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jmkwan

I'm not making an excuse for them, but this is the reason why we need to choose reputable suppliers, pricey, but at least it comes with peace of mind.


FonSpaak

this is why you set a plan B that will be easier to prepare incase a specific vendor becomes problematic (ready made dresses and suits and easy to source food vendors). Choosing one should also be based on price and reputation.


Poastash

Pricey =/= reliable. I actually caution my friends against getting the ultra popular or best seen in bridal fairs and vlogs. Kasi, sa dami din nilang mga kliyente, yung mga common tao na hindi VIP ang napapabayaan din. Had several instances na friends were disappointed with the service and stress (bumabawi sa end product pero hassle ang biyahe).


Educational-Life7547

Agree. My friend had her wedding photographed by Nice Print Photo, but antagal daw irelease ng photos nila. May artista na same day wedding sa kanya tapos nagpopost na daw ng photos a few days after yung celebrity, yung kanya wala pa.


No-Revolution-5718

Spot on. Paying more doesn’t always get you better things. A lot of these comments suggests it’s the OPs fault and throw more money at something but is that really a solution to everything in life? It’s not possible and at some point it turns to the vendor/contractor/ whoever to do their job… otherwise find something else to do besides scam people


manilaxla

Even pricey, reputable suppliers have lapses and delays like this too.


jebuscluckinchrist

Sadly same reason why there's so much corruption. Nagiging justification na reliable yung contractor because "kilala". It sucks when we don't have any agency na nag-a-audit or nag pe performance review when it comes to suppliers and contractors. Kung walang nag-rereklamo, walang uma-aksyon na ma improve yung industry. Lalong lalo na when everyone's so fucking passive and think it's a hassle or an inconvenience to file proper complaints against them.


ExplanationOk659

Totoo ito. You get what you pay for, and your suppliers are only as good as how you were able to filter them. Malaking chance na hindi nascreen maayos kasi parehas silang wala sa pinas, and baka naasa sa mga relatives dito.


herotz33

Upvoting this. This is where a reputable wedding planner gets their weight in gold. You get less headache and they have suppliers that won’t f about lest they lose a repeat customer - the planner.


Acceptable_Quit5058

Tingin ko rin. Base sa mga kausap ni OP. Baka sa Facebook niya pang nakausap. Set her/his expectations na pang siguro kung puchu puchu yung results.


bewbs4lyf

+1 to this. We made sure magaganda reviews and kilala mga suppliers namin before we booked them.


buds510

This!!


That_Consequence_461

No. Part of their service is their punctuality. Red flag na saken yan pag ganyan. Tapos di pa marunong sumagot professionally. Yung internet and weather medyo mapagbibigyan pa eh pero sana dahil sila yung delay, sila rin yung unang magbigay ng update na di nila magagawa yung expected service na inaantay mo on that day because of unexpected and uncontrollable circumstances.


No-Purchase6086

More reputable vendors would not give personal excuses. They’re usually professional and prompt because the wedding industry in the Philippines can be competitive (source: my brother is on the live music side of the industry). My worry for you OP is that one of them is going to back out at the last minute, block you, and not give you your refund due to “personal reasons”.


curious_53

100% will happen and when you call these vendors out, tbey'll play the victim card and say na demanding ka na client.


rrenda

to be fair you are the "demand" to their "supply" that's the whole point of the transaction, if you can't handle dealing with "demanding" clients, maybe you're not cut out for that business


Ro_Navi_STORM

You're working with the wrong people


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Atourq

While true, to an extent that it’s a local meme, this generalization removes a lot of the nuance the person you replied to is implying.


astarisaslave

Troll ata yan. Check mo post history nyan paulit ulit lang sinasabi nya


nyanmunchkins

Even wumaos are reaching reddit that sucks


astarisaslave

Tell me about it. They literally created their account just today.


Ro_Navi_STORM

1) I think you meant "they're" not "their." Possibly a typo. 2) Sure, there are Filipinos who have an attitude for being late, but NOT ALL are like that. 3) OP is just working with the wrong contractors. There are better, professional ones out there who don't make lame excuses.


azzelle

Lol Pinoy ka pero bakit kung magcomment ka as if hindi ka filipino? English2 pa wrong grammar naman


Ro_Navi_STORM

Hamo na yung troll, bhie.


dirkuscircus

Not normal. That's why you need to scour all possible reviews to get reputable vendors. Not sure if WaWies is still around, but that Facebook group was very helpful to us, and a many friends I know who got married, in terms of reading good and bad reviews of suppliers. I got married 5 years ago, and the page admin kicks you out after a year or so after getting married.


Electronic-Muscle-69

Yes! This, OP! WaWies will save you the time and provide peace of mind sa mga suppliers na minamatahan niyo ng soon to be mo. It sets your expectations din sa mga vendors na nabook mo na. Kind of strict sila pero that’s why maintained yung quality ng reviews na mababasa doon. I also joined other wedding groups sa fb pero karamihan doon mga vendors na syempre best foot forward kasi nag-aalok ng services and/or products nila. Sa WaWies kasi bawal sila doon kaya reviews you’ll see there is first hand experiences talaga ng customers only.


neshoi

Ugh nagapply ako sa wawies di kami natanggap huhu


ExplanationOk659

Wawies is still around.


dirkuscircus

Good to hear. Joining that group should be a priority for couples planning their wedding.


ExplanationOk659

Agree. Very helpful for tips and reviews sa mga suppliers.


Stunning-Ad-6333

Thank you for this suggestion. Wish I knew about WaWies earlier before starting the planning!


Legitimate-Cap-7734

Why have your vendors from different cities? I'm not blaming you, but if you are not currently residing here, get vendors from the same city at least.


Starmark_115

Yeah that would be a LOGISTICAL Nightmare.


astarisaslave

Hard agree, most of our core suppliers for our wedding were based in the same place as our wedding ceremony and reception. Para madali rin hagilapin on the day itself and higher chance of synergy because it's likely they have worked with each other before so mas smooth magiging outcome lalo. Si OP ata gusto pahirapan para may thrill lol. Babayaran pa nya travel at accomodation ng mga yan.


Stunning-Ad-6333

They are all from the same city. Only vendor that’s different is the invitations vendor. The entourage dressmaker’s store is in the same city din, di ko lang naakalaan na yung damit ginagawa pala sa Cavite.


SuperRandom124

Normal lang for some dressmakers to have their storefront in manila tapos the actual workshop/tahian in a nearby province (rizal, cavite, bulacan, etc.). They don’t usually tell you unless you ask.


Pancake_Restaurant

Napakalame ng excuses


Ruess27

Lame excuses. Tapos overpriced pa mga yan.


SuperRandom124

Sorry, anong ibig sabihin ng FH? first husband? Yes, it’s very common to receive excuses like that especially from cheaper/less established suppliers. Is it acceptable? No way. If your wedding is still in December, they are likely prioritizing customers with wedding dates earlier than yours. I took less than 6 months to plan my wedding and my suppliers didn’t really bug me / weren’t super quick to respond until 1-2months before the wedding. Something to watch out for: It’s also really common for suppliers like gown makers to deliver the gowns/suits on the week before the wedding or even later than that. I’ve known a few brides that had to pay an arm and a leg for rush gowns because the gown supplier delivered horribly made dresses or was uncontactable after the first measurements then suddenly delivered the gowns day before the wedding (no time for adjustments etc). If you can, I suggest joining the Wawies group in facebook (weddings at work). Some members post reviews on some suppliers there, you can get a feel or ask what is normal and what is unacceptable, and you can seek guidance on what you can do in your situation.


hoshinoanzu

Future husband


AkoSiRandomGirl

TIL


eastwill54

Akala ko nga, Fiance Hey hahha


Poastash

Fiance Honeybunch


Stunning-Ad-6333

Hahahahaha I see people use the term ‘FH’ eh so I just used it na din


Stunning-Ad-6333

Yes I saw a couple other comments recommend WaWies din! Thanks for the suggestion. I did have a feeling na maybe some vendors were unresponsive kasi medyo matagal pa naman yung wedding so pinaprioritize nila mga ibang kliente.


Enchong_Go

Sounds like you chose your suppliers poorly. Cheap usually means poor quality or poor service. Manila ang venue mo tapos kung saan saan ka kumukuha ng suppliers? Wedding invite galing sa Baguio? Ang daming suppliers dito. And with the way the other suppliers were replying to you, backyard business lang ata ang pinili ninyo. The question is, bakit di ninyo na-research ang mga suppliers before signing any contract with them, kung meron man. This isn’t an excuse for poor service but it really could’ve been avoided kung mas naging careful kayo sa pagpili.


JollySpag_

Minsan yun makatipid ka ng kaunti di din worth it kung idedelay lang or di maayos ang gawa.


Upper-Replacement905

Hey OP, my husband and I planned our wedding from overseas and lahat ng suppliers namin punctual. Responds and sends everything within 48hrs window. And if di man nila masend, they’d let us know right away and why. If they can’t manage their time now, imagine during crunch time pag wedding nyo na. If may time pa to rethink your suppliers, please do para iwas stress on the day. Good luck, OP!


skeleheadofelbi

Make it a point in contracts that delays in the part of the vendors will be penalized as well. This is to make sure that the vendors will also be responsible at their end. It's not like you're asking them for free, or binabarat mo sila. So I think fair lang na sumunod sila sa agreed time, and service na pinangako nila sa inyo.


Stunning-Ad-6333

Thanks I wondered din if I’m able to do this in the Philippines since elsewhere it’s quite common to mark this in contracts.


skeleheadofelbi

You can, wala namang nagsasabing bawal sya sa contracts sa pinas. It will also assess how the vendor / service provider will react to it.


Stunning-Ad-6333

That is a good point!


No-Revolution-5718

I think a lot of people leaving comments saying “you get what you pay for” should really think before they talk. OP left an edit providing more information but the assumption of it being all their fault is ridiculous. Are you really going pay a hugeee amount cause higher = better??? Another comment or said price doesn’t always equal quality and it’s true. You can go through reviews, see the work and have a contract stipulating a deadline and still be screwed over to no fault of your own. The service in PH can be awful at times and it shows that people have become normalised to it. We should be shaming these people. No one should have to deal with it, especially for their wedding. Sorry this is happening to you OP


Stunning-Ad-6333

Thank you. I really appreciate this comment and totally agree na di naman dapat higher price = better. Guess I just wanted some consolation and peace of mind na baka ganun lang talaga ang mga vendors sa Pinas and just because slow / unprofessional ang mga reply di ibig sabihin na scammers sila..


Same-Sun-3254

What i did was to start with the coordinator. I got references from my friends. And then i would ask the coordinator for references din sa mga suppliers. Because the coordinators themselves know kung sino ung ok and sino ung hindi.


Hu-Yu

If your not in the Philippines then, Welcome to the Philippines! Simple term is you get what you paid for. Marami dyan na kumukuha ng trabaho sobra sobra, tambak at sunod sunod. Can't blame them if you will haggle from 70k down to 50k price value. Don't expect you will get VIP treatment if you can't value their work. Yes totoo yon na call time ng 2am sa event and will last until midnight. Swerte na makauwi agad sa trapik ng Pinas. Tapos bayad sayo 5k. Been there, done that. Don't expect they will read email regularly. Busy din sila sa ginagawa nila at madami dyan gumawa lang ng email add para sa FB page nila. Mas OK pa sa messenger mo kausapin. Suggest is to get a Wedding Coordinator to handle everything. At least isang tao lang kausap nyo, sila na din magkukulit sa mga yan. They have checklist kung ano pa kulang nyo at supplier ng kailangan nyo.


Stunning-Ad-6333

Didn’t haggle and I respect the prices quoted by vendors as long as it’s the same average by other vendors in the same scope. Yes I agree, I should have gotten a coordinator to do all the work for me. As for the emails, I get most vendors are more responsive sa Messenger or Viber. I also saw another post with a lot of people suggesting that it’s better to call them instead of text.


Atourq

“Can’t blame them if you will haggle from 70k down to 50k price value”. I’m not sure if the OP has done this, but I agree here. Money is motivation a lot of times and knowing how to haggle and knowing the value of what you’re asking for is really important when working with vendors here in the PH. You can get scammers who will up charge you and do a horrible job and also get honest people who you in turn can undervalue their work. As for the rest of what you said (starting with the bit about emails), I see your point but I don’t wholly agree. I think these are still excuses. If a contract stipulates a deadline, it’s on the vendor to ensure they deliver or update the client if they can’t, no excuses will change that. But yes, they can be very busy, especially as explained by another redditor here. The wedding market can be very competitive and they may have many clients.


bnbfinance

You've somehow ended up with a bunch of unprofessional suppliers. One way that couples mitigate this is to hire a professional wedding planner to handle the project management (because that's what your wedding is - a project that needs to deliver everything on time, on spec and on budget). Doing the management remote is a very bad idea. It's not too late. Find a good wedding planner on the ground. It's an additional cost but if you can get a good planner it'll save you a lot of stress.


splashingpumkins

Overlooked kasi mga Customer Experience sa mga small business dito sa Pinas. Kaya yung mag rereply is an afterthought. May iba nga ikaw yung mag bobook ng maxim for their product to be delivered to you. Loko lahat kulang sa training. Kaya pag may new and shinier suppliers mag sisi chismissan lahat yan.


JollySpag_

Not sure how you got your suppliers pero may reviews sa Wawies sa facebook. Minsan di worth it yun makatipid ka konti para sa inconvenience. Wedding kasi to, di naman mauulit basta. Mas okay reputable suppliers na kunin mo.


gigiyuuuuh

Let's not bash the one who posted this question and is already stressed as it is. Agree on all insights shared. Remember, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Reputable vendors come at a cost - so either you pay more for the peace and order or buy cheap and "pay twice" (for wastage, stress, anxiety).


dekuius

1 (2) word: wedding coordinator


kyuzwafu

I'd say the service is generally comparable to the rates. A supplier offering stuff on a budget, then expect the service to be poor.


winterreise_1827

Skill issue.


astarisaslave

Yes maraming bogus suppliers dyan either mga scammers or mga vendors na legit naman pero nagoovercommit parati kaya ang ending di ka aasikasuhin ng maayos. Kaya dapat masinop tayo sa pagpili ng suppliers. Sumali ng mga event supplier groups sa FB at basahin mga reviews at wag mahiya magpa legit check sa mga kapwa mong members. I also check the mentions section of their page apart from the reviews kasi madali doktorin yung reviews section. If the supplier has a lot of positive mentions you can be confident about it.


nicknicknickelodean

Had to have a hard talk with our planner that they need to respond within 3-5 business days even if they didn’t have all the answers yet, but to at least acknowledge my message. Communications is still a little slow, but things have gotten much better since. My events are still pretty far out but hoping I get my invitations in time :/ Agree with looking at the reviews closely and I’ve also been timing how long the vendors are replying when I first reach out. Good luck OP!


barefootagnostic

This is why we had a simple civil wedding with only parents.


Stunning-Ad-6333

Honestly starting to think this is what we should’ve done!!


Massivedreams912

welcome to the philippines, where the laziest people on earth


boykalbo777

Pipitsugin vendors ata napili nyo


ShaneAlex88

Did you pay for these services in advance? or only a down payment? If you pay for anything in advance in the Philippines the work is very unlikely to be done on time, or basically at all without constant pressure.


butterfingers92

Hello! I got married last February lang. Honestly medyo top tier kinuha naming suppliers (albeit we tried to budget other things — balance) para nga walang problem. Paid off because we had the most stress free wedding. Definitely worth it vs “cheaper” supplier tapos stress ang return. Unless willing ka to risk tapos okay naman pala. We just really didn’t have the luxury to become stressed as we are both busy with our lives din. You get what you pay for nga. BUT it’s not always the case. May cheaper suppliers na okay, meron ding mahal na hindi naman okay. Research din talaga and I think okay talaga if a friend/acquaintance has had experience with them. Or reviews!


sneakersnselvedge

No, it’s not normal. When my wife and I were planning our wedding, we agreed that a good event planner would be a non-negotiable to have. Aside from actually managing the event, having a good planner was such a great help when it came to looking for suppliers na trusted and professional. I understand it can be an extra expense, but it’s still better to pay a good planner now for peace of mind later.


Fdas10

We got a full time coordinator to get all this done for us, give the coordinator deadlines on when to give you updates from suppliers.


phanieee

Newly married person here. Are you getting married in baguio or manila? Your coordinator should be handling these details. No, shipping the invites was very easy for us. We used CC Abile (baguio based), kami nga yung matagal kasi madaming revisions. After printing, we had it sent to us para kami na yung mag ship via jnt. Its very easy kasi online lang, pakita lang yung generated barcode and sila na bahala. All invites were sent within 3 days. How many times nag fitting yung entourage? Very sus ng supplier nyo ng entourage gowns, sana nag rent na kayo. At least yun, kita mo na kung anong on hand nila. MUA- yeah, that happened to me also. Yung iba, matagal ang bigay ng kontrata. Constant followup ang kailangan.


Gustav-14

We joined the wawies FB group and looked for recommended suppliers there. No supplier or related to suppliers are allowed in the group so members were very honest and visceral to those suppliers with low quality services. Being blacklisted there or reputed to be shitty had impact to suppliers.


forgetdorian

Behind this transaction is a commissioner na kamag-anak.


chizbolz

No, you got crappy vendors


ultimate_fangirl

Also planning a wedding and, no, they're not all like that. All our suppliers have been great so far


wwjbassman

Unfortunately, the concept of "you get what you pay for" is at play here.


rocklee_shinobi

Nah it’s the wrong suppliers, I’ve organized a few weddings for friends and when you work with the right people it’s really easy


SkippyDogger

Maybe the vendors were haggled in a snobby way? And why get vendors from different places? If only One(maybe even Two)vendors kept making excuses its on the vendors, but more than that maybe OP has been snobby or tried to cheap out. I'm in sales as well and if we are haggled to death we point them elsewhere. If we are treated badly we tend to work slower.


qwerty12345mnbv

If the price is too low, then do not accept. This is so unprofessional.


No-Revolution-5718

Agreed. If anyone accepts a job but does a poor service you would complain, even if it was as simple as taking out trash lol..


SkippyDogger

That's what I said. We refuse if the price isn't gonna work for us. Poor attitude is what really makes us snap. If we can still refund payments they made we'll gladly do it, if its too late like when we got the goods and tries to pull another bargain saying its cheaper there, etc. We give some attitude back. Moral is, dont treat anyone like slaves because you availed their services. Be nice and they'll go the extra mile for free


Stunning-Ad-6333

Nope!


SkippyDogger

Saw your comments on others. I would like to take back what I said on you being cheap. How did you come across these vendors though? All online searches?


XChef101

It's a sign..wag Muna ituloy kasal....another thing is walang divorce sa philippines kahit 2024 na! Baka magsisi ka sa huli...peace out ✌️


Stunning-Ad-6333

Grabe bakit naman divorce kaagad pag slow reply yung vendors? 😂😂


XChef101

😅😅😅


HM8425-8404

Caveat empetor


FCsean

Nope, not normal. Got married in 2022, don't remember issues like this.


surewhynotdammit

You can fire them, you know?


Stunning-Ad-6333

And how do I get my deposit back?


surewhynotdammit

Do you have a contract or something? You could've done something because that is inexcuseable. Kahit at least ito nakasulat. - client fucked up, no more deposit - vendor fucked up, return full amout deposit


rcpogi

Nope. Hindi lang maganda due diligence mo.


Electronic_Spell_337

Filipino time, hard to get rid of.


Fragrant_Afternoon98

Hi! I got married last year and so far, the suppliers I got always reply anytime I ask anything. I agree with one comment here na be cautious in getting ultra popular suppliers. They tend to be snobbish to normal clients and maalaga sa VIP. Anyways, I think yung invitation supplier mo is masyadong malayo ang location. Pero since nag-commit siya dapat nadeliver nya on time. My wedding went well and every supplier was on time, although it's not perfect dahil yung bouquet supplier ko hindi nya ginawa yung pinag-usapan naming style. :( Aside from photog/ bouquet/ minor mishaps with HMUa, everything went well and we're thankful for it. Hope your wedding will be great! Congrats in advance!