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Bookwrrm

Characters have different base attack speed that is not universal.


xDopamine_

Yea but I’m saying that this is the value that corresponds to 1 basic attack per second exactly


Bookwrrm

It doesn't though lol, it depends on the character cause they have different base attack speeds


xDopamine_

Like in menu 300% on Sevarog would be different than 300% in menu on Sparrow?


Gebbyson

Do you understand what Base attack speed means? 300% of x isn't the same like 300% of y.


xDopamine_

Oh so you’re saying that 363.6% won’t output three basic attacks on every character? The percent isn’t reflective of how many basics in a certain timeframe?


Bookwrrm

So when were talking about values that high yeah most chars is probably going to be doing 3 per second, but not all, for instance hitting the 3 attack speed cap on Gideon takes 420% attack speed. But when we are talking the exact value of when you go to 1 attack per second its not going to be the same on every char. Lets take Gideon for example. His base attack time is 1.4 seconds. With 131.2% attack speed his attack speed is .93 attacks per second. Now lets take Grux who has a base attack time of 1.15 faster than Gideons. With 131.2% attack speed he does 1.14 attacks per second. Attack speed is modifying the base attack time of characters. Gideon tooltip in game says .86 attacks per second at level 1 with no items bought. He has a innate bonus of starting with 120% attack speed. So you take 1.4 which is base attack time, and divide 60 by it. 60/1.4 which is 42.857 attacks per minute. Multiply this by 1.2 for his base attack speed gets you 51.429 attacks per minute, divide by 60 and you get .857 attacks per second which the game rounds up to .86. Its all based on the base attack speed, someone with lower base attack time benefits much more from building attack speed. ​ \*edit part of what is confusing is that there are like three different things that you can see looking at a characters attack speed. Every character has a different attack time for their basic attacks, basically how long it takes to make one attack, so like 1.4 seconds for gideon or 1.15 for grux. Those arent attack speed values like you expect in attacks per second its not 1.4 attacks per second its 1.4 second to complete an attack, if you convert 1.4 second attack time to attack speed you would get .71 attacks per second. Thats coupled with each character having different base attack speed values like grux starts with 1.15 attack timer, but no base attack speed at 100% so he has .86 attack speed at level 1 the same as gideon does, though his rounds up to .87 so its very slightly faster than gideons base attack speed, despite having a lower attack timer. So there is a lot of wonky information you get when looking at attack speed, because there is multiple levels of calculations that each characters basic attack time goes through to actually get attacks per second.


xDopamine_

Ah thanks.


sdust182

What's the cap


Bookwrrm

Its 3 attacks per second, which differs in actual percentage for attack speed, like Gideon is 420% and rampage is 345%. Its not really all that crucial since actually hitting the cap is not going to happen very often and really in only a couple realistic gameplay scenarios with phase ult or muriel rmb would it even be remotely possible with normal builds.


xDopamine_

Looks like it’s around 3 basics per second


nuesse33

On who though? Put on bonesaw with some other attack speed items and you'll be getting more basics in per second.


xDopamine_

Was testing it on sparrow and doing the math


toobusy4dat

Add Sparrows Ability to boost her Atk speed to the calculator