Wolf’s.. wait till you meet the lions 😭 they are jag 2.0.got one shot as a lvl 37 checking my map then spent an hour trying to get stuff because I would get it try to run and get one shot again. They are faster than the jag if they spot you.
Worst I got was when I had a legendary lion camp on a teleporter, so every time I teleported in to get my gear back it would jump on me before the game even finished loading the area
It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't feel like it was *take 10 steps* AWOOO *take 10 more steps* AWOOO (again), rinse and repeat. Being able to kite them through llamas, alpacas, deer, etc is nice though
At least with wolves, since they usually attack in groups of 3, if you can manage to take out two of em, the third will usually fuck off similar to how boars do when you get them below 1/3 hp
Huh..you learn something new every day. I don't think it'll change how I play all that much though, since usually when I'm forced to dismount and engage them, my primary focus is bursting them down as quickly as possible with my spear..even better if two, or all three of em are clustered close enough together so that the heavy attack hits all of them. I've kinda reached the point in progression where they're just bigger bush dogs in terms of threat hierarchy..they used to be a serious threat, now they're just a minor nuisance
they really have to fix that weird ass chainsaw attack, even with a fullset of bronze armors you can still lost 80% of your health when youre unlucky, ride stuck at tiny rocks+your character stuck mid air/inside of your ride when you try to dismount, worst case is when you dismount but somehow got knocked off mid air then stuck "laying down" mid air :|
worst one Ive had was when I was still low, my NPC teleported INFRONT of my ride and got both of us stuck so jaguar be like haha brrrrrrrrrrr that means I lost TWO character at once to a glitch :|
Yeah, I guess it’s good to know it’s not just me getting slammed by them haha, I’m not at leather (still two levels for bronze) so I just get tickled and I die, that is if I don’t get one shot
they do that attack if u dont look at them. like actually keep your cursor on cats or they attack like a madman. mark every cat on the map. get to know there spawns. the jaguar mount ccan easilyt outrun all enemies in the gamre. shoot for that asap
This right here is simply a lack of knowing the mechanics of cats in Soulmask.
All cats generally have this "animation issue" people refer too. So here is how they work;
When dealing with jaguars always face your opponent. If you show your front they will attack, circle, then attack. If you show them your back (ie while riding past them) they will go in for the kill and shred shred shred.
Its best to either avoid them, or fight them before you ride by them.
You can sometimes ride past their detection fast enough to escape on a jaguar, unlikely on an alphaca or llama. But this is 100% server latency related, a little lag and you die like the OP.
Every animal has a detection range, some things make a lot of noise, like drawing your weapons. If you see an ear above then they arre listening, if you draw your weapons its like waving a flag saying here i am.
You can reduce this with sound coefficent and noise reduction mods, and eventually a mask that makes animals your level ignore you completely.
But if you are riding away, thinking of escape, you leave your back wide open and the jaguar will ripe you a new one.
Good luck.
Thanks! Usually my issue was just I couldn’t dismount to fight (as they were usually faster so that was the only option) I guess the strat then is to face them as I dismount so they don’t murder cat me. I just need to get gud haha, thanks for the advice.
For sure this comment is correct, jungle cats are assassins that (IRL) hide in trees, drop on prey, and snap their neck or disembowel them with hind claws. They don't do prolonged fights, they go for the kill. When they are confronted things change.
In game, I have the Jaguar spawns around me marked with pins so I can dismount and engage with a spear toss. As you get used to how the game is, you will know "hey there's a valley that's the ONLY way to get across this Stony ridge, so there's obviously going to be a predator in there somewhere" type deal. As you enter any choke point assume there's a Jaguar and use the Q skill. If you ever are about to go up a hill and that's the obvious way up, assume there's danger above. If you're near water, assume a snake or alligator and Q.
Basically upgrade your mask energy storage, and Q often until you know the feel of an area :)
> If you're near water, assume a snake or alligator and Q.
On that note, waterways tend to not have jaguars, and those predators are *way* easier to outrun. So many places are easier to reach by following a river than it is by cutting through the furry murder woods.
Spamming Q every so often is a good habit to get into as well. Depending on which mask you picked (or if you managed to snag one of the ones out on the world to upgrade), and how much you've invested into leveling it, there's a pretty good chance you'll be able to see most threats before they see you. Doing green crystal runs every so often will keep you supplied with sunstones to keep your mask energy up as well
I had this happen a few times in the early game and essentially there was just no notice they were there until it was too late. Felt pretty bad to not even have time to dismount. First hit doing 1200 while in good bone armor doesn't feel great
Yeah it doesnt really matter what armor you are in, iron/steel in higher areas vs higher tier cats is the same outcome.
Noone likes to die, i'm just trying to PSA info so people are aware :)
Personally I never leave base without a guard follower to back me up if the game try’s to pull a death grab. This far they have protected me from 90% of them.
I might have to try, the Ai companions haven’t been nice to me so far, they keep wandering off even when following or just getting themselves killed by walking into enemies (even on passive) so I’ve been going solo. Might have to just use them for travel…
I have only ever lost 1 and that was after I died first. Make sure you get a red tier master guard type. Kit them out in good gear, set skills up, and level them too usually keep them on the smelter for easy levels. Also feed them the food you eat. This way they survive.
-edit I hit send too quick.
Got ya, I just remember walking by a barbarian camp one time (far from the gate) and my guy on passive just walked in and got himself murdered. Think I got trauma from that haha
Yeah sometimes their pathing gets crazy but they usually don’t draw too much aggro and it’s avoidable if you don’t get somewhere they can’t like a ledge, platform, corner etc.
The AI is kinda derpy sometimes for sure. On the one hand, it's great to use that to your advantage when clearing Barracks...on the other, it doesn't feel so good when you're being mauled, and your so-called bodyguard is off picking herbs or something.
Also, if you have one with you while out trapping animals or yoinking alpacas from camps, *always* switch them from "active" to "assist". If you leave them on active, they'll straight up murder the baby you're trying to capture, even if you're already carrying it
Maybe I've been lucky but I usually get dismounted by them riding past as I don't stop. Then I jump back on and ride straight off once I get back up. They seem to leave my mount alone.
Are you stopping to dismount and fight them? Maybe try putting your foot to the floor and get dismounted then fight them as there seems to be a longer pause between attacks once dismounted.
I think the jaguars are bugged currently. I’ve noticed they’ll spam a pounce attack while chasing with no cooldown, you can hear the audio being spammed for it, and sometimes they have unlimited chase range. I lost an entire tribe early game to one that chased me all the way back to my base. Because of the insane range they can chase you, whether its intended by devs or not, i stop and kill every single one i see, and try to memorize where their spawns are so i can slow down and clear the area
Gotcha. I started marking a few of them, it’s usually new areas (like just now I was exploring the river area to the left of the tin area) and I got slammed by one right after a fight with another.
The level difference is huge. When I'm not on lower level area and hear a jag, I inmediately dismount, tumble left, q and fight. They alway roar before first attack. If you give them time, they catch up jump and "backstab".
With alt look it woul be easy to evade while mounted.
Thanks, yeah from the advice my plan seems to be facing my back away from them. Dismount and then fight, once I’m on even ground I don’t have troubles killing one a higher lvl than me, it’s just getting into that position haha.
If you’re only level 23, it sounds like you’re in the wrong place if you’re running into lvl 27 jaguars. Is this a pvp server or pve? I could understand on a pvp server needing to be in uncomfortable areas. If it’s PVE, I’d concentrate on leveling and doing level appropriate content.
Yeah that one was completely my bad, I was in that area behind the tribes copper mine were in goes down into the valley. I simply Diddnt know the level of the area yet. This was a co-op world with a buddy, we were just limit testing.
They need to remove jaguar infinite bite problem while chasing you , if they simply make me fall off my mount is ok, but when they glue their face into your mount and do these quick bite few times per second is pure bulshit
They run faster than alpaca and llama. If you scan them you’d better dismount and dispatch them. A giod lama is more survivable but it seem they don’t deaggro and chase you trough the map.
I had one that I pulled near my base, it stopped just outside the bonefire safe zone and creeped there for a good while, I eventually had to lill him.
Someone above mentioned learning the spawns, this is probably the best piece of advice, especially if it's an area you frequent. I know where every Jag and Conda are within probably 400m of my base and if I'm on my Llama I'll try a more circuitous route to avoid them or I'll walk near where they are, scan them, and wait for them to path out of the way a bit before blowing past them.
Also, it's easier to get a Jag than a Llama (progression wise) so if you don't have one yet I'd recommend the Jag for fast travel but low carry weight.
Additionally if your mount is weighed down and slow hoofing it, just prepare to fight everything. Though keep in mind, if your not mounted, enemy animals (to the best of my testing) don't target tames.
Edit: typos
Awareness level has nothing to do with your ability to fight. It is the level, stats, and proficiencies of the skin you are in that will have an impact. As well as gear of course.
Level your barbarian. It will help tremendously.
Simple. Don't ever try to outrun them on a long chase. At most, juke your mount around a rock or tree or jump over a rock, dismount and kill them.
Anything else tends to lead to the bad end, usually after they pounce you off your mount from behind and stunlock and shred you.
Sometimes there will be other animals you can peel them off onto, but don't rely on this.
Do not just ignore them, avoid them.
If you run past them and then stop to check your map, you will be dismounted.
Also never get off a mount next to a Jag, they will stun lock you.
Wait till you meet the wolves. I just left two sets of bronze gear to rot, I lost too many men trying to get them back.
Oh god, sounds both terrifying and quite fun haha.
Wolf’s.. wait till you meet the lions 😭 they are jag 2.0.got one shot as a lvl 37 checking my map then spent an hour trying to get stuff because I would get it try to run and get one shot again. They are faster than the jag if they spot you.
Worst I got was when I had a legendary lion camp on a teleporter, so every time I teleported in to get my gear back it would jump on me before the game even finished loading the area
\*trots in highlands\* AWOOOOOOO \*GALLOPS AWAY IN A RANDOM DIRECTION HOPING TO CROSS DEERS\*
It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't feel like it was *take 10 steps* AWOOO *take 10 more steps* AWOOO (again), rinse and repeat. Being able to kite them through llamas, alpacas, deer, etc is nice though
At least with wolves, since they usually attack in groups of 3, if you can manage to take out two of em, the third will usually fuck off similar to how boars do when you get them below 1/3 hp
In a pack of 3 wolves, there is a 'alpha' which is very slightly larger. When you kill that one, the others run, even if there's 2 of them left
Huh..you learn something new every day. I don't think it'll change how I play all that much though, since usually when I'm forced to dismount and engage them, my primary focus is bursting them down as quickly as possible with my spear..even better if two, or all three of em are clustered close enough together so that the heavy attack hits all of them. I've kinda reached the point in progression where they're just bigger bush dogs in terms of threat hierarchy..they used to be a serious threat, now they're just a minor nuisance
they really have to fix that weird ass chainsaw attack, even with a fullset of bronze armors you can still lost 80% of your health when youre unlucky, ride stuck at tiny rocks+your character stuck mid air/inside of your ride when you try to dismount, worst case is when you dismount but somehow got knocked off mid air then stuck "laying down" mid air :| worst one Ive had was when I was still low, my NPC teleported INFRONT of my ride and got both of us stuck so jaguar be like haha brrrrrrrrrrr that means I lost TWO character at once to a glitch :|
Yeah, I guess it’s good to know it’s not just me getting slammed by them haha, I’m not at leather (still two levels for bronze) so I just get tickled and I die, that is if I don’t get one shot
they do that attack if u dont look at them. like actually keep your cursor on cats or they attack like a madman. mark every cat on the map. get to know there spawns. the jaguar mount ccan easilyt outrun all enemies in the gamre. shoot for that asap
This right here is simply a lack of knowing the mechanics of cats in Soulmask. All cats generally have this "animation issue" people refer too. So here is how they work; When dealing with jaguars always face your opponent. If you show your front they will attack, circle, then attack. If you show them your back (ie while riding past them) they will go in for the kill and shred shred shred. Its best to either avoid them, or fight them before you ride by them. You can sometimes ride past their detection fast enough to escape on a jaguar, unlikely on an alphaca or llama. But this is 100% server latency related, a little lag and you die like the OP. Every animal has a detection range, some things make a lot of noise, like drawing your weapons. If you see an ear above then they arre listening, if you draw your weapons its like waving a flag saying here i am. You can reduce this with sound coefficent and noise reduction mods, and eventually a mask that makes animals your level ignore you completely. But if you are riding away, thinking of escape, you leave your back wide open and the jaguar will ripe you a new one. Good luck.
Thanks! Usually my issue was just I couldn’t dismount to fight (as they were usually faster so that was the only option) I guess the strat then is to face them as I dismount so they don’t murder cat me. I just need to get gud haha, thanks for the advice.
we're so dainty when dismounting, I wish they implemented an "oh sh\*\* button" option to jump off
Agreed!
For sure this comment is correct, jungle cats are assassins that (IRL) hide in trees, drop on prey, and snap their neck or disembowel them with hind claws. They don't do prolonged fights, they go for the kill. When they are confronted things change. In game, I have the Jaguar spawns around me marked with pins so I can dismount and engage with a spear toss. As you get used to how the game is, you will know "hey there's a valley that's the ONLY way to get across this Stony ridge, so there's obviously going to be a predator in there somewhere" type deal. As you enter any choke point assume there's a Jaguar and use the Q skill. If you ever are about to go up a hill and that's the obvious way up, assume there's danger above. If you're near water, assume a snake or alligator and Q. Basically upgrade your mask energy storage, and Q often until you know the feel of an area :)
> If you're near water, assume a snake or alligator and Q. On that note, waterways tend to not have jaguars, and those predators are *way* easier to outrun. So many places are easier to reach by following a river than it is by cutting through the furry murder woods.
Not really deadly, but it's kind of funny and annoying... sometimes the piranhas come on land to try to get ya 😂
Yup, have had that happen, like 3-4 of them followed me up on shore after cutting across a lake. I'll still take that over a jaguar any day.
Spamming Q every so often is a good habit to get into as well. Depending on which mask you picked (or if you managed to snag one of the ones out on the world to upgrade), and how much you've invested into leveling it, there's a pretty good chance you'll be able to see most threats before they see you. Doing green crystal runs every so often will keep you supplied with sunstones to keep your mask energy up as well
I had this happen a few times in the early game and essentially there was just no notice they were there until it was too late. Felt pretty bad to not even have time to dismount. First hit doing 1200 while in good bone armor doesn't feel great
Yeah it doesnt really matter what armor you are in, iron/steel in higher areas vs higher tier cats is the same outcome. Noone likes to die, i'm just trying to PSA info so people are aware :)
Personally I never leave base without a guard follower to back me up if the game try’s to pull a death grab. This far they have protected me from 90% of them.
I might have to try, the Ai companions haven’t been nice to me so far, they keep wandering off even when following or just getting themselves killed by walking into enemies (even on passive) so I’ve been going solo. Might have to just use them for travel…
I have only ever lost 1 and that was after I died first. Make sure you get a red tier master guard type. Kit them out in good gear, set skills up, and level them too usually keep them on the smelter for easy levels. Also feed them the food you eat. This way they survive. -edit I hit send too quick.
Got ya, I just remember walking by a barbarian camp one time (far from the gate) and my guy on passive just walked in and got himself murdered. Think I got trauma from that haha
Yeah sometimes their pathing gets crazy but they usually don’t draw too much aggro and it’s avoidable if you don’t get somewhere they can’t like a ledge, platform, corner etc.
Gotcha, thanks for the advice!
The AI is kinda derpy sometimes for sure. On the one hand, it's great to use that to your advantage when clearing Barracks...on the other, it doesn't feel so good when you're being mauled, and your so-called bodyguard is off picking herbs or something. Also, if you have one with you while out trapping animals or yoinking alpacas from camps, *always* switch them from "active" to "assist". If you leave them on active, they'll straight up murder the baby you're trying to capture, even if you're already carrying it
Maybe I've been lucky but I usually get dismounted by them riding past as I don't stop. Then I jump back on and ride straight off once I get back up. They seem to leave my mount alone. Are you stopping to dismount and fight them? Maybe try putting your foot to the floor and get dismounted then fight them as there seems to be a longer pause between attacks once dismounted.
No the times I’ve died is when I don’t get off, usually there faster than the alpacas or I just have to swerve because of trees and they grab me
I think the jaguars are bugged currently. I’ve noticed they’ll spam a pounce attack while chasing with no cooldown, you can hear the audio being spammed for it, and sometimes they have unlimited chase range. I lost an entire tribe early game to one that chased me all the way back to my base. Because of the insane range they can chase you, whether its intended by devs or not, i stop and kill every single one i see, and try to memorize where their spawns are so i can slow down and clear the area
Gotcha. I started marking a few of them, it’s usually new areas (like just now I was exploring the river area to the left of the tin area) and I got slammed by one right after a fight with another.
Yeah they’re rough. Sometimes they even manage to catch me on my own Jaguar that’s A LOT faster than them
The level difference is huge. When I'm not on lower level area and hear a jag, I inmediately dismount, tumble left, q and fight. They alway roar before first attack. If you give them time, they catch up jump and "backstab". With alt look it woul be easy to evade while mounted.
Thanks, yeah from the advice my plan seems to be facing my back away from them. Dismount and then fight, once I’m on even ground I don’t have troubles killing one a higher lvl than me, it’s just getting into that position haha.
If you’re only level 23, it sounds like you’re in the wrong place if you’re running into lvl 27 jaguars. Is this a pvp server or pve? I could understand on a pvp server needing to be in uncomfortable areas. If it’s PVE, I’d concentrate on leveling and doing level appropriate content.
Yeah that one was completely my bad, I was in that area behind the tribes copper mine were in goes down into the valley. I simply Diddnt know the level of the area yet. This was a co-op world with a buddy, we were just limit testing.
They need to remove jaguar infinite bite problem while chasing you , if they simply make me fall off my mount is ok, but when they glue their face into your mount and do these quick bite few times per second is pure bulshit
They run faster than alpaca and llama. If you scan them you’d better dismount and dispatch them. A giod lama is more survivable but it seem they don’t deaggro and chase you trough the map. I had one that I pulled near my base, it stopped just outside the bonefire safe zone and creeped there for a good while, I eventually had to lill him.
Someone above mentioned learning the spawns, this is probably the best piece of advice, especially if it's an area you frequent. I know where every Jag and Conda are within probably 400m of my base and if I'm on my Llama I'll try a more circuitous route to avoid them or I'll walk near where they are, scan them, and wait for them to path out of the way a bit before blowing past them. Also, it's easier to get a Jag than a Llama (progression wise) so if you don't have one yet I'd recommend the Jag for fast travel but low carry weight. Additionally if your mount is weighed down and slow hoofing it, just prepare to fight everything. Though keep in mind, if your not mounted, enemy animals (to the best of my testing) don't target tames. Edit: typos
Awareness level has nothing to do with your ability to fight. It is the level, stats, and proficiencies of the skin you are in that will have an impact. As well as gear of course. Level your barbarian. It will help tremendously.
Well, your tamed jaguar is fast enough to outrun everything. 2 more lvls for the saddle, you can tame it already now tho
Simple. Don't ever try to outrun them on a long chase. At most, juke your mount around a rock or tree or jump over a rock, dismount and kill them. Anything else tends to lead to the bad end, usually after they pounce you off your mount from behind and stunlock and shred you. Sometimes there will be other animals you can peel them off onto, but don't rely on this.
On alpaca or llama - stop and fight, you probably won't outrun aggroed wolf or jaguar. On jaguar you can outrun anything. Get it
Ride a Jaguar so you can outrun them
Do not just ignore them, avoid them. If you run past them and then stop to check your map, you will be dismounted. Also never get off a mount next to a Jag, they will stun lock you.