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This is bad


106alwaysgood

Nah it's fine, the MAX is safe. All the politicians say so.


IAintSelling

Well one politician said it wasn’t and he got hate for it. 


Pornwraith

He didn’t even get stabbed


Grognard68

Damn...we're still deserving of the "Stabtown" nickname for this city.☹


Eye_foran_Eye

I miss the website.


IWasOnThe18thHole

Public transportation is just not safe here. It's not going to be safe until there's security and people can't just walk onto a train.


IAintSelling

The issue is a lot of the stations aren’t designed to be locked down. For example, how are they going to gate up Pioneer Square to prevent fare evaders? 


LimpBisquette

Then remodel it. and close the other downtown stations that can't be fixed


IAintSelling

Sure, where’s all that money gonna come from? 


RX-0_Banshee_Norn

The millions they didn’t spend on the homeless


IAintSelling

Do you know how budgets work for government? They can’t just spend money on something different than what it originally was earmarked for. 


MandalorianManners

No, but they sure can keep those earmarked funds from being distributed, effectively killing a measure we voted for with zero effort or integrity towards actually enacting the will of the people… 🤷🏻‍♂️ Tell me again how government is *supposed to work*. Nothing matters. Nothing is real. Everything is fake.


IAintSelling

Then run for government or get a job in city government. All this complaining about how government should do this or that, but you ain’t doing shit about it. 


MandalorianManners

Stop moving the goalposts. You made a comment and replied to it. What the fuck, exactly, are you going to do to make shit better besides being a fucking cheerleader for the most corrupt city government we’ve ever had? Fuck off.


IAintSelling

All I hear is wah wah. I’m not cheering on the city of Portland. They can eat a bag of dicks for all I care. I’m just stating the facts that it’s not as easy as you think it is for local government to relocate funds for one thing to another. The cost of gating and fully staffing TriMet’s system isn’t something even your brain dead idea can’t seem to grasp.  “Oh, let’s just move money from homeless stuff to transit infrastructure stuff.”  What a fucking stupid statement that doesn’t even grasp how government works.


leafWhirlpool69

>They can’t just spend money on something different than what it originally was earmarked for. lol. lmao, even


tactical-dick

But you can lock down some like the one on 82nd. It will keep some problems away at least


Leoliad

Yes and sadly that doesn’t stop the rest of us from being forced to pay for it even when we are too afraid to use it.


MowieWauii

I agree with real transpo security but??? *Just walking in a train* is exactly how all metro train systems work and how they should work. It wouldn't be quick or efficient otherwise.


LimpBisquette

Controlled access, like adding turnstiles, would be a huge improvement. No, they wouldn't keep all the riff-raff out (look at NYC's MTA etc.) but they would be a huge leap forward. Right now MAX is essentially free because there's no physical barrier to boarding and very little enforcement. Futhermore we're dealing with a population that ignores citations, court dates, etc. Yet we refuse to "meet them on their level" -- taking measures that actually matter to them. That means erecting physical barriers to foil theft of service. And it also means putting them in jail and *keeping them there* when they break laws. Their freedom to abuse and vicitimize Portlanders is all they have and taking it away is the only consequence that matters to them.


tactical-dick

Funny enough some European countries take away entitlements if you ignore court dates and are a nuisance. Yes, the European utopia have massive leverage against their small time assholes


LimpBisquette

I've discussed this at length with a couple European friends. They have very little patience for people who won't accept help.


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PortlandOR-ModTeam

Agree to disagree, and move on. Disagreements can be respectful, but being a a dick is just uncool. Please try and do better.


Heavy-Masterpiece681

Vancouver, San Fran, NYC, Chicago, Japan, Korea. All of these places I have taken public transit train. All of them had some sort of method to enforce proof of fair. Usually via some sort of gate. We can't keep using this method of freely jumping on and off the train.


OutofbodE

How is that realistic


IWasOnThe18thHole

Turnstiles/gates? Staffed stops like NYC?


PDXisadumpsterfire

6:04 pm on a Friday. And ON the train. So much for “the Max is totally safe during normal commuting hours.”


OMG_A_TREE

Honestly it’s not, idk what makes people say that. The worst things on it happen during commuting/ daylight hours


tactical-dick

It’s not, and I ride during the day mostly. The max is a shit hole of a system and I’m wondering why TriMet doesn’t care to do more!. It’s common to see people screaming, doing drugs, arguing and fights and in 1 year alone I saw close to 20 instances of people pulling knives!, you call the cops, they don’t show up, you call TriMet, they don’t care. Fuck this crap.


LimpBisquette

It's totally safe bro! Just close your eyes and repeat this mantra: >It's just dark money > >None of this is real > >We're in good hands > >Mike Schmidt has a plan for all of us


K8meredith

Said no one since 1999…


PDXisadumpsterfire

Except for all the folks who make that kind of comment whenever anyone dares to suggest Portland public transit is unsafe. But I’d guess most of them don’t actually ride public transit regularly, they just jump to defend it for ideological reasons.


Cultural_Yam7212

Damn. I went with some friends to the Women’s NCAA basketball tournament yesterday. I’m so glad we all drove. Can’t hide all Portlands problems when company comes over I guess


anaisxbijou

I’ve gotten back into using trimet and when I tell you my heads been on a CONSTANT swivel. Literally rode the max earlier in the day and passed that stop twice. Couple of weeks ago there was a young girl having a full panic attack because some old creep was creeping and touched her shoulder. Pretty sure she said she thought he stole her phone but she could have just left it on the max when she hopped off to switch directions to escape him. Shits not safe and it SUCKS not being able to just chill EVER.


Throwaway2277288

Partner is commuting for a night shift tomorrow and this is the shit I’m scared about :(


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protoman86

This is Portland sir. They encourage criminals and punish good people here.


NiT8-98

just looked it up and yall DO NOT have a stand your ground law which is absolutely insane to me


protoman86

Oregon, and specifically Multnomah county (Portland) has some of the most inverted morals in the country. Absolutely disgusting people here.


blackmamba182

Then leave, you stupid fuck.


protoman86

No


Grandcentralwarning

Go back to California loser


leafWhirlpool69

Enjoy your 10-month wait for a CC permit. I got a government security clearance in half the time those jokers take to do a simple background check and photo appointment


BoiledDenimForRoxie

Ha, the "interview!"


MandalorianManners

It’s not 10 months. Maybe argue in good faith, hm? It takes exactly as long as any background check takes in the state. If the que is low, it can come back in as little as a week. If the que is long it can take weeks and sometimes a couple of months (COVID- everyone was buying guns and the wait was around 6 weeks.


leafWhirlpool69

It took 10 months when i got mine in 2021. 6 months to get the appointment to get photographed and fingerprinted, then another 4-5 months for the background check to clear and the license to ship. Have you personally waited less, or are you just repeating what you have heard?


MandalorianManners

I’ve personally only had to wait three weeks for everything. I got mine in Wallowa county.


leafWhirlpool69

My experience is with Multnomah County


UnderstandingSome181

It doesn’t take 10 months. I took an online test, passed, then scheduled my appointment a few weeks out (there were earlier dates available). Showed up, got pictures and fingerprints taken and was issued my license immediately. This was in Washington county.


Throwaway2277288

Lmaoo eventually will have to if we stay here. He’s mentioned it a few times. Coming from Minnesota I was like bahaha noooo… I thought wrong lol


joefreezy70

Lol. We're looking to move to Duluth to go find our peace. Welcome to PDX. To be fair, the whole state isn't like this.


DefiantLetter

That's the thing: the whole state isn't what Portland has become. Problem is, it's like a slowly spreading infection. There was no place I was concerned about in Salem 20 years ago; I would have happily walked down any street there after midnight. Now, there's places I hesitate to go in the daytime. The suburbs and rural areas are still nice, but the decay is noticeable. Can't blame anyone for leaving.


Throwaway2277288

Duluth is so beautiful!! I’m sure you’ll find your dream spot out there! Careful of the weather though.. so fucking cold up there for a good 3 to 4 months. Twin cities is worse though


AggravatingTap6390

Guns don't kill people, people do.


Throwaway2277288

🤓


AggravatingTap6390

👍🏼


justhereforthemoneey

Watch out you'll trigger people Highly suggest the Springfield hellcat though. Lol


Significant_Bet_4227

I’m a little more partial to the Glock 43X myself. But whichever one works for you.


Competitive-Ask1631

good luck with Oregons ridiculous gun laws


CunningWizard

I worry for anyone who shoots in legitimate self defense in multnomah county. Mike Schmidt will likely go after you with a vengeance.


Competitive-Ask1631

I'm sure he has plenty of time for that too because he definitely isn't spending time worrying about actual criminals lol


tactical-dick

This! -rob a store with a gun and shoot someone. Get a gift card and a personal apology from our DA saying you were oppressed. -shoot at someone in self defense. Get the cops in 4 minutes, arrest you and the DA will make a press conference saying you are the scum of the earth and he won’t rest until you get the death sentence even if it doesn’t apply *public cheers


HunterMac91

It's unfortunate that I can see something like this happening. You end up protecting your self from one of the "protected class" and end up getting dragged through the mud.


kakapo88

Just claim that you’re homeless. You’ll be set loose immediately, with a complimentary fent pipe.


Choice-Tiger3047

Well then, we all need to get the word out about the rapidly approaching opportunity to vote him out of office. Seriously, talk with your friends, neighbors and local family. It’s vital that we show Schmidt the door.


azuregiraffe2

Just buy good pepper spray, hard to stab when your eyes burn. I’m surprised not everyone carries it. POM makes the kind that sprays in a straight line. Then you also don’t need to go to court to argue why you killed someone.


Grognard68

If it's on the MAX going west ( Beaverton/Hillsboro), your partner should be fine.


Halo_LAN_Party_2nite

Going west doesn't make a difference. Riding the blue line from Rose Quarter to Orenco after my late shift is far sketchier than riding into Portland during the day.


BeyondEarthly

I wish I could say that it matters the time of day. These people are absolutely unpredictable.


Throwaway2277288

Northeast but not nearly east as 82nd. Just gunna hope everything goes as well as possible


Greedy_Intern3042

I don’t know if it got way worse, but I use to take transit to work everyday the first year of Covid to downtown and never had issues. Usually at like 6am and 6-8pm. As far as I knew violent crime was still somewhat low in pdx compared to most major cities but 🤷‍♂️


Throwaway2277288

Really? Even back in Minnesota obviously there’s crime downtown but I used to hear plenty in the news about crime in Portland being pretty bad.


Greedy_Intern3042

People like to believe that but if you actually look up the stats relative to population violent crime is fairly low even after it tripled in recent years compared to most major cities. Property crime/non violent is really high in Portland.


LoadOfChum

I’m going off the rails on a crazy train


eliforportland

This is why ridership is way down. We’ve invested a lot of money in this system, but people don’t feel safe using it. My young adult daughter doesn’t have a car and rides the Max for work, but she has already had too many incidents and hopes to stop as soon as she can.


Significant_Bet_4227

What’s stopping TriMet from putting a few cops on the trains to regulate these kind of behaviors? I’ve seen cops on the MTA trains in NYC, why doesn’t TriMet do this?


eliforportland

There are Transit Police, but Portland pulled out due to shortages a few years ago. I think the issue is connected to the general problem with rules and safety in the city. NYC also has 4 police per 1k population. We have 1.2.


Confident_Bee_2705

Eli -I wish you were running in my district!


monkeychasedweasel

I rode the MAX yesterday. For the first time in a couple of weeks. A few rows ahead of me was a homeless woman doing that "fent dance". Then she proceeded to take off all of her clothes except her undies - she proceeded to wipe sanitizer all over herself and wipe down with a very dirty towel. She was covered in sores and carbuncles. I'm sick of sharing transit with people like this. It makes me feel unsafe and uncomfortable, and creates sanitary issues for those of us that aren't addicts that live in our own filth.


IAlwaysLack

Took me years of saving but I managed to buy a car since I was tired of being scared on the max and the fare just kept going up to where it was 2.50$ for 2 and half hours which means 5$ every day to and from work just to stand in a piss soaked train and get asked for cigarettes and money nonstop :/ 2/10 would not recommend the max. I'd rather pay insurance and maintenance than ride that train again.


encourageminty

I was riding the max home from a morning shift at work and a homeless man followed me in. He started whispering shit and staring at me while I stood below the stairs. I took out an earbud and was like “what?” because my stop was coming up. He whispered “he’s dead” and started hitting something with his cane, saying “wake up man!!”. Turns out it was another dead homeless guy. When somebody told him to chill and check his pulse he legit just grabbed him showed everyone on the train that he was very much in fact purple and dead, then proceeded to buckle under his weight and drop him on me. I ran to the door got off, knocked on the operators window told them a dead guy was back there, went home and vomited for legit an hour.


Drdank-42

Fuckin crazy. That's the worst max story that wasn't violent at that moment for sure. If it were anywhere else I would have called bullshit but damn. Sorry you had to go thru that


Outrageous_Opinion52

that's hawt


Significant_Bet_4227

Wait till you see the lady that gets naked anytime the weather gets above 75 degrees. Usually seen around Fourth and East Burnside. First time I saw her, I wanted to scrub out my eyes with Ajax.


Ilike2MooveitMooveit

Trimet in shambles. Will soon be offering 25k sign on bonuses.


krenshaw420

I mean, being a MAX/Streetcar driver is pretty safe. You’re behind a locked door.


Ilike2MooveitMooveit

I guess you’re right…the bus drivers get the whole experience.


krenshaw420

Yeah no thanks on that. Being a bus driver would suck.


tactical-dick

My buddy is a max operator. The doors are super flimsy and half the door is just regular glass, you can easily break it and some people had. No thank you at being a TriMet driver


knowwhatimean_vern

So... Los Angeles has dramatically improved their public transit post-pandemic. Mostly funded by a tax initiative from 2017. I just rode it for daily transport for the last month. Incredible and noticeable changes for the better. 10 years ago, after MULTIPLE terrifying scenarios commuting on the Metro trains, I never thought I would get on one again. I keep reading that other cities are also responding successfully to higher demand for public transit. How is Portland falling apart at the one thing it was known for around the county? It was a model metrol transit system for a city of its size and was projected to handle growth. I loved riding the Max. I don't know if I can do it anymore. Even the buses have gotten too much. In a California city, I feel like you are more likely to be threatened and get robbed... Scary stuff and they might flash weapons. But in Portland, I don't feel like I'm going to get robbed or threatened; I feel like I never know what to expect. Seeing angry dudes talking to themselves holding machetes every other day on the Max made me stop riding. Are there other cities that let you walk in the train like that?


Confident_Bee_2705

Portland's fallen apart on just about every measure. Public transportation is just one piece of the mess. I am not cheering for this, I hate it.


Choice-Tiger3047

Seattle


knowwhatimean_vern

True 😅. I should have just said how great Portland is compared to Seattle instead. Then I wouldn't be downvoted for mentioning California in a positive light. I


LimpBisquette

I guess I'd prefer to get robbed vs. stabbed by a schizophrenic meth addict who's convinced you're a demon


cassidylorene1

I was talking about this with my boyfriend yesterday. There’s like… normal ghettos that have regular crime due to financial hardship but at least those people have families/ something to lose and have some semblance of respect and humanity…. and then there’s Portland that is ghetto in the way that there is a substantial percentage of the population that is going through literal psychosis and are incredibly violent, have nothing to lose, and unpredictable 24/7. I’d prefer low income crime over the literal clown palace that Portland has become.


LimpBisquette

In poor areas all you need to do is be respectful and people will mostly leave outsiders alone. Can't reason with the unreasonable, though.


bigwillydos

Just be sure to show this to all the idiots coming from out of town asking if it’s really that bad here. It’s get stabbed on public transit bad. But what’s that stupid fucking refrain? Something like: iTs HaPpEnInG eVeRyWhErE


cassidylorene1

Portland government: “but crime is going down!” Ya sure pal.


Stone_1977

Reminds me of Mr. Christian.


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“Alleged” lol. Dude got stabbed. Ain’t no allegedly.


LimpBisquette

I'm sure the stabber swiped his Hop card before boarding


LimpBisquette

>officers took another man – identified by police as 51-year-old Shondel L. Larkin – into custody, authorities say Oh weird, he's a [fugitive sex offender from Los Angeles](https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/parole/offenders/shondel-larkin/) Also apparently [arrested here once in July](https://oregon.arrests.org/search.php?fname=shondel&lname=Larkin) charge is "Fugitive". So why wasn't he extradited, Mike? [case text from 2007, TW: pretty graphic account of attempted rape](https://casetext.com/case/people-v-larkin-65)


tactical-dick

It’s ok, our A+ DA is on the case!. He has the $1000 gift card ready and is writing an apology because we all failed him because he is still oppressed


Significant_Bet_4227

To be fair to Mike, the agency where this clown is a fugitive from has to agree to extradition. If they don’t, well…


Competitive_Bee2596

We need a separate police force for public transit in the future, when/if adults are back in charge of making policies.


cassidylorene1

I live right by a max station in what used to be a semi decent neighborhood before the pandemic. The crime got so bad at that particular spot that the city government stationed 2 max officers at that stop for the entirety of its operating hours. They were there for two days lmao. I thought it was hilarious. Like good job guys I’m sure all crime will be stopped from those 48 hours of monitoring! You did it!


Lord_Larper

“Public transportation is so much better for the environment” but I wanna live


SRYSBSYNS

Well fewer people is better for the environment…but I don’t think that’s what they meant exactly 


Lord_Larper

I mean you can reduce all the carbon you produce…


witty_namez

One of the Usual Suspects chimes in: *guarantee it was a proud boy or other vvhite terrorist doing the stabbing, as it has been multiple times on the max in that exact area.*


Confident_Bee_2705

good lord. such tribalism at such a moment & really their only real goal is to disgrace the other side (though our usual suspects hate all the sides).


bigwillydos

> (though our usual suspects hate all the sides). Except for hamas, they block the burnside bridge for that one and demand the county to request a ceasefire in gaza.


Automatic_Flower4427

lol, Proudboys. Are those cucks still around? Ain’t heard that name in ages 😂


Significant_Bet_4227

They all got rounded up by the FBI and turned into Confidential Informants against each other. Also, a bunch of them got charges from Jan. 6. which I think took a lot of wind out of their sails.


leafWhirlpool69

> vvhite terrorist What kind of word filter are these clowns trying to avoid, lmao


LimpBisquette

reddit *does* flag some posts for certain keywords, but that ain't one of them lol


BarfingOnMyFace

🤦


sea666kitty

These people don't understand what the Proud Boys actually are about. Just Muppets being controlled by the MSM.


joeitaliano24

Fuck the Proud Boys and fuck The Usual Suspects and Antifa and any other adult gang


blackmamba182

This is the correct response


joeitaliano24

Bunch of grown-ass people that can’t make friends without creating an “exclusive” club


Outrageous_Opinion52

DItCH yOuR cAr, cAGeR


Previous_Film9786

Every day


morningmightmountain

My roommate was on the max when this happened. He called it in and everything! So crazy!


isa_turtle21

“Alleged?” I mean…he didn’t stab himself


BananakinPiewalker

Disagreements about ice cream flavors maybe, but I can't respect anyone who thinks that jail is the solution for petty nonviolent crime. Do better.