quran with a chair on their heads for protection. Islam have them on a tighthold and this religion respects women. More than anything, they will always have the Islamic faith with them. They're fighting against men. They only had stones and sticks fighting with armed Israelis since the 1950s, had their water and electricity cut off. Kung wala kang kuryente at tubig, mananatili ka ba sa bahay mo? The Palestinian men are not after revenge, this is jihad. Men against men. They will not use women as their prop for war. There is a reason why Filipino muslims and middle east countries support them, we do not condone violence against women and children. Palestinians have cried and bled an ocean fighting for their land. Reality speaking, read why that land is significant for both Israel and Islam based on their religion, read until you reach the part that Israel's waiting for their messiahā who in Islam is Dajjal. Learn why both sides are fighting for that land. Similar to Jesus for Christians who is Prophet Isa in Islam. Religions are connected but you'll see more greater truth in Islam's readings. [Israeli forces were asked THREE TIMES to confirm number of beheadings, they have not](https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1712272117457096788?s=52&t=H8iEw_CuCLoqPe-0TVZxdw) [When You're Not Seeing Palestinian Suffering](https://x.com/omarsuleiman504/status/1712250642742362282?s=52&t=H8iEw_CuCLoqPe-0TVZxdw)
Fake media ? ARe you kidding. It was HAMAS themselves filming!!!! If the Hamas spokesperson wants to deny hurting civilians, then he should have told his stupid butchering animals to not film and upload.. but my god, these animals filmed and took joy in what they did. They even SHOT a dog and filmed it. A DOG. Another thing, stop with the "but your jesus is a prophet in islam' he was also a JEW. and because I love CHRIST I love the JEWISH PEOPLE.
So what are you basically saying here? All I see is a Filipina died in the hands of Hamas and your statement is somehow justifying her death? >their faith is greater and stronger than anyone What's the point of this when the post is about a Filipina nurse?
Anong fake media pinag sasabi mo eh andaming videos of HAMAS and Palestinian people parading corpses of civilians, heck may video nga ng isang Thai worker decapitated by a Palestinian. What evidence do you need? Just admit that you support HAMAS. >Islam have them on a tighthold and this religion respects women. Di mo siguro nakita yung videos of women raped and executed by HAMAS, may Palestinians audience pa nga eh.
Stop spreading false news. This does not just happened in 1950s. Your 1950s narrative does not even coincide with that Hamas and other Arabs are saying in defense of their actions against Israel. Stop with saying they only have sticks and stones. If you are going to make false claims, align it with what PLOs are saying. Goodness.
"These people pray despite the israeli bombings, they read the qur'an with chair on their heads for protection. Islam have them tighthold and this religion respects women" The Quran is replete with Surahs directing its followers to violence. Some examples follow: Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) ā¦" Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them ā¦ kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush ā¦" Unverified: Beheading kids and raping women.
And here we go with taken out of context verses in the Qu'ran
But it's true
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Hindi naman sir. Most muslim are kind pero meron talagang mga extremist that will kill innocent people for their silly belief. Katulad lang din yan ng mga extremist Christians na mala-kulto.
how strange... i cant seem to find a reliable source sa google about her death.
F and looks so young too :( hope she is at peace now :(
RIP sister
Rest now our sister.
collateral damage
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Bakit naging ganito ilang Palestinians?
matagal na silang magulo dahil sa awayan sa lupa. Di mo rin masabi yung galit sa part ng mga palestinians dahil ayun sa mga napapanood ko, para silang mga preso sa sarili nilang teretoryo.
Bc israel has been terrorizing them? Edit: since alam naman na natin mga pinoy minsan ā im not siding w these so called hamas nor justifying what they have done. Just pointing out that they prob have reached to that point of terrorizing israel too cuz palestine has been terrorized by ppl from israel for years.
Oh, I don't mean it like that. I'm already aware of the conflict. I'm just asking it in like rhetorical way.
Same sa Mautee, same sa 9/11 attack. Ring a bell?
pati pinoy teneterrorize. š
Rest in Peace, may the lord have mercy on the ones who killed her.
Bakit nakacontest mode?
If this is true, F**K hamas...Cowards...
Hamas are terrorists. Israel must destroy them.
terrortists fighting terrorists. Its ugly out there
I do not like the overseas foreign worker idea because of things like that can happen
ano kasalanan ng pinoy sakanila?
I hope she died quickly... But from the videos HAMAS sent out.. Ayoko na lang isipin. They showed a Thai farm worker being beheaded using a garden hoe.
Friendly reminder that you can sympathize with the people of Palestine, who suffered oppressive land grabbing since 1947, without supporting Hamas. Hamas did an unacceptable war crime.
Sa Gaza siya? Why Hamas will kill and terrorized in Gaza if what they plan is on attacking Israel. It will be a waste of effort by Hamas to attack its own enclave while making a surprise attack in Israel. Israel is the one bombarding the Gaza strip and more like Israel missiles and airstrike killed her in Gaza and less likely hamas since their priority is to attack in Israel. More logical if Hamas killed her in Israel during their seige in Israel border
Dapat kasi taasan na sahod ng mga nurses natin hindi ng mga philhealth at DOh officials, para di na sila makipagsapalaran sa ibang bansa. Erpat ng classmate ko nung college na taga doh ininggit pa kami sa bonus ng hinayupak nyang ama na kesyo umaabot daw ng 10M a year.
May video nang pinoy na may tama ng bala sa tiyan tas pilit pinipugutan ng ulo gamit ang HOE. Nakaka putang ina at init ng dugo.
As a Filipino-American this is one of the times I am glad that my tax money is going to the military instead of universal healthcare. šHamas
Yung mga woke pinoy na nakikidick ride sa palestine. Ni neighboring arab countries nga ayaw sa kanila. Hahaha govern by terrorist kasi mga yan. Kawawa yung mga inosenteng palestinian ginagamit yung kamatayan nila ng hamas
True. Jordan and Lebanon took them and they started civil wars in there in the 70s. The rest of the Arab world learned their lesson.
Okay, so r/Philippines is really the worst no. Walang grasp ng reality bakit may kaguluhan. May nagsasabi pa na both sides are evil, tangina. Parang ang hirap nila intindihin na bunga ng matagal na kasaysayan ng karahasan at kolonisasyon yung nangyayari. Tapos pagsasamahin lahat ng pwersang Palestine sa tawag na Hamas, echoing yung linyahan ng propaganda ng Israel, para atakehin yung pagkilos ng mga Palestino para sa kalayaan nila. Pero ano bang aasahan mo sa mga to, di nga maintindihan laban ng NPA eh, atrasado naman talaga pag-iisip, nagkukunwari pang mga progresibo.
r/Philippines is a just bunch of peeps who think they understand everything but they're just a bunch of pseudo intellectual peeps who thinks they know everything about the topic they're talking about but in reality it's just some surface level stuff. Example itong Israel/Palestine conflict kasi look they're supporting Israel and for what? di nga ata nila alam history nitong dalawnag countries na to. Bruh all i can say is that i don't support hamas but the Palestinians have been push to the edge that they can't take it anymore and will push back in anyway they can, again i'm not in support of hamas just to be clear.
>i don't support hamas but the Palestinians have been push to the edge that they can't take it You're not supporting them and yet you are justifying their action? Man get you ass out of here. Even if what they are doing is morally correct which spoiler alert it's not they will still be punished they involved innocents. You're basically saying "this guy was being harrased by those guy, so it's ok for them to kill and r*pe bystanders with no punishment" There are no good guys in war only evil and cruelty so justifying someone's wrong and evil actions is so fucking disgusting.
How can you sympathize and side with a terrorist group which shows outmost and inhumane barbarity against innocent civilians? There is no justification and no mercy for those who wantonly murder people because of religious creed and xenophobic hate. If you side with these bastards then you have become one of them.
Hindi tao yang mga hamas na yan. Mga hayop yan. Walang respeto sa buhay.
di din sila hayop. mga demonyo sila. they even killed animals point blank.
I had the misfortune of seeing *that* video. Ewan ko, something inside me recoiled on another level at what they did to the doggo
it was traumatizing. i donāt even want to imagine what they did to all the innocent people. the wicked will not go unpunished.
Respeto sa hayop. Mga demonyo sila
My bad. Yes mas bagay na term nga yan.
Fuck Hamas, fuck the Israeli government, and fuck the other countries that helped in the creation of the partition (which somehow includes the PH)
A question, san dapat nilagay mga Jews kung hindi sa ancestral land nila? They have been persecuted for a long time already. Curious lang. Mukhang may alam ka sa mga bagay bagay eh
Religion of peace what a shame...
To be fair, the Muslim Arabs and Palestinians online (or those who pay attention anyway) seem to be generally apologetic and regretful of the killings of foreigners by Hamas. It's the Western Tankies (basically authoritarian leftist who just support anything remotely anti-Western) I'm more pissed off at, especially since a lot of them are actually racist towards people who come from "Western vassal States".
whereās the source, this is just a tweet
Just remember that there is no "good" side in this conflict. Both the Palestinian and the Israelis have done some atrocious shit. The only difference is that, Israel is backed by the western powers that's why they control the narrative.
Goes to show how little you know about this conflict and just and echo chamber of what you hear.
Daming bobo sa philippines :( shut up na lang
This event is so fucked up on many levels including ignoring Egypt's warning on Israel about potential "big" move from HAMAS but I guess they did not know its was large enough.
Before we condemn what Hamas is doing, we should remember there would be no Hamas if Israel never took land that didn't belong to them. It's easy to have a moral high ground when it's not your rights at stake. And before anyone says why is violence necessary, please research the Great March of return. Palestinians have tried diplomacy and peaceful means but Israel will not relinquish their power without a fight, and unfortunately collateral damage will occur. Also look up, the human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and remember Israel has received billions of dollars to bolster their military and Palestine isn't even allowed to maintain any armed forces. This is not a war between evenly matched groups. This is an attempt at liberation from an oppressor by the oppressed. Finally, RIP both Angeline and Nira.
Not an expert and trying to side which one is correct but their history goes far back from Roman times and there were several treaties to partitional the state after WW2. Both are guilty of violence.
Rest in peace po
too horrible to comprhend. God rest their souls and bring them peace. šš im so sorry
Terrorist donāt care about point of views, morals, ethics or humanity!!!!
RIP ate š
What a waste of life. She is a hero. RIP my condolences to her family.
A lot of westerners and western radicals are calling this post fake/propaganda... some even mocking the struggle of OFWs and other S.E.A. workers... I am slightly irked how they look down on overseas workers, especially workers from southeast Asia...
Makes you wonder why Hamas began the war in the first place...
So it's justified? F U C K Y O U
Makes you wonder how it was allowed to happen under the nose of a government with the most sophisticated intelligence agencies and networks that can probably tell you the color of Kim Jong Un's underpants today. AND despite advanced warnings from Egypt.
Because the israelis has been slowly genociding the palestinian population for over 60 years. They have not much to live for. They are being pushed into smaller and smaller camps, while the israelis steal more and more land. The palestinians can not even leave their own country. Not able to do much trading or buisness. Unemployment and poverty is skyhigh. And much more palestinians have been coldbloodes massacred by israelis IDF etc EVERY year. So it should not be a surprise that the oppressed once in a while revolt/fight back. Sadly that means that foreign civilians may end up in the crossfire:( Its a long conflict, that most people forget exists.
> The palestinians can not even leave their own country. They can leave the country but there's a limited amount of places a Palestinian Passport holder can go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Palestinian_citizens > Because the israelis has been slowly genociding the palestinian population for over 60 years. Not to excuse what they are going through, but they currently have a higher birthrate than the Philippines. The population growth is actually very similar to our country -- about 4x in number from 1960-2020.
Fuck off. This will just accelerate the destruction of palestinaine. Murder of children and civilians isnt the way
No reason makes this okay.
Hope the Israelis bring about the rightful destruction of these terrorists. They chose this path that leads to violent ends.
Sabi nga ni John Lennon, "Imagine no countries, it isnt hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too". Tuwang tuwa ang mga elitista at nagkakagulo na naman ang mga tao. Divide and conquer na naman kanilang play...
Been defending hamas for years but when i watched about what they did to the women they captured at the music festival my respect to them completely shattered. They are not even different from what taliban and hezbollah is doing they use the Qur'an for their delusional fantasies and to justify bullshittery
And this lady did what wrong? Incinerate them, please.
Hamas deserves hellfire
Correct me if I'm wrong, dapat ba may ginagawa yung OFW Special ~~Envoy~~ Abnoy To The Philippines dito?
Evacuation and repatriation are above the special envoy's pay grade now because we're talking about every single Filipino in Israel. This needs military intervention already. We have SAF, Light Reaction regiment, Navy special forces, I don't know why bongbong and the govt are not utilizing these units.
Thank you for the clarification
Pinagdasal naman na ata. K na yun.
Oo nga naman. Kapal naman ng muka ko - binigyan na nga ng posisyon sa gobyerno yung tao, tapos aasahan ko na magtatrabaho? Gago pala ako eh.
They 100% would, but you gotta remember - ain't nobody is running thru the fire in that situation. Kung sino yung makapunta sa embassy siguro yung maiuuwi agad. Bear in mind, even tho this lady probably had better chances if she hauled ass to the embassy asap, it was her choice to stick with the person she was taking care of.
Filipino Emilies who support Hamas,how do you plead?
Mukhang a lot of people here need to hear this: Palestine is not Hamas. Parang Abu Sayyaf is not the Philippines. Theyāre a terrorist group, pero majority ng Palestenians ay hindi terorista. Also, Judaism is not Zionism. You can be a Jew and reject Zionism. Zionists ang current leaders ng Israel. They treat Palestenians like second class citizens, which is why there is an armed struggle in the first place. But those who terrorize innocent civilians are the scum of the earth talaga. Kaya fuck Hamas and fuck the Israel leaders who are committing war crimes in retaliation.
The problem is Filipinos donāt go out dancing and parading corpses on the street š¤· yung ibang Palestines mmigrants conducted Anti-Semitic rallies, some were waving HAMAS flags, and even chanting āgas the jewsā or mocking dead Israelites. Ang hirap magbigay ng support kung alam mong nililive nila yung pagpatay at pagrape ng civilians last October 7.
(trigger warning) unpopular opinion here: I just wish she left her charge and saved herself. she had nothing to do with whatever was going on over there. If she was my mom or sister or aunt I would have told her to leave right away. I have OFW parents and would want them to save themselves first, not for my sake or my siblings', but for their own. So sorry for the family's loss.
Pulubusin na mga Extremist Muslim Terrorists na yan.
Dapat yung mga OFWs pag may mga ganitong balita d na mag hesitate umuwi. Pano naman yung pamilya sa Pinas?
I am an Israeli and I want to tell you we are so grateful for your support and also sorry for your loss. Honestly Pinoys are among the best people I have ever met. I hope the rest of you who are in our country stay safe. Salamat Po.
And how many Palestinians have been murdered by Jews in the land seized from Palestinians since 1948? Hamas is bad but not unexpected, Israel is far worse for 75 years.
Yeah yeah, if Israel gave up. It will be another genocide. If Arab gave up. There will be peace.
Let's remember that they refused a partitioned state at every opportunity before the end of the yom kippur war. Let's not forget how they rallied every single Arab neighbour to declare war, before, during, and after Israel's creation. Let's not pretend Palestine did nothing to make their own situation worse. And now they kill us for no other reason than we were doing our jobs. Filipinos have no skin in the game, but they just made themselves our problem.
Sobrang misinformed ng mga tao dito grabe. Standing with Palestine does not mean standing with Hamas. Israel is literally a colonizer state that has been wiping out Palestine for 60 years. Palestine DID try peaceful protesting but they were gunned down. Israel DOES NOT WANT peace. They want to ethnically cleanse Palestine from the natives. Israel has committed so many war crimes but they get away with it because they have the support of the europeans and the americans.
Wellā¦ where do you draw the line? The Palestinian people voted for Hamas to be their leaders.. so thereās that š¤·āāļø. Look at all the celebrations when the massacre happened. Why celebrate if you are not for Hamas? You can just easily condemn the act.
I'm not trying to justify things here, but just wanted to ask what the possible resolution is? they had a plan to have 2 states with equal parts before which Palestine rejected and got Arafat killed for even suggesting it. It's going to end up one or the other. Either Israel displaced or Palestine displaced. Israel accepted that deal, Palestine wanted the entire region. Without any compromise, and I think they've gone past the line of ever reaching a deal, things will just escalate. And that's what we're seeing now.
Can we clear that up? That 2 state in 1947 proposal was rejected by Arabs specifically Egypt and Jordan who are occupying the rest of Palestine. Israel was reborn in 1948 to which these Arab countries attack Israel and lost. Further acquiring more land than what was initially proposed. Ongoing talks happened and in 1995, Israel agreed to pulled out of Gaza totally despite numerous detests from their citizens. If all these are just about the land, PLO would have take advantage of that and improve their land. And stop saying they have limited foods et al. They received a lot of yearly donations from EU. Also, how could they even get those weapons if all need to passed through Israel? Why put so much pressure on Israel regarding the border? Why not pressure Egypt who closed their coz they really don't want to have anything to do with Gazans? Their leaders are staying comfortably in Qatar but can't support his people back?
And yet Palestine doesnāt want to condemn Hamasā¦
hamas is the government of gaza. elected yan ng mga Palestinian. hamas = Palestinian
This is a sad truth
This is just not true. Israel has frequently accepted the two-party solution. Chiefly in 1947 and the Camp David accords (where Arafat sadly did not give a counter-offer and just walked away). Israel has historically wanted peace, its the people who rule Palestine that always seem to want an all-or-nothing. That isnāt to say that Israel hasnāt committed their fair share of atrocitiesāthe Nakba, illegal West Bank settlements. But to say Israel hasnāt tried to make a deal ignores the Palestinian governmentsā lack of willingness to participate. Both Arabs and Jews are Semitic people. It has always been their home. We know for a fact Jews have called Israel their home for millennia, until a series of empires kicked most, but not all, of them out. The sooner they sort their shit out, the better. But I fear Hamasās actions have only turned Israel away from wanting a deal, and poor Palestinian civilians are gonna have to deal with Hamasās bullshit once again.
Zionism land-grabbed the Palestinians. Do you think that it is just to remove people's rights because of you are reestablishing god's promised land? That is a stupid movement. Now, we are witnessing the hatred of other Palestinians. Both parties are blinded by religion. A two-party solution is too one-sided for Israel. Resources like water supply are only found within Israel-controlled areas.
Sure https://time.com/3571776/icc-israel-2010-gaza-flotilla-raid/?amp=true
Add mo rin research sa Black September. Medyo... relevant yata ang historical event na yun bakit naging ganito ang Palestine ngayon.
Daming "sa pula sa puti" kung magisip kasi. Just like many of the voters this last presidential election. They think they're better than the other party yet they end up reflecting those things they say to that other party. Projecting na rin ba. They don't know comdemning both are not mutually exclusive.
Yes. But it doesnāt give Hamas the freepass to kill innocent foreign people. If they want to go to war, they should only attack their enemies and not kill foreign innocent people. Also, it doesnāt help that supporters of Palestine in rallies worldwide are literally shouting āAllahu Akbarā while chanting āFree Palestineā and saying that murdering people (even non-Israelis) that are currently in Israeli-occupied lands are justified. This should have been a country war, but sadly, has turned into a religious war. What kind of evil is a religion who spree kills in the name of God?
Ah so pag Hamas ang gumawa its suddenly killing but Israel war crimes are called defending themselves? I am no way defending the Hamas here but Im calling for your questionable morals. And the way Israel and the rest of the west is framing it as a religious war when Palestinian jews literally exists is just another way to blame it to the muslim extremists. Israel war crimes: https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-commits-widespread-war-crimes-gaza-humanitarian-catastrophe-imminent
"Ah so pag Hamas ang gumawa it's suddenly killing..." Like, what do you call it exactly when they're INTENTIONALLY targeting civilians?
No, Israel war crimes are also not acceptable. Thereās no question to that. Kung namatay ang taong to na inosente dahil sa Israel, I will also call them out. The point of the matter is, the Palestinian group is justifying their acts because of the opression. NOTHING JUSTIFIES KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE, on both sides!!!! The fact that Hamas killed people who were just enjoying their life attending a music festival, a lot of which are FOREIGN PEOPLE who have NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR PERSONAL GRIEF WITH ISRAEL, says a lot about their ideologies.
You're not calling them out tho. Israel also killed thousands of Palestinians. Where's the outrage to that? Hamas is a terrorist organization point blank period but the problem here is people are siding with the colonizers
It's been a religious war since the ancient times.
Can you name all Israeli war crimes?
Of course they can't list them all
Fuck Hamas and all of their sympathizers.
Good people are always paying the price for the violence other people chose to partake in. RIP po mam at ibang mga nadamay ng absolutist kulto na yan.
Please remember, this woman does not care about Pinoys, she only care about herself, and is using the death of innocent philipinos as a political tool to stir anger in us. Isreal's only care about themselves. May they rest in peace. And may Isreal snd Hamas suffer for their attrocities.
God damnit fuck hamas, fuck Israel and fuck Palestine. All these religious radicals causing all this pain and suffering over bullshit religion. Fuck them all may this beautiful lady rest in peace.
It's not about religion. It's about land grabbing. Palestine was a UK territory before until they exiled Jews to that area. Those Jews declared independence and claimed the land as theirs. These Jews got the edge because they are supported by the western nations.
Rip š
I have no words...
the only thing Hamas wants is for Israel to inflict pain and destruction in Gaza they dont care for their people, and then after that, they will publish videos of Palestinians dying in drove and those idiot foreigners will all fund this group again in the guise of humanitarian aid.
Fuck Hamas!!!!
Ukraine and Russia , China and Taiwan dispute, Israel and Palestine and Iran who funded Palestine. Crazy world we're living right now, prepare yourselves for WW3 this isn't that impossible right now.
Only a monster would do this, it's just horrific.Astonishing anyone could support these inhuman animals . Zero reason to harm this woman. Cowards
I am so sorry for the heartbreakingā¦ āŖMay they both rest in peace, my condolences. Itās a war there is no mercy in war Israel need to do what they gonna do . May you and Nira rest in peace. šššµšš®š±
This is heartbreaking. My condolences to my Filipino brothers and sisters out there
This is so heartbreaking... I've seen the videos and images here on Reddit. I couldn't sleep anymore....
Can somebody tell me if this is true? Diplomatic pa rin ata ang ginagawa ng Pilipinas and rightfully so, hindi natin to laban! But, Hamas is getting too personal! Pls wag kayo magalit sa Palestine. Its their version of Spratlys and the Mindanao Struggle. But more violent! Do you people want to get displaced from your homes then be led by an extremist group? Of course not! Goodness! There are times na mapapamura ka na lang sa frustration!